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{{ShardofTruth|time=21:11, 2 October 2011 (UTC)|talk=I think all your points are valid SidVI but just making suggestions isn't enough on a wiki in a long run. Get involved, help creating a better front page (I think Erry is doing the main work right now), find the quotes you liked to see in the user boxes and make the walkthroughs more professional. We are all volunteers and are working on different things all the time. I can name a dozen projects I'd like to complete, but I just don't have enough time. So get started and make a draft;-)}} | {{ShardofTruth|time=21:11, 2 October 2011 (UTC)|talk=I think all your points are valid SidVI but just making suggestions isn't enough on a wiki in a long run. Get involved, help creating a better front page (I think Erry is doing the main work right now), find the quotes you liked to see in the user boxes and make the walkthroughs more professional. We are all volunteers and are working on different things all the time. I can name a dozen projects I'd like to complete, but I just don't have enough time. So get started and make a draft;-)}} | ||
{{Asif|sho=Okay... | |||
#I'm pretty sure we voted previously that we'd host a single wiki-related walkthrough for each game. When it came time to discuss the specifics, like how different users' strategies could be implemented and how the walkthroughs would be organized, no one could really agree. We should bring that up and come up with some form that everyone can agree with. I am all for hosting user-related walkthroughs on another site as well, if that's what the community wants. | |||
#I really don't have the coding knowledge that is necessary to make an entirely new home page, but if anybody asks I can give feedback. I'll try to help out anyway I can. | |||
#Of all the issues we could be dealing with right now, userboxes are a low priority. The policy is that the mainspace always comes before the userspace, and userboxes fall strictly into the latter category. They shouldn't be of much concern. | |||
Sorry I'm missing the roundtable; I have too much real-life work.}} | |||
{{KrytenKoro|ENX, I've said this before, but I do most of my KHWiki edits while at work, where I ''DON'T HAVE THE TIME AND ABILITY TO CORRECT ALL THE LINKS''. I have a few minutes to mark the misnamed images, and then I have to ''get back to work''. Also, I usually do add reasoning to the betterpics, it just doesn't display because I have no idea what the parameter name is. | |||
Walkthrough space: If people were really spending enough time on the various walkthroughs for them to be more than just stubs that warrant deletion, then we wouldn't be having such a huge problem getting the walkthrough space started. TNE's ReCoM walkthrough is probably the only one that actually gets to the end of its game. | |||
Also, if people want to get the walkthrough space started, we need to know ''what people want it to look like''. Or, someone needs to just start typing one, so other people can comment on it. I've outlined the exact steps that need to be done tons of times, but I simply don't have the time to start this myself, ''and I need other editors to step in and give input''.}} | |||
{{SidTalk|time=05:59, 3 October 2011 (UTC)|Roxas= @LapisScarab: (Even though the userbox thing is largely unimportant) Someone should de-categorize the userboxes and delete the categories, they're useless, and as for the walkthrough space, you'll need to have someone do Chain of Memories, Days and Re:Coded (arguably the three least popular games). Re:Chain is working out, but how about if someone wanted to look for a Chain guide? Then there is Kingdom Hearts II, I think someone is working on that. For the main page, I'll look at it, but I'm unsure if I can make any changes. I'm only giving out suggestions.}} | |||
{{17m|text= I can help with Re:coded. [[User:Erry/Re:coded Walkthrough|And Erry already made a Re:coded walkthrough.]]}} | |||
{{EO|time=20:49, 3 October 2011 (UTC)|talktext=Back when this was nothing more than an idea, Kryten, I believe I told you I was starting [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Walkthrough|this]] (I've linked you to it/mentioned it to you and others tons of times). I know it's not "finished" (If we're deleting it in the end, what's the point?), but the community is more than welcome to glance through what I HAVE completed and make its comments. If we deem the guide "good enough," I see no reason why we can't just do some formatting changes (once we move the original version off-Wiki) to be in line with the Wiki-wide guide everyone seems to have started on ''Kingdom Hearts'' (this was intended to be a rough draft of any ''real'' Wiki-walkthroughs we made in the end, remember). | |||
I have quite a passion for walkthrough-writing, so once we establish everything 100%, I'd be more than willing to contribute full sections of the walkthroughs/small portions such as strategies to them for any of the games (''BBS'' is my favorite, though, so I'd really like to be closely involved with that one...). I just need to be alerted/kept up to speed on the current state of the walkthroughs and what needs to be done for them. | |||
I'll say it once and I'll say it again: my concern for this is the conflicting views of the various editors who will wish to contribute and the redundancy to articles/sections of articles we have in mainspace (which should not be ignored as we enthusiastically become the new BradyGames or GameFAQs).}} | |||
{{LapisScarab|time=21:43, 3 October 2011 (UTC)|text=The user walkthroughs are not being deleted, nor are they being moved off Wiki. That was clarified at the roundtable meeting yesterday (by the by, there is a make-up meeting this coming Saturday; go to it). Any further comments about the Walkthrough space should probably be put on one of the ''several'' forums specifically about it. }} | |||
{{KrytenKoro|LS: ''Why'' are they not being merged into the official walkthroughs? I doubt we even have multiples for individual games, and certainly not of good enough quality to not just treat them as stubs. | |||
We've allowed people to make walkthroughs in their userspace since our founding, and as I've said before, not a single one was ever ''finished''. It's a lost cause. It doesn't make sense to argue "they allow us to represent other takes on the game", since all they are is fragments of a train of thought. I don't get why people are so attached to them; even after merging them in, I highly doubt there are any contradicting methods for a boss or world that we'll have to choose between.}} | |||
{{Asif|sho=Okay... I really like ENX's walkthrough. Like, ''really'' like it. It organizes everything the way I wanted- per game, per character, per world- and contains just about all the information you could possibly need to play ''Birth by Sleep''. If anything, my only complaint is that the "Terra/Aqua/Ventus Overview" pages are redundant to what is on the "Game Basics" page (or at least that's what I'm guessing, seeing as how none of them were actually made). I'd also like the Table of Contents to be more prominent, and the "About the Author" section won't be necessary on a universal walkthrough. Oh, and I'd appreciate it aesthetically if the world icons were arranged in rows, rather than one big column that is less user-friendly. And the colored text from the Destiny Islands page should be utilized as well, along with a specific color key for enemy templates (Purple= Heartless, Yellow= Somebody, etc.). That's all. Here's to making a walkthrough where we don't, as a friend of mine once said, just "throw whatever trash we think of on the page and call it a day".}} | |||
{{SidTalk|time=08:57, 4 October 2011 (UTC)|Axel= I agree with Asif. ENX has really done a good job with his BBS walkthrough, and we should use that method to write the walkthroughs. Organize it in the way ENX did, with all of the additions Asif mentioned, and use boss templates for each boss/important battle. In regards with the "Terra/Ventus/Aqua Overview", it should stay, and there the walkthrough writer can discuss the advantages and disadvantages each character has. In fact, if it is necessary, this should be the norm with games that let you play with multiple characters, like Birth by Sleep. One more thing, who will do Chain of Memories (Re:Chain has been organized, so we need the original). }} | |||
{{17m|text=Same here, ENX's walkthrough is beautiful I love it. As for CoM I can probably help if I have the spare time to play the game (there are tons of assignments and tests lately, urgh.)}} | |||