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All of this seems right, except that I'm missing the bounty for Traverse Town, and I'm not sure whether it's Shock Impact, or if that's the second treasure from Atlantica (though the second treasures were removed in Re:CoM, so maybe it's the second treasure in CoM and the Traverse Town treasure in Re:CoM. But that still leaves the Traverse Town treasure in CoM).[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 21:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
All of this seems right, except that I'm missing the bounty for Traverse Town, and I'm not sure whether it's Shock Impact, or if that's the second treasure from Atlantica (though the second treasures were removed in Re:CoM, so maybe it's the second treasure in CoM and the Traverse Town treasure in Re:CoM. But that still leaves the Traverse Town treasure in CoM).[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 21:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


{{troisnyxetienne|text=You almost forgot one thing : Diamond Dust appears in the Calm Bounty in Castle Oblivion after defeating Marluxia for the first time.}}
{{TNE|text=You almost forgot one thing : Diamond Dust appears in the Calm Bounty in Castle Oblivion after defeating Marluxia for the first time.}}
:FIRST time, Ok. Yeah, that would explain it. Doe sit have to be CO, though?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 06:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:FIRST time, Ok. Yeah, that would explain it. Doe sit have to be CO, though?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 06:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


{{troisnyxetienne|text=CO ? Huh - what're you getting at ?
{{TNE|text=CO ? Huh - what're you getting at ?


Meanwhile, I checked Re:Chain of Memories (as per the Japanese version which came along with Final Mix+). I last went into a Rewards Room and after I exited the room, it was blanked out of the map. Same went for  
Meanwhile, I checked Re:Chain of Memories (as per the Japanese version which came along with Final Mix+). I last went into a Rewards Room and after I exited the room, it was blanked out of the map. Same went for  
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:That is ''very'' strange. They definitely are permanent on my game, and it makes sense - how would you get the Set 2 treasures if the rooms disappear for good? This may be a difference between the English and Japanese versions, then.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 16:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:That is ''very'' strange. They definitely are permanent on my game, and it makes sense - how would you get the Set 2 treasures if the rooms disappear for good? This may be a difference between the English and Japanese versions, then.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 16:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


{{troisnyxetienne|text=Okay, from what you tell me, there are differences. Yes, Castle Oblivion has OWA and Diamond Dust.
{{TNE|text=Okay, from what you tell me, there are differences. Yes, Castle Oblivion has OWA and Diamond Dust.


How the treasures are accessed is simple (at least for the Japanese version, I'm not sure about the English one) - if you have a Final Mix+ save file, both treasure chests appear in the Room of Rewards. And after both treasures are opened(usually in one go), exit the room - and it disappears from the map.
How the treasures are accessed is simple (at least for the Japanese version, I'm not sure about the English one) - if you have a Final Mix+ save file, both treasure chests appear in the Room of Rewards. And after both treasures are opened(usually in one go), exit the room - and it disappears from the map.
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{{KrytenKoro|Okay, the OWA and DD don't work like other Bounties, since you can get them from the shop before you find them in a chest, so I think they're just like other Keychains. UW, however, has to be taken from a Calm Bounty, and I think that's in Castle Oblivion only (or at least, for the automatic one).}}
{{KrytenKoro|Okay, the OWA and DD don't work like other Bounties, since you can get them from the shop before you find them in a chest, so I think they're just like other Keychains. UW, however, has to be taken from a Calm Bounty, and I think that's in Castle Oblivion only (or at least, for the automatic one).}}


{{troisnyxetienne-blah|text=Strangely enough, I've scoured all the Moogle Shops in Re:Chain of Memories but there hasn't been a single OWA or DD card. :-(}}
{{TNE|blahtext=Strangely enough, I've scoured all the Moogle Shops in Re:Chain of Memories but there hasn't been a single OWA or DD card. :-(}}


== mingling worlds ==
== mingling worlds ==
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: reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5WvVui6KE4 -- start watching at 6:30  --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 03:04, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
: reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5WvVui6KE4 -- start watching at 6:30  --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 03:04, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


{{troisnyxetienne-blah|text=I played Re:Chain - Sora's story, albeit the Japanese version and all I have to say is this : Whoever said that '''Mingling Worlds''' never existed in Sora's story needs a kick in his derrière. What I meant, by putting that sentence, is that '''Mingling Worlds''', '''Random Joker''' and '''Moment's Reprieve''' exist in BOTH Sora's and Riku's stories, but the treasure chest cards are only to be found in Sora's story.
{{TNE|blahtext=I played Re:Chain - Sora's story, albeit the Japanese version and all I have to say is this : Whoever said that '''Mingling Worlds''' never existed in Sora's story needs a kick in his derrière. What I meant, by putting that sentence, is that '''Mingling Worlds''', '''Random Joker''' and '''Moment's Reprieve''' exist in BOTH Sora's and Riku's stories, but the treasure chest cards are only to be found in Sora's story.


All cards from Riku's story do exist in Sora's story, but the converse isn't true.}}
All cards from Riku's story do exist in Sora's story, but the converse isn't true.}}
{{KrytenKoro|'cept Darkball, in Re:CoM}}
{{KrytenKoro|'cept Darkball, in Re:CoM}}


{{troisnyxetienne-merci|text=Oh yes. Thank you, Kryten. ^_^}}
{{TNE|remerciement=Oh yes. Thank you, Kryten. ^_^}}


==Room of Rewards==
==Room of Rewards==
{{troisnyxetienne|text=Set 2 chests are obtained after completing '''Sora's Story''' or '''Reverse/Rebirth''' ? Everywhere else, it says Reverse/Rebirth, while for Map Cards, it says Sora's Story.
{{TNE|text=Set 2 chests are obtained after completing '''Sora's Story''' or '''Reverse/Rebirth''' ? Everywhere else, it says Reverse/Rebirth, while for Map Cards, it says Sora's Story.


(Oh well, at least this doesn't apply to the version of Re:Chain which I'm using.)}}
(Oh well, at least this doesn't apply to the version of Re:Chain which I'm using.)}}
{{KrytenKoro|I was able to get them as soon as I defeated Marluxia, but I also had a KH2 save on my memory card; that might have affected it.}}
{{KrytenKoro|I was able to get them as soon as I defeated Marluxia, but I also had a KH2 save on my memory card; that might have affected it.}}


{{troisnyxetienne|text=As soon as you defeated '''which''' Marluxia ? Angelic ?
{{TNE|text=As soon as you defeated '''which''' Marluxia ? Angelic ?


(That'd mean there's a vast difference between the two versions of Re:Chain, as I managed to obtain all the Room of Rewards treasures before approaching Marluxia.)}}
(That'd mean there's a vast difference between the two versions of Re:Chain, as I managed to obtain all the Room of Rewards treasures before approaching Marluxia.)}}
{{KrytenKoro|Angelic? I guess. The Cherry Shinigami one. I had the gold card.}}
{{KrytenKoro|Angelic? I guess. The Cherry Shinigami one. I had the gold card.}}


{{troisnyxetienne|text=Yep, that's just it. Which means the English Re:Chain and the Japanese Re:Chain have rather vast differences.}}
{{TNE|text=Yep, that's just it. Which means the English Re:Chain and the Japanese Re:Chain have rather vast differences.}}
 
{{Maggosh|text=So is there any concrete method to obtaining a Key to Rewards card?}}
{{TNE|time=00:50, December 6, 2009 (UTC)|noel=Not quite. But what I did was this : I obtained the majority of my Keys to Rewards in Neverland during normal fights. Instead of normal map cards or enemy cards, I got KTRs at a regular basis.}}


==Conqueror's Respite==
==Conqueror's Respite==
{{troisnyxetienne|text=Gah, I think this is the most active of all talk pages as of yet !
{{TNE|text=Gah, I think this is the most active of all talk pages as of yet !


Anyway. Conqueror's Respite can only be accessed once, can't it ? (I mean, of course, before advancing to the next floor we can save and all...)}}
Anyway. Conqueror's Respite can only be accessed once, can't it ? (I mean, of course, before advancing to the next floor we can save and all...)}}
{{KrytenKoro|If you go downstairs instead of upstairs to get into a world, the Respite is still there. It doesn't automatically unlock when you reenter a world from the front, even though it's there; so when you open the door to it, you overwrite it. But if you come from behind, it's still there.}}
{{KrytenKoro|If you go downstairs instead of upstairs to get into a world, the Respite is still there. It doesn't automatically unlock when you reenter a world from the front, even though it's there; so when you open the door to it, you overwrite it. But if you come from behind, it's still there.}}


{{troisnyxetienne-shocked|text=Wait. I'm confused. That means...... say if I enter Level 2 and all the rooms are erased, and then I get back to Level 1, the Conqueror's Respite room is still there ?}}
{{TNE|shocktext=Wait. I'm confused. That means...... say if I enter Level 2 and all the rooms are erased, and then I get back to Level 1, the Conqueror's Respite room is still there ?}}
{{KrytenKoro|You've never tried it? I've always found it way easier to get to the RoR, since they're usually by the exit.}}
 
{{TNE|happytext=Ehehehehe, I never did. Whenever I received a Key to Rewards card (usually in Neverland), I'd go to the lower levels with a warp sphere rather than descend all the way. I was too lazy to actually go through the back.}}
 
==Random Joker==
Can the Random Joker actually be used for unlocking ?? '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 15:17, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 
It can be used for any regular room and it also can be used for Story rooms. Like an example if there is a requirement for 35 Green cards, the Random Joker could fill it. It can't be used in place of the gold cards though.  - [[User:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Heart''']]<span style="color:#A9A9A9">'''Of'''[[User talk:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#000000">'''Oblivion''']] 15:22, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
:Wow. Not bad. Haven't tried it before (even with clear data) ; guess I'll have to start a new game just to see what bits I missed in Re:Chain. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 15:23, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 
Yeah, I always save those cards for the Destiny Islands and Castle Oblivion floors because some of those requirements are crazy! - [[User:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Heart''']]<span style="color:#A9A9A9">'''Of'''[[User talk:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#000000">'''Oblivion''']] 15:25, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
:It's strange, but I managed to satisfy all the requirements. I had all the required cards, beat that. I was actually skeptical about using the Random Joker. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 15:28, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
I was too and then I read the description and then went ahead and just tried it in Hollow Bastion. It was a little sad how happy I was that I didn't have to use a ton of cards. - [[User:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Heart''']]<span style="color:#A9A9A9">'''Of'''[[User talk:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#000000">'''Oblivion''']] 15:34, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
:Heh. Pity I've only got the Japanese version of Re:Chain ! '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 15:36, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, but that's better than nothing. Some places don't even get it. Does Europe have it? Plus, the voice acting in the English version is a little bad. Besides Riku and Sora (even though Sora sounds weird with his voice from KHII), DiZ, Mickey and Zexion all just sound weird. - [[User:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Heart''']]<span style="color:#A9A9A9">'''Of'''[[User talk:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#000000">'''Oblivion''']] 15:40, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
From what [[User:Unbirth|Unbirth]] told me, he's only got the English version of Re:Chain. Re:Chain was '''never''' released in Europe. The date was rumoured to be the 17th of April, but nothing happened, eventually. If you ask me, Sora's okay. Mickey and Zexion are terrible. But heck, I was waiting for Donald Reignoux's voice (from the French versions of KH) and it's a real pity Re:Chain wasn't released. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 15:43, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 
Yeah, if they send it to at least two areas of the world they might as well release it everywhere. I wish they would release Kingdom Hearts Final Mix and Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix with the theater mode that has all the different voice acting versions from around the world. - [[User:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Heart''']]<span style="color:#A9A9A9">'''Of'''[[User talk:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#000000">'''Oblivion''']] 16:07, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
:ESPECIALLY Donald Reignoux's voice !!!! Believe me, I've fallen in love with that voice of his ! '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 01:28, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
::Who does Reignoux voice? Is it Sora? - [[User:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Heart''']]<span style="color:#A9A9A9">'''Of'''[[User talk:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#000000">'''Oblivion''']] 02:24, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
Yes. Okay, here's what you do - go to Swim This Way, go to the French counterpart- and there's a vid. Sora voices. ^_^ '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 02:31, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
:French Kingdom Hearts is very different but interesting. Goofy = Dingo? I would love to learn French but at my school the only taught German or Spanish. - [[User:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Heart''']]<span style="color:#A9A9A9">'''Of'''[[User talk:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#000000">'''Oblivion''']] 02:43, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
Goofy is Dingo, because of two things : Dingo is a type of dog. Also, they made a pun on ''dingue'' = crazy, to give it the same meaning as our English "Goofy". '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 02:50, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
:Oh ok. - [[User:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Heart''']]<span style="color:#A9A9A9">'''Of'''[[User talk:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#000000">'''Oblivion''']] 02:52, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
 
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==Prototype ?==
I remember I uploaded the prototype image of the Map Cards not very long ago. Is it still on the wiki ? If so, shall we put it in ? '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#00BFFF">Pour Noël je te donnerai</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#C0C0C0">le battement de mon cœur… ♥ </font>]]'''</sub> 10:22, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
 
== Project ==
 
This is the next thing I'm trying to do for [[KHW:ITEMS]]. Anyone want to help?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 22:23, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
:Count me in, I love doing thing kind of crap! (Which I of course mean in the best possible way.) --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 00:03, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
I'll help too =) I have a table for the keycards in my [[User:Dan da Man36/Sandbox#Card Table|sandbox]], mind if I put it in? [[User:Dan da Man36|<span style="color:gold">''Dan''</span>]] [[User talk:Dan da Man36|<span style="color:blue"><small> - IS THE KING OF THE PLATYPI!!!</small></span>]] 22:15, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
== 2nd Rewards ==
 
Just to check:
*Japanese ReCoM: Complete Sora's Story and KHII OR Complete Reverse/Rebirth OR Complete KHIIFM
*American ReCoM: Complete Sora's Story and KHII OR Complete Reverse/Rebirth
*HD ReCoM: Complete Sora's Story and KHD OR Complete Reverse/Rebirth and KHD
 
Is this correct?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 10:07, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
:Make sure to revise all affected cards, the Attack cards, and Enemy cards pages accordingly.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 10:08, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
::Because there is no official English guide for KHRECOM I'm not completely sure about the unlock order of the rewards but I think the 2nd rewards are either linked to a completed KHIIFM save file in the Japanese version or a completed Reverse/Rebirth save file in the American version. Furthermore no save file of KHII is ever taken in consideration in any version. The KHIIFM Ultimania has this to say about the rewards:
::[http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy230/ShardofTruth/Other%20KH%20stuff/469.jpg Page 469], [http://pastebin.com/pQXM1Qgc transcript (still full of errors thanks to lazy ocr software)] --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 13:41, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
I'll have to agree w/ Shard regarding the KHII files. The only question I can see is whether the Japanese and KHHD versions require clearing R/R as well as KHIIFM/KHD. I'm guessing, no...?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 03:50, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
::Okay, the ultimania seems to say that KHIIFM is both the only thing you need and the only thing that unlocks the second set, while [http://wikiwiki.jp/kh_hd15/?ReCOM%2F%A5%AB%A1%BC%A5%C9%A5%EA%A5%B9%A5%C8#ld5352a6 this wikiwiki] only talks about clearing KHD for the HD bonuses. Revised:
 
;One-Winged Angel and Diamond Dust
*All versions: Complete Sora's Story
 
;Ultima Weapon, Ansem, Lexaeus, Zexion{{ReCoM}}
*All versions: Clear Reverse/Rebirth and defeat Marluxia
**UW, Ansem, Lexaeus are from any Bounty in CoM, and are obtained in order. In ReCoM, Zexion and Ansem appear in DI and TT, while UW and Lexaeus appear in CO (obtained in order).
 
;Star Seeker, Bond of Flame
*Japanese: Clear KHIIFM
*American: Clear Sora's Story and Reverse/Rebirth
*KHHD: Clear KHD
 
;Hidden Dragon, Follow the Wind, Monochrome, Photon Debugger
*Japanese: Clear KHIIFM
*American: Clear Sora's Story and Reverse/Rebirth
 
;Total Eclipse, Midnight Roar, Maverick Flare, Two Become One
*KHHD: Clear KHD
 
Is this correct?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 09:03, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:Sounds about right. {{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 18:06, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 
Excuse me? I'm sorry to interrupt, but, I finished both game modes in Re: Chain of Memories... What now?? {{User:Knowall}}
:Check [[Game Clear Data]], you're now eligible for the second set of rewards and the best attack and enemy cards in the game. {{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 21:57, 25 July 2013 (UTC)