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{{DTN|time=08:26, November 7, 2010 (UTC)|text=I originally posted this on the [[Forum:Where will we go?|active forum]], but certain other discussions and matters drew attention away from. It is incredibly important that the community becomes aware of this possibility for our wiki, since it has now drawn the attention, interest, and support of three wikis: this one, the FFWiki, and Chronopedia. For the sake of having little else to say, I'm going to repost my message pertaining to the forming of a Square Enix portal, with a few revisions:
{{DTN|time=08:26, November 7, 2010 (UTC)|text=I originally posted this on the [[Forum:Where will we go?|active forum]], but certain other discussions and matters drew attention away from. It is incredibly important that the community becomes aware of this possibility for our wiki, since it has now drawn the attention, interest, and support of three wikis: this one, the FFWiki, and Chronopedia. For the sake of having little else to say, I'm going to repost my message pertaining to the forming of a Square Enix portal, with a few revisions:
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{{neumannz|time=14:58, November 7, 2010 (UTC)|text=I also fully support this idea. It seems like an obvious choice--well, despite the fact that almost nobody had thought of it on their own...}}
{{neumannz|time=14:58, November 7, 2010 (UTC)|text=I also fully support this idea. It seems like an obvious choice--well, despite the fact that almost nobody had thought of it on their own...}}
{{KrytenKoro|ScatheMote, I have seen at least two comments in our forums from people who said they made an account on wikia just to complain about the skin. The new sites could very well have Oasis as well, for those who want it, they just won't be mandatory. A big part of this is not just the negative effects of the skin (such as on [[Dimension Link]]), but also wikia's consistent attitude of forcing all the wikis to accommodate ''their'' whims, rather than allowing us the freedom to choose.}}
{{KrytenKoro|ScatheMote, I have seen at least two comments in our forums from people who said they made an account on wikia just to complain about the skin. The new sites could very well have Oasis as well, for those who want it, they just won't be mandatory. A big part of this is not just the negative effects of the skin (such as on [[Dimension Link]]), but also wikia's consistent attitude of forcing all the wikis to accommodate ''their'' whims, rather than allowing us the freedom to choose.}}
[[w:c:square]]. Just want to add the "Square Enix" wiki to your attention. The thing that, in a sense, parents both FFWiki and KHWiki. [[Special:Contributions/80.42.254.253|80.42.254.253]] 16:33, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
[[wikia:square]]. Just want to add the "Square Enix" wiki to your attention. The thing that, in a sense, parents both FFWiki and KHWiki. [[Special:Contributions/80.42.254.253|80.42.254.253]] 16:33, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
:Hello Everyone. My name is Budd0011 here on Wikia, and Tacopill on NIWA. I'm the original poster of the thread SilverCrono linked to above. It is very nice to meet everyone. [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 16:54, November 7, 2010 (UTC).
:Hello Everyone. My name is Budd0011 here on Wikia, and Tacopill on NIWA. I'm the original poster of the thread SilverCrono linked to above. It is very nice to meet everyone. [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 16:54, November 7, 2010 (UTC).
EDIT CONFLICT: Okay no one edit until I made my message. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 17:11, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
EDIT CONFLICT: Okay no one edit until I made my message. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 17:11, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
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{{KrytenKoro|After I get some passporty stuff done tonight, I'm going to start the installation at wikkii. The cool thing about wikkii is that we can give our new site any address we want, and khwiki.net was approved in the previous forum. This portal - would we have to host our wiki on the same servers? Or is it more like a more intimate affiliation? I'd really like to discuss this in person, so it would be great if all the staff of the various wikis interested in forming this could meet on the irc, at #SEIWA, sometime this week. I'm free any evening after 5:00 EST, but I think Tuesday would work best for me.}}
{{KrytenKoro|After I get some passporty stuff done tonight, I'm going to start the installation at wikkii. The cool thing about wikkii is that we can give our new site any address we want, and khwiki.net was approved in the previous forum. This portal - would we have to host our wiki on the same servers? Or is it more like a more intimate affiliation? I'd really like to discuss this in person, so it would be great if all the staff of the various wikis interested in forming this could meet on the irc, at #SEIWA, sometime this week. I'm free any evening after 5:00 EST, but I think Tuesday would work best for me.}}
:Do you mind if i join the conversation? [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 22:07, November 8, 2010 (UTC).
:Do you mind if i join the conversation? [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 22:07, November 8, 2010 (UTC).
::Since you are our connection to NIWA I don't see why not.
::One thing: This group can't be SIWA, Siwa is an OASIS in Egypt. '''<font color="#483d8b">◄</font> <font color="#8a2be2">[[User:OavatosDK|Θάν]][[User talk:OavatosDK|ατ]][[Special:Contributions/OavatosDK|ος]]</font> <font color="#483d8b">►</font>''' 06:59, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
:::Sweet. How do i connect to #SEIWA? i am still new to the irc thing. I'm more familar with skype, aim and the like. Sorry for my noob-ish-ness. [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 07:09, November 9, 2010 (UTC).
::::I think I'm right in saying you can just head to http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=SEIWA, and choose a nickname to sign in with. [[User:Adamcox82|Adam]] <sup>([[User talk:Adamcox82|talk]])</sup> 21:11, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
:::::Sounds good, and Thank you. I am in the chat now. [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 21:38, November 9, 2010 (UTC).
::::::Alterantively, if anyone has a skype, i will also be on there with the username "tacopill". [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 22:33, November 9, 2010 (UTC).
== Domain name ==
Was talking with Zyeriis and Crono on the SEIWA irc, and after checking with the domain name register, found out seiwaportal.org is avalible. Here's what i recommend it standing for: '''S'''quare '''E'''nix '''I'''ndependent '''W'''iki '''A'''lliance, and "portal" coming from this thread's name. Does this work for everyone? [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 23:47, November 10, 2010 (UTC).
:Works for teh Crono. --{{SilverCrono/Sig}} 00:04, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
::We were planning on using khwiki.net for the individual site, though.[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 00:26, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
:::You mean, not have a central site, independent of the wiki's? [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 00:39, November 11, 2010 (UTC).
::I don't quite understand what the domain bit entails, but for the html of the KH wiki itself, we wanted to use khwiki.net (so that pages would be khwiki.net/wiki/Sora, etc.)[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 00:43, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
:::My idea behind it is this: The domain would serve as the primary address of the portal's main site, independent of any wiki's. Similar to how http://www.niwanetwork.org/ represnets niwa itself, not one of it's wikis. [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 00:50, November 11, 2010 (UTC).
So, basically an ideal situation would be that the SE Wikia Wiki would be simplified into the portal, and then link out to all of the game wikis?  {{The Inexistentsig}}
:If you wish to do that, you can. Also, some other options that exist include:
:# make SE Wiki the central site of the portal, or
:# have a main site, and a wiki that's a subsection of it.
:The choice is yours. Specifically, With the wiki, you could put in a link that says "For more in-depth information, see ________ Wiki" on each game/anime page. [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 03:16, November 11, 2010 (UTC).
That's what I was thinking.  But, I also have another question.  What are we supposed to do with all the tiny SE Wikis that may want to join?  Like the Due Wiki.  Heck, the FMA Wiki isn't really all that big to begin with, either.  {{The Inexistentsig}}
:Well, can they be grouped together in anyway? and are any of them smaller than [http://grifkuba.org/MotherEarthBoundWiki/index.php?title=WikiBound WikiBound]? [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 22:49, November 11, 2010 (UTC).
==SEIWA ROUNDTABLE==
*Part One: http://pastebin.com/hSyTmcMG
** [http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=527 Related to what we were talking about] [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 03:27, November 11, 2010 (UTC).
** Just had an conversation with [[finalfantasy:User:Some_Color_Mage|SomeColorMage of FFWiki]]. See [http://pastebin.com/Ydt6nu0J This page for the chat log]. [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 08:56, November 12, 2010 (UTC).
** [http://pastebin.com/9Zks9FwT Conversation between Myself, Zyeriis, Chocolancer, DTN and Xizor] (Although, not all at the same time).
== Propsed Plan ==
Here is a plan i think would work well for SEIWA, based on input i got from SomeColorMage, Chocolancer and Zyerillis. Please Tell me what you think.
# KH is revoting to go indy or to Wikkii (pending admin approval)
# if in #1 goes indy, then FF will see if there users and contributors are up for it.
#*a) FFXIV Wiki wants to do this as well (go indy) to support the SEIWA idea (and to leave Wikia in general)
#*b) if FFWiki goes, Chocolancer hope Sardapedia also does as well
# If both #1 and #2 succeed, then SEIWA will be launched. The_Inexistiend hopes to use the Square Wikia as a hub once it goes indy. I recommend getting forums.
# they start building an infastructure and one by one wikia's are brought to an independent server and asked on the SEIWA forums for help
#*a) I think the FFXI wiki users can help here
#*b) Example: we go out once a month (let's say) grab a wiki, get it independent, put it on the forums and try and attract contribtors
# once the former Wikia or new wiki is ready, it is brought in as a member
# #4 and #5 are repeated for each SE-related wiki on Wikia or started up by it's members
== Possible Inter-IWA group ==
{{Bud0011|time=[[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 04:57, December 4, 2010 (UTC)|text=Hey guys. Archaic - one of the Founders of NIWA, and the Webmaster of of Bulbapedia - has posted an idea i think you guys would be interested in. The link to the idea is [http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=614.0 Here]. Please Tell me what you think. }}
==Candidates==
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*Kingdom Hearts Wiki (currently http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com)
*Final Fantasy Wiki (currently http://finalfantasy.wikia.com)
*Final Fantasy XI Wiki (currently http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org)
*Final Fantasy XIV Wiki (currently http://ffxiv.wikia.com)
*Just Cause Wiki (http://justcause.wikia.com)
*Deus Ex Wiki (http://deusex.wikia.com)
*All Star Pro-Wrestling (?)
*Front Mission (http://frontmission.wikia.com/wiki/Front_Mission_Wiki)
*Hanjuku Hero (?)
*Mana (http://mana.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki_of_Mana)
*Song Summoner (http://songsummoner.wikia.com/wiki/Song_Summoner_the_Unsung_Heroes_Wiki)
*Tomb Raider (?)
*Hitman (http://hitman.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page)
*Square Enix Wiki (http://square.wikia.com/wiki/Squarewiki)
*Eidos Wiki (?)
*Fantasy Earth (http://fantasyearthzero.wikia.com/wiki/Fantasy_Earth_Zero_Wiki)
*Star Ocean (http://starocean.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Ocean_Wiki)
*Black God (?)
*Papuwa (?)
*Pani Poni (http://paniponidash.wikia.com/wiki/Pani_Poni_Dash_Wiki)
*Spiral (http://spiralsuirinokizuna.wikia.com/wiki/Spiral:Suiri_no_Kizuna_Wiki)
*He is My Master (?)
*Yumekui Kenbun (?)
*Doubt (?)
*Bamboo Blade (http://bambooblade.wikia.com/wiki/Bamboo_Blade_Wiki)
*Pandora Hearts (http://pandorahearts.wikia.com/wiki/Pandora_Hearts_Wiki)
*Black Butler (http://kuroshitsuji.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page)
*Soul Eater (http://souleater.wikia.com)
*Zombie Loan (?)
*Fullmetal Alchemist (http://fma.wikia.com)
*Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (http://whentheycry.wikia.com/wiki/Higurashi_no_Naku_Koro_Ni_Wiki)
*The World Ends with You (http://twewy.wikia.com)
=== Currently Independ Wikis ===
* Tomb Raider (http://wikiraider.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
* Dragon Quest (http://www.dragon-quest.org/wiki/Main_Page)
=== Related possible wiki's ===
* [http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page StrategyWiki]
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