Talk:Ansem the Wise: Difference between revisions

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:They don't change his whole wardrobe, because he's still wearing it. As for the beard, you can flatten stuff pretty fully when you wrap it down. Same way actors can wear a convincing bald wig. The skin color thing around his mouth - yes, that's different, but it's much more reasonable to chalk that up to Nomura fudging a detail to make it a "twist", rather than DiZ actually being physically different. All the other forms we cover in the games are physically different in nature - if it is visibly a change of clothes, there is still a prominent magical difference. Ribbons around the head just really don't achieve that meaningfulness.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 00:31, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
:They don't change his whole wardrobe, because he's still wearing it. As for the beard, you can flatten stuff pretty fully when you wrap it down. Same way actors can wear a convincing bald wig. The skin color thing around his mouth - yes, that's different, but it's much more reasonable to chalk that up to Nomura fudging a detail to make it a "twist", rather than DiZ actually being physically different. All the other forms we cover in the games are physically different in nature - if it is visibly a change of clothes, there is still a prominent magical difference. Ribbons around the head just really don't achieve that meaningfulness.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 00:31, April 27, 2010 (UTC)


{{NAB|time=00:59, April 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=I'm starting to get your point, but I'm nothing if not thruough so I'll just run the red smoke that comes off when he reveals himself to you, and can I just chalk up the no magic differece to the fact that you're ignoring (and I'll say it again) DIZ's liberal use of portals of darkness and changing himself into Ansem Seeker of Darkness? }}--
{{NAB|time=00:59, April 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=I'm starting to get your point, but I'm nothing if not thruough so I'll just run the red smoke that comes off when he reveals himself to you, and can I just chalk up the no magic differece to the fact that you're ignoring (and I'll say it again) DIZ's liberal use of portals of darkness and changing himself into Ansem Seeker of Darkness? }}
{{KrytenKoro|Ignoring? Not at all. There's simply no evidence that his magical nature ''changes''. Read what I said again.}}
{{KrytenKoro|Ignoring? Not at all. There's simply no evidence that his magical nature ''changes''. Read what I said again.}}


{{NAB|time=02:50, April 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=How many ways do I have to ask it then, explain how in the nine rings he was able to change into Ansem the Heartless and get around the relm of darkness without a nature change?}}--
{{NAB|time=02:50, April 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=How many ways do I have to ask it then, explain how in the nine rings he was able to change into Ansem the Heartless and get around the relm of darkness without a nature change?}}
May I remind people of the contents of Secret Ansem Report 6, which states: <blockquote>...I gained a newfound power.
A superhuman power—the power of darkness.
...With this new power, I uncovered a "corridor of darkness" that connects the realm of nothingness to the outside world...
To deceive Xehanort and my apprentices, I first used my power to change form before returning to the realm of light.
</blockquote>
He disguised himself with the power of darkness, but I don't think that counts as "changing his nature". --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 03:01, April 27, 2010 (UTC)


== his name ==
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