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*Where you're getting each Medal
*Where you're getting each Medal
:::::::Everything else looks like you're able to go back and check it later, but these three, to my understanding, have to be done first pass. I'm also just ''desperately'' confused on how Special Missions work -- do they reoccur? Do they ever include story material? Is is physically possible for us to catalogue all relevant data for each of them, quickly enough? Would we have to assign people to capture data to make sure it gets done? Is there perchance a helpful fansite anywhere already cataloging all relevant data that we could set up an agreement with? Is it possible to rip this data?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 11:54, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Everything else looks like you're able to go back and check it later, but these three, to my understanding, have to be done first pass. I'm also just ''desperately'' confused on how Special Missions work -- do they reoccur? Do they ever include story material? Is is physically possible for us to catalogue all relevant data for each of them, quickly enough? Would we have to assign people to capture data to make sure it gets done? Is there perchance a helpful fansite anywhere already cataloging all relevant data that we could set up an agreement with? Is it possible to rip this data?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 11:54, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::::[http://www.khwiki.com/User:Chainoffire/KHUX This]. Everybody needs to help make those notes.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 12:10, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
There are several types of special missions
;Weekly missions[http://www.khunchainedx.com/wiki/Category:Daily_Dungeon]
These only open up at the specific day or when you cash out to unlock them all at once. These are the EXP Medals: Power/Speed/Magic, the Evolve medals: Power/Speed/Magic, the 1-3/4-5 Star Evolve medals and the different Keyblade material + the Mythril Madness missions. They are incredibly useful for your deck progression and can be repeated as often as you want. The Japanese version also features Adamant missions (to upgrade Keyblades past level 20) that stay open the whole week but change at the end of it. Additionally there are also premium missions that only open up when you buy jewels and stay open until Sunday midnight (not implemented in the NA version yet). Completed challenges stay the same for these missions, these quests never changes.
;Daily missions
There is the munny quest which opens up during three random times a day for twenty minutes, the challenges of this quest stay completed, and the daily jewel challenge which can only be found in the Japanese version at the moment. They are a way to farm jewels each day by completing the three challenges of three missions. The missions and their challenges rotate, I think it's only five mission with different challenges but the enemies and attributes can change (meaning it's acutally 15 missions). It would be possible to record them all.
;Event missions:
These are the three permanent proud quests and eventually timed event missions. The timed event missions will often come with their own Avatar Boards and these can't be re-accessed later. There are also premium Avatar Boards that will only be purchasable for a limited time, but will stay in your inventory once you got them. I still have screenshots of every Japanese event mission, if that's of any use. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 12:32, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
:How do I tell if it's an Event Mission? Are there any active now?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:40, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
::There is no event active now. If you check the "Events" tab (I think it's unlocked after you reach level 15 or so) and there are only the Proud Quests to be found then there is also no ongoing event. There is also a banner for every event that will be displayed on the home screen. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 16:11, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
:::I started noting the avatar boards on [[Forum:Notes 36, (UCX, Everything)]].  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 13:02, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Greetings from the KHUX Wiki! My intent is to catalog both the English and Japanese versions of the game (many international players don't want to start over from square one after so much time invested, and the Japanese version just got an update on Thursday as well), but obviously that takes up a good chunk of time, so I'd be super excited to have your manpower to help get everything more fleshed out over there.
I started the Wiki fairly soon after the Japanese game launched because I got tired of having to answer the same questions about mission challenges and which medal was better, so it's largely a medal and mission catalog now--mostly because by the time I started it, I'd already missed out on screencapping early game things like Avatar Boards I'd already completed, which Title Banners were awarded when, early Keyblade stats etc. (and to be frank, nobody was asking me those questions every day, so they fell quite low on my priority list lol)
I wouldn't mind the porting option (to keep the KHUX wiki specialized), and I'd be excited to affiliate with you as well! Since we're only on Day 2 of the English version and all of the medals' stats have remained the same, we can focus our collective efforts on other areas like making it look nicer than I can manage (I'm pretty amateur when it comes to wiki design) grabbing screenshots of the English mission requirements, details on the first month's Coliseum and getting organized in anticipation of the first in-game event. [[User:SadakoTetsuwan|SadakoTetsuwan]] ([[User talk:SadakoTetsuwan|talk]]) 00:31, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:Sounds like a good idea to me, at least. Our wiki hasn't really started mainspace coverage of Medals, Missions, and Avatar Boards right now, so those would all be good topics to incorporate at your wiki I think. Stuff like Keyblades or plot we'd probably want to keep a copy here, since it integrates with the Keyblades and plot from the rest of the games, but any new mechanics specific to KHU would be easily portable.
:That's my own opinion, though, so what do other people think?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:15, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::Yeah, short summaries and links between our wikis would probably be best in those instances (and in cases like adding character information to the Medal pages--we don't need the whole Sora page on each Sora medal, after all, lol).[[User:SadakoTetsuwan|SadakoTetsuwan]] ([[User talk:SadakoTetsuwan|talk]]) 03:00, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:::I think it would be a good idea to move all medal, mission, event, avatar boards to the KHUX wiki, while leaving a small summary here with links to the other wiki. We should definitely keep information about story, characters, keyblades, and enemies here, but we can sync information between the wiki's.
:::Would it be possible to also cover the original KHx on the KHUX wiki? I don't know if there are a lot of differences between missions and events, but you could at least cover the cards, like you cover the medals.
:::As I can't play Unchained yet, I won't be able to help out that much, but if you need help with anything else, like coding templates or something, feel free to ask. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 11:20, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::::I'd be happy to host any information you guys have regarding KHX, and I can ask the members of my party for any information they have, too--they're pretty upset about the impending end of service after all the time and effort they poured in, so giving them a task to remember it by might help ease their suffering, lol.
::::I'd also be extremely grateful if you could help out on coding and templates. I'm a total amateur at it (part of the reason why I decided to start my own Wiki--I didn't want to A, junk yours up, and B, then get my junky stuff deleted lol), so I've mostly been lifting code from wikis and experimenting with its effects--it usually imploded thanks to my lack of custom libraries to reference. I only have enough coding knowledge to be dangerous, lol. [[User:SadakoTetsuwan|SadakoTetsuwan]] ([[User talk:SadakoTetsuwan|talk]]) 04:04, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
::::I've unlocked everything up to the Coliseum unlock in the NA version (Mission #130), so I can get screenshots/infos of the current tiers, ranks, mission requirements for quests, cutscenes, etc, if anyone wants. [[User:HikariKH|<font color="red">'''Hikari'''</font>]][[User talk:HikariKH|<font color="gray">'''KH'''</font>]]  00:42, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::That would be excellent! I've had a busy weekend, so I'm rather falling behind this time around. The quest requirements and rewards up until 130 ought to be the same as the Japanese version, although some might differ a bit (plus, the NA version grants Avatar Coin x4 and Avatar Coin x6 for completing mission requirements rather than 'Coin x5/Coin x5'--again, everything is juuust different enough that we can't just use the old information), and for the next several days I'll be relying on everyone to help me discern just how much needs to be adjusted for the NA release info. We should probably put the English mission info at the top of the page and bump the Japanese mission info farther down.
:::::Recording the Coliseum information as quickly as possible would be good, since it'll be gone by the end of the month, and I didn't get on that soon enough in the Japanese version.
:::::One thing that I always wanted to do but didn't get around to starting until a few weeks ago was recording all of the medal attack animations, to better complete the medal catalog and to record unique animations. [[User:SadakoTetsuwan|SadakoTetsuwan]] ([[User talk:SadakoTetsuwan|talk]]) 04:04, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::: http://imgur.com/a/45ke7 || http://imgur.com/a/NJ0FW || http://imgur.com/a/TGXfn All mission requirements up to 131 + Mythril Madness + 4/5* evolve medals + first coli tier(wave 1) and Proud Quests (Power). I'll get on the coli asap to record all the waves/tiers. (And sorry for the separate albums, chrome kept dying if I tried to upload 140 images at once) 
:::::: [EDIT] http://imgur.com/a/HRVKp First two Coli tiers+Cid Board showing each prize.
:::::: [EDIT2] http://imgur.com/a/rheC4 All Mission Requirements 131-200.  [[User:HikariKH|<font color="red">'''Hikari'''</font>]][[User talk:HikariKH|<font color="gray">'''KH'''</font>]]  19:43, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Hey Hikari, I'm running a google doc(https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B03__kAYi2OXbnQ1TXJuQUdBZ00) documenting as much information as I can to put it on the KHUX wiki. I'd like to invite you to be a part of it in collecting resources, since we seem to be covering similar categories. Please message me on the forums(http://kh13.com/forum/user/59532-jared-pryatel/) with your email or email me at mailto://jared.pryatel@gmail.com so I can add you as an editor. Hoping to hear from you soon! [[User:Xiro|Xiro]] ([[User talk:Xiro|talk]]) 02:39, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
:::I mean, if that's one of the reasons for creating a different site, we'd be happy to recode everything if you were interested in a straight merge.
:::In any case, I've posted a link to this forum in the sitenotice, so we can get more editors aware of this and start planning for how we're actually going to carry this out.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:16, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello there. KH13.com and our affiliated wiki would like to invite you guys over to our Wiki forum http://kh13.com/forum/forum/89-kingdom-hearts-unchained-%CF%87-wiki/ to discuss working together. We would love to plan and organize how we can work together and accomplish our goals [[User:Lea|Lea]] ([[User talk:Lea|talk]]) 00:56, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
:That's a good plan, we really need a place to organize things since this discussions has gone places, I don't know who is talking to who anymore. Still I think it was made clear that the Unchained Wiki will feature Unchained in its fullest, giving almost everything its own page, but we're here are still include information the way we have used for all other games, this means story summaries, characters, Keyblades, materials and tables for the medals, their abilities and the costumes. But wheras we should focus on the overlap with web [chi] and eventually Back Cover I'm not sure what the goal of the Unchained wiki in this regard is. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 10:03, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
::Just jumping in here to say I support the outline ShardofTruth just established above…I will support this Wiki and the ''Unchained'' Wiki in whatever ways I can, moving forward! - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 10:22, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
We'll aim to cover all of KHX and KHXBC too eventually, since it's so intertwined with KHUX, but we're giving the major focus to KHUX right now. Of course you guys can keep all the general stuff and whatever you want here. There is an official planning topic on our wiki forum we would love for you guys to congregate to and we can further our discussion and plans there. http://kh13.com/forum/topic/96070-official-wiki-planning-discussion-thread/[[User:Lea|Lea]] ([[User talk:Lea|talk]]) 13:53, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 20:40, 12 April 2016 (UTC)|dango=KHUX hasn't released in my region yet, but I'll offer the following suggestions:
*Our discussions are quite scattered with different threads of conversation on this forum page and a new discussion at KH13. Shouldn't the main discussion be held at the KHUX Wiki where all the content will be held, and anything that pertains to the information we will have here can stay? Maybe that will help to keep a track on everything.
*It may be difficult to cover KHX extensively (and document every single mission, card, etc.) because it is only in Japanese, has already passed through a lot of content that no one has kept track of, and only has about five months before it closes down anyway. For those reasons, setting out to fully document KHX may harm the KHUX wiki more than than it will help, since it'll inevitably end up as an unfinished database with huge gaps that will never be able to be filled in. Instead, I think that we should only document the story information and keep a summary of all the gameplay information in tables only (like how the KHWiki is planning on doing with the KHUX info).
*If the KHUX Wiki still does plan on covering everything chi (KHX and KHXBC too), would it at all be possible to change its name to better reflect its scope? This is probably not going to happen but I may as well throw it out, especially since no one has taken the khxwiki.com domain yet...
Now, do I need to duplicate this post on the KH13 thread or not?}}
:::The difficulty in cataloging KHX hasn't escaped me, but I still think it's important to collect and preserve as much data on it as possible before the game disappears, even if it means mining other guides and walkthroughs rather than gathering all of the info first-hand, then worry about translating, organizing and publishing it later with the assistance of past players. Preserving video game history is particularly challenging because of issues like this, but that's a dragon that can be taken on (and one which philosophically I believe ''must'' be taken on). But for now, that would be more of a 'basement of the museum' sort of collection, an archive that would be available to work on as a future project purely out of academic interest, since the game will be long gone by then. The primary focus of the Wiki will definitely be on KHUX, as the title suggests, expanding outward to the two related titles once we've accomplished our main task.
:::The forum link at the KHUX Wiki already links to KH13--also having discussions on the Wiki itself would only exacerbate the problem of 'too many fora', I think. [[User:SadakoTetsuwan|SadakoTetsuwan]] ([[User talk:SadakoTetsuwan|talk]]) 21:34, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
::::FifteenthMember:Shard has done a [[Forum:Notes 23, (KHχ, Items, Keyblades, Heartless, Translations) - ShardofTruth|MASSIVE]] amount of KHx cataloging--as well as [http://www.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-x/guides-and-references KHInsider.] Shard's forum has so much data already on that page and keyblade templates. Even though some Event dates are missing, they are backed up by KHI's link in the reference notes which the Wiki can integrate fairly easily. We are also lacking in [[Kingdom_Hearts_coded#Gameplay|coded information]], but was reinforced by [[Forum:Notes 34, (KHc, Everything) - Pea14733|Pea's log]] and the Re:coded release. {{User:ANX219/Sig}} 23:09, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::Thank you Sadako and ANX, I understand this a lot more now. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 20:04, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::Regarding the coliseum, is there any way, at all, to see what the enemies were for rounds you've completed/skipped? Or did I just completely waste my ability to help on that account?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:29, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::You totally can. There are only ten rounds of enemies that are repeated forever and the first match starts on level 1 with a level gained per rounds. If you know how many rounds a tier has you can predict all of them until 999. I've put some information on the first Coliseum month on the everything page already, this is probably also the place we you should ask these questions. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 22:25, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
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