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(And bashing a voice actor is also redundant.)
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It's called knives officially I believe... as far as I know the "kunai" reference is just a comparison to kunai made by fans. Much like calling Xemnas' blades "lightsabers" or Zexion's weapon a dictionary. It seems like we should just go with what's official... and mention that they are often called kunai by fans? How does that sound? '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 04:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
It's called knives officially I believe... as far as I know the "kunai" reference is just a comparison to kunai made by fans. Much like calling Xemnas' blades "lightsabers" or Zexion's weapon a dictionary. It seems like we should just go with what's official... and mention that they are often called kunai by fans? How does that sound? '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 04:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


:Well many call it a Kunai due to its design. Plus the way Larxene uses them is identical to ninja using the kunai as a throwing weapon. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kunai05.jpg pic of Kunai] [[User:Fractyl2|Fractyl]]
:Well many call it a Kunai due to its design. Plus the way Larxene uses them is identical to ninja using the kunai as a throwing weapon. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kunai05.jpg pic of Kunai] [[User:Fractyl2|Fractyl]]
::It may "officially" knives, but if we did everything the "official way" many articles would come into question, the fact is that her weapons are 100% kunai, they are between her fingers and thrown, knives are generally held one-at-a-time, by hand and may be thrown.[[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 21:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
::It may "officially" knives, but if we did everything the "official way" many articles would come into question, the fact is that her weapons are 100% kunai, they are between her fingers and thrown, knives are generally held one-at-a-time, by hand and may be thrown.[[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 21:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Are we changing it or not?[[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 05:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Are we changing it or not?[[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 05:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
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:No, there are actual novelizations. I don't think many of them are in English yet, however.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 07:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
:No, there are actual novelizations. I don't think many of them are in English yet, however.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 07:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
{{Firaga44|happy=i should read that tonight but before i might want to read the first one}}
{{Firaga44|happy=i should read that tonight but before i might want to read the first one}}
Haha I'm thinking that her flirting with with Axel has less to do with emotion (seeing as how she has none) and more a function of physical attraction, which would still be in affect seeing as how physical attraction is a function of the body and not the heart, and she does have a body, obviously. [[User:Axel&#39;s Sentiment|Axel&#39;s Sentiment]] 19:31, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
:She certainly does.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:52, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


== 358/2 Days Video ==
== 358/2 Days Video ==
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you don't know nothing about ninja's Urutapu. anyway Troisnyextinne. I can get on my page now. I well update the picture of xigbar. on my page talk to you soon amiga[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 02:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
you don't know nothing about ninja's Urutapu. anyway Troisnyextinne. I can get on my page now. I well update the picture of xigbar. on my page talk to you soon amiga[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 02:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


{{BebopKate|text=Fun fact: [[wikipedia:Kunai|Kunai are actually gardening trowels]].
{{BebopKate|text=Fun fact: {{w|Kunai|Kunai are actually gardening trowels}}.


Seriously, her weapons look like they could be very-stylized knives or very-stylized kunai.  I think you could safely call them either in this case, even if Nomura didn't exactly say the word "kunai".  Besides, if you bring those into the real world, they're going to be pretty hard to use as either anyway ("Let me grab my...OW!  ''All'' the ends are pointy!")
Seriously, her weapons look like they could be very-stylized knives or very-stylized kunai.  I think you could safely call them either in this case, even if Nomura didn't exactly say the word "kunai".  Besides, if you bring those into the real world, they're going to be pretty hard to use as either anyway ("Let me grab my...OW!  ''All'' the ends are pointy!")
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::This is what qualifies as a knife:
::This is what qualifies as a knife:
:::"A knife is a handheld sharp-edged instrument consisting of a handle attached to a blade that is used for cutting. Knives were used at least two-and-a-half million years ago, as evidenced by the Oldowan tools. [1][2]"
:::"A knife is a handheld sharp-edged instrument consisting of a handle attached to a blade that is used for cutting. Knives were used at least two-and-a-half million years ago, as evidenced by the Oldowan tools. [1][2]"
:[[wikipedia:Stiletto|This is what Larxene uses]].
:{{w|Stiletto|This is what Larxene uses}}.
::From the above, I'm pretty sure you've never seen an actual ninja using a kunai, either, at least nothing like the type you see in Naruto, or like the knives Larxene uses. Kunai are also ''completely impossible'' to hold between the fingers like Larxene does, unlike Stilletos, which are a kind of '''knife''' virtually identical to the Shock Charms. (what's your hangup with ninjas, anyway? People only think she's like one because they think her weapon's are kunai, so it's circular reasoning)
::From the above, I'm pretty sure you've never seen an actual ninja using a kunai, either, at least nothing like the type you see in Naruto, or like the knives Larxene uses. Kunai are also ''completely impossible'' to hold between the fingers like Larxene does, unlike Stilletos, which are a kind of '''knife''' virtually identical to the Shock Charms. (what's your hangup with ninjas, anyway? People only think she's like one because they think her weapon's are kunai, so it's circular reasoning)


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{{BebopKate|text=Nicely convincing argument.  Knives it is, then.}}
{{BebopKate|text=Nicely convincing argument.  Knives it is, then.}}
WAIT! It's not over yet because I read the link that BebopKate posted and it says that Larxene uses kunai. Really. Just scroll down the page and read it. --[[User:ZexionFan321|ZexionFan321]] 22:13, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
:It is ''completely and totally over''. Every official source calls her weapons knives.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 01:13, May 5, 2010 (UTC)


== Attacks ==
== Attacks ==
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{{Gohantalk|time=12:30|text=Does anyone know were to get the Attacks for the rest of Organization 13?}}
{{Gohantalk|time=12:30|text=Does anyone know were to get the Attacks for the rest of Organization 13?}}
::The named ones are from CoM, and then there are semi-named ones from the Bradygames and Ultimania guides.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 17:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
::The named ones are from CoM, and then there are semi-named ones from the Bradygames and Ultimania guides.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 17:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
==Larxene's Heartless==
{{Emilyc|text=Whenever someone says Larxene's name, I can picture her wearing gothic things under her coat. I think we might see the gothic girl's Heartless in a future game. Do you think Larxene is gothic?}}
{{TNE|text=I don't know... Methinks she's more prep-school than gothic. Prep-school because of her voice.}}
{{Emilyc|text=Well, goths like evil and Larxene ''is'' evil. Goths dress spooky (more spooky than Halloween Town) and Larxene might be dressed that way when she was whole. Goths do bad stuff like littering, bulling, swearing etc and Larxene tried to kill Sora. Add that up.}}
{{TNE|blahtext=Correction : Not all goths like evil. I have a friend who's a goth and she's as sweet as ever.
If you've seen Mean Girls, you might want to equate that to Larxene. Only that Larxene does it in a more severe manner.}}
{{XNamineX|text=I don't think she's goth. I see her as one of those punky chicks that like to be wild and doesn't care what people think about her, personality-wise.}}
{{Twoface13|I think she was a hired assasin as a whole person (which explains her violent nature.)|}}
{{Firaga44|happy=or a ninja that would explain the throwing knifes}}
{{PrincessAndie|text= I dress goth, and I'm not evil. How can an evil person have a Tigger talk bubble? I think Larxene is a misunderstood blond chick who acts the way she does to impress Axel. Have you seen the way she hangs all over him in Re: CoM?}}
{{Firaga44|text=yeah like a bee to honey i think axel likes larxene to but this opinion is coming from a kid who has not a single ounce of knowledge on this kind of thing}}


==Quotes Section==
==Quotes Section==
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{{Guardian Soul|text=Yup, it's all good.  Also, that Axel render could be cut out too.  We have a Days one, but not the one where he's holding his chakrams.}}
{{Guardian Soul|text=Yup, it's all good.  Also, that Axel render could be cut out too.  We have a Days one, but not the one where he's holding his chakrams.}}


{{Bowser the Second|text=I did that a while ago [[File: Axel Days 2.png|150px]]}}
{{Bowser the Second|text=I did that a while ago [[File: Axel KHD.png|150px]]}}


{{Guardian Soul|text=Oh, lovely.}}
{{Guardian Soul|text=Oh, lovely.}}


Cool. Just try to get Xaldin and Lexaeus, please. BTW, It is possible to get a full render of Lexaeus. Get the site at full screen. Xaldin will use some work though, as you will tru to get a full render of him with his six ginsu lances.
Cool. Just try to get Xaldin and Lexaeus, please. BTW, It is possible to get a full render of Lexaeus. Get the site at full screen. Xaldin will use some work though, as you will tru to get a full render of him with his six ginsu lances.
== Weapon Names ==
Oh, Trois is gonna have a field day when she gets back.
{{TNE|blahtext=And a field day I'm going to have, indeed. I'd better get back to my books ! The rest of you, see [[Talk:Calment]] - because I have a feeling the spelling is wrong.}}
Yeah. All of her weapons are French. But I wonder what they all look like, except for Eclair, that is Larxene's default.
{{unbirthtalk|text=I just noticed that they were named in french. O_o
A bit weird for me to find words in my language in articles about a japanese game, on an english wiki.
I bet they won't change any of them in the french version.}}
Yeah. Maybe the person who was Larxene came from France and her name was Arlene. But when she lost her heart Xemnas found her and became Larxene. That's my theory.[[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 20:18, 11 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
{{unbirthtalk|text=France doesn't even exist in the KH universe, it wouldn't be logical. I agree about the name, it may be Arlène (in the french version, Larxène is written with an accent)}}
Yeah. It was a theory as to why Larxene's weapon names were french.[[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 22:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
{{NinjaSheik|text=Actually, it kinda makes sense to me. I mean, if you ever read the Manga, you'll see Larxene reading a book called ''Marquis de Sade''. It was a book about a FRENCH sadist, rapist, and bunch of other things I forgot. If you think about, the book is in French and her weapons are in French, too! Put two and two together, and you get your answer!}}
Well, that and "Larxene" just ''sounds'' French. If you read katakana it's even more French-sounding; the transliteration has a very French style.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 23:00, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
{{unbirthtalk|text=Actually, the ''Marquis de Sade'' was a writter (he really lived, but the book she was reading wasn't his), and the word "sadism" came from his name (and we all know that Larxene love to make suffer). I think they make Larxene related to France to use the "refined" image that come from it.
Thanks God they haven't use it for Marluxia, and haven't make him the nth gay-looking-french-guy in a japanese series...}}
{{KrytenKoro|She's probably from the Beast's Castle over-world - Belle's village, even.}}
That could be a theory too.[[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 12:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
{{HarpieSirenTalk|text=Even though the world hasn't been shown yet she could be from Hunchback of Notre Dame's Paris. That world is just screwed up enough for Lar-Lar.}}
{{unbirthtalk|text=I don't think an exclusive character like a member of the Organization could be from a Disney world, as far as we know all only-kh characters are from only-kh worlds.}}
{{HarpieSirenTalk|text=*shrugs* That's probably true, but it's a cool thing to explore in fanfiction...}}
{{TNE|happytext=@Unbirth : They definitely have to change [[Extirper]], ''parce que c'est un infinitif !''
@HarpieSiren : We wonder if she ever actually did come from there... She seems so UNHOLY for Notre-Dame
@Urutapu : What would be more precisely French-sounding is when her name is spelt “Larxène” – that way, the pronunciation would be  ラクゼヌ (''Rakuzenu'').
Wait : @Unbirth – ''Rakusenu'' or ''Rakuzenu'' ?}}
{{unbirthtalk|text=Personally I would prononce it "Rakusenu", and I think most french people are in the same case.}}
{{TNE|remerciement=@Urutapu : ラクセヌ ''Rakusenu'' it is then.}}
:Uh, her name is pronounced without the accent as far as I can tell. We have the real katakana right in the article, it should be "lark-seen" (''rakushīnu'')...and , actually, Larxene would probably fit in in ''Notre Dame''. Half the theme of the movie is "people being in the Church doesn't make them holy in the least".—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 22:08, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
{{TNE|text=That's because the kana follows the English pronunciation, doesn't it ? ;-) Anyhow, you're quite right about the last bit. I've seen unholy people in church, 'nuff said.}}
{{LyingMemories|time=[[User:Lying Memories|Lying Memories]] 07:55, February 11, 2010 (UTC)|text= ACTUALLY...... France CAN exist in the KH universe, for various various reasons. First off, the game is made using Disney movies as the background for most of the worlds. And last I checked, in 2007, we had a movie that takes place in France, distributed by Disney, called Ratatouille. Secondly, most of the worlds are based on real life places, i.e. Port Royal, The Land of Dragons, Pride Lands, Olympus Coliseum, etc. So you can't rule out her being from France. Oh and as a side note..... she is a sadistic bitchy little whore. and I'm only cursing just to give an accurate description of her. I usually don't curse on wikias where I'm unsure of whether it's taboo or not.
EDIT 08:01, February 11, 2010 (UTC) OH wow I failed. I completely forgot about Hunchback of Notre Dame. That seems a lot more of a likely world then a movie about a rat chef, considering there's a lot of violence and dark undertones there. Perfect for her. How could I forget about one of my favorite movies? That's it..... I'm going to a corner to cry now T_T...... haha not really tho}}{{TNE|time=11:38, February 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=The Paris in Ratatouille would most likely come out. KH is almost entirely secular, and I don't think they'll add the spiritual bit with Notre Dame. Highly unlikely. Think, we can make wonders by switching the Ratatouille story a bit here, and a little more there... (That's what they did for most stories in KH1...)}}
{{LyingMemories|time=[[User:Lying Memories|Lying Memories]] 18:59, February 11, 2010 (UTC)|text= But you can't deny the sheer epicness that would be accompanied in Notre Dame and just the thought of Judge Claude Frollo succumbing to the darkness and evil that's in his heart. I can definitely see him as being one of Maleficent's cohorts and commanding legions of Heartless. For a while, I thought that they would've put Notre Dame in BBS.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=19:59, February 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=I'm actually surprised they haven't already included a Notre Dame world already. It's like it was taylor made for this series. Then again, it has significantly more mature themes than most other Disney movies, so maybe that's why.}}
{{TNE|time=00:56, February 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yes, and on top of that, there is a conflict between the actual ending of the story and the poignancy of Victor Hugo's original. So imagine if they were to put it in, if mature themes are to be overlooked. If they ever switch it around, how is it going to end ? If it should end on a happy note, what is the entire definition of happy ?
Notre Dame is indeed a difficult place to handle, and Ratatouille's Paris would suit the game in light of the themes brought in.
''Mais pourquoi parlons-nous de la France et Ratatouille et Notre-Dame ?'' Bring us back to the connexion with Larxene !}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=How about Beastle's Castle? If you remember from the movie, in has a little French in it.}}
{{TNE|time=01:13, February 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=Beast's Castle has old French influence (pretty Loire-ish), no doubt ; but it was Xaldin's playground more than Larxene's.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=True.}}
{{LyingMemories|time=[[User:Lying Memories|Lying Memories]] 03:07, February 12, 2010 (UTC)|text= Trois, I'm not really sure of what you're saying, 1) because I've never read the original Notre Dame, though I do know there are major major differences between it and the movie. 2) They could definitely end it on a happy note, just by using some stuff from the...... sequel. SOME stuff mind you, the sequel was horrible. It took away everything that was awesome in the first. The dark undertones and whatnot. But I'm sure that a KH version sequel would be 120X better than the actual sequel}}
{{TNE|time=03:18, February 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=The original Notre Dame ends up in Esmeralda being hanged under Frollo's orders, and Quasimodo ultimately giving up his life to be by her side. *SPOILERS ENDED*
I didn't mind the sequel, to be honest, but I hated Sarousch.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Me too. I like Notre Dame II, especially their songs.}}


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Like I said before, I think Sir GS, Sir DTN, Lady TNE, or Mister Judgement95 would be a good choice to revise the sections for Axel, Marluxia. Oh, and the other novels for Luxord and Demyx. Also, I think we should add a novel section for Xaldin, Zexion, and Saix. Lexaeus appeared as well. Who else am I missing...?
Like I said before, I think Sir GS, Sir DTN, Lady TNE, or Mister Judgement95 would be a good choice to revise the sections for Axel, Marluxia. Oh, and the other novels for Luxord and Demyx. Also, I think we should add a novel section for Xaldin, Zexion, and Saix. Lexaeus appeared as well. Who else am I missing...?


I would recommand the 358/2 Days novels translation, but we're lacking information. It's not enough to start a section on them.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 23:01, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
I would recommand the 358/2 Days novels translation, but we're lacking information. It's not enough to start a section on them.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:01, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
:Ah, to be clear about my revert on that - the basic structure which the cleanup was based on was too fundamentally flawed. I thought I had removed it completely, but sorry if it looked like I was insulting you.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 01:04, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
:Ah, to be clear about my revert on that - the basic structure which the cleanup was based on was too fundamentally flawed. I thought I had removed it completely, but sorry if it looked like I was insulting you.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 01:04, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
No. It's all right.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 01:19, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
No. It's all right.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 01:19, November 12, 2009 (UTC)


== Spoilers? ==
== Spoilers? ==
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{{XNX|text=There, I think it looks pretty good.}}
{{XNX|text=There, I think it looks pretty good.}}
== Her true name ==
Is it possible it might be French? One of the possibilities I came up with were Arlene. [[User:Maggosh|Maggosh]] 03:40, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
:It is probably something French(-sounding) given her overwhelmingly French thematic elements, but there's obviously no way to know her name.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 06:50, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
{{Yuffie Kisaragi|blah= we talked about her name being french above}}
== On a side note... ==
"Larxene is an exceptionally capable fighter; both times she talks to Sora, she is able to kick and jab him repeatedly faster than he can retaliate, and send him flying through the air with a single kick; the second time she does this, she heavily injures Sora to the point that he can barely stand."
Wow, what did she do, kick him in the groin the second time she did that? Those things can really hurt; I'm surprised he was able to even stand at all with that much force the kick had...--[[User:Pkthis|Pkthis]] 21:35, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
Has anybody thought that Larxene kind of acts like a pikachu from pokemon?


==What Happened?==
==What Happened?==
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{{Yuffie Kisaragi|text=TNE Saves the day once again! xD}}
{{Yuffie Kisaragi|text=TNE Saves the day once again! xD}}
{{TNE|time=03:46, February 15, 2010 (UTC)|text=Although I wonder where the part about the weapon names went...}}
{{TNE|time=03:46, February 15, 2010 (UTC)|text=Although I wonder where the part about the weapon names went...}}
==Fighting Style from 356/2 Days==
Why was the section on her fighting style from 356/2 Days removed (attacks, limits, weapons)?  Is it its own article now or something?[[User:TwoBitSpecialist|TwoBitSpecialist]] 21:54, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
::It was not removed, but moved to [[Mission Mode]], where this section is better suited. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 21:55, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
== Defeat ==
Just something that has been troubling me, Larxene is the 2nd eliminated, but I think it should state she was the first 'killed' by Sora, Donald and Goofy. Vexen survived his final battle with Sora, but then Axel killed him. I just thought that counted for something. Should I add it. ([[User:Bananaphone1996|Bananaphone1996]] 21:23, April 23, 2010 (UTC))
==...''except'' Eruption ?==
{{TNE|time=00:11, July 8, 2010 (UTC)|blahtext=If you come to think of it, you'd consider Indigo and Dissonance as part of the list, since they also exist in English. The ''except Eruption'' part under Larxene's weapons ''should'', at all costs, be taken off. Because the kana give the French pronunciation of '''''all''''' the names, and we shouldn't make the assumption that just because it exists in English, it shouldn't be counted.}}
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