- We need someone to go through and make sure every enemy article has a design section, which should cover the appearance of the enemy, and the etymology of its name.
For any of you who decide to help - thank you in advance.
- DESIGN
- The Inexistent 23:26, May 16, 2010 (UTC)The_Inexistent
- LapisLazuliScarab20:52, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- BebopKate 03:20, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- DTN
03:50, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- [Ѧüя◎ґ] I hope I have enough edits to partake.
Dan - CREU GWIR FEL GWYDR O FFWRNAIS AWEN.
09:29, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- maggosh 04:43, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
- LonelyAria 02:15, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
What LS did at Shadow looks perfect to me. Does anyone else have any comments or critiques?Glorious CHAOS! 03:42, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- It works for me; short and simple but detailed. Just bear in mind some etymologies
may will get much more complicated. And I assume if the Japanese version of the name is different, it would be appropriate to comment on that name as well? BebopKate 03:47, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Certainly.Glorious CHAOS! 04:29, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and split this one off into it's own forum thread so we don't clog this one with organizational bits and pieces. BebopKate 02:50, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...02:49, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Alright, guys. Since we have quite a few volunteers for this project, I thought I'd just go ahead and pull it out of here and make a new topic for it. As a reminder of what we're doing ...
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We need someone to go through and make sure every enemy article has a design section, which should cover the appearance of the enemy, and the etymology of its name. (DESIGN)
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...02:49, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
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I'm thinking, similar to other similar projects, we need to make a list of who's doing what. I have a couple of ideas of how we can divide this up to make it easier for everyone:
1. Enemies by World - There's going to be a bit of overlap here, since some critters appear in more than one area, but there are also quite a few unique to their areas, enough that dividing it this way is not going to confuse everyone greatly.
2. Enemies by Game - So far, that would be Kingdom Hearts, Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories, et. al. My only concern is some people might feel a bit overwhelmed, unless a couple of us tackled each game at a time.
3. Enemies by Type - We have a few established Heartless-types, the black mage-esque ones being perhaps the most prominent. If someone wanted to snag all the Shadow-types, Soldier-types, etc, that could work.
4. A couple work on etymology, the others work on description - Just another idea to split the load.
So, my designing women friends, any input?
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I tend to be kind of haphazard in selecting the sections, and I already finished several that I haven't put up here yet. The ones I've finished so far are the Darkball, Gigas Shadow, Mega-Shadow, White Mushroom, Black Fungus, Rare Truffle, Pink Agaricus, Black Ballade, and Blue Rhapsody. Other than those, which I'll get up either today or tomorrow, I can take the Kingdom Hearts II Heartless if we orgnanize it by game. Though any way we organize it is fine with me. EDIT:'Kay, got those guys up.
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LapisScarab Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat. — 02:57, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Hey- I'll volunteer for enemies by type and etemology. The Inexistent 20:48, May 18, 2010 (UTC)The Inexistent
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...23:07, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Sounds like a good start. Lapis, if you'll take the KH2 Heartless, I'll snag the ones from the original game. That leaves CoM & Re:CoM (the few that exist), 358/2 Days, and the Final Mix+ from the appropriate games.
Inexistent, do you want to tackle any specific types to start with? Just realize there's probably going to be some overlap here and there. And also, if anyone is unsure of a etymology or having issues with a description, feel free to tag another project member, of course!
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KrytenKoro - Ṱ͐͒H̫̾̃E͈͔͍͔̾̋ͦ̕ ͇̜͖͉̘̬͙̃̇̊͜N͙͉̑̓̌ͤĬ̸͇̖͈͒̃G̮̠̟͖̝̩ͧ͊̈́H̽͌̀T͚̹̝̐ͬ̂̔̄ ̿̈́̊̃ͦ͆͑A̘̝̖ͪͯ́̀ͣ̿̃͝I̟͑ͬR̡͎̩̚ ̠̪̈́̑̏̏̋C̯̲ͩ́͐͒͂ͪ͜Ä͍̜̣̼̹́͌̋̀͒͂ͅN̅͐̆ͪ̓̋ͩ ̣ͮͧͧ͌Ả̼̤̜̫̩̜̾̕L͓͓̺̤̘̠̀W̷̭̯̼͗͂ͦ̾͒A̘͓̰̠͉͇̬Y̵̒ͧͩ̇ͅS ̦̻̯̟̮̭̟̓̒͑͋C̮̱͔͔̖̯ͦͧͨ͋̑A̤ͩ̉̅ͪR̞͉̣̦̪̜̮͛̉̎̀ͩ̍̇R̢̥̳̝̟̺̣̈Y͗͋̅͏͇̳̪͎̺ ̭͈͍̝̣͍̒̎̑͘O̖̗͇̲̲̖͊̈́̿ͨ͑ͅN̩̰͉͍͍͖͙E̩̹̣̰̣͓̖̽̊͡ ̲̮͔̯̦̋̿ͧͫ̓ͅM͇̌͌̔́O̱̫̯̬̤̗̲͛R̙̽Ȅ̥̦̫̺͙̩̒ͯͭ́ ̖̫̯͉̱ͣͯͩ͊͐͆ͫS̰̿̊̑̋ͩ̇ͅC̘̣̜͍̆̆ͧ͜R̞̾͐̋̆̚Ë̡͇̓A̙͈M̡̤̙̈ TALK -
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For etymologies to wikipedia or final fantasy, please remember to use the interwiki linking code (Ex. [[finalfantasy:article|article]]).
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Just a quick suggestion about our progress section. I think it would be easier to organize it by the game the enemy was introduced in. That way, we won't be repeating a lot of the Heartless' names, and we can checkthem easily by looking at the Heartless navigation box.LapisLazuliScarab03:50, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
You make a valid point. Sounds like a plan then. ^_^ BebopKate 04:18, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I'd like to volunteer for filling in the etymology sections. Is what I did at Aquatank okay?
Dan - CREU GWIR FEL GWYDR O FFWRNAIS AWEN.
09:27, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
Looks good to me LapisLazuliScarab20:40, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
Count me in! User:No.1xemnas/sig5:54, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
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LapisScarab Embrace... nothing! — 04:16, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
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Be sure to put your signature on the sign-up above, No.1xemnas, and let us know what you want to help with! By the way, The Graveyard and Toy Soldier are giving me a little trouble. I can't tell where the Heartless emblem is on the Graveyard, and I don't remember in detail what the two of them looked in their alternate forms. If anyone could get images of the alternate forms and put them in the gallery, that would be great. I'll save them for last, and if we don't get images, I'll just check KHII.
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Dan - My friends are my power! — 11:23, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
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I have some images that should clear the confusion (sorry for the horrible quality):
- Graveyard front view: [1] (That's a raven on the top, it got cut out, sorry ^_^)
- Graveyard back view: [2] (There's the emblem)
- The Toy Soldier has the same Jack-o-lantern as the Graveyard: [3]
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LapisScarab - Very good. You don't miss a thing. I cannot feel sorrow... No matter what misery befalls the worlds. No matter what you think, what you feel, or how you exist.  TALK - Come closer...
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Thanks, and the quality is fine!
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice?  TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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I'm noticing that Heartless have a lot of common traits, despite how different they seem to look. Spherical heads that are usually dark-colored, yellow, circular eyes, jagged mouths, and some kind of curled antenna or horn. Just something I noticed. And on more constructive terms, does the Bolt Tower have a different Final Mix coloration?
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...05:50, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
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Indeed, I've noticed that as well as I've been writing descriptions; in spite of the fact they can look so dissimilar at first glance, they still have a unified appearance because of those little traits. Even ones without these immediately apparent will have them hidden somewhere; I'm particularly fond of the zig-zag filament in the Angel Star, for example, since it mirrors the standard Heartless jaw.
Come to think of it, the only ones with out the pointy jaws are the Mushrooms. I'm sure that's not by accident.
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Okay, finished the KHII enemies. I think I'll finish up the magic uing Heartless (Red Nocturne, etc.), and then I guess I'll move on to Days Heartless.
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LapisScarab Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat. — 03:29, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
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LapisScarab Embrace... nothing! — 02:05, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
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Something's just occurred to me. Should we make a design section for the Gummi ship enemies as well? We have pictures for most, if not all, of the KHII ones (albeit not all of them are great). Though we don't even have articles for the KHI enemies...
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:03, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
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Ooo, good thought, Lapis. I'll give them their own sections...
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice?  TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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Looking closer, I seem to have been grossly mistaken with the images. The U.F.O., Reaper's Wheel, Ring Tank, Hunter, Driller, Crawler, Cannon Ball, and Black Ghost all have decent images. The Core, Dragonfly, Grappler, Hunter X, Knight Head, and Mad Rider all need better ones. All others simply don't have images. Not to mention the fact that the KHI Gummi Enemies don't even have articles. I still think they should have design sections but it's looking like this is a project in its own right.
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FinalMix+ - "The X-Blade is created from our hearts!"
"If you destroy it, you'll be destroying your own heart!"
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To whom it may concern, I accidentally put my name under the design section when I wanted to sign up for the strategy part. I have already removed my name from this section. If anyone expected me to work on design, I sincerely apologise.
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'Tis fine, FinalMix+. We have a good group together as it is.LapisLazuliScarab06:14, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
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GrandUnversed - *wiggling noises* TALK - 00:19, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
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Wait, are Unversed out of the picture until the official English release? I already did the Appearance of the Cursed Carriage. I don't mean to sound like a noob or anything.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:27, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
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Yeah, we really should wait on the Unversed until September; there will be name changes, and might be slight appearance changes between versions, like what happened with the Undead Pirates.
However, I'm not going to criticize work already done. ^_^
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GrandUnversed - *wiggling noises* TALK - 00:19, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
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Ah, I see. Well how's about this; I work on whichever ones I can for now, and go back and edit them come September. Unless, that is a problem of course. I have no problem backing off if it causes trouble for the site or staff.
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Dan - Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase! ♫ — 20:29, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
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