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Is it all right if I upload an image of this keyblade? | Is it all right if I upload an image of this keyblade? | ||
Yes, just as long as it isn't fan made and it's a good, clear image.-- | Yes, just as long as it isn't fan made and it's a good, clear image.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:37, November 23, 2009 (UTC) | ||
Okay, I'm going to upload this one. Is it okay?--[[User:LegoAlchemist|LegoAlchemist]] 23:29, December 12, 2009 (UTC) | Okay, I'm going to upload this one. Is it okay?--[[User:LegoAlchemist|LegoAlchemist]] 23:29, December 12, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Even if we get the sentiments keyblade, I don't see why we would need a page split, after all, what difference (other than color) is there between the two? I mean, the one is based on the other, Roxas' oathkeeper is a different shade of silver than Sora's but that's in the trivia section, not another article for both.[[Special:Contributions/65.184.80.86|65.184.80.86]] 11:12, August 13, 2010 (UTC) | Even if we get the sentiments keyblade, I don't see why we would need a page split, after all, what difference (other than color) is there between the two? I mean, the one is based on the other, Roxas' oathkeeper is a different shade of silver than Sora's but that's in the trivia section, not another article for both.[[Special:Contributions/65.184.80.86|65.184.80.86]] 11:12, August 13, 2010 (UTC) | ||
{{ST|text=Hooray, it's monochrome. I win!}} | {{ST|text=Hooray, it's monochrome. I win!}} | ||
::Dammit, Nomura![[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 05:11, September 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::{{RN867|time=1:14am|ven= lol but nomura did say he would use "his" keyblade :P}} | |||
{{WB|Ven=I knew it! But I really have to say that I was looking forward to the colored version instead of the monochrome one! But we can't argue with Nomura! Monochrome it is!}} | |||
{{ST|text=@Roxnick, actually, i'll give kryten this, when properly translated nomura does say that you specifically get Vanitas' keyblade, making no mention of the Spirit. but i still win :)(sorry i hardly ever win so im really taking it in right now)}} | |||
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:Just one, for each. Each character gets it, and you only have to beat the people once in each save file.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:24, September 3, 2010 (UTC) | :Just one, for each. Each character gets it, and you only have to beat the people once in each save file.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:24, September 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== | == Vanitas's Keyblade == | ||
{{ | we have no true confirmation that "void gear" is the name of vanitas's keyblade. yes we know the name is void gear for vanitas lingering spirit, but not for vanitas himself. i suggest we leave the two separate until someone hacks vanitas's keyblade and finds out what his keyblade's true name is.[[Special:Contributions/75.164.124.42|75.164.124.42]] 11:55, September 14, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:That's true to an extent, but when talking about it, Nomura just called this "Vanitas's Keyblade", indicating that they are the same thing.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 13:05, September 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Not exactly, nomura said you get "his keyblade" IIRC[[Special:Contributions/75.164.124.42|75.164.124.42]] 22:19, September 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::No, he didn't. He said "Vanitas's Keyblade". Can you read Japanese?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 01:25, September 15, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::Maybe a link to the interview would be best to settle this argument, though i saw a discussion about it in KHi once but they themselves weren't able to cnfirm it when it wasn't released yet.[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 22:35, September 15, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::....we already covered this above this discussion. KHinsider doesn't have rigorous translations. Nomura explicitly says "Vanitas's Keyblade". Anybody who can read Japanese could spot the line in a second.23:50, September 15, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::Again, a link would be best. i simply can't take yours and the other IP's word for it.[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 23:58, September 16, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::Scroll up. The link is in a section above this one ("Vanitas's Sentiment's Keyblade obtainable in NA!").{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}00:05, September 17, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I guess this is all from people who haven't beaten VR. He drops a Keyblade called Void Gear. I have it equip to Ven.--Evnyofdeath 00:16, September 17, 2010 (UTC) | |||
You don't need to "guess" if you read the discussion. It's a debate over whether Vanitas' Keyblade (the red and black one) shares this name or not.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}00:19, September 17, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::this really didn't confirm if this is vanitas's keyblade, just vanitas sentiment.....[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 08:17, September 19, 2010 (UTC) | |||
Except Nomura never calls it "Vanitas's Sentiment/Remnant/Lingering Spirit's Keyblade". He specifically calls it "Vanitas's Keyblade". This is just the Remnant's version.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}08:35, September 19, 2010 (UTC) | |||
again i would like to ask for a source and a quote. it's not so easy trusting information when theres no source. i can't take your word for it unless you bring something reliable[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 10:42, September 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||
That and "Void" gear fits thematically with Vanitas' name.[[Special:Contributions/66.56.199.131|66.56.199.131]] 12:21, September 20, 2010 (UTC) | |||
Dude, this is annoying ME. What, do you think they made this up? If multiple people have translated the line as "Vanitas's Keyblade," then it's obvious that Nomura thought that considering the Remnant's weapon a 2nd Keyblade would have been splitting hairs. If you doubt the validity of the translation, you can translate it yourself online.[[Special:Contributions/75.195.159.118|75.195.159.118]] 11:37, September 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::but how do i know they're saying that just to end the conversation. don't you think itt should've been easier to end if they brought the quote with them rather than just them saying it? it's too difficult to trust information like that.[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 12:01, September 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Here's what you do: | |||
#READ THE BLOODY DISCUSSION JUST UP THE PAGE WE KEEP POINTING YOU AT. | |||
#LEARN JAPANESE YOUR OWN DAMN SELF BEFORE TELLING US WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO TRANSLATE SIMPLE WORDS. | |||
[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 12:55, September 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||
i only see two in english>[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 14:33, September 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::yeah you guys aren't being too specific. you guys barely mention about the sections.[[Special:Contributions/144.90.92.62|144.90.92.62]] 14:56, September 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::LapisScarab gave the bloody name of the section. We've reminded you guys that this has already been covered four separate times. EVEN THEN, you should have read the talk page before starting this thread to see if your complaint was already covered. We've done every blasted thing short of coming to your house, loading the webpage on your PC, and shoving your face into it. | |||
:::But since I doubt even that would work, here's the content again: | |||
:::{{nihongo|[http://www.ff-reunion.net/kh/2010/06/25/khbbs_dengeki_nomura_interview "In addition, because there were many voices of dissatisfaction at the reward for defeating Vanitas's Sentiment, '''Vanitas's Keyblade''' can now be obtained."]|ほかには、ヴァニタスの思念を倒したときのごほうびが不満という声が多かったので、'''ヴァニタスのキーブレード'''を入手できるようになっていますね。}} | |||
:::Seriously, what the fricking hell.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 15:15, September 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::Old discussion but still: The Memorial Ultimania makes a difference between Vanitas's Keyblade (ヴァニタスのキーブレード) and Void Gear (ヴォイドギア). --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 13:11, 18 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::Out of curiosity, does it use the "'s Keyblade" construction for any of the Keyblades we have explicitly confirmed names for, like Sora's or Kairi's?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::::It actually does, it's [http://images.khinsider.com/2014%20Uploads/10/Memorial%20Ultimania/bbs_03.png "Master Eraqus' Keyblade (Master Keeper)"] and [http://images.khinsider.com/2014%20Uploads/10/Memorial%20Ultimania/kh2_05.png "Kairi's Keyblade (Destiny Place)"], the rest seems to be named accordingly. Most of the scans can be found [http://www.khinsider.com/news/Kingdom-Hearts-Series-Memorial-Ultimania-Scans-4541 here], while the complete Keyblade section (where every Keyblade from the games is displayed) is not included, it seems I have to scan them myself. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 15:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
::So that would make it seem as if Keychain names and "'s Keyblade" are not exclusive.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
== design == | |||
{{ST|text=think we should rework the design section to describe the version that that the player wields first, and then describe vanitas', or should we just keep it as is?}} | |||
::i think that's a good idea. keep it more gameplay-wise.[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 12:02, September 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||
{{JFHavoc|time=15:22, September 24, 2010 (UTC)|text=The description for the remnant's version is pretty brief, and the description of the one the real Vanitas uses pretty much covers it. I don't necessarily think we need to change it, but if everyone else wants to it's fine by me.}} | |||
== Japanese name. == | |||
Since this page cannot be edited; in Final Mix the name of the blade is called "ヴォイドギア" which mostly translates into "Void Gear". | |||
[[User:1stkirbyever|1stkirbyever]] 07:14, January 25, 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Could you give us a screenshot, for the sake of completeness? --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 07:17, January 25, 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Sure, here it [http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/295/snap032wh.png is]. --[[User:1stkirbyever|1stkirbyever]] 08:19, January 25, 2011 (UTC) | |||
==Too big== | |||
The image extends the box for it. We should upload a smaller version. {{User:Master Riku the Bloody/Sig1}} 21:31, 6 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Just add "size=200px" to the infobox. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 21:36, 6 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Re:coded == | |||
I'm confused. Vanitas's Void Gear was in Re:coded? Was it removed content of some sort? --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 00:06, 4 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:It was an Avatar Part, like Jungle King. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 02:00, 4 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Ah, gotcha. :) Thanks. --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 02:16, 4 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::No problem. If you have any further questions, please, just come to me. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 02:26, 5 September 2016 (UTC) | |||