Talk:Axel: Difference between revisions

==A little help with Axel's Data Replica, please ?==

A little help here, please, and thank you !}}

I'm not sure, I don't have Final Mix but I think the Reaction only appears when you finish a combo, or when he hides in flames (Shrugs)

{{TNE|text=Okay, let me give it in a little more detail. The HP bar depletes faster when Sora's on the flames. Hiding in flames is not going to trigger the Reaction Command (this is similar for all Data Replica battles).}}

might be late but i meant when ''Axel'' hides in the flames.

== Uhh.... ==

Umm...I have a question:Is possible for humanoid Nobodies to...have kids?

[[User:GohanRULEZ|gohanRULEZ]] 18:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I suppose the only things they're missing are hearts but.....

BUT?

[[User:GohanRULEZ|gohanRULEZ]] 18:36, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

{{Xiggie|text=hehe, I've thought about this before :P ''Can nobodies breed?''}}

wow... what an odd question. uuummmmmm... my guess would be yes. Because in physically speaking, they have human bodies. but then agian, a Nobody child would has no heart, something needed for complete exsistance. But it would be a Nobody child, meaning it would never be complete in the first place.... my guess is still yes though. -[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]]

{{Gohantalk|time=It's time to break stuff!|text=Good! I was gonna write an Fanfic were Axel and Shizune from Naruto were going to get together and have a Kid.}}

.....good..luck. glad i could...help.. O.o -[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]]

The only problem with the theory is that Nobodies are supposed to be nonexistent. What's more, they're created from the body of a strong-hearted person turned Heartless. If they wanted to reproduce, they could just throw people into the darkness. [[User:Keyblader|Keyblader]] 20:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

|time=13:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

|text=That wouldn't be reproduction, Keyblader. That'd be increasing the "population", but we're discussing reproduction in the biological sense. Seriously though, it would be interesting to say the least.

Picture the scene: Xemnas and Saïx are discussing a new mission...<font color=#000000 face="courier">

Saïx:   ...and which member should I assign this mission to, Xemnas?

Xemnas: Larxene hasn't been assigned anything for a while. Send her.

Xemnas: <facepalms></font>

It would be pretty funny if that happened :P

|category=Nobiology discussion

Is it true that Axel said 'damn' in Chain of Memories?Pizzahut101 02:19, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=I'm not sure, but I know he said it in the prologue of Kingdom Hearts II, when he was trying to abduct Roxas for the first time.}}

The only thing that could ever be called a swear in COM was that "give me a hell of a show!" thing.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 07:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=But I wouldn't entirely say that Axel is foul-mouthed... I mean, of course, he goes past the limits of an E-rated game, but unlike most others, he has emotions, and that's what earns him our sympathy.}}

I was very sad when poor Axel died. He and Roxas are the only members that don't desearve to die (dispite Roxas still being alive). Amalia 12:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=True..... Why is it that the mentors must always die ? Ansem the Wise died. Axel died. Goodness knows what happened to Terra (and God forbid, he became Xehanort !).}}

I wouldn't be amazed if Axel cussing is true, in my opinion Axel is probably the weirdest character so far.--[[User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart|PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart]] 18:01, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

{{Rikloud|text=he is also one of the coolest the others being Roxas and Riku}}

{{Flashpenny | It's kinda a golden rule of pop culture: video games, movies, books etc. If there's a character that's lovable and everyone likes, they're screwed. What happened to Gandalf in the first Lord of the Rings movie? Read Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Watch Dante's Peak and tell me what happens to Granny Ruth. You get my point.}}

{{PrincessAndie|text= he does cuss in CoM, I just got to that point in the game. But I don't think he said... da- ... uh... the D word in CoM, if he does, I haven't seen it yet.

( I don't believe in cussing anymore, so I try not to say that stuff anymore. :( It's really hard. )}}

It was when he used Namine to double-cross Marluxia and Larxene. The words were changed when it went to Re: CoM. [[User:Keyblader|Keyblader]] 20:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

"weirdest" would probably be Xigbar (or demyx).

Me (xion) and my brother (axl) were using the screen names xion and axl for years before kingdom hearts came out . Some game desingers saw us on the net and stole our names.--[[Special:Contributions/208.118.200.168|208.118.200.168]] 19:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC) xion.

{{Xiggie|shocked=again, I really doubt that!

plus, how does axl connect to Ax'''e'''l?

anyway, Axel is somewhat based on a FF character named Reno, his favorite drink was ALE, and rumbled together +X, they make Axel!

 

plus, If my name was the same as a KH character, I'd be delighted!}}

:Sorry if I sound rude, anon, but get over yourself.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 00:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|blahtext=I do have to agree with Xiggie and Urutapu. Just because your screen names feature in Days ? '''''Get real''''', buddy. It should be an honour !}}

{{Guardian Soul|text=Obviously a coincidence.}}

 

{{Firaga44|text=that would be cool if they had a character named after me}}

 

You're kidding me, right? You think that a board of Creators in Japan is going to say, "Oh, look! We can take these two random names from the internet! It works perfectly! And one of them even sounds like a common enough Japanese name! Doesn't this work so nicely?" Lose the sense of grandeur. [[User:Keyblade Mage|Keyblade Mage]] 00:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)Keyblade Mage

 

==Axel playable in single player in 358/2 Days==

 

 

 

He's not the only one. Xaldin, Demyx and Luxord have different weapons too and they are played in solo too. Speaking of Axel, where's that new pic. The one where he's holding his chakrams in the character section?

:::Everybody is saying that it does. [[User:Guardian Soul|Guardian Soul]] 23:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

== Axel used to know Saïx? ==

{{Guardian Soul|text="Axel: 'When I'm talking with Roxas and Xion,

I remember my time as a human. Various memories of my childhood come back to me,

and I get some kind of weird feeling.

You'd think I could talk to Saix in the same way, but,

weirdly enough I don't feel like talking to him like that.

It's only a strangely fond thought.

It's not me who's changed... it's you.'"

{{KrytenKoro|Well, for all intents and purposes Axel is Reno, so maybe Saix and possibly Demyx or Luxord are meant to embody other Turks? It is after all a virtually analogous organization.}}

 

{{unbirthtalk|text=I bet we'll see their somebodies (Axel's and Saïx's) in BBS. They're probably childhood friends, who've lost their hearts when their world was destroyed (but after BBS, since they weren't probably nobodies yet when the Organization was created).

 

The only thing I'm worried about is Axel's real name, '''Lea'''... It's a girl name...}}

{{TNE|happytext=Yowzer, how could they ever think of naming a boy Lea ? Unless the name cites Richard At Lea, one of the characters from the legendary Robin Hood.

 

Ale is possible, but it's Reno's fave drink. Ela ? Lae ? Yikes. And Saix ? Goodness knows what his real name is.

 

@Kryten : Luxord ? Perhaps. Larxene ? Definitely. Demyx ? I don't know. Saix ? I don't think so. Were there any berserk-ish people among the Turks ?}}

{{yer mom|text=Well IMO Saïx does resemble Tseng, in the cool silent type, of course he didn't go berserk but that might come with the Nobodyness XD! Who knows}}

 

 

On any note, I think Saix and Axel did know each other back in the past. I think, when I heard Saix called Axel his true name, Lea, I think Saix was the one who'd found him, when he joined the Organization!}}

 

 

{{NinjaSheik|text=In 358/2 Days, Xiggie. I've watched the Japanese gameplay on YouTube.}}

|time=20:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

|text=Re: Turks: Larxene is only one letter wrong for a xagranam of Elena, and both of them have blonde hair...

 

 

For Axel, in a secret report (can be found at heartstation) we can read this:

 

 

Things such as Roxas and Xion both pulling out of the Organization wasn’t part of our plan. Why did this happen? Roxas had become strong enough to knock me down. Lea, what did you want to do in the end? The plan we decided when the two of us joined the Organization together… No, that’s also already just a pipe dream. Everything has changed, hasn’t it? You, and me too…"

 

So, they do join the Organization at the same time. What could this plan be ?}}

 

 

{{Flashpenny | The page also says they probably once were friends but I find this hard to believe. Last time I checked most friends don't put a bounty on other friends' heads prompting an army of Dusks to attempt to hunt him down.}}

|time=18:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

|text=Firstly, yellow text + white background = eye strain.<br><br>Secondly, you may have noticed that Saïx is a cold emotionless git. I think you'll find that's because he became a Nobody, hence the deterioration of the friendship that used to exist between <insert Saïx's true name here> and Lea. The key phrase is in your own post: they ''were'' friends, past tense.

|category=Reprimand and explanation, respectively

}}

{{Flashpenny | Good point.

 

Also I fail to see why you're complaining 'bout my text box. Is there something wrong with your monitor because it's yellow text over a blue background which is clearly readable.}}

:...no, your template code clearly states that it's yellow on lightred, which isn't a code-color, so it goes to white. I corrected it to "pink", but it's still pretty unreadable.

 

I have a question. Now that 358/2 Days came out in Japan, should we make separate articles on the Org.XIII Weapons? You know, like how we have an article on the Keyblade (even though it "IS" an important weapon). I think it will make it more organized to have the weapons separated by their user, for example have an article on Charkams and have the different kinds with their stats. Any insight is greatly appreciated! [[User:Xlatinsorax|Xlatinsorax]] 14:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

 

BTW, Who is Lea? I've looked everywhere for a pic of her(him?) but it's like she doesn't exist...

 

Lea is Axel's name as a Somebody... so there probably isn't any pic of Lea as he is Axel. --[[User:Yer mom|Yer mom]] 00:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

::Technically you ''could'' have separate pictures of Lea. After all, the Nobody always looks slightly different to their Other. A significant difference is often lighter hair: Roxas and Naminé, for example {{User:Sorceror Nobody/Sig|11:58, 4 July 2009 (UTC)}}

:Well there was the article called Organization XIII weapons were all the info on Axel's chakrams and Saïx's claymore and all that stuff was stored but when Days came out a lot of weapons came out with it. Having a single article for all the types of Chakrams, one for all the types of Lexicons (in Zexion's case) and another one for all the tipes of Knives (in Larexene's case) would seem alright at first but there are many types of weapons for each, hence the idea of creating a page for every single weapon instead of grouping all the types in a page (since it would look cramped), it's just like the keyblade, since it's such an iconic weapon it has its single page, but every type of keyblade has its own page with its own stats, where to obtain it, appeareance and stuff, in the case of the Orgainzation's weapons it's more or less like that, every weapon gets its page and the generic name for each (i.e. Axel's chakrams) is explained in his own page under the title Weapon like in [[Axel#Weapon|here]], I hope that helps XD --[[User:Yer mom|Yer mom]] 16:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

::Yea it makes sense. I was thinking, though, more along the lines of the Keyblade and using that as an example. Maybe we should wait until we get more information on their individual weapons and their stats/locations/etc..... [[User:Xlatinsorax|Xlatinsorax]] 03:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

the title says it all[[User:Joekeybladeaura|Joekeybladeaura]] 16:03, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

[[User:Joekeybladeaura|Joekeybladeaura]] 16:03, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

{{OotL|text= which one?}}

{{PrincessAndie|text= When I was playing Re: CoM, my mom thought Axel was a girl!!! XD Just wanted to say that...}}

==Last Man Standing, Sorta==

:Yeah, Axel doesn't die in COM. If he died, it be sort of impossible for him to appear in KH2. [[User:JudgmentDay95|JudgmentDay95]] 20:25 12 July 2009 (UTC)

{{EO||talktext=Axel only "played" dead on CoM. He returned to Roxas' side at the World That Never Was afterward. He later died saving Sora because of Roxas in KH2.}}

Yea, I was just making sure he was the only one who didn't die...[[User:Givox|Givox]] 01:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== Lea ==

{{EO|time=12:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)|happytext=How should I be pronouncing "Lea" as of yet? I know that Days isn't out yet, but should I be saying "Leah", "Lee-ay", or "Lee"?}}

:I think it's "Lee-uh". [[User:JudgmentDay95]] 13:04 15 July 2009 (UTC)

::That's right.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 18:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

{{EO|time=20:54, 15 July 2009 (UTC)|happytext=Thanks. I hate that pronunciation, sounds to "girly" for Axel, but Ok. I think "Lee-ay" would be much better, but on the plus side, at least I've been saying it right...}}

{{Xiggie|time=21:42, 15 July 2009 (UTC)|text=I know that it is pronounced "lee-ah", but I when I see this name, I keep thinging "læ" (æ is a letter which makes the sound ae, like in "Lie")... and pronounce it like you say lie :P

Damm my Icelandic brain :P}}

{{EO|time=21:59, 15 July 2009 (UTC)|happytext="Lie" would actually be cool for Axel. But even if they don't pronounce it this way, I'll always call him "Lee-ay" ^_^. But Lie is also cool, because it fits Axel's devious personality.}}

{{MM841|21:17, 30 July 2009 (UTC)|I am sure it is pronounced Lay-a}}

:It should be "Lee-a" according to the katakana but if the English version changes it, it wouldn't be the first time (it should be "Veek-sen", not "Veck-sen").—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 21:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

lea is just axel without the x and scrambled up...(i felt like i had 2 say tht^^) [[User:Ninabean822]]

{{EO|time=08:46, September 28, 2009 (UTC)|text= Official English videos of the cutscenes reveal it to be pronounced "Lee", as seen here, in the first few moments of the video. Skip to 0:56. Here's the link : [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMNZtX6Fan8&feature=player_profilepage] }}

:Good job for them. I was wondering how they were gonna manage to make it sound masculine.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 16:45, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

== axel emo?? ==

but i suppose it was better for axel to die tbh

{{ERJ|01:50, 19 August 2009 (UTC)|By definition, "emo" just means that a person displays a narrow range of emotions.  Technically, most RPG characters are "emo."}}

{{firaga44|text=guys when did axel say but don't waste your time we are nobodies we can never hope to be somebodies when did axel say that because i don't remember it in kingdom hearts 2}}

== RE:just saying ==

{{Firaga44|text=huh that's impossible riku never turned into a heartless and besides it defies the rules but then again namine birth does defie the rules to but riku turned to the darkness and someone correct if i'm wrong but riku was heart was strong enough to not turn into a heartless meaning that unless there was the most confusing rule in the book that you don't have to turn into a heartless to have a nobody the only expection to the rule is kairi since she had no darkness in her heart(wow longest speech i've ever given)}}

Nah, your right Firaga. Riku never turned into a heartless. Also, Orgainization members names originate from their original names (with an "X" added in it somewhere). For instance: Vexen- Even  Zexion- Lenzo  Xemnas- Ansem, etc.--[[User:Xion4ever|Xion4ever]] 20:03, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

{{Firaga44|text=ok and never make me have to do a long speech like that again please two longs speechs for the day is pretty much all i can take and i love axel's japanese voice!i've gotten pretty much addicted to it and steff for zexion's orginal name i think you mean Ienzo for it that's all i wanted to say}}

== Lea... ==

When exactly does Saïx call Axel by that name, besides the reports that is.

And is it Lee-ah or Leh-ya (As in Princess Leia)?[[User:Neo Hartless|Neo Hartless]] 20:27, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

:Japanese katakana say it's "Lee-a", but the English version changed it to "Lee".—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 23:11, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

But when's it spoken? [[User:Neo Hartless|Neo Hartless]] 17:46, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMNZtX6Fan8&feature=player_profilepage—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 17:52, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

== so tardy to this party. ==

== Origin ==

i think there's far too much speculation in the origin section. We should summarize it to a more subtle view[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 03:08, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Agreed.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 03:21, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

:Well I know some of the info in there comes from Days, and as I haven't played the game I can't be too sure how much is speculation. Wanna edit it yourself so the speculation is taken out? --{{User:Yer mom/Sig}} 03:22, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

 

Just leave it the way it was for a little.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 03:38, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

 

 

Think about it. True, most of this stuff is speculation, but it makes sense, don't you think? We don't know anything about Axel's past besides the fact that his Somebody's name was Lea and he was once friends with Axel. Plus, they both plan to take over the Organization that was stated in Secret Reports.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 03:48, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

no it doesnt. the origin says Saix changed while axel has stayed the same. in kh2 hardly any interaction did Axel have with Saix. yes they both plannedo n taking over the organization but ultimately gave up. still that's not really  "origin". Too detailed and it really doesnt follow "origin".

i already removed the areas where it's greatly speculated, but the areas were it's a simple speculation, i kept it in.[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 03:47, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

::It's not speculation, it's in the damn Secret Reports, like I already sayed. "I'm not the one who changed, you are." et all.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:15, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

that's not much of origin still. also it said saix changed and axel didnt. the report says they both did. Again, Origin. it doesnt fit in origin section

Still most of the ORigin explaines what is already in Days and KH2. ORigin would have to explain an earea where the story hasnt revealed time-wise.

:...It explains what happens before the actual events of those games, as it should.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 05:23, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

no it doesnt. Saix told axel he has changed, so axel changed during 358/2 days. the events before the games would be "he use to be a person named Lea but during the timeline of kh1 he lost his heart and his body and soul became a nobody along with his friend. the organization soon find him and make him a member, resulting to his name changed to "axel" along with his friend "Saix".

everything else is still "in-game"

Hm, I think Axel is marvelous. I've liked him right from the beginning of KH II, but the more that comes out about him the more I do :) As for him being friends with Saix, I wish I knew where to find the secret reports (sadly I do not have a DS or a high proficiency in Japanese, so I'm stuck watching the 'Days' cutscenes). If anyone has videos or translations, I would appreciate a link. 

 

And, psh. Lea. At least it's pronounced somewhat masculine. --[[User:Butterflyeffext|Butterflyeffext]] 18:56, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

 

 

{{DOH|text= Does Axel wear eyeliner? And what about the teardrops under his eyes?}}

{{EO|time=22:36, October 29, 2009 (UTC)|talktext=Now, I want you to examine my talk bubble image REALLY CLOSE-LIKE! Axel does not wear eyeliner... Nomura just gave him "Egyptian Lashes", I'd say. As for the tear drops, they are supposed to match Reno's scar-like tatoos, as Reno was Axel's basis.}}

==Lea Page==

{{Template:ST|time=16:53, October 31, 2009 (UTC)|text=Since we have pages on the founding members, Shouldn't we have a page for Lea since we now have his name? (i know we have more info on the founding members but...)}}

{{PrincessAndie|text= I don't think we should, The only thing we would have is: Axel's somebody. Mentioned by Saix on Day______.}}

{{NitrousX|text=I dunno... He '''is''' a character but... I just don't know.}}

{{Template:ST|time=17:49, October 31, 2009 (UTC)|text=Nevermind, just made it. It could use some work, but I think its good for starters}}

{{Template:ST|time=18:07, October 31, 2009 (UTC)|text=I'm glad you mentioned the other members interacting with others, cuz it gives me cause to point out that they had pages long before we knew they would be in BbS, and there pages looked very much like Lea's}}