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==Revival==
==Revival==
Hey guys, I'm [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] and I've invited all editors here to address some stuff for reviving this wiki.  Please chime in however you like.  I'll break it into headings.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 09:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys, I'm [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] and I've invited all editors here to address some stuff for reviving this wiki.  Please chime in however you like.  I'll break it into headings.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 09:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


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#Doesn't limit the copyright holder from making money off of it (you usually won't have to worry about this with pictures).
#Doesn't limit the copyright holder from making money off of it (you usually won't have to worry about this with pictures).


I think promotional photos, like the pictures found on [[Wikipedia:Organization XIII|Wikipedia's Organization XIII article]] are okay because they're used to promote the game.
I think promotional photos, like the pictures found on {{w|Organization XIII|Wikipedia's Organization XIII article}} are okay because they're used to promote the game.


A number of images lack sourcing info of any kind and are excessive in use - being used for decoration, rather than informative.  Unfortunately, Wikia doesn't really allow this :-(  I've tagged several for deletion and they'll probably get deleted soon by a staff member, but if you think one that was deleted was really fair use, don't panic; I saved all the pictures on my hard drive in case that happened.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 09:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
A number of images lack sourcing info of any kind and are excessive in use - being used for decoration, rather than informative.  Unfortunately, Wikia doesn't really allow this :-(  I've tagged several for deletion and they'll probably get deleted soon by a staff member, but if you think one that was deleted was really fair use, don't panic; I saved all the pictures on my hard drive in case that happened.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 09:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
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:::::::I'd hoped someone else would reply first, but maybe they'll see mine in my contribs or recent changes and offer their opinion<!-----HINT HINT IF YOU'RE READING THIS ANYONE----->.  That seems like a good solution to me, but for obvious reasons others should voice whether or not they're ok with it.  Specifically, no one's said anything about my adminship except Dreyfus, and while I'm thankful for your confidence, if anyone has any objections to this, they'd be best heard now rather than later.  Don't worry, I won't take it personally :-)  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 11:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I'd hoped someone else would reply first, but maybe they'll see mine in my contribs or recent changes and offer their opinion<!-----HINT HINT IF YOU'RE READING THIS ANYONE----->.  That seems like a good solution to me, but for obvious reasons others should voice whether or not they're ok with it.  Specifically, no one's said anything about my adminship except Dreyfus, and while I'm thankful for your confidence, if anyone has any objections to this, they'd be best heard now rather than later.  Don't worry, I won't take it personally :-)  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 11:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


Well I take lack of "noooooo..." to be full agreemnet ;) So I've set Scottch as admin and bureaucrat.  Thanks for taking this on Scottch, and let me know if you need any help -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[User_talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 09:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Well I take lack of "noooooo..." to be full agreement ;) So I've set Scottch as admin and bureaucrat.  Thanks for taking this on Scottch, and let me know if you need any help -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[User_talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 09:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


*Yay!  I agree; that is a good idea.--[[User:Dreyfus2006|Dreyfus]] 01:01, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
*Yay!  I agree; that is a good idea.--[[User:Dreyfus2006|Dreyfus]] 01:01, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
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Community Portals are places to bring up issues to everyone on the wiki, so if you have something that you'd like everyone's attention or need help or whatever, you can edit here.  To reply to any section, just click the "edit" button in the right margin or the edit button at the top of the page to edit the entire page.  I've added <nowiki> a "__NEWSECTIONLINK__" bit to the top of the page; as long as that's there, you can start a new heading by clicking the "+" button on top of the page, so please don't remove the "__NEWSECTIONLINK__". </nowiki>
Community Portals are places to bring up issues to everyone on the wiki, so if you have something that you'd like everyone's attention or need help or whatever, you can edit here.  To reply to any section, just click the "edit" button in the right margin or the edit button at the top of the page to edit the entire page.  I've added <nowiki> a "__NEWSECTIONLINK__" bit to the top of the page; as long as that's there, you can start a new heading by clicking the "+" button on top of the page, so please don't remove the "__NEWSECTIONLINK__". </nowiki>


<nowiki>One more thing: it's a good idea to sign comments you make with 4 tildaes: ~~~~.  </nowiki>This will put your username as a link to [[Special:Mypage|your userpage]] and also put a date and timestamp on it.  This can help us keep track of who says what.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 09:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
<nowiki>One more thing: it's a good idea to sign comments you make with 4 tildaes: ~~~~.  </nowiki>This will put your username as a link to [[Special:Mypage|your user page]] and also put a date and timestamp on it.  This can help us keep track of who says what.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 09:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


=== <nowiki>{{SITENAME}}</nowiki> change ===
=== <nowiki>{{SITENAME}}</nowiki> change ===
I've asked if the SITENAME (which appears when you type <nowiki>{{SITENAME}}</nowiki> and is the heading for all project namespace pages) can be changed from "Kingdom Hearts Wiki" to "Kingdom Hearts", since it's shorter and more manageable, and more standard to other Wikia wikis.  However, I told them I'd see if anyone has any objections.  So, anyone?  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 04:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I've asked if the SITENAME (which appears when you type <nowiki>{{SITENAME}}</nowiki> and is the heading for all project namespace pages) can be changed from "Kingdom Hearts Wiki" to "Kingdom Hearts", since it's shorter and more manageable, and more standard to other Wikia wikis.  However, I told them I'd see if anyone has any objections.  So, anyone?  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 04:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
*Never mind, [http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:SITENAME_change%3F&diff=61222&oldid=61220 someone brought up] a couple things that make it a bad idea.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 04:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
*Never mind, [http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:SITENAME_change%3F&diff=61222&oldid=61220 someone brought up] a couple things that make it a bad idea.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 04:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


== Huge thanks ==
== Huge thanks ==
Huge thanks to everyone who is helping expand the wiki! It's coming along great.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 00:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Huge thanks to everyone who is helping expand the wiki! It's coming along great.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 00:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


== IRC ==
== IRC ==
I've set up an IRC channel for us at freenode (irc.freenode.net).  There's the main Wikia channel at #wikia, but now we have #khwiki.  If we oculd get together here and there, it'd be great!  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 10:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I've set up an IRC channel for us at freenode (irc.freenode.net).  There's the main Wikia channel at #wikia, but now we have #khwiki.  If we oculd get together here and there, it'd be great!  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 10:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


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==Stuff to delete==
==Stuff to delete==
Commented out, see [[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Pages for Deletion]].<!---
Commented out, see [[KHWiki:Pages for deletion]].<!---
*[[Template:maleficent2]] - Speculation that overestimates the actual unity of those villains. (Pete: "Hey, wanna some Heartless?" Villain: "LOL SURE") Some weren't even in contact with Pete.
*[[Template:maleficent2]] - Speculation that overestimates the actual unity of those villains. (Pete: "Hey, wanna some Heartless?" Villain: "LOL SURE") Some weren't even in contact with Pete.
*[[:Category:Fantasia]] - We shouldn't do categories based on indivdual movies, especially one who contributed little.
*[[:Category:Fantasia]] - We shouldn't do categories based on indivdual movies, especially one who contributed little.
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== Deletion ==
== Deletion ==
 
I've started a page to propose things for deletion, like templates, categories and actual pages if need be.  It can be found at [[KHWiki:Pages for deletion]], so feel free to start listing things or commenting on other entries.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 22:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I've started a page to propose things for deletion, like templates, categories and actual pages if need be.  It can be found at [[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Pages for Deletion]], so feel free to start listing things or commenting on other entries.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 22:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)


== Deleting copyright violations ==
== Deleting copyright violations ==
We've chosen a great subject to wiki about, but there's one drawback: copyright.  Pretty much everything on here is copyrighted by the people who made the game.  We already have a massive number of images with NO sourcing info whatsoever.  Copyright violations can easily get out of hand on a media-oriented wiki like this.  Here's what I propose we do, and what I will start doing if I hear no objections:
We've chosen a great subject to wiki about, but there's one drawback: copyright.  Pretty much everything on here is copyrighted by the people who made the game.  We already have a massive number of images with NO sourcing info whatsoever.  Copyright violations can easily get out of hand on a media-oriented wiki like this.  Here's what I propose we do, and what I will start doing if I hear no objections:


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== Images revisited ==
== Images revisited ==
I hate to start griping again, but here goes anyhow.
I hate to start griping again, but here goes anyhow.


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===Concept Art===
===Concept Art===
When higher quality game screenshots/sprites are available, would it be better to use them or concept art?  I'm personally of the opinion actual in-game components would be better.  I thought of this because of [[:Image:RIKU2.jpg]]; I have an image of Riku's model used in the game that I think would be better, but since that might set a precedent I figured I'd better get some feedback beforehand.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 05:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
When higher quality game screenshots/sprites are available, would it be better to use them or concept art?  I'm personally of the opinion actual in-game components would be better.  I thought of this because of [[:File:RIKU2.jpg]]; I have an image of Riku's model used in the game that I think would be better, but since that might set a precedent I figured I'd better get some feedback beforehand.  [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 05:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
*Well, you could include both as an image gallery.  Put the official artwork as the image at the top of the article.  Then, if you don't use the screenshot or so later in the article, put it on the bottom in an image gallery.--[[User:Dreyfus2006|Dreyfus]] 01:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
*Well, you could include both as an image gallery.  Put the official artwork as the image at the top of the article.  Then, if you don't use the screenshot or so later in the article, put it on the bottom in an image gallery.--[[User:Dreyfus2006|Dreyfus]] 01:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
**Ugh, didn't realize you had replied.  Well, we can't really have two pictures of a single game element in an article, since its copyrighted.  Only one is allowed under [[w:fair use|fair use]].  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 21:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
**Ugh, didn't realize you had replied.  Well, we can't really have two pictures of a single game element in an article, since its copyrighted.  Only one is allowed under [[wikia:fair use|fair use]].  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 21:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


== KHII: FM+ Additions ==
== KHII: FM+ Additions ==
Retrieved from http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/
Retrieved from http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/


KHII: Final Mix+ Extra Area Names
KHII: Final Mix+ Extra Area Names


Apostrophe of KHV has been using Action Replay to access areas that we haven’t previously known the names of. They were accessed through hidden savepoints that can only be accessed through cheat codes.
Apostrophe of KHV has been using Action Replay to access areas that we haven't previously known the names of. They were accessed through hidden savepoints that can only be accessed through cheat codes.


Station of Remembrance - Area where you fight Larxene and Lexaeus
Station of Remembrance - Area where you fight Larxene and Lexaeus
Station of Oblivion - Area where you fight Marluxia
Station of Oblivion - Area where you fight Marluxia
Destiny Island - Area where you fight Zexion
Destiny Island - Area where you fight Zexion
Memory’s Contortion - Area where you fight Xemnas for the first time
Memory's Contortion - Area where you fight Xemnas for the first time
World of Nothing - Area where you fight Roxas and Xemnas’ Final Form
World of Nothing - Area where you fight Roxas and Xemnas' Final Form
Gathering Place - Area where you fight Terra (Lingering Spirit / Enigmatic Soldier)
Gathering Place - Area where you fight Terra (Lingering Spirit / Enigmatic Soldier)
- - - - - (This is also where “The Gathering” and “Birth By Sleep” are set)
- - - - - (This is also where “The Gathering” and “Birth By Sleep” are set)


== Admin notes ==
== Admin notes ==
I've taken a couple steps that I'd like feedback on, since as admin actions they can't be simply reverted:
I've taken a couple steps that I'd like feedback on, since as admin actions they can't be simply reverted:


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== Final Fantasy Characters ==
== Final Fantasy Characters ==
 
It's almost sad, looking at Cloud Strife's page, all it sais is "Cloud is a character in kingdom hearts, from final fantasy vii." Why doesn't some one just "adopt" the pages from final fantasy wiki or regular Wikipedia, with permission. I would, but i don't remember how. Please add below, if you have any thoughts on the subject. -- Parad0x
It's almost sad, looking at Cloud Strife's page, all it sais is "Cloud is a character in kingdom hearts, from final fantasy vii." Why doesn't some one just "adopt" the pages from final fantasy wiki or regular wikipedia, with permision. I would, but i dont remeber how. Please add below, if you have any thoughts on the subject. -- Parad0x
*Well, it's still very much a growing wiki.  Ideally all content will be original eventually, but stuff can legally be copypasted if {{tname|wikipedia}} is added, however, adding original content would be far better.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 03:08, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
*Well, it's still very much a growing wiki.  Ideally all content will be original eventually, but stuff can legally be copypasted if {{tname|wikipedia}} is added, however, adding original content would be far better.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 03:08, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
**Speaking of which, how detailed should the "background" of the FF characters (eg: their original games). Like the [[Leon]] article, less than half of it is about his Kingdom Hearts version?[[User:SithPower|SithPower]] 14:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
**Speaking of which, how detailed should the "background" of the FF characters (e.g.: their original games). Like the [[Leon]] article, less than half of it is about his Kingdom Hearts version?[[User:SithPower|SithPower]] 14:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


== Ranked ==
== Ranked ==
 
We've been ranked #237 as of now in the [[wikia:wikis:List of Wikia wikis]], which lists the 250 biggest wikis (out of over 2000 wikis in Wikia).  Two months back, we had about 20 articles and were not much more than a start-up project.  Great going, guys!  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 22:42, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
We've been ranked #237 as of now in the [[w:c:wikis:List of Wikia wikis]], which lists the 250 biggest wikis (out of over 2000 wikis in Wikia).  Two months back, we had about 20 articles and were not much more than a start-up project.  Great going, guys!  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 22:42, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


== Naming conventions ==
== Naming conventions ==
Hey, just wanted to bring up a naming conventions issue, like with the Final Fantasy characters.  Specifically [[Squall]], which has been moved to [[Squall Leonheart]].  Wouldn't it make more sense to name him as "Leon", as he's called in game, instead of by what he's called in Final Fantasy games?  It seems like Kingdom Hearts info on him is far more relevant than Final Fantasy stuff.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 02:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey, just wanted to bring up a naming conventions issue, like with the Final Fantasy characters.  Specifically [[Squall]], which has been moved to [[Squall Leonheart]].  Wouldn't it make more sense to name him as "Leon", as he's called in game, instead of by what he's called in Final Fantasy games?  It seems like Kingdom Hearts info on him is far more relevant than Final Fantasy stuff.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 02:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
*I agree, I think...  Maybe the whole name is better, maybe not.  I mean, Cloud Strife sounds better to me than Cloud, but Squall Leonheart sounds worse than Leon...  I guess I'm neutral.--[[User:Dreyfus2006|Dreyfus]] 05:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
*I agree, I think...  Maybe the whole name is better, maybe not.  I mean, Cloud Strife sounds better to me than Cloud, but Squall Leonheart sounds worse than Leon...  I guess I'm neutral.--[[User:Dreyfus2006|Dreyfus]] 05:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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== First block ==
== First block ==
Our first real block: I've blocked {{user|Bacon}} for 24 hours, he's taken the disagreements over the fates of [[Larxene]], [[Marluxia]] and others killed in Chain of Memories to a disruptive level, consistently adding "death" headers (after being reverted after changing one to "loss" and being reverted) and vandalizing the [[Larxene]] article.  If there's a lot of opposition to it I'll unblock.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 05:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Our first real block: I've blocked {{user|Bacon}} for 24 hours, he's taken the disagreements over the fates of [[Larxene]], [[Marluxia]] and others killed in Chain of Memories to a disruptive level, consistently adding "death" headers (after being reverted after changing one to "loss" and being reverted) and vandalizing the [[Larxene]] article.  If there's a lot of opposition to it I'll unblock.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 05:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


== Sign up for the Daily Edit ==
== Sign up for the Daily Edit ==
Want to know what the news is with wikis and Wikia?  Sign up for the daily edit, a user-written newsletter, here:  [[Wikia:The Daily Edit/Delivery]].  '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 01:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Want to know what the news is with wikis and Wikia?  Sign up for the daily edit, a user-written newsletter, here:  [[Wikia:The Daily Edit/Delivery]].  '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 01:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


== Popular pages ==
== Popular pages ==
Has anyone noticed that the "most popular" pages on the new skin are just random articles?  I recently found out that sysops can program in what articles will show up; the idea being that we as a community decide which 5 articles we want to draw readers' attention to.  So what does everyone think we should put up there?
Has anyone noticed that the "most popular" pages on the new skin are just random articles?  I recently found out that sysops can program in what articles will show up; the idea being that we as a community decide which 5 articles we want to draw readers' attention to.  So what does everyone think we should put up there?


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== Gaming wiki chat this Sunday! ==
== Gaming wiki chat this Sunday! ==
Hi all,
Hi all,


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Please help to spread the word, and hope to see you there!
Please help to spread the word, and hope to see you there!


-[[w:User:PanSola|User:PanSola]] 16:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
-[[wikia:User:PanSola|User:PanSola]] 16:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


== Job List? ==
== Job List? ==
Hey fellow KH peoples. I've been working on Lostpedia for quite some time and have just discovered the KH Wiki. I'd love to contribute, but where is your job list? [[User:PkmnTrainerJ|PkmnTrainerJ]] 01:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Hey fellow KH peoples. I've been working on Lostpedia for quite some time and have just discovered the KH Wiki. I'd love to contribute, but where is your job list? [[User:PkmnTrainerJ|PkmnTrainerJ]] 01:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
==Help from your friendly neighbour==
==Help from your friendly neighbour==
Hi, I'm from the [http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Final Fantasy Wiki]. We've recently adopted the policy of '''Only FF Content Allowed''', and one of the moderators had the idea of transferring our KH content to the KH Wiki; thus, over the next few days (maybe even less) we'll be transferring some of the content from the FF Wiki to this Wiki. If you're okay with it, I think I'll even add in a few templates. Of course, we're only going to transfer the necessary content, that is, we're only going to transfer the content were needed. Cheers! [[User:Faethin|Faethin]] 22:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm from the [http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Final Fantasy Wiki]. We've recently adopted the policy of '''Only FF Content Allowed''', and one of the moderators had the idea of transferring our KH content to the KH Wiki; thus, over the next few days (maybe even less) we'll be transferring some of the content from the FF Wiki to this Wiki. If you're okay with it, I think I'll even add in a few templates. Of course, we're only going to transfer the necessary content, that is, we're only going to transfer the content were needed. Cheers! [[User:Faethin|Faethin]] 22:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)