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 I suggest a new liscensing template, which says something along the lines of "This image was created by <nowiki>[[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]</nowiki>, and is used with permission by this wiki.  All non-consentual use is prohibited by law."  {{The Inexistentsig}} 18:12, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
+{{LA|Vtext=Game rips are not created or owned by the user who ripped them. We can't go around saying that they are. ''That'' would be the real plagiarism.}}
+{{Soxra|roxas=Are we talking game rips like screenshots, or game rips like renders of models taken from inside the game?|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=4:18am, May 19, 2011 (UTC)}}}}
+:Models. <!--Though, thinking about it, Screenshots may apply here...-->--{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 00:38, 19 May 2011 (EDT)
+{{Soxra|sora=Then, no, whoever rendered it has credit to the work. They don't have permission to sell it or otherwise market the content as their own, but they may distribute the image however they see fit. However, only certain licenses can be applied to it as the content is not owned by the renderer.
+If it's a screenshot, it's Fair Use regardless. (Unless it does not fall under Fair Use clauses, in which case it cannot be redistributed, period.)|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=4:57am, May 19, 2011 (UTC)}}}}
+{{LA|Vtext=They may distribute the image as they see fit, but they can't watermark it or claim it as their property.
+I'd like to point out that ripping things from game files is technically illegal.}}
+{{Soxra|roxas=Correct, they cannot watermark it (as this is a brand of the content), but the image itself (as I said before, not the content) is technically created by them. You mentioned that ripping it is illegal; well, this is true. But it also means that they do own the rights to the image they created, even if it is against the law to create such an image. (Just as you own the rights to any plagiarized software you create, for example; but when you are charged with the crime, the copyright is forfeit.)|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=5:47am, May 19, 2011 (UTC)}}}}
+:This may be due to my knowledge of game ripping, or lack thereof, but how are ripped images "technically created by them"? --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 02:14, 19 May 2011 (EDT)
+{{Soxra|roxas=It was like I said about taking a picture of a McDonald's sign. You took the picture, and own the photo, but McDonald's owns the rights to the logo and you can only distribute it under certain circumstances. The same applies if you take a picture (or export the render) of content created by someone else (the model from the game).|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=6:45am, May 19, 2011 (UTC)}}}}
+{{LA|Vtext=But that's like saying, "I didn't download this licensed image, I took a screencap of it. That makes it mine." Like taking a ''really good'' photograph. Just because you have it doesn't make it yours, especially if it's a picture of the subject and literally ''nothing else''. That's what ripping is (which is worse than screencapping because it's, you know, illegal).
+But what you're saying makes sense.}}
+{{Soxra|hood=I guess a better comparison is making your own McDonald's logo and taking a picture. It's hard to draw analogies from the virtual world to the physical one; shame it doesn't work like ''Tron''.|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=12:10am, May 20, 2011 (UTC)}}}}