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I'm a little curious to know who came up with this theory and from where. - [[User:~Wings of Destati~|~Wings of Destati~]] 11:23, 8 September 2007 (PTC) | I'm a little curious to know who came up with this theory and from where. - [[User:~Wings of Destati~|~Wings of Destati~]] 11:23, 8 September 2007 (PTC) | ||
This may be an old post - but it's not cannon. It's speculation made by some editors. [[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 01:34, August 31, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Naming== | ==Naming== | ||
Keyblade or Keyblade'''s'''?--[[user:NeloAngelo|N/A]] | Keyblade or Keyblade'''s'''?--[[user:NeloAngelo|N/A]] | ||
:I thought the [[ | :I thought the [[KHWiki:Manual of Style|MoS]] addressed that. Maintain singular for all article titles. [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 15:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
Keyblade is the singular and Keyblades is the plural. - [[User:~Wings of Destati~|~Wings of Destati~]] | Keyblade is the singular and Keyblades is the plural. - [[User:~Wings of Destati~|~Wings of Destati~]] | ||
I don't understand why they didn't name Xehanort's and Eraqus's keyblades in BBS--[[User:Logginglocos75|Jose Enrique Felix]] 00:16, December 2, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Keyblade vs. other weapons == | == Keyblade vs. other weapons == | ||
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Should this section really be included? It isn't a real keyblade and doesn't mean anything to the plot.[[Special:Contributions/75.129.247.170|75.129.247.170]] 00:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC) | Should this section really be included? It isn't a real keyblade and doesn't mean anything to the plot.[[Special:Contributions/75.129.247.170|75.129.247.170]] 00:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
I don't understand it either--[[User:Logginglocos75|Jose Enrique Felix]] 00:17, December 2, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Redirecting== | ==Redirecting== | ||
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It rather irks me as to how Terra's, Ven's and Aqua's Keyblades are rumored to be false because they lack keychains. Ever considered that they may actually either a special brand of Keyblade or even a prototype? | It rather irks me as to how Terra's, Ven's and Aqua's Keyblades are rumored to be false because they lack keychains. Ever considered that they may actually either a special brand of Keyblade or even a prototype? | ||
They aren't fake and only appeared without Keychains on the secret ending of Kingdom Hearts II. By snetonobre | |||
{{Maggosh|flint=This is a year old.}} | |||
== Another Report == | == Another Report == | ||
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I believe that | I believe that Naminé was born as a unique Nobody when Sora turned the Keyblade | ||
on his own body and Sora and Kairi's "hearts" departed his body at the same tme. | on his own body and Sora and Kairi's "hearts" departed his body at the same tme. | ||
Naminé was born as Kairi's Nobody. | |||
But to become a Nobody, Sora's body and soul were used as an intermediary... | But to become a Nobody, Sora's body and soul were used as an intermediary... | ||
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--[[User:SnoweyShadow|SnoweyShadow]] 15:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC) | --[[User:SnoweyShadow|SnoweyShadow]] 15:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
Huh... Nope. Lingering Semtiment's Keyblade changes form because someone taught him how to do that. This have nothing to do with the Keychains. By snetonobre. | |||
==Trivia section== | ==Trivia section== | ||
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}} | }} | ||
Any Keyblade Wielder can pass it's Keyblade to another Keyblade Wielder. Thought only some very well trained Keyblade Wielders can use more than one Keyblade at the same time. By snetonobre. | |||
== Keyblade Master == | == Keyblade Master == | ||
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*Fans argue whether the Keyblade of People's Hearts was a true keyblade, those in favor basing their opinions on speculated theories. However, when Sora talks with [[Leon]] at [[Traverse Town]] after his first trip to [[Hollow Bastion]], Leon explains that the Keyblade of People's Hearts was not a true Keyblade, as it was forged out of six of the seven princesses of heart's hearts, and, like Hollow Bastion's keyhole, would remain incomplete without the heart of the seventh princess, Kairi. Since Sora's use of the Keyblade of People's Hearts was a heroic sacrifice, instead of a malicious intention of use, the Keyblade of People's Hearts unraveled back to the six hearts of the princesses, which returned to their bodies. | *Fans argue whether the Keyblade of People's Hearts was a true keyblade, those in favor basing their opinions on speculated theories. However, when Sora talks with [[Leon]] at [[Traverse Town]] after his first trip to [[Hollow Bastion]], Leon explains that the Keyblade of People's Hearts was not a true Keyblade, as it was forged out of six of the seven princesses of heart's hearts, and, like Hollow Bastion's keyhole, would remain incomplete without the heart of the seventh princess, Kairi. Since Sora's use of the Keyblade of People's Hearts was a heroic sacrifice, instead of a malicious intention of use, the Keyblade of People's Hearts unraveled back to the six hearts of the princesses, which returned to their bodies. | ||
*In the ''Kingdom Hearts'' manga, Sora holds his Keyblade to his back with his belt when not in use, as opposed to calling it from and returning it to " | *In the ''Kingdom Hearts'' manga, Sora holds his Keyblade to his back with his belt when not in use, as opposed to calling it from and returning it to "{{w|Magic satchel|hammerspace}}" as he does in the games. | ||
However, it could be argued that both keychains returned in ''Kingdom Hearts II'' because both are fan favorites, and both represent Sora's friendship with Kairi and Riku respectively. Also, Oathkeeper had to return due to [[Sora]]'s promise to [[Kairi]] that he would return to her with Riku. | However, it could be argued that both keychains returned in ''Kingdom Hearts II'' because both are fan favorites, and both represent Sora's friendship with Kairi and Riku respectively. Also, Oathkeeper had to return due to [[Sora]]'s promise to [[Kairi]] that he would return to her with Riku. | ||
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But Master Xehanort has a keychain, as does his apprentice. So my question is, is a keychain something that a Keyblade wielder attains when they become a master? And does the fact that there are no Keyblade wielders in the timeline of the present Kingdom Hearts mean that the Keyblade had no choice but to grant Sora, Riku, and Kairi mastery? | But Master Xehanort has a keychain, as does his apprentice. So my question is, is a keychain something that a Keyblade wielder attains when they become a master? And does the fact that there are no Keyblade wielders in the timeline of the present Kingdom Hearts mean that the Keyblade had no choice but to grant Sora, Riku, and Kairi mastery? | ||
[[User:Dragonraptyr|Dragonraptyr]] 03:53, October 9, 2009 (UTC) | [[User:Dragonraptyr|Dragonraptyr]] 03:53, October 9, 2009 (UTC) | ||
So many incult people in the same talk page. Seriosly guys, and you consider your self fans of kingdom hearts. Terra, Aqua and Ven HAVE keychains in their keyblades. They just don't appeared in the secret ending of kingdom hearts II. Sora can use the Keyblade because it's heart is connected to Ventus heart, and Riku was covered in Darkness. Riku can use the Keyblade because Terra chose him as his sucessor. Kairi can use the Keyblade because she acidentally touched Aqua's Keyblade. By snetonobre. | |||
== Keychains...Again == | == Keychains...Again == | ||
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:Yes. It was also back when Sora was part lion.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 14:21, November 1, 2009 (UTC) | :Yes. It was also back when Sora was part lion.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 14:21, November 1, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Perhaps changing both the weapon and Sora's appearance was for the best. I doubt either would have been as appealing. Besides, the Keyblade is far more symbolic than a chainsaw, no? [[User:MezzoDragon|MezzoDragon]] 14:26, November 1, 2009 (UTC) | ::Perhaps changing both the weapon and Sora's appearance was for the best. I doubt either would have been as appealing. Besides, the Keyblade is far more symbolic than a chainsaw, no? [[User:MezzoDragon|MezzoDragon]] 14:26, November 1, 2009 (UTC) | ||
{{Template:ST|time=22:30, November 8, 2009 (UTC)|text=I found this on KHInsider in a forum claiming it to be Sora's original design [[File: | {{Template:ST|time=22:30, November 8, 2009 (UTC)|text=I found this on KHInsider in a forum claiming it to be Sora's original design [[File:Sora (Early Concept) 1 (Art).png]]Disclaimer: Keyword being 'claiming'. this image may not be authentic}} | ||
:::I hope not. This 'weapon' is nowhere as cool as the Keyblade. Plus, Sora's design is horrible. [[User:MezzoDragon|MezzoDragon]] 22:34, November 8, 2009 (UTC) | :::I hope not. This 'weapon' is nowhere as cool as the Keyblade. Plus, Sora's design is horrible. [[User:MezzoDragon|MezzoDragon]] 22:34, November 8, 2009 (UTC) | ||
{{NitrousX|text=I believe it is. This Sora is both part-lion '''and''' weilds a chainsaw.}} | {{NitrousX|text=I believe it is. This Sora is both part-lion '''and''' weilds a chainsaw.}} | ||
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Ookami Hitomatome 22:36, November 30, 2009 (UTC) | Ookami Hitomatome 22:36, November 30, 2009 (UTC) | ||
and what if you put multiple keychains on a keyblade would you get a bizzare fusion of them? | |||
==About Riku== | ==About Riku== | ||
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==Keyblade War Theory== | ==Keyblade War Theory== | ||
The keyblade war happened between the keyblade warriors from the realm of darkness, light and the between realm maybe this somehow created the realm' keyblades(kingdom key, kingdom key D and way to dawn) at the center of the world--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 23:42, February 7, 2010 (UTC) | The keyblade war happened between the keyblade warriors from the realm of darkness, light and the between realm maybe this somehow created the realm' keyblades(kingdom key, kingdom key D and way to dawn) at the center of the world--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 23:42, February 7, 2010 (UTC) | ||
==Differing Lengths== | |||
So this isn't news, but all of the keyblades shared by Terra, Ventus, and Aqua in BBS have different lengths depending on who's wielding them. I'm just bringing this to light because all of the BBS keyblade pages only list a single length for all three characters, when this clearly isn't the case. I made this point on the Sweetstack page before realizing it was across the board; Terra has almost all long keyblades, Ventus short, and Aqua medium. There are definitely exceptions and probably cases of "extra" long or short, but I don't know if there's a verifiable way to go through all of them and determine the "official" length for each character. --[[user:tendo64|tendo64]] [[Special:Contributions/70.188.152.9|70.188.152.9]] 23:27, October 6, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:The length listed is a modifier, just like the crit rate and crit boost. Each character has a default "length", and then this stacks on top of it. So, on the whole, "Long" Keyblades are longer than "Short" Keyblades.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Why don't you try it just to see</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>what happens?</small>]] 00:55, October 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Inheritance Ceremony == | |||
So, Nomura stated that only Keyblade Masters can do the ceremony, but yet Terra does it. Do we have an interview/source for Nomura saying this? And if so, how can we say that Terra performed it despite all this? The way it's written now, it implies that Terra is a Master. {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=5:52am, December 27, 2010 (UTC)}} | |||
:Terra is at the ''level'' of a Master, which would allow him to do as such. Of course, that's my opinion. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 05:56, December 27, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Not just in your opinion. If I remember correctly, in the interview where Nomura talked about the ceremony, he said that Terra was a Master in all but name. So he has the skill and ability level of a Master, just not the title (unless you count Xehanort's promotion...). --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 06:22, December 27, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::But isn't the title technically what would make him able to procure the ceremony? And if not, could we say something like: | |||
::::''It is shown in ''Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep'' that someone of Keyblade mastery level can choose a person as their successor, if they have the main qualities that allow them to hold a Keyblade, seen when Terra chose Riku to be his successor.'' | |||
:::{{User:Soxra/Sig|t=6:25am, December 27, 2010 (UTC)}} | |||
== It's ALIVE == | |||
is it jsut me or does the Keyblade have a form of sentinace? For one it choses its master, not the otherway around. And it gives its power to it's weilder. It seems that the keyblade has a mind of its own (Rejecting Riku and moved to sora)although who ever is connected to it will continue to be connected to that chosen one unless they forget how to use it. Feedback? - [[User:Clarkmaster|CLARKMASTER!]] 04:21, January 15, 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Overclock Tree == | |||
{{17m|text= Since I can't think of a better place to put it and this is something about Keyblades in RCO in general, I'll just put it in here. | |||
Shouldn't we use [[File:OFinish2RCO.png]] for Template:F instead of [[File:OFinish1RCO.png]]? Since it's the second one that marks the end of Overclock Tree while the first one's more like an icon for MAX Overclock Finisher (can't explain that one). Here's a screenshot for that: | |||
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/the17master/OFinish.png | |||
And here's a result of changing the second icon to the first one: | |||
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/the17master/OverclockTree.png | |||
}} | |||
== Merge with [[Keychain]]== | |||
{{LA|Vtext=No. | |||
I think Keychain has enough information to be a sentient article, especially with the additions of the token images. In fact, if there wasn't a ton of stuff missing from that page, I'd nominate it for Featured Article.}} | |||
== History == | |||
New parts of the Keyblade's history were revealed in 3D, Yen Sid mentions that people forged them to conquer the Light during the Keyblade War.[[Special:Contributions/76.108.148.206|76.108.148.206]] 20:16, 6 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
== A few questions == | |||
Hey, I've got a question but I need to ask some other questions to clear some things up first. Is that ok? And is it ok if i do it here?(those are some of the "other questions" I mentioned). [[Special:Contributions/97.81.45.56|97.81.45.56]] 19:29, 6 February 2013 (UTC) Rex Ronald Rilander | |||
Well, that depends on the type of questions. The talk page is usually use to discuss things relating to the article itself, to help improve it, for example. If you're just confused about something, the you can head to the forums.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:33, 6 February 2013 (UTC) | |||
Well, actually, I can't go to the forums, whenever I try to it says "WEBSITE BLOCKED BY NETGEAR FIREWALL". It's because of my web browser, so to get my questions answered it has to be on a talk page. Now, for my next question: the pictures of Keyblades in the infoboxes are renders from the games they appear in, right? and each one is accompanied by a picture of the Keychain token, right? Oh, and I just want some answers so, sorry. [[Special:Contributions/97.81.45.56|97.81.45.56]] 00:59, 7 February 2013 (UTC) Rex Ronald Rilander | |||
:They are renders from the games, yes. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 06:11, 7 February 2013 (UTC) | |||
But the Keyblades from KH3D are pictures from KHInsider and lack a picture of the Keychain token, right? [[Special:Contributions/97.81.45.56|97.81.45.56]] 17:53, 7 February 2013 (UTC) Rex Ronald Rilander | |||
:You're right, the original source of the images is the Ultimania though. Currently 3DS games can't be decrypted so model and image rips are out of question. {{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 20:18, 7 February 2013 (UTC) | |||
What? Really? aw man. My last question was gonna be "How long until we have renders and pics of the tokens?" but if that's the case... Oh well. Thanks to all of you guys anyways, I know these questions had nothing to do with helping the article but you three answered them anyways. Next time I'll make sure to help the article. [[Special:Contributions/97.81.45.56|97.81.45.56]] 20:55, 7 February 2013 (UTC) Rex Ronald Rilander | |||
== World's hearts == | |||
Whatever citation we use for that, it needs to be one that uses the name, and we need to grab the nihongo from it. Other than that, no preferences.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:22, 10 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:from the Director's Secret Report XIII (section V): [http://megalomanialive.blog73.fc2.com/blog-entry-14.html original], [http://www.khinsider.com/news/A-Look-Back-Director-s-Secret-Report-XIII-4883 newest translation] | |||
:光側、世界の心のキーブレード aka Keyblades of the hearts of worlds of light | |||
:闇側、世界の心のキーブレード aka Keyblades of the hearts of worlds of darkness | |||
:人の心のキーブレード aka Keyblades of people's hearts aka Keyblade of heart | |||
:The 6th Xehanort Report ([http://wikiwiki.jp/kh_series/?%A5%EC%A5%DD%A1%BC%A5%C8%2F%A1%DA%A5%BC%A5%A2%A5%CE%A1%BC%A5%C8%A5%EC%A5%DD%A1%BC%A5%C86%A1%DB original], [[Xehanort_Report#Xehanort.27s_Report_VI|translation]]) calls them like these: | |||
:光の世界のキーブレード translated to Keyblade of light | |||
:闇の世界のキーブレード translated to Keyblade of darkness --[[Special:Contributions/62.159.63.34|62.159.63.34]] 14:52, 10 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks!{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:28, 20 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
== prominent wielders == | |||
I don't think this section is necessary, as it's basically a summary of an existing page (which should probably be a see also). Does anyone have a compelling reason we should keep it?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:39, 4 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
I don't see the point of keeping that section, too. As long as there's still a link that redirects to the List of Keyblade wielders article, then it's enough, isn't it?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:10, 4 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
I'm all for removing it. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 21:08, 3 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
Enough has passed since Kryten brought it up, so final call: Any objections?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:25, 3 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
{{OpenTalk}} | |||
== Disney Infinity == | |||
" There is also an alternate skin for Mickey in ''Disney Infinity 3.0'' which resembles his ''Kingdom Hearts II'' outfit. However, the disc that would unlock the outfit was only given away to attendees of the 2015 D23 Expo, and wasn't sold anywhere else, which sparked some controversy from fans. " | |||
This needs to be moved to the appropriate page, rewritten without "however" language (exclusive DLC is perfectly normal), and we need a source for there being controversy beyond the person who posted this.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:34, 23 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Arby's Ad == | |||
{{ST|text=I don't know how often this happens in advertisement so I don't know if this is worth mentioning, but I noticed Arby's had this on their FB page: https://www.facebook.com/arbys/photos/a.403194711811.180375.51500251811/10154592036801812/?type=3&theater Is this something we would mention somewhere?}} | |||
:Yeah, probably.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:38, 13 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
https://imgur.com/80ZVP12 {{unsigned|KrytenKoro}} | |||
Lol! XD That's cute. When did Arby's teamed up with SE to do this for ''Kingdom Hearts''? I didn't hear an announcement about it. Uh..it is legal, isn't it? I heard Arby's gotten into some legal issues in the past.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:01, 14 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Memorial Ultimania == | |||
The Memorial Ultimania lists the Keyblades as: | |||
;Significant relation to the main story Keyblades | |||
*Kingdom Key | |||
*Oathkeeper | |||
*Oblivion | |||
*Way to the Dawn | |||
*Kingdom Key D | |||
*Star Seeker | |||
*Two Become One | |||
*Earthshaker | |||
*Ends of the Earth | |||
*Chaos Ripper | |||
*Wayward Wind | |||
*Lost Memory | |||
*Rainfell | |||
*Destiny's Embrace | |||
*Stormfall | |||
*Brightcrest | |||
;World Motif Keyblades | |||
*Wonderland: Lady Luck | |||
*Deep Jungle: Jungle King | |||
*Olympus Coliseum: Olympia, Hero's Crest, Mark of a Hero, Fatal Crest (Underworld) | |||
*Agrabah: Three Wishes, Wishing Lamp | |||
*Monstro: Wishing Star | |||
*Atlantica: Crabclaw, Mysterious Abyss | |||
*Halloween Town: Pumpkinhead, Decisive Pumpkin | |||
*Neverland: Fairy Harp, Pixie Petal | |||
*Hollow Bastion: Divine Rose | |||
*The Land of Dragons: Hidden Dragon | |||
*Beast's Castle: Rumbling Rose | |||
*Timeless River: Monocrhome | |||
*Port Royal: Follow the Wind | |||
*Pride Lands: Circle of Life | |||
*Space Paranoids: Photon Debugger | |||
*100 Acre Wood: Sweet Memories | |||
*Enchanted Dominion: Fairy Stars | |||
*Dwarf Woodlands: Treasure Trove | |||
*Castle of Dreams: Stroke of Midnight | |||
*Disney Town: Victory Line | |||
*Deep Space: Hyperdrive | |||
*Dataspace: Zero/One | |||
*Traverse Town: Skull Noise (The World Ends With You), Knockout Punch (Hockomonkey) | |||
*La Cite des Cloches: Guardian Bell | |||
*The Grid: Dual Disc | |||
*Prankster's Paradise: Ferries Gear, Ocean's Rage (Monstro) | |||
*Country of the Musketeers: All for One | |||
*Symphony of Sorcery: Counterpoint | |||
*Combined Keyblade | |||
;Entry Character Motif Keyblades | |||
*Merlin: Spellbinder | |||
*Cloud: Metal Chocobo, Fenrir | |||
*Sephiroth: One-Winged Angel | |||
*Leon: Lionheart, Sleeping Lion | |||
*YRP: Gullwing | |||
*Auron: Guardian Soul | |||
*Axel: Bond of Flame | |||
*Lea: Frolic Flame | |||
*Vanitas: Void Gear | |||
*Eraqus: Master's Defender | |||
*Young Xehanort: No Name | |||
*Lea's Keyblade | |||
;Minigame Prize, etc. Keyblades | |||
*Ultima Weapon | |||
*Diamond Dust | |||
*Winner's Proof | |||
*Darkgnaw | |||
*Sweetstack | |||
*Royal Radiance | |||
*Sweet Dreams | |||
*Divewing | |||
*End of Pain | |||
*Unbound | |||
;''KH Days''-related Keyblades | |||
*That whole list | |||
;Keyblades used by dark forces | |||
*Keyblade of heart | |||
*Vanitas's Keyblade (specifically not called Void Gear) | |||
*Master Xehanort's Keyblade (specifically not called No Name) | |||
*χ-blade | |||
*Young Xehanort's Keyblade | |||