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{{LA|Vtext=I propose we change the name of [[Unnamed Heartless|this page]] to '''Hunter of the Dark'''. "Hunter of the Dark" comes from the name of the music played while you fight this Heartless. I know, it's just the music, and nothing ''technically'' says that this is its given name, but it's better than what we have. ''Anything'' is better than "unnamed Heartless". It's time to give this bro a name, IMO. | {{LA|Vtext=I propose we change the name of [[Unnamed Heartless|this page]] to '''Hunter of the Dark'''. "Hunter of the Dark" comes from the name of the music played while you fight this Heartless. I know, it's just the music, and nothing ''technically'' says that this is its given name, but it's better than what we have. ''Anything'' is better than "unnamed Heartless". It's time to give this bro a name, IMO. | ||
Oh, and removed the redirect to [[KHWiki talk:Unnamed | Oh, and removed the redirect to [[KHWiki talk:Unnamed enemies|this page]]. Was that bad?}} | ||
:Last time that was suggested for Sunset Horizons, people blew a gasket. People are still fuming over Lingering Will, too, and that one has a much stronger, more direct case.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:04, 13 June 2011 (EDT) | :Last time that was suggested for Sunset Horizons, people blew a gasket. People are still fuming over Lingering Will, too, and that one has a much stronger, more direct case.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:04, 13 June 2011 (EDT) | ||
::No one's blowing a gasket now. And ''it'' is a better name than "Unnamed Heartless", you have to admit. --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 00:40, 14 June 2011 (EDT) | ::No one's blowing a gasket now. And ''it'' is a better name than "Unnamed Heartless", you have to admit. --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 00:40, 14 June 2011 (EDT) | ||
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{{Xabryn|text=Look just drop it okay, yes it it probably a heartless and blah blah blah. But the RoD is uncharted territory no one aside from Aqua satyed too long in there to look at the whole realm and we only see aqua wandering aroud there for a short while and yes all the she finds is darkness and heartless, but she also find [[Unnamed Heartless|something that is probably a heartless but we don't know for sure]] oh and the dark thing that summon Heartless, but anyway the RoD has many secrets that we don't know yet so yes it is uncharted territory | {{Xabryn|text=Look just drop it okay, yes it it probably a heartless and blah blah blah. But the RoD is uncharted territory no one aside from Aqua satyed too long in there to look at the whole realm and we only see aqua wandering aroud there for a short while and yes all the she finds is darkness and heartless, but she also find [[Unnamed Heartless|something that is probably a heartless but we don't know for sure]] oh and the dark thing that summon Heartless, but anyway the RoD has many secrets that we don't know yet so yes it is uncharted territory | ||
P.S.:The battle field for the Final Battle in KH is not in the realm of darkness it is in a place that has a door that goes to a place in the RoD where the [[Kingdom Hearts | P.S.:The battle field for the Final Battle in KH is not in the realm of darkness it is in a place that has a door that goes to a place in the RoD where the [[Kingdom Hearts|heart of all worlds is]]}} | ||
{{LapisScarab|time=15:54, 9 July 2011 (EDT)|text=What "dark thing that summon Heartless" are you talking about? Nothing summoned this Heartless, we see it stalking Aqua. | {{LapisScarab|time=15:54, 9 July 2011 (EDT)|text=What "dark thing that summon Heartless" are you talking about? Nothing summoned this Heartless, we see it stalking Aqua. | ||
I get why you're bringing this up, Xabryn. It's because our policy has been to have 100% confirmation, but this is taking it far too literal. We need to rethink/reword our policy, methinks. }} | I get why you're bringing this up, Xabryn. It's because our policy has been to have 100% confirmation, but this is taking it far too literal. We need to rethink/reword our policy, methinks. }} | ||
{{Xabryn|text=There is some darkness on the ground from where Shadows and Neoshadows pop out I'm not talking about this Heartless thing}} | |||
It's like an extension of the corridors of Darkness, used for travel by all Heartless (as that is how they ALL appear, and, if you move too far away, how they dissappear). {{The Inexistentsig}} 17:07, 9 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
Xabryn. | |||
The being is made of darkness. That much is inarguable. | |||
Heartless are ''defined'' as "the beings that are made from darkness." In practice, this means that they are either the reflection of or created form the darkness within people's hearts. But by definition, any being made of darkness is a Heartless. I do appreciate you wanting us to stick to policy, and here's the solid evidence we have so that this is not speculation.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:25, 9 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:I'm sorry to intrude, but didn't Xabryn say to drop the subject twice? {{User:CaelumLucisCaliga/Sig}} 23:59, 9 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
::Both times he's said that he's tacked on some new argument that begs for a response. Though I will give you credit again, Xabryn; you're very good about bringing this up and keeping the discussion to the talk page rather than changing things immediately.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}03:05, 10 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
I know, I just can't help it, when I see an argument like the one Kryten just used I just feel an urge to argument it back<!--, so here it goes, that's not necessarily true Kryten, or else technically Vanitas should be considered a Heartless, damn it I did it again -->.--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 08:43, 10 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:It actually ''is'' necessarily true, Xabryn. Not only do we have no explicit word what Vanitas is (so it's possible Nomura could intend him to be a Heartless, he certainly has an emblem), but he has a HEART of pure darkness, so he could also be a normal being -- just like the Princesses of Heart are humans, not light-monsters.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:47, 11 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
==UH's Render== | |||
Uh, guys! I found [[:File:UnnamedHeartlessRender.png|this]] uploaded by Soxra in The Keyhole Wiki. You think this can be a more suitable image?<font face=Times New Roman color=lightblue>—</font>[[User:Roxas-X-Namine|<font face=Times New Roman color=lightblue>Wing</font>]][[User talk:Roxas-X-Namine|<font face=Times New Roman color=lightblue>blade</font>]] | |||
:You can't just up and take their image, you need to get the original uploader's permission, and I don't think that it's worth the trouble of asking him/her for it, seeing as how ours is perfectly functional. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 09:25, 26 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
::Actually, although we can't use that image, I certainly would appreciate a full-body image like that. The one we have is good, but it only really illustrates the face.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 09:36, 26 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
The original image was found by [[User:Dark-EnigmaXIII|Dark-EnigmaXIII]], it was "touch up" by Soxra to remove the edge. So you have to ask him if you want to use it, though I doubt he would say yes... {{User:UnknownChaser/Sig}} 13:38, 26 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Actually Chaser, DE rendered it... he didn't "find" it... :P {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=5:59pm, July 26, 2011 (UTC)}} | |||
::Again, I don't want us to use their image. It's their image. I want us to try to create our own UH image that shows the full body.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:54, 26 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
Guys, I was expecting someone to kindly ask for one, but since none of you thought of the simplest solution, I decided to give you guys one just to be nice, and because Shard approach to the image bussines really touched me. Collaboration between wikis, that's what I want. I wouldnt have denied a render. Just wanted to say that, because it looks like if you didnt want to ask me for it.--'''[[User:Dark-EnigmaXIII|<font color=black><big>Dark-En</big>]][[User talk:Dark-EnigmaXIII|<font color=gray><big>igmaXIII</big>]]</font></font> 21:17, 17 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:The point wasn't to offend you by not asking for the render, we want to use our own image since we're different Wikis. The offer is much appreciated, though. {{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}21:24, 17 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::The image I provided now is not on wikia anymore. I deleted it in order to respect you guys desire. But have you realized I could have done another render, with a different pose, anytime I wished? I just find it stupid that you never thought of the simplest solution...--'''[[User:Dark-EnigmaXIII|<font color=black><big>Dark-En</big>]][[User talk:Dark-EnigmaXIII|<font color=gray><big>igmaXIII</big>]]</font></font> 21:28, 17 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::I agree with DE... there is really no shame in asking. Yes, the reason was to differentiate the Wikis, but if we are willing to provide you with images that we don't use, where's the harm, right? I'm glad to have seen Shard come forward and ask us about inter-Wiki events, and I do wish that others wouldn't be afraid to as well. {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=9:36pm, September 17, 2011 (UTC)}} | |||
:::Thank you guys, this one looks really awesome. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 21:49, 18 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::No problem. Let this be a token for our new image relantionship ^^--'''[[User:Dark-EnigmaXIII|<font color=black><big>Dark-En</big>]][[User talk:Dark-EnigmaXIII|<font color=gray><big>igmaXIII</big>]]</font></font> 00:51, 19 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
==Official Render== | |||
Courtesy of KH13.com - http://kh13.com/forum/gallery/image/40037-by5261iciaiwcg/ - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 04:08, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Dammit, they couldn't have included its name in the scan?? | |||
::EDIT: WAIT. IT'S CALLED "DARK HIDE"? (ダークハイド) --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 06:22, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Now we have its official name! Let's move it? {{User:Pea14733/Sig}} 06:38, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::I'm all for it! - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 07:35, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::Yup. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 15:05, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
Shouldn't we wait for the official English release? I mean, it's only two months from now, and the final name could be changed before then for the English release. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 15:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
:That really depends if we get a better official English guide this time around or not. If it's as craptastic as Prima's 1.5 ReMIX guide chances are we won't get the English name at all so I vote to move everything to the Japanese name and add a translation template. {{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 15:56, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
{{RikutheBloody|time=16:09, 2 October 2014 (UTC)|Haloween=Should we remove the move template then?}} | |||
I think it should be moved to "Dark Hide" now. It's a much more stable name than "Unnamed Heartless" and if the English release gives us a name, we can always move the page again. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 16:33, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
:I agree. Anything is better than "Unnamed Heartless". {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 16:54, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
::If we're lucky, there will be a place for a name in the game itself, so we won't have to rely on a crappy English guide. But yes, let's move and add a translation template. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 17:51, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
Maybe in 2.5, yes. {{User:Master Riku the Bloody/Sig1}} 17:56, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::Hm, why did we go for Dark Hide instead of Darkhide when the name is obviously a reference to (or even a pun of) Darkside? --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 23:25, 11 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::"Darkhide" is better, I think. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 23:31, 11 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::I wouldn't consider the name a pun of "Darkside." "Dark Hide" refers to the darkness and its camouflage abilities; it "hides" in the "dark"ness. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 03:12, 12 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::::For what it's worth, the Darkside's name refers to it being the darker side of a person, so the name is being conjoined there too.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 19:13, 23 February 2015 (UTC) | |||