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* [[Talk:Roxas/Archive 1|Archive 1]] - September 8, 2010 | * [[Talk:Roxas/Archive 1|Archive 1]] - September 8, 2010 | ||
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== Roxas Dual Wielding (Xion's Keyblade Not Ventus's) == | == Roxas Dual Wielding (Xion's Keyblade Not Ventus's) == | ||
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{{LA|Vtext=I agree, iZerox. After all, Ventus doesn't wield Kingdom Key. | {{LA|Vtext=I agree, iZerox. After all, Ventus doesn't wield Kingdom Key. | ||
As for Nomura's confirmation, we also can't forget [[Talk: | As for Nomura's confirmation, we also can't forget [[Talk:Bequeathing#Inheritance?|Kryten's Wall o' text battleship]] that underlines how inconsistent Nomura is with Keyblade possession. But go figure.}} | ||
Hey how everybody doin! | Hey how everybody doin! | ||
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:::As a reminder to all the recurring editors involved: long-standing wiki-policy is that information should not be placed in trivia unless absolutely necessary. If a relevant section on the article ''can'' be found, the info ''must'' be placed there. Information about the design of a character in a piece of official material falls under the Design header, ergo it is a violation of policy to move the material to the Trivia section -- as I've explained several times, including directly to the IP. Policy is also that in the event of an edit war, the article should be reverted to its ''pre''-edit war state, and that consensus should be derived based on wiki ''policies'', not on personal preferences. It's pretty troubling that this issue has even gotten to this point, as there are a multitude of wiki policies that should have been followed preventing this, and that the previous consensus discussed earlier in the article, with clear references to wiki policy by trusted users, appears to have been wholly ignored.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 12:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC) | :::As a reminder to all the recurring editors involved: long-standing wiki-policy is that information should not be placed in trivia unless absolutely necessary. If a relevant section on the article ''can'' be found, the info ''must'' be placed there. Information about the design of a character in a piece of official material falls under the Design header, ergo it is a violation of policy to move the material to the Trivia section -- as I've explained several times, including directly to the IP. Policy is also that in the event of an edit war, the article should be reverted to its ''pre''-edit war state, and that consensus should be derived based on wiki ''policies'', not on personal preferences. It's pretty troubling that this issue has even gotten to this point, as there are a multitude of wiki policies that should have been followed preventing this, and that the previous consensus discussed earlier in the article, with clear references to wiki policy by trusted users, appears to have been wholly ignored.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 12:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC) | ||
::::No policy, no matter what how old it is or how significant it may have once been, should trump the consensus reached by the community in the present day. The Kingdom Hearts Wiki is written and run by its editors and contributors, not its policies and procedures. | ::::No policy, no matter what how old it is or how significant it may have once been, should trump the consensus reached by the community in the present day. The Kingdom Hearts Wiki is written and run by its editors and contributors, not its policies and procedures. | ||
::::Having said that, you've cited many different policies in your argument, and have explicitly called the staff out for failing to uphold them in favor of a "non-consensus-demonstrated version" of the page. So I'll bite. Your post (including your [https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk%3ARoxas&type=revision&diff=784326&oldid=784288 previous post, which you significantly altered and removed content from], in violation of [[Help: | ::::Having said that, you've cited many different policies in your argument, and have explicitly called the staff out for failing to uphold them in favor of a "non-consensus-demonstrated version" of the page. So I'll bite. Your post (including your [https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk%3ARoxas&type=revision&diff=784326&oldid=784288 previous post, which you significantly altered and removed content from], in violation of [[Help:New user guide#Article_Talk_Pages|site policies]]) boils down to at least four matters of policy: what qualifies as trivia, what the "Appearance" section of a character article's page covers, whether there is a policy on notability, and what the Kingdom Hearts Wiki's scope covers. I throw in here my once-a-year-or-more plug that, because many of our policies are not written down somewhere easily-findable, we ought to do something to make them more easily referenceable so that new editors can become familiar with them, rather than belittle them when they make repeated edits that violate a heretofore unfindable policy. | ||
::::'''What qualifies as trivia?''': Only the [[KHWiki:Manual of Style#Trivia|Manual of Style]] defines trivia. It is defined as "information that is not significant or vital to either the game or gameplay, does not fit in other places of the article, and is of interest to note. Examples include seemingly unintentional recurrences, real-world references, or seemingly unintentional but marked similarities between two subjects. Trivia must be true and verified; neither speculation nor opinion-based conjectures are trivia." It's also of interest, in my search today through the wiki archives (for which I'm now very dusty, thank you), that [[Forum:Wiki Improvement|you once defined trivia]] as "notable oddities and uniqueness, as well as purposeful references". Whether this artwork counts as trivia is up for debate: it is not vital or significant to either the game or gameplay, and it is odd and unique. But it could potentially fit in another place in the article, namely, the "Appearance section. | ::::'''What qualifies as trivia?''': Only the [[KHWiki:Manual of Style#Trivia|Manual of Style]] defines trivia. It is defined as "information that is not significant or vital to either the game or gameplay, does not fit in other places of the article, and is of interest to note. Examples include seemingly unintentional recurrences, real-world references, or seemingly unintentional but marked similarities between two subjects. Trivia must be true and verified; neither speculation nor opinion-based conjectures are trivia." It's also of interest, in my search today through the wiki archives (for which I'm now very dusty, thank you), that [[Forum:Wiki Improvement|you once defined trivia]] as "notable oddities and uniqueness, as well as purposeful references". Whether this artwork counts as trivia is up for debate: it is not vital or significant to either the game or gameplay, and it is odd and unique. But it could potentially fit in another place in the article, namely, the "Appearance section. | ||
::::'''What does the "Appearance" section cover?''': Again, we refer to the Manual of Style, which states: "Explain the character's physical appearance". Pretty straight forward. This would be considered describing Roxas's physical appearance in a single piece of artwork. | ::::'''What does the "Appearance" section cover?''': Again, we refer to the Manual of Style, which states: "Explain the character's physical appearance". Pretty straight forward. This would be considered describing Roxas's physical appearance in a single piece of artwork. | ||
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== All these years since KH2, but just noticed this. == | == All these years since KH2, but just noticed this. == | ||
Has anyone made note of Roxas's idle model. Unlike Ventus or Sora, who stand perfectly semetrical, Roxas does not. Pay close attention. Roxas's left foot is always to his side, just a bit. And his posture is slightly tilted to the | Has anyone made note of Roxas's idle model. Unlike Ventus or Sora, who stand perfectly semetrical, Roxas does not. Pay close attention. Roxas's left foot is always to his side, just a bit. And his posture is slightly tilted to the left as well. The only time Roxas stands balanced is when wielding keyblades. ([[Special:Contributions/174.198.10.203|174.198.10.203]] 08:32, 21 November 2019 (UTC)) | ||
:And the significance of this....is? --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 16:10, 21 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Abilities == | |||
Shouldn't there be a note that unlike Sora, who has constantly had his powers reset, Roxas has not; thus his combat skills represent what Sora could be if he retained all his abilities from the other games. It explains why he is so powerful in Kingdom Hearts 3. Since Roxas never lost his powers, only the memory of how to use them, logically doesn't this mean he's more power up than Sora?([[Special:Contributions/174.197.0.88|174.197.0.88]] 08:40, 1 December 2019 (UTC)) | |||
:Besides the Keyblade, Roxas doesn't really borrow powers/abilities from Sora so I wouldn't say that Roxas is just Sora if Sora never got his power reset. As for if Roxas is more powerful than Sora, that's up to interpretation more than anything (unless nomura outright states that he is in which case that'd be noteworthy) but that goes for power levels in general. Is Donald Duck more powerful than Terra-Xehanort and X-Blade Master Xehanort because he can use Zettaflare and fire an über friendship laser? I don't know but since it's not a set-in-stone fact whether he is or not I couldn't really put it on a wiki page as if it were. [[User:Pureautism|Pureautism]] ([[User talk:Pureautism|talk]]) 09:14, 1 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Roxas on Destiny Islands == | |||
In Days, there's a shot of Roxas leaving the Destiny Islands through a Corridor of Darkness after Xion passes out in Riku's arms (https://youtu.be/mY6kflxFbek?t=5885), but it's not mentioned on his page. Shouldn't it be added? I know what we thought was Roxas at first was really Xion, but I'm pretty sure he was there too, considering we see him leave, and then he tells Axel in the scene afterward he visited the beach. --[[File:Riku Sprite KHD.png]] [[User:Mikoto|mikoto]] 02:40, 6 February 2023 (UTC) | |||