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{{Venkix|text= So like, I was on KH-VIDS.NET and I saw FAN ART of what axel and saix look like. Just wanted to show you guys. If there is any point to this....[[File:File.jpeg]]}}
{{Venkix|text= So like, I was on KH-VIDS.NET and I saw FAN ART of what axel and saix look like. Just wanted to show you guys. If there is any point to this....<!--[[File:File.jpeg]]-->}}


{{Template:ST|time=17:19, December 21, 2009 (UTC)|text=This is fanart based on the description of Lea and Saïx's Whole Being provided by KHInsider.com}}
{{Template:ST|time=17:19, December 21, 2009 (UTC)|text=This is fanart based on the description of Lea and Saïx's Whole Being provided by KHInsider.com}}
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{{Morghman|Has anyone else noticed how Isa and Riku kinda look like eachother. Besides the obvious differences, their faces kinda look similar, and notice how Isa's zipper on his jumpsuit stops a few inches before his hip, if I recall Riku's KHII zipper does the same.}}
{{Morghman|Has anyone else noticed how Isa and Riku kinda look like eachother. Besides the obvious differences, their faces kinda look similar, and notice how Isa's zipper on his jumpsuit stops a few inches before his hip, if I recall Riku's KHII zipper does the same.}}


{{Maggosh|text=[[Image:Riku KHII.png|200px]]
{{Maggosh|text=[[File:Riku KHII.png|200px]]
Sorry, no dice.}}
Sorry, no dice.}}


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:::::The ''entire point'' of the Org is to have other people's bodies with Xehanort's heart. This is what had happened in the original Organization for Saix and Xigbar, and is why they had yellow eyes. Isa is, by definition, a person that has Isa's body and Isa's heart, so it wouldn't make any sense for it to be Isa again -- Saix and Xigbar are the only confirmed members of the original organization to be successful "vessels".
:::::The ''entire point'' of the Org is to have other people's bodies with Xehanort's heart. This is what had happened in the original Organization for Saix and Xigbar, and is why they had yellow eyes. Isa is, by definition, a person that has Isa's body and Isa's heart, so it wouldn't make any sense for it to be Isa again -- Saix and Xigbar are the only confirmed members of the original organization to be successful "vessels".
:::::The line that mentions Isa says "To be a member of the true Organization XIII, Isa was collected." That doesn't preclude that he was collected before the others woke up, then ''turned back into Saix''.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:23, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
:::::The line that mentions Isa says "To be a member of the true Organization XIII, Isa was collected." That doesn't preclude that he was collected before the others woke up, then ''turned back into Saix''.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:23, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
::::::Currently, the Braig article references him being a vessel of Xehanort in the Story and Personality sections. It also notes that Braig's eyes turned yellow by the end of BBS, when he faced Terra, Ventus and Aqua at the Keyblade Graveyard. And considering that Sora was influenced when he hosted Ventus' heart and that Terra's heart is presumably still lurking there in Terra-Xehanort somewhere, it's very possible that whole people with their own hearts can still take on a piece of Xehanort's heart and become a whole vessel. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 21:30, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Braig (and presumably Isa) aren't Seekers of Darkness, Xigbar (and presumably Saix) are Seekers of Darkness instead (because of time travel), then in KH3, wouldn't we have to defeat all 13 Seekers of Darkness ''plus'' Braig and Isa to truly get rid of Xehanort? Since Braig and Isa both still have pieces of Xehanort inside of them as well (telling by Braigs yellow eyes and pointy ears), then Xehanort wouldn't truly be gone until we defeat Braig and Isa as well, right? Unless Braig and Isa ''are'' Seekers of Darkness of course (Which I think they could very well be since Young Xehanort took Isa in the 2.5 secret ending). --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 22:10, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
:Huh? I don't think you phrased that properly. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 04:04, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Braig was the one we saw in the 2.5 secret ending correct? And Xigbar was the one seen in DDD? I'm just thinking that ''if'' Braig and Isa are not Seekers of Darkness and it's Xigbar and Saix instead, then wouldn't we have to defeat Braig and Isa as well, even if they're not Seekers of Darkness? They have pieces of Xehanort inside of themselves as well, so Xehanort wouldn't truly be gone for good if we don't defeat them as well, right? --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 06:04, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
:Ah, yes. Yes, that is correct. Thank you for rephrasing that. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 19:51, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
::No problem. It would be interesting if Braig and Isa ended up not being Seekers of Darkness. Xehanort could have them hiding the entire time and not let Sora and the others know about them, and once they defeat all the Seekers of Darkness, Xehanort unveils Braig and Isa. They probably are Seekers of Darkness though, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 22:48, 24 February 2016 (UTC)