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== Xehanort render and stats == | == Xehanort render and stats == | ||
[[ | [[File:Terra-Xehanort KHBBS.png|250px]] Enjoy :D [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 18:19, April 1, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Kyaa! Cool!-- | Kyaa! Cool!--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:20, April 1, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Of interest: the name used is "Terra-Xehanort".[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 22:24, April 1, 2010 (UTC) | :Of interest: the name used is "Terra-Xehanort".[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 22:24, April 1, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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How do we update/change this article now that ''KH3D'' is beginning to contradict what was established as canon in the earlier games? | How do we update/change this article now that ''KH3D'' is beginning to contradict what was established as canon in the earlier games? | ||
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File: | File:My Name is Ansem 02 KH3D.png|Braig's heart is unlocked by Xehanort. | ||
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*What's the contradiction? | *What's the contradiction? | ||
*The only one we're sure Xehanort stabbed was Braig, right? (What is it Braig said to him again?) --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 23:01, 22 September 2011 (UTC) | *The only one we're sure Xehanort stabbed was Braig, right? (What is it Braig said to him again?) --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 23:01, 22 September 2011 (UTC) | ||
: | {{EO|time=23:15, 22 September 2011 (UTC)|text=The contradiction is that everything we said on here previously is that the apprentices lost their hearts during their repeated experiments; it is never specified how, though this ''does'' give us a time period as to when Xehanort does this to Braig. | ||
What you say is true, Braig is the only one actually ''seen'' stabbed... But Ienzo and Even aren't just taking a nap. What Braig supposedly says to Xehanort and the scene in general can be seen with English subtitles [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t7MlY7syKfg here]. | |||
EDIT (23:15, 22 September 2011 (UTC): See the following image: | |||
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File:My Name is Ansem 01 KH3D.png|Even and Ienzo in the TGS trailer after their hearts are unlocked by Xehanort. | |||
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If you look closely at the image, you see ripples of darkness flowing off them, and if you watch the trailer, you notice it in greater detail, as well as the fact that they are both fading. It's pretty obvious that Xehanort did this to them, as well as Braig. | |||
EDIT: (23:18, 22 September 2011 (UTC): This image below shows what Braig states to Xehanort (either that or it's Yen Sid's narration; I can't understand an inkling of Japanese): | |||
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File:My Name is Ansem 03 KH3D.png|Xehanort summons Master Xehanort's Keyblade before Braig. | |||
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You don't know that what happened here wasn't caused by the disastrous results of one of their experiments. Did something happen that caused Even and Ienzo to be overcome by darkness and Xehanort to remember how to summon his Keyblade and to go berserk? Even and Ienzo are halfway across the room from him, and I doubt he summoned the Keyblade, stabbed them, dismissed the Keyblade, dashed across the room, summoned it again, and then rushed Braig and stabbed ''him''. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 23:30, 22 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:'''''How in the blistering hell do you know this scene isn't from the <big>present</big> time?''''' What part of "responsible editing" doesn't make sense?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:47, 23 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::For all the bitching about how this possibly breaks canon, it doesn't. There's the possibility that the Reports aren't entirely factual. [[User:Hexedmagica|Hexed]] 02:51, 23 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
Oh my God, Kryten. It's common sense that this scene is from the past. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 07:51, 23 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::How about the last sentence in the [http://sqex.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/kh3d-famitsu-details/ summarized interview with Nomura] regarding the story in the last Famitsu? '''"The opening of this title will be in Xehanort’s point of view. Additionally, there will be a surprise unlike anything seen before in the last scene."''' I've got the feeling that this "surprise" is very important and any speculation at this point could be contradictory or just plain false. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 09:04, 23 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Erry: For all we know, Xehanort's come back and immediately decides he wants them all to be Nobodies again. ''We don't know what the context of this scene is''. It's...''acceptable''...to post what we can intuit in the "other appearances" section, but once you guys start building speculation based on contextless trailer scenes into the material that we are claiming is confirmed and canon...you're going off the gotdamn deep end.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:05, 23 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
#Ienzo is a kid in this picture. | |||
#IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE'RE NOT GUESSING. ALL WE KNOW IS THAT THIS (PROBABLY) HAPPENED AT SOME POINT. More likely than not it was back when they lost their hearts, because of what's going on in the scene and what Braig is saying, BUT STILL. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 14:44, 23 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
Again, common sense. Why he would come back when NONE OF THEM are even shown to be back? Only one confirmed to be back is Xehanort, thus it is common sense that this was in the past. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 15:38, 23 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:BUT STILL. This will undoubtedly turn out to have some complication, so let's keep that in mind and not take this at face value. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 15:49, 23 September 2011 (UTC) | |||