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How is it possible that he can only be fought after sealing Keyholes and defeating Xemnas? There are no keyholes in KHII, and killing Xemnas ends the game. | How is it possible that he can only be fought after sealing Keyholes and defeating Xemnas? There are no keyholes in KHII, and killing Xemnas ends the game. | ||
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I think it ought to be merged. Let's put it to a vote. [[User:EnglishJoker|EnglishJoker]] 00:12, November 21, 2010 (UTC) | I think it ought to be merged. Let's put it to a vote. [[User:EnglishJoker|EnglishJoker]] 00:12, November 21, 2010 (UTC) | ||
To merge this with Terra would be the same thing as merging Vanitas Remnant with Vanitas. I don't think it should be merged at all. And besides, doesn't the LS have it's own journal entry? [[File:Way to the Dawn KHII.png|20px]]'''<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS">[[User:Chitalian8|<span style="color:#C00000;">Chitalian</span>]][[User talk:Chitalian8|<span style="color:3300FF;">8</span>]]</span>'''[[ | To merge this with Terra would be the same thing as merging Vanitas Remnant with Vanitas. I don't think it should be merged at all. And besides, doesn't the LS have it's own journal entry? [[File:Way to the Dawn KHII.png|20px]]'''<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS">[[User:Chitalian8|<span style="color:#C00000;">Chitalian</span>]][[User talk:Chitalian8|<span style="color:3300FF;">8</span>]]</span>'''[[File:Wayward Wind KHBBS.png|20px]] 00:15, November 21, 2010 (UTC) | ||
LS have its own entry in KHIIFM+ but I don't know about BbS. Anndd... I don't think it's the same with Vanitas-Vantis Remnant case since LS is canon character :/ {{User:17master/Sign}} | LS have its own entry in KHIIFM+ but I don't know about BbS. Anndd... I don't think it's the same with Vanitas-Vantis Remnant case since LS is canon character :/ {{User:17master/Sign}} | ||
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::Psst, KrytenKoro, if the Sentiment is Terra's Nobody, then where's his Heartless? O.O --Never fear ... [[User:Superdog1123| Superdog]] is here! <sup>[[User talk: Superdog1123| Yipee! :D]]</sup> 04:21, November 22, 2010 (UTC)Superdog1123 | ::Psst, KrytenKoro, if the Sentiment is Terra's Nobody, then where's his Heartless? O.O --Never fear ... [[User:Superdog1123| Superdog]] is here! <sup>[[User talk: Superdog1123| Yipee! :D]]</sup> 04:21, November 22, 2010 (UTC)Superdog1123 | ||
The Sentiment is not Terra's Nobody, it's his soul. His Nobody is Xemnas. His Heartless is Ansem, Seeker of Darkness.-- | The Sentiment is not Terra's Nobody, it's his soul. His Nobody is Xemnas. His Heartless is Ansem, Seeker of Darkness.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 04:23, November 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Y'alls word against Nomura's. The LS is Terra's Nobody by technicality, in the sense that it possesses the components that make up a Nobody, i.e. a body (the armor) and a motivating source (Terra's mind), it's not a normal Nobody, or even a literal Nobody, but it is essentially a Nobody because it's general construct resembles a Nobody--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 04:35, November 22, 2010 (UTC) | Y'alls word against Nomura's. The LS is Terra's Nobody by technicality, in the sense that it possesses the components that make up a Nobody, i.e. a body (the armor) and a motivating source (Terra's mind), it's not a normal Nobody, or even a literal Nobody, but it is essentially a Nobody because it's general construct resembles a Nobody--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 04:35, November 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||
So, I guess the LS is what you called a "Special Nobody" or not?-- | So, I guess the LS is what you called a "Special Nobody" or not?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 04:37, November 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||
I guess so--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 05:35, November 22, 2010 (UTC) | I guess so--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 05:35, November 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Hmm...Okay, then!-- | Hmm...Okay, then!--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 05:45, November 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Will's Cage == | == Will's Cage == | ||
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:You didn't start an agrument, and in fact you inspired a change in the Trivia piece you brought up. Its just a pet peeve of mine when people make assumptions without reading what they're talking about.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}13:23, January 23, 2011 (UTC) | :You didn't start an agrument, and in fact you inspired a change in the Trivia piece you brought up. Its just a pet peeve of mine when people make assumptions without reading what they're talking about.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}13:23, January 23, 2011 (UTC) | ||
Speaking about the voice, I have a question: You know that when the voices are set to English in KHIIFM, the characters who have extra lines don't communicate, right? I can understand the Will lacking a voice when it's set to English, but what happens when the voices are set to ''Japanese''? Does the Will still not have a voice? | |||
This is just something I need to make sure, and I'll be grateful if someone can provide me feedback on this. <sup>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#4997D0">Tambours</font>]]'''</sup><sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#191970">Néant</font>]]'''</sub> '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="silver">Ensemble !</font>]]''' 21:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
== What's a harken? == | == What's a harken? == | ||
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PS: If we did not have Will's Cage to provide "Lingering Will", then "Lingering Remnant" would be the next best thing. While Lingering Sentiment is the most common term used in the fanbase, from what I remember it came from the same people who gave you "13 Mushroom" and "Two Across" as the name of the two KHIIFM keyblades.}} | PS: If we did not have Will's Cage to provide "Lingering Will", then "Lingering Remnant" would be the next best thing. While Lingering Sentiment is the most common term used in the fanbase, from what I remember it came from the same people who gave you "13 Mushroom" and "Two Across" as the name of the two KHIIFM keyblades.}} | ||
{{neumannz|time=14:05, 28 August 2014 (UTC)|bdave=[http://youtu.be/MMmfUc5WN5o?t=1m13s AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND... SCENE!]}} | |||
== Lingering Will just houses Terra's anger, not mind or soul. == | |||
[http://www.mediafire.com/download/vf01a910fdv9xo4/xehanort+exp+record+%28full+size+translated%29.png Source]. It's very close to just being an Unversed.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:42, 31 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Noting that Xehanort claims it is his mind.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:27, 26 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Kingdom Hearts Concert -First Breath- Info == | |||
Why is the information from the concert keep g xeetting removed? Either keep the information or remove the section entirely. [[User:Hallowseve97|Hallowseve97]] ([[User talk:Hallowseve97|talk]]) 04:05, 23 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Oooooor follow the wiki's policies, where we have a framework for the section inviting people to edit, but if material is noted not up to snuff, we comment it out to allow the editor to refine it? | |||
:As far as "why", the explanation is right there on the page and has been for a while.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 04:32, 23 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
The information was there though and whoever edited it summed up the translation that KHInsider and/or KH13 did. | |||
"''Lingering Will meets with Naminé, who had found her way to him by following Sora's heart. He wonders who she is and she explains that she is a witch who can manipulate memory. She also says she knows that he is bound by two hearts: Terra's and Xehanort's. She then reassures him that help is coming soon and she tells him to not give up and to keep on fighting. Lingering Will said, "Aqua, Ven!" as though talking to Naminé had made him remember their names.''" | |||
Seems summed up perfectly. Maybe just needed some slight rewording. [[User:Hallowseve97|Hallowseve97]] ([[User talk:Hallowseve97|talk]]) 15:52, 23 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
: Then it should be reworded and given a proper source before it's unhidden. But so far it is a great summary! :D {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 16:01, 23 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Okay, since people aren't reading them: | |||
#Cite to first breath concert, not fansite (credit translation to translator on our article for concert) | |||
#identify what it is "after" | |||
#rewrite with appropriate brevity | |||
The section as currently worded will not be restored until those are dealt with. Right now, it is cited to a fansite, is not correctly placed into the timeline, and is a script regurgitation instead of simply focusing on the intent of the scene.[[Special:Contributions/204.11.142.106|204.11.142.106]] 20:58, 23 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
== KH3 Ultimania about LW == | |||
—What happened to the Lingering Will after the battle? | |||
Nomura: When Terra was revived it caused the Will to vanish, and the armor disappeared. But Keyblade Wielder's armour is like a Keyblade in that even if it disappears, it can be summoned again so long as the wearer is in their usual condition. | |||
So LW was still there untill Terra got revived. Which means the fight with Terra-Xehanort has gone to nowhere? | |||
== Mowing the Article == | |||
Shouldn't we have the Lingering Will be a "Sub-section?", "Second Article?", don't really know the name for it but to Terra. Similar to how we have Anti-Aqua to Aqua. also not related but does "Second Article" have an official name on the wiki. I'm kinda a noob on Wikis, also sorry for bad English [[User:ScandinavianViking|ScandinavianViking]] ([[User talk:ScandinavianViking|talk]]) 00:17, 23 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
:I believe the reason why we don’t have at it is for the same reason that we don’t have tabs on Nobodies and their sombodies: They are seperate beings. Anti-Aqua is still Aqua just infected with darkness while Lingering Will is an entirely new being similar to Nobodies and Heartless. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] ([[User talk:JTD95|talk]]) 01:09, 23 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
== (The) Lingering Will == | |||
Regarding whether or not (the) Lingering Will has an article when being referred to, I don't believe it is ever referred to in-game or in the journal explicitly with or without the article, however I did see that in the interview given in the page (citation 1), Nomura refers to it as "the Will", so take of that what you will. | |||
:Isn’t that a fan translation though? One would have to look at the original version of the interview to consider whether it could be translated either way. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] ([[User talk:JTD95|talk]]) 02:37, 11 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
::The Japanese language doesn't use words like "the", so interviews aren't going to help. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 12:42, 11 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
::EDIT: It seems that the cutscene in KH3 is called "The Lingering Will". {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 13:01, 11 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
:::If the cutscene is called that then I guess either version is fine. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] ([[User talk:JTD95|talk]]) 23:27, 11 December 2019 (UTC) | |||