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Please stop doing that. I said ''discussion'', not poll. A poll should be used if everything is in a deadlock and the discussion has come to an end. The discussion got side-tracked before, and now's the time to argue your point civilly. Wait on the poll for a bit.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}03:06, August 26, 2010 (UTC) | |||
OK. should i erase the poll? | |||
For now. If we can't reach a decision in, let's say 1 week, we'll put the poll up again, wait for another week, and go by that. And ''sign you comments''.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}03:11, August 26, 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Thats an erase.Right? | |||
:Oh, you're bringing up Keyblade Glider: We absolutely should change it back. The original name was based on the official materials in the Ultimania, while the "new name" is based on a screenshot from the Command Board minigame. That is exactly the kind of reasoning that gets used if we jump on trailers like a lonely man at a cheerleading convention. It may very well be correct, but the point remains, it is not reliable - and when we have TWO FRICKING WEEKS to wait, there is absolutely no justification for jumping the gun. We are not a news site, we never will be. We are an ENYCLOPEDIA, devoted to providing IN DEPTH, VERIFIED info, and using trailers in this manner goes against that in every way. | |||
:Honestly, I would hesitate to use trailers for story info, either. Tons of story info was changed before BBS was released in Japan, and Nomura explicitly said that he would be changing it again for its North American release. Every time we have tried to post straight-up story claims before the game was released, we ended up with several errors. At best, AT BEST, we should be able to present info that has appeared in the promotional articles and released interviews, because the producers are standing behind that info as finalized. | |||
:However, for the English trailers, story info should be okay, assuming that the quotes won't change further. We've already gotten the Japanese game, and any quotes are basically translations, rather than truly new info.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 04:11, August 26, 2010 (UTC) | |||
{{ZexionFan321|time=04:05, August 26, 2010 (UTC)|text=We should use trailers for storyline points and if the trailer is close enough then we use it for mechanics.}} | |||
{{LapisScarab|time=04:09, August 26, 2010 (UTC)|text=Close enough to what?}} | |||
Release date I assume. At this point nothing is likely to change between this final trailer and the game. Also that argument was not meant to be in favor of reverting the Glider change. It was meant to add weight to the support to adding Pete. IT was sarcasm. [[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] 04:15, August 26, 2010 (UTC) | |||
{{LapisScarab|time=04:22, August 26, 2010 (UTC)|text=I caught that it was sarcasm, but I didn't really care. We should try and go by the policy first. If you find that something isn't following the policy, instead of insisting that everything else change, just fix the error. Saying "You changed one thing based on the trailer, therefore you must change everything based on the trailer" is just foolish logic. It was just a slip up, albeit one I appreciate you pointed out.}} | |||
{{KrytenKoro|Yeah. You picked a REALLY bad example for an argument from absurdity. | |||
Also, has ANYONE here done anything to explain or give an example for why there's no likelihood of changes? I mean, people HAVE heard of DLC, right? Most games don't even stop changing AFTER they were released.}} | |||
Are you done arguing yet??[[User:Edgeshadow|Edgeshadow]] | |||
{{TNE|time=15:03, September 1, 2010 (UTC)|sadtext=Thank you, Edgeshadow. This is one of the reasons why I hesitated to comment on this post in the first place.}} | |||
{{KrytenKoro|We don't use polls to decide whether sources are reliable.}} | |||
{{TNE|time=00:03, September 4, 2010 (UTC)|text=That being the case, then every single person should state his two cents in his talk bubble. | |||
As for Pete being a D-Link, much of the info has been leaked out already, and I'm actually positive about it. Also, justin.tv is going to feature the live playthrough before the game is even released, and I'm going to be considerably spoilt by *coughcoughUnbirthcough*.}} | |||
This is why we don't accept info from trailers, and why you guys should never have even suggested we do: | |||
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[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:15, September 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||
{{Maggosh|YMX=Like I said above; "those were in trailers released a year or more before the actual game, while it was still in development."}} | |||
{{KrytenKoro|That's true, but then BBSNA brought back some of the deleted scenes (like Terra against the Magic Mirror). The problem is, how are we to clearly know where the cutoff is?}} | |||
{{TNE|time=06:16, September 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=The closer it is to the release date, the more reliable it is. Take the betas for KH1 and KH2 for instance. They ultimately couldn't be relied on ; only the later trailers could.}} | |||