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Archives

Welcome![edit]

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LightRoxas - "It was the sound of books... pages being turned. So, that's just what I was doing, just reading, uh... books. So not a moron."
TALK - "Apparently when you scream at a marshmallow, all you get is a scared marshmallow."
Welcome to the wiki! Here are a few things you should know regarding your recent edits to the Xehanort quotes page:
  • Please make sure to use good grammar and correct capitalization. It is especially important that when putting down quotes, you put them exactly as they are said in the game.
  • Please make sure to use correct formatting - if you need help, just look at the other quotes that are there.
  • Try not to spread one quote across so many edits; use the Show Preview button underneath the edit table if you need to see what your edit will look like. When you spread your edits across so much, it fills up the page history and makes it harder to undo any bad edits.

If you have any questions, just contact me on my talk page!

FileTalk: Continued[edit]

Thought I should finish my thought, but the page was removed just as I was going to publish it. So, I understand, though from where I stand, he has every reason to be mad. Anyways, if you want to help, check the "Welcome" banner on your talk page. It has many wonderful links that can help prevent this kind of thing. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png06:56, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Re:Mediawiki Pages[edit]

I'm not sure what you mean by MediaWiki Pages. Could you please explain? Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png-KeybladeSpyMaster (talk) 18:16, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Well like the cursor on Disney Wiki is Mickey Mouse's glove i was thinking the cursor here should be a keyblade. Byzantinefire (talk) 18:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)


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TheFifteenthMember YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BLOOMIN' HAIR, YOU LAGABOUTIN' SPOUTIN' POUTIN' TROUT!!! TheFifteenthMember 20:34, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to butt in here, but I'd just like to say what I think about this whole Disney Wiki thing. I think that you guys copying nearly all of our articles word for word isn't right. As a Wiki, we've worked to build those articles so it's only natural that we'll feel a bit miffed after seeing our hard work copied somewhere else. Saying that, I know that our entire wiki's content is under GNU Free Documentation License but that shouldn't mean it can just be copied word for word. My problem isn't that Disney Wiki is taking information from our Wiki, it's the fact that you're copying our exact writing, images and style. An alternative is you guys take our articles and edit them to suit your Wiki. So for example, I doubt the Disney Wiki needs to go into too much gameplay details when there is a whole KHWiki for that so most gameplay sections and articles need to be trimmed, cut and condensed. One idea that came up on the IRC is you make a "List of Kingdom Hearts Gameplay" or something similar, if you really want to include some stuff. That way you can still cover some gameplay but it'll only be spread across a single article. I think the KH articles should mainly focus on plot details, maybe development, relations to Disney franchises etc. To put it short, I'm happy as long as the Disney Wiki haven't copied us exactly word for word.
I know but its quite a long shot and i can't really do it by myself and i would prefer it if users from KHWiki would come and help edit it to make it less like the originals. Byzantinefire (talk) 22:09, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Huh? What are the editors on the Disney Wiki doing? I hate to use a hostile tone but seriously, that's not fair. You can't expect us to write an article for this wiki...and then rewrite it for the Disney Wiki. Saying that, if some people do want to help the Disney Wiki, they're welcome to, I'm just speaking for myself here. TheFifteenthMember 23:04, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry i asked. Byzantinefire (talk) 23:39, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
No, you can ask for help. I'm just saying that the Disney Wiki (including OTHER editors, not just you) need to pull their weight too. TheFifteenthMember 23:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Yeah but many of them might be too busy editing Frozen related articles. Byzantinefire (talk) 23:50, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Then the least you can do is license your .gifs, which members of our wiki made, like this and many more (although why a Disney Wiki would need an article on Thunder Surge, I'll never understand). Also, you shouldn't attribute our articles to your wiki (so no having our articles as Featured Articles for your wiki) and it would be nice if the template attributing us was at the top of pages, instead of the bottom where no one can see it. EDIT: This has come to my attention. TheFifteenthMember 17:11, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Talk Template[edit]

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KeybladeSpyMaster - I do it for my family, my home, my friends! I do it for her!
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png Welcome to Spy Force One. - 11:33 PM Mon, December 16, 2013 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png I noticed that you had problems with your talk template. If you want, I can help (I just got a tablet, which has way more typing space than my psp). Just tell me where it is. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


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Byzantinefire - "I am king under the Mountain"
TALK - :) 23:15, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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Re:Disney Wiki[edit]

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KeybladeSpyMaster - There will always be a Door to the light !
TALK - Symbol Character - Mickey.png Helping others always comes before asking others for help! - 05:55 PM Fri, January 31, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png Sure, I'll help with the Disney Wiki. Just tell me what exactly needs to be done, and how you guys want to do it. I would have answered elsewhere, but I can't find your page on the Fanon Wiki Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


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KeybladeSpyMaster - There will always be a Door to the light !
TALK - Symbol Character - Mickey.png Helping others always comes before asking others for help! - 09:50 PM Fri, January 31, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png I know there was a problem back in December that was supposed to be resolved concerning what would stay and what would go. Any chance you could tell me what exactly is being done with the pages(Which are you keeping, which are becoming lists, etc.)? Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


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KeybladeSpyMaster - I do it for my family, my home, my friends! I do it for her!
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png Welcome to Spy Force One. - 12:10 AM Sun, February 2, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png Could you please explain what you mean by "professional reorganizer"? (I can't figure it out based on his edits) Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


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KeybladeSpyMaster - I do it for my family, my home, my friends! I do it for her!
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png Welcome to Spy Force One. - 08:20 PM Sun, February 2, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png I'll try, but you'll have to see here for my stand on this issue. I refuse to help create pages that shouldn't be on that wiki. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


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KeybladeSpyMaster - There will always be a Door to the light !
TALK - Symbol Character - Mickey.png Helping others always comes before asking others for help! - 09:26 PM Sun, February 2, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png Yes, of course, the people pages shouldn't be removed (except maybe the FF and TWEWY pages, because they're not related at all to Disney, except maybe Leon for knowing King Mickey). And the songs, they're published by Disney, so they should stay, too. But Utada Hikaru's page, for example, not so much. We don't even have a page for her here, much less should it be there. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


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KeybladeSpyMaster - There will always be a Door to the light !
TALK - Symbol Character - Mickey.png Helping others always comes before asking others for help! - 10:00 PM Sun, February 2, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png Again, the songs are published by Disney, so they should stay. I was talking about Utada Hikaru's page, the one that talks about her as an artist, not the pages that talk about her songs. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


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KeybladeSpyMaster - Wait, there's more than one Xehanort?
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png I don't understand! Doesn't that make them Oraganization XXVI? - 09:36 PM Tue, February 4, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png I'm not sure. I had suggested on the last discussion that the Disney Wiki should focus on story, and I understood that both TheFifteenthMember and SilverFlight were on board with that. Now I'm confused, and there doesn't appear to be anyone on the KHWiki-noticeboard of the IRC when I asked. I don't know anymore... Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


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Pea14733 Knowing it in your head doesn't mean much if you don't act on it. — 03:46, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
It's because "everyone" is on the KHWiki-social. You should've at least tell us on the social channel...(oh and sorry for the intrusion)
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KeybladeSpyMaster - Oh, sorry, Sora. I thought you and Kairi were going out...
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png Well, this is awkward... - 10:35 PM Tue, February 4, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png Sorry, I didn't know. I don't know too much about the IRC, so I don't know how it's handled or anything about it, really. I'll warn about it on the social IRC next time. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


Thanks![edit]

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KeybladeSpyMaster - I do it for my family, my home, my friends! I do it for her!
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png Welcome to Spy Force One. - 08:42 AM Sun, October 25, 2020 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png You're the first person to use my friend userbox! (Yay!) Thanks! Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png
Your Welcome. Byzantinefire (talk) 22:51, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Re:Keyblade[edit]

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KeybladeSpyMaster - I do it for my family, my home, my friends! I do it for her!
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png Welcome to Spy Force One. - 09:00 PM Sat, April 5, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png Yes, it should. The only problem is that little is known about the Keyblade Armor and Gliders, other than they're linked to the Keyblades and they appear in Birth By Sleep. Even then, there appears to be exceptions (Yen Sid and Mickey have never used either one). That's why, in the Birth by Sleep section. I mentioned that the two concepts were introduced. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


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KeybladeSpyMaster - I do it for my family, my home, my friends! I do it for her!
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png Welcome to Spy Force One. - 04:18 PM Wed, April 9, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png Sorry I haven't responded, school has restarted, and I'm determined not to slip like I did last quarter. Anyways, I was going to use the image from Birth by Sleep that was on the original article on the Disney Wiki, but the image doesn't exist here. I'll use it when I move it, though. I'll gladly help write up the articles that you listed. However, I'm not sure if a Symbols of the Kingdom Hearts series is necessary on the Disney Wiki. The others, I can try and help out with. Did you get the others on Disney Wiki the message about what we decided at the Roundtable? Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


:I agree, the "Symbols of the Kingdom Hearts series" doesn't belong on the DisneyWiki. But I suggest you mention KH on your hidden mickey article. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 22:23, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

This is none of your busyness 15 there are plenty of Disney themed symbols and never tell which belongs on which wiki never say DisneyWiki its Disney Wiki. Byzantinefire (talk) 22:27, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for butting into the conversation. Not sorry for sharing my opinion, which I still stand by. Character and world symbols take up 0.2% of the game. It's only the Mickey head that's significant.
P.S: Inventive sarky-ness with the nowiki tags right there. TheFifteenthMember 22:38, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't need you giving me more stress.Byzantinefire (talk) 22:40, 9 April 2014 (UTC)


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KeybladeSpyMaster - We can't let the χ-board be made! We must stop the Edit War!
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png - Okay, calm down... - 10:21 PM Wed, April 9, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png Ok, here I go.
  • I continue to stand that the Symbols of the Kingdom Hearts series does not belong on the Disney Wiki.
    • The Fleur-de-lis, for example, is not a Disney symbol, it's only used in Disney works and in the Kingdom Hearts series, but is not exclusive or original to either one. If we were to begin to list every time the Fleur-de-lis appeared in a work on the Disney Wiki, we would need a couple hundred pages. It doesn't belong to Disney, therefore, it does not belong on the wiki.
    • The Character symbols definitely don't belong on the Disney Wiki. Let's face it, they don't even belong to the Kingdom Hearts series. They're presented in an Ultimania, a magazine/book (I don't know, what is it exactly?) and that's it. Except for Pete's symbol from the door to Timeless River and Vanitas's symbol, none of those exist in the actual games. I personally don't agree with having them in the article on this wiki at all. Much less do they belong on an article on the Disney Wiki.
    • The Hidden Mickey references should definitely be listed on the Disney Wiki. However, I'm pretty sure an article exists on the Wiki already for that. Might I suggest a more detailed list on that article rather than a gallery? Just a thought.
    • The remaining world symbols, in my opinion, should be listed on their respective world pages on the Disney Wiki. It's the most logical place for these symbols.

Conclusion: The page does not belong on the Disney Wiki. It serves little purpose throughout the series anyways. It's more of an interesting quirk than anything else.

  • This wiki is not the correct/appropriate place to have a dispute/argument regarding the correct spelling/naming of the Disney Wiki. First of all, let's face it: officially, it's titled the "DisneyWiki". I still use the space, because my fast typing makes me put the space there automatically. If you change it back to "Disney Wiki", that's great. If not, that's okay. No one's going to die. The world won't end. And honestly, this isn't the DisneyWiki, this is the Kingdom Hearts Wiki. Wrong place to make the argument in the first place.

I think we, as a community, are willing to help the Disney Wiki. But you have to meet us half-way. Of course, I speak more for myself, but still. I'll gladly help out with the other articles you listed, and I think the plan is to figure out the world format we would like to suggest for the Disney Wiki on Friday. We don't mean to completely stall your own goals, but we have our own lives and goals, so don't expect us to always agree with your plans. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


Your conduct[edit]

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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 18:51, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 
Byz, I don't want to have to start giving you warnings, but this is the only chance I'm giving you. You need to stop being so belligerent when debating content, whether on here or on the Disney wiki. You have a tendency to take every argument as a personal affront, and saying passive aggressive things like "don't give me stress" or "but it matters to me" turns a constructive debate into a non-productive and, frankly, embarrassing debacle. You need to be a lot more professional if you want us to continue taking you seriously. Because I think we've been very patient, both here and at the Disney wiki.

Affiliation[edit]

That's right, you weren't there to discuss the issue. It was concluded at the Roundtable that Erry would discuss with the other staff/admin members about affiliation with the Disney Wiki. I think the purpose/objective was to have an answer by the next Roundtable. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 20:25, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Oh right well i almost forgot about that but it was not mentioned on the previous aftermath Roundtable section so i just wanted to be sure.. Byzantinefire (talk)
Yeah, it wasn't, but it was in the transcripts/log Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 00:06, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Logo Images[edit]

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KeybladeSpyMaster - I do it for my family, my home, my friends! I do it for her!
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png Welcome to Spy Force One. - 10:47 PM Sat, June 7, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png Hey, where did you get the HD logo images? They're pretty cool, and I really like them, but where were they? I've never seen them before. Per chance, do you have them for other images, like world images or such? Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png
I got them from KHInsider. Byzantinefire (talk) 04:48, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
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KeybladeSpyMaster - I do it for my family, my home, my friends! I do it for her!
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png Welcome to Spy Force One. - 11:11 PM Sat, June 7, 2014 MDT
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png Dang it! I specifically want a cleaner version of this image. Oh well, I'll see if I can find it elsewhere. Maybe I can extract it from the KHII iso file I have? Don't know, I'll see. Thanks, anyways! Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


Images[edit]

Hey there. If you really want to help out on the images, we could really use someone to make images transparent. A list of such images can be found over here. The images don't need to be resized-made larger- they need to be transparent. If you can help on that, that would be appreciated. Thanks. Xion4ever 03:41, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Dude, actually check what you're transparenting. Don't just Fuzzy Select + Save. Check the image. UnknownCheisā —— underwater knife fight 04:50, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

I am just checking over what is on the list. Byzantinefire (talk) 04:51, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
He's right, though. Don't just make everything big and transparent. Quality over quantity. As a general rule, I think it should be just in-game elements that should be transparent. But other things, like this, don't need to be. Also, quality trumps size. Three images were reverted yesterday because they were of poorer quality, even if they were bigger. Just be careful. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 05:40, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
But those images were on the list and many of the images i uploaded are higher quality than the original. Byzantinefire (talk) 16:24, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Huh, well, the Smile (Art) image isn't on that list, so I'm not on that. However, UnknownChaser was wrong with the other images he reverted. I don't know, I guess those images should be reverted to your uploads. I'll do that myself. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 18:40, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Well i made a Transparent image of that Smile image but with the Yellow number code and i will be uploading it now. Byzantinefire (talk) 18:47, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Hold off on images for the time being. Once Chaser goes through the transparency list on the renovation forum we'll go from there. So, until then, just hold off so we can get this straight. Thanks again for your help. Xion4ever 18:57, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Your Welcome. Byzantinefire (talk) 18:59, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Three things:

1. I think we all appreciate your effort here but uploading these images from KHInsider without giving a source is just rude. Sign spent countless hours rendering all these images and this could easily strain our relationship with this site.
2. As pointed out above some images are intended with a white background, mostly artworks, sketches and images ripe with effects. Pulling off a transparent alternative takes a whole lot of skill, something that you, I and even Sign are not capable of. This requieres a whole new level of wizardry (just check this out).
3. Bigger is not always better, the quality of an image can greatly improve if it's not compressed until there is no tomorrow. The order is mostly like this this: scans < press materials < website materials/rips. Even if the press materials are always around 3000x3000px or even bigger they are in most cases heavily compressed jpgs, meaning a loss of color fidelity and an somewhat blurred image. So even if it that's big it always looks hideous when displayed at 100%. That's not true for all circumstances though, so it has to be decided from a case to case basis if an image should be replaced or not.
The other problem with the bigger images you uploaded is that most of the pictures here are displayed at 350x850px max., so when you uploaded the new images with the vast white space around them they look actually smaller now than before. ShardofTruth 10:18, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I can't just say where it is from all the time and frankly i don't like being criticized by anyone we all know where the images are from and at least i contribute these images to 3 wiki's at once you only bother to edit one wiki now. Byzantinefire (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Conduct[edit]

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TheFifteenthMember YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BLOOMIN' HAIR, YOU LAGABOUTIN' SPOUTIN' POUTIN' TROUT!!! TheFifteenthMember 16:05, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Look dude, you've been told about this before and you've obviously not learnt from your mistakes. At the moment, your attitude is proving to be unhelpful to say the least. Ending constructive discussions with personal affronts or complaints causes a problem, especially when other users are being polite and patient with you. You still need to learn the lesson that quality trumps quantity and that taking content from other sites without citation is plagiarism. Please consider your behaviour in future discussions.
I'm the one that should be upset here all this talk of quality of quantity i know the difference and you telling me about plagiarism i was replacing these images to make it up to KHWiki and most of you have just been ungrateful i have edited and added image to more wiki's than you in your entire lifetime and you give me is scorn. Byzantinefire (talk) 16:12, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Without turning this into an argument, let me tell you some facts. Everyone has been repeatedly saying "we appreciate your efforts" so I'm not sure why you think we're ungrateful. ShardofTruth was giving you advice on how to make your edits better but you responded negatively, which is the "attitude" I was referring to earlier. TheFifteenthMember 16:25, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Oh well i was confused well i will just everytime i get an image from KHInsider i will say in the upload comment that i got from said site. Byzantinefire (talk) 16:27, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Resizing Images[edit]

Until we get the discussion on the art transparency forum about your image uploads is settled, please hold off on uploading images. If you are indeed doing a poorer quality of image work, be it resizing or transparency, you're just making more work for us over here. So, until Shard or someone else with some higher image knowledge replies, do not upload any more images. This means, no resizing, no transparencies, nothing. Thank you. Xion4ever 19:11, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Rather harsh don't you think. Byzantinefire (talk) 19:20, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

MegaProject: Arise - Home Project[edit]

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KeybladeSpyMaster - I fight for the Users!
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png - Greetings, users. System is up, and ready for user input. - 06:13 PM Mon, June 23, 2014 MDT
CODE 0xKHWV001: SYSTEM START UP

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Re:IRC[edit]

Hey, just got your message. Can you get on right now? Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 03:13, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

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Remember the logo. I finished it. Erry's advice helped a lot.

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What do you think? Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 23:10, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

It looks good but is it the same size as the current one? Byzantinefire (talk) 23:12, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
And it does break a bit from the tradition look maybe wait until the game cover comes out. Byzantinefire (talk) 23:14, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
It is the same size as the current one. And yeah, it breaks tradition, so I'm waiting till the game cover art comes out. It was really an experiment to remove the text from the front of the HD 2.5 ReMIX logo to leave the "Kingdom Hearts" part. The images of Sora, Donald, and Goofy will be replaced with the cover art images when we get it. In the mean time, I'll just use this in my personal CSS. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 23:17, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Magazine: Mark of Mastery Exam[edit]

Hey. The staff and I found the need to clarify the Mark of Mastery Exam requirements in the Journalist Spot. Please feel free to review them. Thanks! Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 05:06, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

In addition, the Journalist Spot is being hosted at the Keyhole this issue. Please sign-up for assignments for the magazine there. Thanks! Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 16:41, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Re:Interview[edit]

I will be free for an interview to be conducted this coming Saturday. - Challenge Sigil KHD.pngEternal Nothingness XIIIChallenge Sigil KHD.png 02:02, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

At what time on Saturday?Byzantinefire (talk) 03:13, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
I'll pretty much be free all day. - Challenge Sigil KHD.pngEternal Nothingness XIIIChallenge Sigil KHD.png 03:25, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah good. Byzantinefire (talk) 03:29, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm free right now if you wish to conduct the interview. - Challenge Sigil KHD.pngEternal Nothingness XIIIChallenge Sigil KHD.png 16:09, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

I am i'm on the social IRC right now? Byzantinefire (talk) 17:17, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Alright, I'll be right there. - Challenge Sigil KHD.pngEternal Nothingness XIIIChallenge Sigil KHD.png 17:18, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

RE:Terminology[edit]

Hey, whenever you can, can you tell me what you were trying to tell me about this? Thanks! Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 00:02, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I was saying that Disney wiki should have the full terminology to the Kingdom Hearts series. Byzantinefire (talk) 04:54, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Hey, sorry I didn't get back sooner, I was out the last two days. Um, yeah, it should probably get more terminology, but I'm not sure if the entire text of the Reports, for example, helps in that quest. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 04:42, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
I prefer a collection to be complete and not stunted.Byzantinefire (talk) 04:45, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Notice[edit]

Just in-case you didn't notice, it's against wiki policy to remove content from discussion pages the way you did. I realize the events/occurrences that led you to do this, but it's still against the rules, and as Xion said, it could/will cost you a warning next time. Again, as always, this is just a wiki run by regular people. You need to keep your emotions in check when editing, because not everyone will agree with you. It comes with the turf. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 06:17, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


"Its not that crowded it looks fine and at least i'm not editing as an auto confirmed user"[edit]

If you want to be taken seriously, please refrain from using unnecessary insults. - Joseph Thorn Dalton XCVSymbol Character - Vanitas.png 18:08, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to be insulting. Byzantinefire (talk) 19:40, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Magazine[edit]

Hey, thanks for your contribution to the magazine and podcast, I'm hoping to have the podcast episode up soon, and I got your interview for the next issue. Thanks! Eternal Flames KHD.pngChainoffirePizza Cut KHD.png 07:11, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Your welcome. Byzantinefire (talk) 16:58, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

EDIT: I gave Chaser all my things, so you'd have to ask him. But I wouldn't ask him because he hates that question. Eternal Flames KHD.pngChainoffirePizza Cut KHD.png 03:00, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Sigh. Byzantinefire (talk) 03:02, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Signature[edit]

Hey, this is just to notify you that your signature violates the wiki's Signature Policy, as it lacks your username. Please be sure to fix it, or it may be removed. Thanks! Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 21:02, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Oh this is embarrassing. Byzantinefire (talk) 21:21, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

I can help[edit]

If you like, I can help you with the Disney wiki Riku page, but the Disney wiki freezes my computer, so you will have to insert it. In return, can you explain to me why you steal other people's content? RikutheBloody 12:27, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Because barely anyone on KHWiki gives Disney Wiki enough assistance with Kingdom Hearts related articles I am not that good with writing myself Disney owns a great deal of Kingdom Hearts just about the same as Square Enix does and my view of Disney is virtually infinite and i want that infinite dream to be fulfilled. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 16:35, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Then I'll try to help, and then you can also get your position back. Let's discuss more on the IRC, and then maybe you can get more help from just me. RikutheBloody 16:49, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 16:52, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

EOYE 2014 Plaque[edit]

Stitch's Wayfinder (Art).png Fren-ship...Cir...cle?
This Wayfinder has been awarded to Byzantinefire
for being part of Team χ, who were participants of
the user trivia contest of the 2014 End of Year Event.
Congratulations!

^_^ TheFifteenthMember 18:09, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

The Disney Wiki[edit]

About your invitations to edit on the Disney Wiki, I have received them. Unfortunately, I just do not have the time to edit on multiple Wikis at once, given my school schedule, personal life, et cetera. Please understand. - Challenge Sigil KHD.pngEternal Nothingness XIIIChallenge Sigil KHD.png 19:32, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

So you did get it well i thought that disney wiki could ease the tension and be a good chance at community service. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 19:35, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Avengers: Age of Ultron Parody[edit]

Since you like Marvel so much, I thought you'd get a kick out of this:

Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 16:50, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Magazine[edit]

Heyo Byz! I'm going around and checking on people's progress for the magazine contributions. You signed up for a puzzle for the grid and an interview. You sent me an interview between you and Troisnyxetienne, but I need you to convert it into the proper magazine coding format before I can accept it. As for the puzzle, 15M has already sent one in, but you can still feel free to send something in if you want, because we can use it for a future issue, or a backup couldn't hurt if something suddenly unexpected happens with his puzzle. If you'd like to do more than what you've signed up for, feel free to sign up for more on the Journalist Spot, just don't put too much pressure on yourself :) Keep in mind that the deadline is June 23rd, which is less than a month away. Thanks for your contributions and have a good day! Eternal Flames KHD.pngChainoffirePizza Cut KHD.png 05:54, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Coding format? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 16:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

To the magazine scene![edit]

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TheFifteenthMember ...dango daikazoku~ TheFifteenthMember 20:35, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Hey Byz! Quick reminder that for the Twilight Times you've signed up for the Ansem Reports so be sure to send that in at least before the 23rd (earlier if possible). Thanks!
23rd of September? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 20:52, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Yup and I'd love to see what you got so far! TheFifteenthMember 22:09, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

http://byzantinefire-sandbox.wikia.com/wiki/Ansem_Report I also just purchased the 3.0 edition now. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 22:51, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

It looks good so far. When was it said that Dark Baymax came from Baymax's old body? If it wasn't confirmed, I wouldn't add it in. Also, would we be able to get some Kingdom Hearts Unchained X news in there? TheFifteenthMember 23:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

I suppose. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 00:13, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
I think it was said during the presentation. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 00:13, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Artwork[edit]

Hey, where is the original source of this image? yAgIogp.pngANX219 19:53, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Ansem Report[edit]

It looks good, thanks! TheFifteenthMember 19:55, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Insult[edit]

Please quote me where I insulted or attacked you. --Webber22 (talk) 22:07, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Okay, now I want you locate and extract the bits of that sentence that insinuate an insult and an attack. --Webber22 (talk) 01:48, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Neither of you are supposed to be edit warring over who gets to be the author of the image. New images should not be uploaded unless you can justify why the new image is better than the previous.
Furthermore, if you're having a fight against another editor, especially related to personal attacks, you're supposed to go to Forum:Heartless Manufactory so that it can be channeled into something more productive."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:36, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Very well. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 14:59, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Invitation[edit]

Hey there, Byz, this is an invitation for you to take part in our end of year event! You can sign up as either a participant or a judge and we'd love it if you could come aboard. Thanks! TheFifteenthMember 22:15, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts III[edit]

Please remember that Kingdom Hearts III material is not to be placed on articles in the mainspace, aside from the Kingdom Hearts III article itself, unless it has been explicitly confirmed through a press release, in words, that the topic will be covered in KH3. Even then, the material needs to be marked with Template:Unreleased. When adding the game icon to an article, you need to provide a link to said press release in your edit summary, or in invisible comments in the article itself. Also, any information placed within an in-universe article also needs to be in-universe."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 16:44, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Magazine CRUNCH[edit]

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TheFifteenthMember Yes. You're creepy. I can't say we'll miss you while you're gone, so it'd be best if you did go. We all win that way. TheFifteenthMember 18:57, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
PSA: Byzantinefire has signed up to: cover, Ansem Report, Keyblade Master, Intro To, review, interview. He has a week to send them in!
Are you in the irc? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 19:55, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't online. Can I get a progress check? TheFifteenthMember 23:42, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't have the time to write up content with you. Please send me finished drafts of all your pieces ASAP and then I'll see what I can do to improve them from there. TheFifteenthMember 01:29, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Then, you'll have to make a start prompto. By you signing up to a section, it's your responsibility to finish it and send it in by the 23rd. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to write all your sections for you so you're going to have to do some work. If you're worried about quality, I can review the completed sections afterwards. I can understand if you can't get them all in by the 23rd by this point but please, by the 28th at least. TheFifteenthMember 10:13, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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TheFifteenthMember Myes, but THEY didn't know that! We have to consider THEM! And yet we must also be mysterious, myes, myes...
Status check? I got the cover and I don't expect the Intro To since Chain's already doing it. I'm still waiting on a redrafted Ansem Report, redrafted interview, your Xemnas part of the review, and the Keyblade Master.

Re: Logos to Cover[edit]

I found the files of the logos! To avoid having to look for them again in the future, I decided to upload them to the wiki. You can find them here, here, and here. TheSilentHero 18:05, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

/KHWV/ sings[edit]

This is a friendly reminder that you agreed to record your voice for the /KHWV/ sings for the 10th anniversary. Please get your audio to me by the 27th at the latest so that I'll have time to put it together! Thanks! Eternal Flames KHD.pngChainoffirePizza Cut KHD.png 19:03, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Another thing to do is the "Meet the Panellists" section as part of the KHWV sings that we did. For this, simply write a 50-100 word blurb about yourself and/or why you joined the Round Room project (see examples in Issue 7). Send this in ASAP. Thank you! TheFifteenthMember 19:07, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Well speak to me on the disney wiki char or the khwiki irc. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 22:49, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
For what reason? I don't really have the time at the moment and the instructions for the Meet the Panellists are pretty straightforward If there's something that you need help with, email the wiki address and I'll get back to you. TheFifteenthMember 19:53, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Comment on ShardofTruth's TP[edit]

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NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you...
TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart...
No kidding, huh? What a headache, and during my final exams, too. Talk about "making a mountain out of an ant-hill". I had hoped to settle the matter quietly, and now the whole community is involved. I guess it can't be helped. :(
Well i think the term is Mountain out of a Molehill. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 04:19, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Lol! I know what the actual saying is, but I thought since you said you watched AA during our talk in Chat, you'd get the reference. It's one of Ant-Man's lines from an episode in the second season of the show.--NinjaSheik 20:04, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Ah of course. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 22:18, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Trailer[edit]

Looks good."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 00:44, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Links?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:44, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Birthday[edit]

Heyo, I saw that I missed your birthday. I hope you had a good one! Eternal Flames KHD.pngChainoffirePizza Cut KHD.png 05:04, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Also happy birthday."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:49, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
4 days late but i thank you for remembering. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 17:15, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

WSJ wiki[edit]

What is it that you need? I don't know anything about WSJ, so I'd only be help with backend stuff at best."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:29, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

(I'm sorry if I invaded this section but it's about the same topic.) I unfortunately can't help, seeing I don't know anything about it and I barely have time to balance Keyhole and my own life. Adding this wiki would just make things go overboard on my side, sorry. Unversedlogo.pngDraaek the Blazing Dragon of LightUnversedlogo.png 22:50, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

The Marvel Database has a distinct advantage however: It's a shared universe. All of those characters show up in countless other serials. Steve Rogers isn't only in Captain America, but you'll find him in quite a few Avengers (duh) and Wolverine stories. Weekly Jump is a magazine that simply publishes all those manga. It's disjointed and without rhythm. You'll be juggling two dozen serials with absolutely no rhyme or reason between them, and before long you'll find yourself bored and disinterested. --Ignis (talk) 23:41, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Don't care. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 23:52, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
You go around pestering virtually everyone about this, then act like an outright dick to them. So with that, think I might be reporting this to an admin. --Ignis (talk) 00:57, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
In regards to asking Kunoichi101 to help with your WSJ Wiki, personally, I don't find the problem with it. Objectively, however, is another issue. I know you're doing not any harm by wanting to asking users for help and I understand that, but there is a good reason why many wikias, if not all, across the Internet forbid the use of advertising. The purpose of a wikia is to edit, improve, and gather information on a series into a concise, objective database for all fans to enjoy. It is not to be used to promote advertising for another wikia. While Ignis may have overacted just because you asked Kunoichi101 for help, he does make a valid point of about how advertisement shouldn't be allowed on the wiki. Moreover, the KHWiki isn't even affiliated with your WSJ wikia at all, which kind makes what you're doing seem disrespectful to the goal of a wikia is supposed to be. If you were going to ask Kunoichi101 to help with your WSJ wikia, you could've just asked her via the Narutopedia, as she edits there, too. Moreover, you do not actively contribute to the mainspace wiki at all. Therefore, it really does seem you're just using the KHWiki to benefit your WSJ Wiki, which isn't okay. Again, personally, I don't see the harm of you just asking, but objectively, I can't agree with it. So, I am asking you to please refrain advertising on anymore on the KHWiki. If anything, you should be asking around the wikias concentrating with the WSJ's series instead of on a wiki that absolutely nothing do with WSJ. I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound harsh, but please don't use the KHWiki for advertisement anymore.--NinjaSheik 20:11, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, but...[edit]

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NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you...
TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart...
Hello, Byzantinefire. I meant to reply to this earlier, but thank you. Your apology is appreciated. I do want you to know that when you started the topic with me, I know you didn't mean to have be blown out the way it did. It was truly meant to be an innocent discussion between you and me about a series. I want to make something clear here: I don't hate you or anything, but as an admin, I can't say your response to Ignis and Ultima Spark is acceptable. By saying those things in response to them, you gotten yourself entangled in this mess, too. I know that their words hurt you, especially Ignis's, but in their own way, that they were looking out for me, by saying those things in the beginning. But your feelings were hurt by it, and believe me, I took that in consideration. The situation has escalated since then, and I know that Ignis's words later on about having VN hurt you, too.

But objectively, I can't let go what you said to Ultima Spark, either. You attacked Ultima Spark by calling her "harsh and rude" and stating that she has no right to an opinion because she is not as active as most users. Really, that isn't true. Ultima Spark is decently active, and to be considered inactive is to be gone from the wiki and/or not make any mainspace edits for least two or three months. I do agree that she should have choose her words better, but again, you did attack a user. As an admin, I need to issue a warning for that. :( I am sorry about this.

I'm not laughing!
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This is a warning for personally attacking a user.

Your edits have been reverted; please do not attempt to repeat them.
If you wish to do test edits, you are welcome to do so here.

— --NinjaSheik 04:31, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough at least your more reasonable then other admins from various wiki's. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 04:35, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for understanding. No one likes issuing warning templates to users, you know, but this is necessary to help keep the peace. That's why we have the Heartless Manufactory as an alternative way to help resolve issues with users. And thanks for apologizing to Ultima Spark.--NinjaSheik 19:21, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Warning 2[edit]

I said, hands off!
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This is a warning for personally attacking another user.


Please stop breaking the rules on the Kingdom Hearts Wiki. Further violations will result in additional warnings or blocks. If you wish to do test edits, you are welcome to do so here.

— --NinjaSheik 20:38, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

I had enough of this ridiculous hostility between you and Ignis on the KHWiki. For a while now, the of you have at each other's throats. Byzantinefire, I do understand that when you approach users, you do not mean any sort of malicious intent, but when other users disagree with you or say something you don't like, you become hostile. I'm not excusing Ignis's behavior, but you have not shown exemplary behavior, either. After numerous warnings and confrontations, Byzantinefire, you and Ignis continue to violate community standards by personally attacking the other. You have been warned about your behavior in the past and taking everything as a personal affront to your character. While I understand your circumstances, you have insulted other users for simply stating their opinions that contrast your own, and continually engage with fights with Ignis. If you and Ignis continue to provoke each other to start fights, both of you will receive blocks for misconduct.--NinjaSheik 20:38, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Advice[edit]

Ignis has been blocked for personally attacking you. I really wished the two of you would have worked out your disagreements, though. I advise you to not reply to any of his comments and stay away from his talk page if you don't want to escalate the situation further. Regarding your first message to me, though, let me clarify something: Ignis telling you to shut up is a personal attack. He had no right to tell you that, dismissing you when you voiced that Ignis shouldn't be cursing during a page discussion. That's all I have to say in the matter.--NinjaSheik 23:11, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

He might be right and i'm aware of his block i was reading what has been going on. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 23:13, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
If you've been following what's going on, then you know that Ignis is now banned from the KHWiki permanently. He made things worst from himself by deleting content from the project page and violating the KHWiki's rules about removing content his talk page, as well continuing his hostile and malicious behavior.
I will NEVER understand why he acted towards you the way he did. Never. Aside from the times you were offended when users disagree with you and responded with hostility, you never sought out users with the intention of being rude or malicious. I don't understand why he was so adamant about getting you blocked for even the tiniest things. Anyway, you didn't do anything bad this time around, Byzantinefire, but I'd like to remind you that you have also received warnings in the past. Again, I don't understand why Ignis and you acted to hostile to each other, but I really hope something like this doesn't happen again. --NinjaSheik 17:39, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
I'm confused at the last part. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 17:49, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
I'm just saying to be careful not to get into any more squabbles. Ignis had it out for you, you know? Being hypocritical, Ignis went to report to me whenever you did something, like when you asked Kunoichi101 about your Jump database wikia, for example. Because of his tendency to overact, every time something happened between the two of you, it gets blown out of proportion. So, just be more mindful, because I don't want something like this happening again with another user.--NinjaSheik 18:08, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Actually i was confused about the typo. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
A typo? Ah, I think I know what you're talking about. I fixed it. Still, be more specify about what you're confused about next time; otherwise, how am supposed to understand what you're referring to? Well, see you around.--NinjaSheik 18:12, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Alright. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 18:13, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

At personal risk, I'm going to give my opinion on the matter here (which I've witnessed over several months). While Ignis's attitude was way over the line, he nonetheless did have a point in that a substantial amount (as opposed to a very small minority) of Byzantine's edits are basically irrelevant to the greater goal of the wiki as a whole (ie. be a repository on KH series information). Look, Byzantine, I understand you want to discuss stuff you're passionate about with people, but that kind of thing is really better suited to a casual IRC channel or some sort of forum (or even e-mail, if the user allows it). Ultima Spark (talk) Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png 04:41, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

You know there is also a discord channel right? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 14:46, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
I put my message here because more people are likely to see it, and to serve as a permanent record unless an admin specifically strikes it off. It would inevitably vanish from a chatroom (which is by nature transitory). Ultima Spark (talk) Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png 16:12, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Discord is different the messages stays on unless it gets deleted by the user who wrote it or an admin. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 16:18, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Regardless of what Ignis said (which was way, way over the line), Ninja herself warned Byzantine to just avoid Ignis and stop provoking him. Specifically, we have never had a no profanity rule. Coming into a discussion on wiki content just to basically call out Ignis on a rule we don't even have was a clear provocation, especially when two admins were already in the discussion with Ignis and didn't have a problem with his behavior.
Byzantine's contribution metrics are not an issue. Byzantine does a lot of the welcoming new editors, and on a fundamental level, we don't have a quota for editors to adhere to. He has been asked to refrain from off-topic posting, which as far as I can see (barring this incident) he has avoided since then.
Per Ninja's own warning, Byzantine should receive a misconduct block. If Ignis comes back, Byzantine, for the love of all that is holy, do not go around trying to be an admin where he's involved. If you have a problem with his behavior, contact an admin privately -- preferably on IRC or something so it doesn't become a "public call out"."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:04, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
For the record that wasn't provocation it was a mere suggestion for basic language standards. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 16:48, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
It was an inappropriate place to bring up such a suggestion, and Ninja had already warned you about it."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 16:57, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Then where should it have been put? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me 20px-AOU_Audi_Promo_07.png (talk) 16:59, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Following the "assuming good faith" policy, I figured that might be the case when you posted that on the discussion page, though I do admit that I was debating on whether to give you a warning. If Ignis didn't post that tirade on my talk page, the worst that either of you two could have gotten was a scolding instead of a block, simply because of how light the offense was originally. However, Ignis escalated the situation further by personally attacking you on my talk page before I even had a chance to mediate the situation and then start abusing multiple IP addresses simply to curse the two of us out. Personally, I agree that profanity shouldn't be used on page discussions, as it pretty much violates the common policy that all discussions on wikias must be kept civilized and using profanity opens the window for hostility to spring up later down the road. I've experienced and seen the same issue across many wikias. In any case, I've warned Byzantinefire already to be more mindful of his behavior. Unlike Ignis, Byzantinefire makes a conscious attempt to watch his behavior after receiving warnings for previous misconducts. If he does act out in the future, he will receive another warning.--NinjaSheik 17:51, 9 May 2017 (UTC)