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<!-- Please put your content under this line. Be sure to sign your edits with either your talk page template or four tildes ~~~~ -->{{MelodiousNature|time=23:07, October 10, 2009 (UTC)|text=Many of us at the IRC channel have started to see '''major issues''' in the KH section of IRC. People have been: bullying, racist, intimidating, rude, upsetting, annoying on purpose, spamming etc. Something needs to be done. | <!-- Please put your content under this line. Be sure to sign your edits with either your talk page template or four tildes ~~~~ -->{{MelodiousNature|time=23:07, October 10, 2009 (UTC)|text=Many of us at the IRC channel have started to see '''major issues''' in the KH section of IRC. People have been: bullying, racist, intimidating, rude, upsetting, annoying on purpose, spamming etc. Something needs to be done. | ||
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Hexed is usually on, Yermom is there and so is Gamer and I'm there on Friday and Saturday. I haven't heard/seen any '''major''' complaints about flammers, bullies, etc. the times that I've logged on. If you guys have a problem and no one's there to solve it, go to #wikia. They'll usually be there immediately. You have to think, what's the average age around here, 13-16? There will be plenty of immature insults being flung around. You can't really help it. But if Kryten and the other staff agree, be my guest. It wouldn't hurt to have a couple more ops online at different times to handle problems of this kind. -[[User:Azul81677|<font color="#4682B4">Azul</font>]] <sup><small>('''''[[User talk:Azul81677|talk]] ・[[Special:Contributions/Azul81677|contribs]]''''')</small></sup> 00:20, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | Hexed is usually on, Yermom is there and so is Gamer and I'm there on Friday and Saturday. I haven't heard/seen any '''major''' complaints about flammers, bullies, etc. the times that I've logged on. If you guys have a problem and no one's there to solve it, go to #wikia. They'll usually be there immediately. You have to think, what's the average age around here, 13-16? There will be plenty of immature insults being flung around. You can't really help it. But if Kryten and the other staff agree, be my guest. It wouldn't hurt to have a couple more ops online at different times to handle problems of this kind. -[[User:Azul81677|<font color="#4682B4">Azul</font>]] <sup><small>('''''[[User talk:Azul81677|talk]] ・[[Special:Contributions/Azul81677|contribs]]''''')</small></sup> 00:20, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
So, then, it's decided? Who will be the new ops?-- | So, then, it's decided? Who will be the new ops?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 00:36, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:I'm there <u>'''A LOT'''</u> of the time, so... >>;; Just a suggestion though. --[[User:Super Sword-chucks|<font color="A9ACB6">'''天下'''</font>]][[User Talk: Super Sword-chucks|<font color="#6F7285">'''無双'''</font>]][[User:Super Sword-chucks/Userpage+|<font color="black">'''！！'''</font>]] 00:38, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | :I'm there <u>'''A LOT'''</u> of the time, so... >>;; Just a suggestion though. --[[User:Super Sword-chucks|<font color="A9ACB6">'''天下'''</font>]][[User Talk: Super Sword-chucks|<font color="#6F7285">'''無双'''</font>]][[User:Super Sword-chucks/Userpage+|<font color="black">'''！！'''</font>]] 00:38, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Alot of the users who signed the petition are on the IRC alot as well. Also, is the Op(s) going to be selected by voting (similar to voting for admins/mods), or will they be selected by the staff?--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 01:19, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ::Alot of the users who signed the petition are on the IRC alot as well. Also, is the Op(s) going to be selected by voting (similar to voting for admins/mods), or will they be selected by the staff?--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 01:19, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
I think they should. Admins and mods are our superiors. It's only right they get to decided, even though some are not there most of the times. -- | I think they should. Admins and mods are our superiors. It's only right they get to decided, even though some are not there most of the times. --{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 01:23, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
Don't ask for help in #wikia, they can't do anything, unless Azul gives people usually in #wikia op privileges here. --<span style="font-family:GoudyHandtooled BT">[[User:Gamer2127|<font color="#CC0000">Gamer</font>]][[User talk:Gamer2127|<font color="#4169E1">2127</font>]]</span> 01:44, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | Don't ask for help in #wikia, they can't do anything, unless Azul gives people usually in #wikia op privileges here. --<span style="font-family:GoudyHandtooled BT">[[User:Gamer2127|<font color="#CC0000">Gamer</font>]][[User talk:Gamer2127|<font color="#4169E1">2127</font>]]</span> 01:44, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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:::True true. I also say that anyone who wants to be an OP should get the place, so as long as he or she stays true to their word. No voting, please. And yea, I've been around long enough to see who the trouble makers are and who aren't on the IRC. And, sure admins and mods may be your superiors, but they're originally just like us and move around the site like us: regulars. --[[User:Super Sword-chucks|<font color="A9ACB6">'''天下'''</font>]][[User Talk: Super Sword-chucks|<font color="#6F7285">'''無双'''</font>]][[User:Super Sword-chucks/Userpage+|<font color="black">'''！！'''</font>]] 02:32, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | :::True true. I also say that anyone who wants to be an OP should get the place, so as long as he or she stays true to their word. No voting, please. And yea, I've been around long enough to see who the trouble makers are and who aren't on the IRC. And, sure admins and mods may be your superiors, but they're originally just like us and move around the site like us: regulars. --[[User:Super Sword-chucks|<font color="A9ACB6">'''天下'''</font>]][[User Talk: Super Sword-chucks|<font color="#6F7285">'''無双'''</font>]][[User:Super Sword-chucks/Userpage+|<font color="black">'''！！'''</font>]] 02:32, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
But they call the shots. They have more previlages than normal users.-- | But they call the shots. They have more previlages than normal users.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:39, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Sure they have more privileges, but in all seriousness, if you take that away, they're nothing more or less than us. It's only fair they pitch in opinions rather than use their powers and do whatever they want.--[[User:Super Sword-chucks|<font color="A9ACB6">'''天下'''</font>]][[User Talk: Super Sword-chucks|<font color="#6F7285">'''無双'''</font>]][[User:Super Sword-chucks/Userpage+|<font color="black">'''！！'''</font>]] 02:50, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | :Sure they have more privileges, but in all seriousness, if you take that away, they're nothing more or less than us. It's only fair they pitch in opinions rather than use their powers and do whatever they want.--[[User:Super Sword-chucks|<font color="A9ACB6">'''天下'''</font>]][[User Talk: Super Sword-chucks|<font color="#6F7285">'''無双'''</font>]][[User:Super Sword-chucks/Userpage+|<font color="black">'''！！'''</font>]] 02:50, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Direct quotes from [[ | :Direct quotes from [[KHWiki:Administrators]]: | ||
:"''Administrators are not content judges, and in that avenue, are equal to other editors.''"<br>"''Administrators are also not owners of the wiki; all editors have equal input in decisions." | :"''Administrators are not content judges, and in that avenue, are equal to other editors.''"<br>"''Administrators are also not owners of the wiki; all editors have equal input in decisions." | ||
:And here is a direct quote from [[ | :And here is a direct quote from [[KHWiki:Staff]] about moderators: | ||
:"''Though they are not more important than any other user...''" | :"''Though they are not more important than any other user...''" | ||
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true but ssc is right every admin or mod started out like us regular users Firaga44 02:44, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | true but ssc is right every admin or mod started out like us regular users Firaga44 02:44, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
You guys believe what you want to believe, and I'll do the same...-- | You guys believe what you want to believe, and I'll do the same...--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:00, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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1. Admins in IRC obviously don't have to be staff here. If there is someone(s) in IRC often who you guys think would do a '''fair''' job of keeping an eye on the channel, suggest them here. I beseech you, please think carefully about this...don't pick someone because they're your friend, or they "seem" nice. Think about people on the channel who act in a responsible manner and you think would be capable of watching and handling these things. Adminning (is that a word now?) can be a pretty tough job at times. (And likewise, if you get picked and do not feel you can handle it, please let us know. We don't want to pressure you into doing something you do not want to.) | 1. Admins in IRC obviously don't have to be staff here. If there is someone(s) in IRC often who you guys think would do a '''fair''' job of keeping an eye on the channel, suggest them here. I beseech you, please think carefully about this...don't pick someone because they're your friend, or they "seem" nice. Think about people on the channel who act in a responsible manner and you think would be capable of watching and handling these things. Adminning (is that a word now?) can be a pretty tough job at times. (And likewise, if you get picked and do not feel you can handle it, please let us know. We don't want to pressure you into doing something you do not want to.) | ||
2. As we can't be there all the time, if someone is being truly | 2. As we can't be there all the time, if someone is being truly harassing, threatening, etc., record it some how. Make screen caps, copy and paste the text as suggested above, or any other means you can think of. If the issue is especially serious, let the Wikia IRC staff know right away and show them what you've got; please let us know as well so we can help them take means to stop it. | ||
In addition, I want to say as an admin I do my best to be fair and helpful, as do the other staffers around here. But I am human and I do make mistakes and have bad days and so on, again, as do the other staffers. I know we have a few folks here who do butt heads from time to time since they're very passionate about ''Kingdom Hearts'', and want to make this wiki the best it can be. We certainly don't expect everyone to hold hands and sing happy songs of Atlantica, but if someone here feels like they are being especially singled out for poor treatment by an individual, even if they are an admin, please let someone know. And if you ever think I've acted poorly towards you, please let me know. [[User:BebopKate|<span style="color:indigo;">'''Bebop'''</span>]][[User talk:BebopKate|<span style="color:plum;">'''Kate'''</span>]] 06:06, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | In addition, I want to say as an admin I do my best to be fair and helpful, as do the other staffers around here. But I am human and I do make mistakes and have bad days and so on, again, as do the other staffers. I know we have a few folks here who do butt heads from time to time since they're very passionate about ''Kingdom Hearts'', and want to make this wiki the best it can be. We certainly don't expect everyone to hold hands and sing happy songs of Atlantica, but if someone here feels like they are being especially singled out for poor treatment by an individual, even if they are an admin, please let someone know. And if you ever think I've acted poorly towards you, please let me know. [[User:BebopKate|<span style="color:indigo;">'''Bebop'''</span>]][[User talk:BebopKate|<span style="color:plum;">'''Kate'''</span>]] 06:06, October 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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''' | '''Number XXI =''' | ||
*MelodiousNature | *MelodiousNature | ||
*EternalNothingnessXIII | *EternalNothingnessXIII | ||
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{{EO|time=08:38, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|talktext=EDIT : Yeah. I believe the poll was a bad idea. It wasn't intended as the competition thing. It was supposed to be a more organized way then a list of users. Azul makes good judgments. I'd say wait until November for him to pick.}} | {{EO|time=08:38, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|talktext=EDIT : Yeah. I believe the poll was a bad idea. It wasn't intended as the competition thing. It was supposed to be a more organized way then a list of users. Azul makes good judgments. I'd say wait until November for him to pick.}} | ||
{{Super Sword-chucks|time=21:38, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|talktext=''賛成。'' I say the poll was a pretty darn stupid idea; it got us all voting for our friends when we were '''ALL''' potential in playing a part as Op on the IRC channel. I agree with the others; wait for Azul to choose the new OPs.}} | {{Super Sword-chucks|time=21:38, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|talktext=''賛成。'' I say the poll was a pretty darn stupid idea; it got us all voting for our friends when we were '''ALL''' potential in playing a part as Op on the IRC channel. I agree with the others; wait for Azul to choose the new OPs.}} | ||
So are the Ops been revealed yet? | |||
{{Xion4ever|time=21:09, October 19, 2009 (UTC)|text= Yes, they are: Melodious Nature, Super Sword-chucks, and myself [Xion4ever].}} | |||
regardless of my temporary banning, I'm a still a bit ticked off that no one even voted for me. I'm on the irc pretty often, and everytime some punk logs on and starts messing with my friends, I'm. The first one to defend them! I've probably done the most unsuccessful "/kick" commands of anyone on this wiki, and it wasalways to defend my friends, unlike some people who I know for a FACT abuse their power! I've also gone through themoost emotional turmoil of ANYONE (most likely) and I'm just possed that NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE! So there we are. I'm done...... | |||
Thanks for listen'n [[User:Number XXI|Number XXI]] 13:52, October 24, 2009 (UTC) | |||
{{MelodiousNature|time=15:55, October 24, 2009 (UTC)|text=I'm sorry you feel you were "neglected" but you must consider that: | |||
*You made statements to multiple users stating you were leaving KHWiki and IRC. One example was to [[User_talk:Rocker7898#Im_leaving....|User_Talk:Rocker7898]] which you stated: ''"i have to leave the wiki.... forever..... this isnt a joke, I swear..... spread the news, okay?"''. | |||
*You followed with inactivity to both KHWikia from September 1 2009 to September 21 2009 | |||
(20 Days) and inactivity to the IRC Channel for much much longer. Our estimation is 1-2 Months. | |||
*You returned with a false name: '''Pumpkinhead''', of which people did not know. As people did not recognize you, you weren't considered a potential candidate. | |||
*You returned to the IRC Channel, once every two weeks and were only on for aprox. 2 hours. The Ops that were appointed would appear every day or 5-6 times a week, which was what we required for the abuse on IRC to be "handled". | |||
*Finally, during you're return you have Spammed on the IRC and wanted us to kick/ban you. Immaturity was a very essential element that we were looking out for and by doing so, you did not seem to be capable of being an Op. | |||
I truly am sorry, and I know you didn't leave purposely but... there are 4 more reasons than that one alone. | |||
'''Now's the time to prove us that you could become a potential Operator, next time (if needed) and this goes for everyone!''' | |||
Take Care and Sorry for having to reveal this to you.}} | |||