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No, you're right. There is an Ansem Report 0 and it is very much different than Ansem Report 1. | No, you're right. There is an Ansem Report 0 and it is very much different than Ansem Report 1. | ||
Ansem Report 0 is the only report that Ansem the Wise wrote himself, afterwords Xehanort wrote Ansem Reports 1-12. | Ansem Report 0 is the only report that Ansem the Wise wrote himself, afterwords Xehanort wrote Ansem Reports 1-8.(Ansem's Other Report 2) | ||
But I think it was exclusive to Final Mix. | |||
:Are you sure it isn't just that the Reports are numbered 0-12 instead of 1-13 in the Japanese version? I was pretty sure I had seen it that way.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 04:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
{{TNE|text=Or is it 0-13 ?}} | |||
I think it was 1-12 in the US and original Japanese version, but then FM added 0 and 13. | |||
no. Ansem report 1 and "Ansem report 0" are the same. and beyond that the US version only had 1-10(0-9) | |||
== Report 9 == | == Report 9 == | ||
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- This still doesn't make sense. If they talked "for hours," why would the King not immediately remember where he saw Xemnas's original person? It takes him a while before he remembers him as Ansem the Wise's apprentice. | - This still doesn't make sense. If they talked "for hours," why would the King not immediately remember where he saw Xemnas's original person? It takes him a while before he remembers him as Ansem the Wise's apprentice. | ||
--Xehanort did only see the King for a brief moment. The real Ansem talked with Mickey for hours. Xehanort only wrote Ansem reports 1-8. The real Ansem made the rest. | |||
::The original reports also often have Xehanort saying "my people", and speak of having too frail a body. This, and the conversation with Mickey, is in clear contradiction with the KHII Reports. The real explanation is that DiZ was shoehorned into the story later, but the in-game explanation is probably that Xehanort went through the same thing Cloud did - some trauma made him deeply believe he was Ansem. This is born out not only through his phrasing and false memories, like Cloud, but that he even calls himself Ansem. After all, he was originally found with no memories, so it's possible that this sort of thing happens often with him.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 17:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC) | ::The original reports also often have Xehanort saying "my people", and speak of having too frail a body. This, and the conversation with Mickey, is in clear contradiction with the KHII Reports. The real explanation is that DiZ was shoehorned into the story later, but the in-game explanation is probably that Xehanort went through the same thing Cloud did - some trauma made him deeply believe he was Ansem. This is born out not only through his phrasing and false memories, like Cloud, but that he even calls himself Ansem. After all, he was originally found with no memories, so it's possible that this sort of thing happens often with him.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 17:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
He just took Ansem's identity and he pretended those experiences were his.--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 23:44, October 27, 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Fiction == | == Fiction == | ||
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Cid: I’m sure Maleficent’s got most of the pages. | Cid: I’m sure Maleficent’s got most of the pages. | ||
== Naming == | |||
In KH1 at least, it's called "Ansem's Report". Should we move the article?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 05:28, 19 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
{{TNE|text=Let's get [[User:BebopKate|our friendly neighbourhood sysop]] to approve of this.}} | |||
the [[Jiminy's Journal|Journal]] actually uses Ansem Reports | |||
{{KrytenKoro|Do you mean in KH2? It definitely calls them "Ansem's Report" in KH1.}} | |||
No the [[Jiminy's Journal|Journal]] Uses Ansem Report'''s''' in kingdom hearts | |||
{{KrytenKoro|...well, you're wrong.}} | |||
== Obtaining == | |||
{{Veroso|text= Should we put how you obtain the Ansem Reports?}} | |||
I agree we need to add that as well.[[Special:Contributions/76.108.136.28|76.108.136.28]] 23:43, September 9, 2010 (UTC) | |||
We've done it with the Xehanort Reports, so we should do it here also. [[User:LightoftheDarkness|LightoftheDarkness]] 11:50, November 11, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Bleig == | |||
In the trivia section of Braig's page, it says the North American version mispells it as "Bleig." But on this page, it spells Braig correctly. Should we change that so that it is the text from the game? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 23:13, October 17, 2010 (UTC) | |||
No, Birth by Sleep corrects it by spelling it as Braig --ShadowsTwilight 23:22, October 17, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Understandable, but the subject matter, Secret Ansem Report 3, is based on the original text from KHII, not BBS. With that in mind, I would imagine that it should at least be mentioned in the notes section. [[User:Eyestothesky|Eyestothesky]] 09:25, November 11, 2010 (UTC) | |||