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::::Well, what about the [[Queen Bee]]? That one is openly referred to as a "she" in the flavor text.--[[User:HopelessNobody|HopelessNobody]] ([[User talk:HopelessNobody|talk]]) 20:43, 19 April 2020 (UTC) | ::::Well, what about the [[Queen Bee]]? That one is openly referred to as a "she" in the flavor text.--[[User:HopelessNobody|HopelessNobody]] ([[User talk:HopelessNobody|talk]]) 20:43, 19 April 2020 (UTC) | ||
:::::There are some Heartless in KHUX who use he/she in descriptions, like Queen Bee, Shiva, or Ifrit. However, this is most likely just from translation, as I believe Japanese doesn't use gendered pronouns. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 20:46, 19 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
::::::Looking at Ifrit's journal entry on its page, it seems it's referred to as "it" (unless there is another journal entry for it in a different quest). Although your point about the translation still stands.--[[User:HopelessNobody|HopelessNobody]] ([[User talk:HopelessNobody|talk]]) 20:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::::::There is another description from a later quest. "This fiery foe resets your boosts, unleashes critical attacks that lower your strength, absorbs Power-based damage, and counters when '''his''' hit count reaches 0!" {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 20:57, 19 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
==Purebloods== | |||
I know Emblems, by their very nature of being hearts forcibly surrounded by darkness, make more Emblems when they consume hearts. | |||
However, don't Purebloods technically do the same thing? | |||
Ansem's Report 3: | |||
''"The shadows that crawl beneath the castle... Are they the people who lost their hearts, or incarnations of darkness? Or something entirely beyond my imagination?'''<br> | |||
''All my knowledge has provided no answer. One thing I am sure of is that they are entirely devoid of emotion. Perhaps further study will unlock the mysteries of the heart.'''<br> | |||
''Fortunately, there is no shortage of test samples.'' '''''They are multiplying underground even as I write this report.''''' ''They still need a name. Those who lack hearts... I will call them the Heartless."'' | |||
And this entry takes place before the first Emblems were created. | |||
Can we add this to the page if it's correct? --[[User:Mikoto|Mikoto]] ([[User talk:Mikoto|talk]]) 06:12, 13 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
==Dark Servants and other silhouttes== | |||
Something that's kinda bugging me is that why we don't have any pages for the Dark Servants? (the little shadow orbs the Dark Thorn and the Hydra summons in kh 2) as well, would the "afterimages" that Xehanort and Vanitas uses as attacks in KH3 kinda counts as heartless of the pureblood type or are they different all together? Just asking. | |||
--[[User:LuisArturo|talk]] 09:01 Oct 2023 (UTC) | |||
:A few reasons. The first is that they aren't actual enemies (no HP bar, no stats of any kind). They also aren't mentioned as their own entities (no journal entry, no Ultimania info, no names outside of attack titles), and the information that we ''do'' have essentially amounts to "dark orb attack", so there isn't enough to warrant a separate article or even a section. As per the afterimages, it's exactly that: an afterimage, an avatar, a mirage. They may be a manifestation of dark power, but they wouldn't count as Heartless themselves. —<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:110%>[[User:Aid1043|<span style="color:#9932CC">Aid</span>]][[User talk:Aid1043|<span style="color:#9932CC">1043</span>]]</span> 03:38, 17 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Union X confuses me == | |||
Does anybody know why emblem heartless appear in this game when they were supposedly created MUCH later? {{unsigned|24.214.45.254}} | |||
: Some of it can be explained by the Disney worlds being constructions of the Book of Prophecies (or data based on the book), which has knowledge of the future, including emblem Heartless. But that explanation doesn't cover everything. Nomura discussed this in an inverview about ''Dark Road'', which also features emblem Heartless way earlier than expected: | |||
::'''Interviewer''': "In Dark Road, several of the Emblem Heartless make an appearance. But we thought that they would only appear later in the series." | |||
::'''Nomura''': "The reason for their appearance in these past worlds will be explained in Missing-Link." | |||
:So there's allegedly a reason, but right now we don't have a clear answer. —<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:110%>[[User:Aid1043|<span style="color:#9932CC">Aid</span>]][[User talk:Aid1043|<span style="color:#9932CC">1043</span>]]</span> 03:13, 20 April 2024 (UTC) | |||