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[[User:BigHeadZack|BigHeadZack]] 21:25, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
[[User:BigHeadZack|BigHeadZack]] 21:25, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
==Release Date==
The release date is January 27, 2011. http://www.ff-reunion.net/news/2010/10/13/sqex_news_311-2 --[[User:Breaktheice16|BreaktheIce16]] <small>([[User talk:Breaktheice16|talk]])</small> 12:16, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
== Kana ==
[http://images.khinsider.com/BbS:FM/Scans/10.15.2010.famitsu.jpg Katakana is used for "Final Mix"]. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 04:19, October 15, 2010 (UTC)


== Editing ==
== Editing ==
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Bahaha...now I feel like an idiot -_-...but thanks for pointing out my ignorance, what about the illusion L bit? {{User:Lapidothtill/Sig}} 16:20, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
Bahaha...now I feel like an idiot -_-...but thanks for pointing out my ignorance, what about the illusion L bit? {{User:Lapidothtill/Sig}} 16:20, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
== Date Set and multiple info ==
{{ErryTalk|text=The date for BbS FM is January 20th of 2011. Here's the source:
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/10/29/kh_bbs_final_mix_date/
There's more info too, but this is the main basis of the post.
}}


== Release date ==
== Release date ==
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{{Xemnas8|text=Why hasn't anyone added the release date on the page. Someone who has connections to an admin or something should ask them to add it. It isn't a rumour, it has been annouced}}
{{Xemnas8|text=Why hasn't anyone added the release date on the page. Someone who has connections to an admin or something should ask them to add it. It isn't a rumour, it has been annouced}}
== American Release? ==
{{TR|sora=Well i was wondering if the game is even going to release in America because as we all know the other final mixes have not and properly never will, i had to work hard to get Kingdom hearts 2 final mix}}
{Pokeneon7} Sorry to say this but, "Final Mix" versions of games are only released in Japan. The best thing you can do is look it up on Youtube when It comes out.
Seeing as PSP games aren't region specific, there's nothing to suggest you can't import the game (providing you can at least read Japanese). [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 14:26, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
Same could be said for every other Final Mix--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 16:05, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
:Only kind of, since you'd have to import a Japanese PS2 as well. Or, if you have a very strong computer, you can play it on there.[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 16:46, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
== A Complete List of Add-Ons to KH BbS: FM ==
{Pokeneon7} We know this, (All info was found on KHInsider which will sometimes link to a picture or story)
New Mirage Arena Maps: Monstro
New Commands: "Illusion" ~ Fight as Unversed
New Mini-Game Songs/Courses: All NA/EU Ice-Cream Beat songs + New Course(s) for Rumble Racing
New Command Boards: Never Land Board
Submit more info when it comes out!
{{TR|roxas=The fact that i have no idea what you just said tells me i really need to play Birth by Sleep =(}}
{Pokeneon7} I need a Talkbox.....


== Secret Episode ==
== Secret Episode ==


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If you actually read the interview, there's a whole conversation on it, so I don't think it's a mistranslation. [[User:RoxasNobody|Roxas]][[User_talk:RoxasNobody|Nobody]]
If you actually read the interview, there's a whole conversation on it, so I don't think it's a mistranslation. [[User:RoxasNobody|Roxas]][[User_talk:RoxasNobody|Nobody]]


== Jump Festa ==
Since people want a draft, how about this.  "Nomura recently announced that this game would have a "Secret Episode."  Unlike the secret movies of past games, players will be able to control the characters in this episode.  The criteria to unlock it is currently unknown."  You guys would have to add it wherever you see fit, as there's no good place right now.  --[[User:RoxasNobody|Roxas]][[User_talk:RoxasNobody|Nobody]]


Nomura said that Birth By Sleep Final Mix will be featured at December's Jump Festa. Does anyone know WHEN the Jump Festa is?--[[User:KRoNoS|KRoNoS]] 17:44, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
Well, I see now... Sorry about my skepticism, RoxasNobody, didn´t mean to sound rude--"Behold the endless Abyss!" -- [[User:Dark-EnigmaXIII]] 22:49, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
:...you just answered your own question. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 17:46, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
I meant the date, not just the month.--[[User:KRoNoS|KRoNoS]] 00:12, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
December 18 and 19--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 18:59, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks!--[[User:KRoNoS|KRoNoS]] 00:12, November 23, 2010 (UTC)


== Come on already! ==
== Come on already! ==
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{{Xemnas8|text=Another thing I don't get is that 3D isn't even annouced but anyone can edit it and there's been no vandalism, so why keep this page locked.}}
{{Xemnas8|text=Another thing I don't get is that 3D isn't even annouced but anyone can edit it and there's been no vandalism, so why keep this page locked.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=22:13, December 4, 2010 (UTC)|text=Provide a draft of what you want to be added to the page. It's not an unreasonable request. If you do that, not only will the information be added, it will be organized. If you won't do that, why should you expect anyone else to?}}
I'm just not going to bother with this page again until it's been unlocked because you're not willing to co-operate with your community. {{User:Erry/SigChristmas}} 01:03, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
{{neumannz|time=02:14, December 5, 2010 (UTC)|text=IT IS NOT HARD TO SAY WHAT YOU WHAT TO SAY. Who's not cooperating? Just write down, simply, what you want to go in the flaming article, and watch the magic happen.}}
{{KrytenKoro|Okay, here's the thing:
When an edit war occurs because editors aren't talking to each other, the page is protected so that they ''have'' to talk to each other. The purpose of a page protection is ''not'' to shut down the article, which is what always seems to happen around here. Just once, just flipping once, can people try to work together instead of just demanding things? I'd really like it if we could just act professionally this once, and hopefully it will catch on.}}
{{Soxra|ienzo=Since no one else seems to want to work together on this, I took a little initiative and put up a draft page that you guys can contribute to. When we're confident that it has all the information we want to see on the new page, we can submit it to the admins and they can put it up at their discretion, and potentially unlock the article for our efforts.
So come on guys, let's work as a team. [[User:Soxra/Lab/Kingdom_Hearts_Birth_by_Sleep_Final_Mix]]}}
{{LA|Vtext=Sounds like a plan.}}
{{Soxra|ienzo=The [[User:Soxra/Lab/Kingdom_Hearts_Birth_by_Sleep_Final_Mix|draft page]] seems to be coming along quite well. We have a release date, new features, boxart & a promotional poster, and the article is worded and formatted well.
Does anyone else have anything to add or change before we submit it to replace the current article?|time={{User:Soxra/Sig}} 17:10, December 9, 2010 (UTC)}}
{{Asif|time=00:24, December 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=How about the trailer on the official website?}}
== Finally ==
{{Xemnas8|text= Finally this page is unlocked. Good job to whoever created it (forgive my ignorance). Now all we need is for it to be released so we can add more pages and info. Waiting 20th Jan 2011.}}
{{Soxra|ienzo=Actually, [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Soxra/Lab/Kingdom_Hearts_Birth_by_Sleep_Final_Mix&action=history a lot of people] worked on it, and it was announced above for the public to make changes to, but very few people actually contributed.
Regardless, yes, the article is updated and unlocked, and will be the home of our info gathering mission until mid-January.|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=5:06am, December 14, 2010 (UTC)}}}}
== Obsolete refs ==
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<ref name="Famitsu">[http://www.famitsu.com/news/201010/15034744.html '''''Famitsu''': "In 'Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix', battle with a giant whale!"'' (Oct. 10, 2010)]</ref>
<ref name="Famitsu2">[http://www.famitsu.com/news/201011/27036272.html '''''Famitsu''': "Bonds which give birth to a new power, 'Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix'"'' (Nov. 27, 2010)]</ref>
</nowiki>
With the update of the main site, these refs are no longer needed for what they were doing. However, if you can find any more info in them, go ahead and use them.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:29, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
== Heartstation ==
{{Template:Asif|text=Heartstation just released a summary of an interview with Nomura stating details about BBSFM, including the story of the Secret Episode, and information on Armor of the Master and No Heart.  Should this be added to the page? The link can be found here: http://heartstation.org/archives/2555}}
{{Maggosh|nathan=Unfortunately, no. It has to be sourced from the interview itself, not fan translations.}}
== End of the World in Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep Final Mix ==
{{Organization 13|text=http://www.khdestiny.fr/img/img.php?img=Autres/news/120111-bbsfm-episode-secret-image.jpg}}
{{Chitalian8|time=14:27, January 12, 2011 (UTC)|cecil= It looks more like the World of Chaos to me.}}
{{KrytenKoro|It's neither. It's the Realm of Darkness, it's just that she gets to actually fight Pureblood Heartless in it.}}
==Secret Ending==
?????:--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 11:52, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
EDIT: THIS VIDEO REMOVED. AGAIN, WE WILL NOT BE EXPLOITING THEFT.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:46, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
Theft? The game is/was released today isn't it?--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 13:56, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, but that's the KH13 copy that was ripped from a stolen game, as I understand it. SE has having those videos taken down since they started popping up, so they should not be encouraged.
:There should be some legitimate videos popping up soon.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:10, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
Okay--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 15:56, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
== Gameicons on Game pages ==
{{LA|Vtext=I think the BBS FM gameicon in the corner of this page, and the other game articles with respective gameicons, are redundant. Is this for categorization, or something? Because it's a little obvious that "Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix" is a part of the game "Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix". I figured that the game gameicons were to be used in articles that are within the sphere of the game, excluding the game article itself.}}
:Either way makes sense to me. No, there is no categorization going on, because the gameicons are used with such lax standards already.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 22:26, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
== Secret Episode/Zero Point/Fragmenty Passage Annoyance ==
I'm really annoyed that so many people who haven't looked up the Secret Episode think that Zero Point is in fact a different game completely. I mean...if you go to Tvtropes they even have a page set up for it claiming that it is the second prequal to the original KH. Evnyofdeath 19:24, January 31, 2011 (UTC)
== CAPES ==
{{TobiasDeegan
|time=18:30, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
|text=Frame rate issues kept the capes from being in BBS and BBSFM... maybe we'll see them in 2.5 since the PS3 can handle it? That would be nice to see.
}}
{{KrytenKoro|They didn't even update the ending scenes and special videos for HD1, so I doubt we're going to get anything beyond a few new abilities.}}


== It's not a remake, it's a re-release. ==
== Illusion ==


{{NeutraVega| They're quite different, and I fail to see how you guys can even possibly confuse the two.}}
The word "Illusion" links to the page on the synthesis material, not to the set of commands that the article is actually talking about. However, there is no single page for those commands: there is a page for each individual Illusion command, and there is a disambiguation page that links to various things named "Illusion" (including, but not limited to, the relevant commands). Should the link be changed to point to the disambiguation page? Should we just list out each individual Illusion command on this page? [[Special:Contributions/153.33.74.21|153.33.74.21]] 23:01, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
{{ErryTalk|eziotext=It is a re-release in terms of the title, but is actually a remake within the game mechanics. It's not something like Re:coded and Re:Chain of Memories where they were altered to different consoles, but here it's heavily altered with new enemies, commands, music, etc.}}
Not a remake in terms of gameplay, gameplay is basically unchanged. It is basically an enhanced reissue of BBS.  --[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']] 18:05, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
{{LapisScarab|time=07:32, December 3, 2010 (UTC)|text=@Erry: What you just described is exactly what a remake is. The same basic storyline with updated graphics and gameplay, i.e. Re:CoM or Re:coded. BBSFM is an enhanced re-release; it's the same game, same gameplay, but with a few features added on top of the original.}}
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