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I think (1) is the best choice, based on the pros and cons I've explained. If anyone has more pros or cons to add, please do. Whatever the community decides, we'll go with, but I want the voters to help make the fixes, and not just leave it to Neumannz and me.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 23:17, May 9, 2010 (UTC) | I think (1) is the best choice, based on the pros and cons I've explained. If anyone has more pros or cons to add, please do. Whatever the community decides, we'll go with, but I want the voters to help make the fixes, and not just leave it to Neumannz and me.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 23:17, May 9, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::I'm basically against anything with the "at" in it. I understand it is grammatically sound, but I just hate how awkward it sounds. Then again, what does my viewpoint really matter, anyways? - | ::I'm basically against anything with the "at" in it. I understand it is grammatically sound, but I just hate how awkward it sounds. Then again, what does my viewpoint really matter, anyways? - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 23:49, May 9, 2010 (UTC) | ||
I say that we should use option 2, but in the case of worlds like Pride Lands, we insert "the" in between the "in" and "pride lands", which would turn out like "It is one of the bosses fought in the Pride Lands", or "It is one of the bosses fought in Hollow Bastion". {{KKDSig|1}} | I say that we should use option 2, but in the case of worlds like Pride Lands, we insert "the" in between the "in" and "pride lands", which would turn out like "It is one of the bosses fought in the Pride Lands", or "It is one of the bosses fought in Hollow Bastion". {{KKDSig|1}} | ||
::I'm not sure I understand the criteria for "Pride Lands". It's a world-name just like Hollow Bastion, even though it sounds like a improper noun.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 00:30, May 10, 2010 (UTC) | ::I'm not sure I understand the criteria for "Pride Lands". It's a world-name just like Hollow Bastion, even though it sounds like a improper noun.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 00:30, May 10, 2010 (UTC) | ||
I do not understand why we do not use the format that we are currently using, but change "at" when it needs to be changed grammatically. I think that most editors know when "at" or "in" will be more proper. However, if we ''have'' to select one of the above, I prefer our current format. However, I ''much'' prefer a more flexible format, as I have already stated. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 01:35, May 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
Okay, wait, I'm not sure I understand what's going on here. Is this about stating the above topic in one specific manner and ''only'' one, or is this part of some other issue, like a template? {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 02:56, May 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I'm not entirely clear about the issue between using "at" and "in". (This is a problem I have with other pages as well.) It seems to me that "at" is most appropriate when dealing with landmarks (e.g. "at the Palace", "at the Haunted Mansion", "at the Clock Tower"), while "in" should be used with respect to, well, locations that you can "be in", including worlds (e.g. "in Wonderland", "in Christmas Town", "in the Underground Passage"). It seems that "at" is being used a little indiscriminately on the wiki. (Also, "on" needs to be used for, say, transportation, platforms, or the like [e.g. "on the Black Pearl", "on the Solar Sailor"].) | |||
:As for the question at hand, I think the line should approximately say "It is one of the bosses/a boss found/located [insert appropriate preposition] Y." Possibly include specific location "W in Y". Any more detail is redundant, given the infobox. I don't think including "W" is much of a problem, especially for enemies such as Rock Titan or Iron Prisoner, who have no story section. --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 03:35, May 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::So, "It is a boss fought at/in/on the W in Y"?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 06:18, May 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Yeah, pretty much. Though if you still have a problem with "fought", you can try a more general term instead. --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 06:41, May 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Well, "encountered" is really the only substitute I can think of, and it still has the same "possible inaccuracy". It's acceptable, though, if no one has any problems.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 07:54, May 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::What particular inaccuracies are you thinking of? --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 11:11, May 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::It could be argued for many of the bosses that they aren't necessarily "fought", either because the boss is optional, or because it's something like the Mushroom XIII. It's a very technical discrepancy, and kind of necessary if we use the "at W in Y" format.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:02, May 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Well, in the case of optional bosses (not including Coliseum/Arena bosses, they would be covered by the "W in Y") you could say "It is an optional boss fought at W in Y". As for Mushroom XIII, I think they are perhaps unique enough encounters to be an exception. Although they've been given a "KH2FM+ bosses" categorization, I wouldn't call them that. --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 18:51, May 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::It's barely even a discrepancy, and it sounds better to just use "fought" with no qualifiers.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 20:01, May 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||