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{{Forumheader|The World that Never was | {{Forumheader|The Realm of Sleep|The World that Never was}} | ||
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For the rest... yes, I know it's pretty different. A big change for everyone. But one thing I'd like to say is that this is a work in progress. We are still working on changes as we get feedback and start to give information from click-tracking and so on. One thing we are looking at is a special unit that could take infoboxes in to the right column. And we are looking at how to better handle big tables. It's worth remembering that if they are too big for the new layout, they are ''already'' broken for many screen resolutions... but we are talking about some other solutions that may help. | For the rest... yes, I know it's pretty different. A big change for everyone. But one thing I'd like to say is that this is a work in progress. We are still working on changes as we get feedback and start to give information from click-tracking and so on. One thing we are looking at is a special unit that could take infoboxes in to the right column. And we are looking at how to better handle big tables. It's worth remembering that if they are too big for the new layout, they are ''already'' broken for many screen resolutions... but we are talking about some other solutions that may help. | ||
And the last thing I want to encourage, is for admins to try customizing the wiki. The blue and white look is the default (like the old "sapphire") but you can make it look very different. Have a look at [[ | And the last thing I want to encourage, is for admins to try customizing the wiki. The blue and white look is the default (like the old "sapphire") but you can make it look very different. Have a look at [[wikia:communitytest|Community Test]], or anyone can try out the tool at [[wikia:themedesigner|themedesigner.wikia]] (even if you aren't an admin). I know this doesn't resolve all your worries, but I hope you'll try it anyway}} | ||
Yeah, but there's the thing. You ask for feedback, and we give it. What is the common response? '''Make it an option'''. Do yoy listen? I think you know the answer. {{The Inexistentsig}} | Yeah, but there's the thing. You ask for feedback, and we give it. What is the common response? '''Make it an option'''. Do yoy listen? I think you know the answer. {{The Inexistentsig}} | ||
[[File:Prt 2.png|300px]] - So, yeah. I only had like 10 minutes to make this, but I'll update it <small>hopefully...</small>. Mainly, it is exactly what Monaco is right now, which is the point. If we were to found our own site, I would recommend use of the MediaWiki software. I was also thinking (but didn't have time to) that we could have the background banner go all of the way to the bottom of the screen. So... anyone can update the file to what they think it should look like... {{The Inexistentsig}} | <!--[[File:Prt 2.png|300px]]--> - So, yeah. I only had like 10 minutes to make this, but I'll update it <small>hopefully...</small>. Mainly, it is exactly what Monaco is right now, which is the point. If we were to found our own site, I would recommend use of the MediaWiki software. I was also thinking (but didn't have time to) that we could have the background banner go all of the way to the bottom of the screen. So... anyone can update the file to what they think it should look like... {{The Inexistentsig}} | ||
{{KKD|time=01:11, October 13, 2010 (UTC)|link=I really hate to say this, guys, but I don't think we should leave as soon as the new look is implemented, if at all. I think we should give them one month, starting November 3rd. If everything still sucks come December, we leave, no questions asked. Not that I like the new skin at all, but we may as well give them a chance. A small one, but a chance.}} | {{KKD|time=01:11, October 13, 2010 (UTC)|link=I really hate to say this, guys, but I don't think we should leave as soon as the new look is implemented, if at all. I think we should give them one month, starting November 3rd. If everything still sucks come December, we leave, no questions asked. Not that I like the new skin at all, but we may as well give them a chance. A small one, but a chance.}} | ||
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It makes the wiki almost unusable for me. also it's not in the screenshot but the words WikiaWikiaWikiaWikiaWikia are repeated at the top of the screen.}} | It makes the wiki almost unusable for me. also it's not in the screenshot but the words WikiaWikiaWikiaWikiaWikia are repeated at the top of the screen.}} | ||
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#Old wiki: As you can read [http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Moving_Forward here], the old KHwiki will stay here the same way we leave it, deleting pages, even it it's the will of all editors and admins, will be considerd as vandalism by the Wikia staff and reverted. So there will be basically two wikis, which kind of misses the point of moving and is an insult to all editors on top.}} | #Old wiki: As you can read [http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Moving_Forward here], the old KHwiki will stay here the same way we leave it, deleting pages, even it it's the will of all editors and admins, will be considerd as vandalism by the Wikia staff and reverted. So there will be basically two wikis, which kind of misses the point of moving and is an insult to all editors on top.}} | ||
{{ | {{17m|text= Okay, I opened the KHWiki and the new skin is suddenly applied, like, automatically. Does this happen to everyone?}} | ||
{{Kog981|text= I can't take any more this new skin, just looking at some pages like Sora or BBS, that's creepy me out. | {{Kog981|text= I can't take any more this new skin, just looking at some pages like Sora or BBS, that's creepy me out. | ||
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Eh... You guys decide to move? With everything you guys done?}} | Eh... You guys decide to move? With everything you guys done?}} | ||
{{Uxie|time=13:03, October 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=Grr, [[ | {{Uxie|time=13:03, October 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=Grr, [[finalfantasy:Wakka|now I'm mad]]! This skin has ruined this wiki, and the SW! | ||
Now that the new skin is up and running, I have decided to move the Spyro Wiki to ShoutWiki. If anyone wants to join us, be my guest!}} | Now that the new skin is up and running, I have decided to move the Spyro Wiki to ShoutWiki. If anyone wants to join us, be my guest!}} | ||
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{{KrytenKoro|Re:Shard - I'm very interested to know who WoWwiki is moving to, because if they can handle WoWwiki, they can absolutely handle us. | {{KrytenKoro|Re:Shard - I'm very interested to know who WoWwiki is moving to, because if they can handle WoWwiki, they can absolutely handle us. | ||
As for the old wiki concern - as long as the top-content producing editors move along with the wiki, that will cease to be a concern pretty soon. As you can see with [[ | As for the old wiki concern - as long as the top-content producing editors move along with the wiki, that will cease to be a concern pretty soon. As you can see with [[wikia:transformers|the transformers wiki]], the wikia version quickly fell into the rubbish bin when the top editors moved away and left the old address to anyone who wanted it. Yes, Google favors wikia and wikipedia, but only to an extent, and once we make our site the premier place (and keep up our affiliations, very important!), we will replace them. We could even go further by seeking out affiliations with other KH-related sites, including webcomics (ex: Ansem Retort).}} | ||
{{KrytenKoro|Also - to circumvent the "advertising" concern - when we move, we should not post "Hey, come to our new address". We should post something along the lines of "The previous editors of this wiki have moved to a new address, (link). Anyone visiting this site is free to to edit it as they wish and build their own community, or may join the previous community at its new location. If you would like to inquire about obtaining staff rights, please contact (wikia staff member<!-- whose inbox we want to swamp-->). This notice will be removed (three months later)." That cannot be construed as advertising the new site - it is merely stating where everyone has gone, and if anything advertises the ''current site'' - | {{KrytenKoro|Also - to circumvent the "advertising" concern - when we move, we should not post "Hey, come to our new address". We should post something along the lines of "The previous editors of this wiki have moved to a new address, (link). Anyone visiting this site is free to to edit it as they wish and build their own community, or may join the previous community at its new location. If you would like to inquire about obtaining staff rights, please contact (wikia staff member<!-- whose inbox we want to swamp-->). This notice will be removed (three months later)." That cannot be construed as advertising the new site - it is merely stating where everyone has gone, and if anything advertises the ''current site'' - | ||
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{{KrytenKoro|text=Also, Sannse, [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Azul81677&curid=3807&diff=416440&oldid=411854 this] might explain why you guys are getting more "clicks" with the new ToC.}} | {{KrytenKoro|text=Also, Sannse, [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Azul81677&curid=3807&diff=416440&oldid=411854 this] might explain why you guys are getting more "clicks" with the new ToC.}} | ||
Okay, I read Sarah's blog about [[ | Okay, I read Sarah's blog about [[wikia:Community:User blog:Sarah Manley/Improving Accessibility on Wikia|the new look]] and I found out that while Monaco is being thrown away, they are keeping Monobook! Looks like they aren't forcing their shit in our faces after all! Either, they responded to the hate mail or they didn't tell us they were keeping Monobook, leading us to the conclusion that monobook is gone as well, scaring us to death. Anyway, monobook is back! [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 21:24, October 26, 2010 (UTC) | ||
{{SannseTalk|time=00:58, October 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=Sorry all, I couldn't get online as much as I wanted this weekend >_< I'm catching up now. | {{SannseTalk|time=00:58, October 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=Sorry all, I couldn't get online as much as I wanted this weekend >_< I'm catching up now. | ||
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As said, do what you want--but there's the bigger picture.|time=<span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span>]][[User_talk:Soxra|<span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span>]][[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 17:09, November 3, 2010 (UTC)}} | As said, do what you want--but there's the bigger picture.|time=<span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span>]][[User_talk:Soxra|<span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span>]][[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 17:09, November 3, 2010 (UTC)}} | ||
Actually the screen looks fine on all the computers i use, whether its my school, home, or laptop computers...maybe the problem just is with ur guys' computers? Idk, i'm just not sure why my computer looks fine with the new skin while all of urs dont... --Jacobmirror 14:31, November 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
{{TNE|time=20:32, November 6, 2010 (UTC)|angrytext=an Ankou is back, but only momentarily. | |||
One reason why I became inactive is because of my dissertation. '''The other is the new Wikia skin.''' I'm now implementing it on KHFR under my Prefs simply because newer users will automatically get this skin. But TBH, a lot of templates, including the Game template, have been really messed up, and to foul things up so bad requires a bad decision on someone's part. Now, we did everything we could reasonably do, and if it's still bad, it comes from : | |||
#Bad implementation. | |||
#Bad implementation. | |||
#<big>Bad implementation.</big> | |||
I've been trying to hold the Wikia Oasis edit window down for the last couple of minutes but everytime I do so, it keeps moving upwards. This problem was less frequent under Monaco, and though I haven't tried Monobook, I already have begun to have the impression that the new skin needs some serious reqorking, if it cannot be scrapped. | |||
Now, whilst I know everyone's doing his work, this is a serious tactical error where Wikia is concerned. I've already given my 2p for the skin in the past ; I'm just reiterating what I've said based on experience.}} | |||