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{{Firaga44|text=hey kate guess what i told my friend from youtube about this wiki and we might get a new user her name is silvermorning}}
{{Firaga44|text=hey kate guess what i told my friend from youtube about this wiki and we might get a new user her name is silvermorning}}
== Full Name Categories ==
{{Azul|time=20:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)|text=I've noticed that alot of the categories here use shortened game names. For example: [[:Category:Birth by Sleep characters]]. Should we use full game name for categories, or stick with the shortened ones? Also, capitalization. It seems inconsistent here. Should each first letter be capitalized, or just the game names or... All capitalized looks better.}}
{{BebopKate|time=00:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)|text=Hmm...on one hand, it would be technically correct.  On the other hand, it strikes me as a bit redundant, considering this ''is'' the ''Kingdom Hearts'' wiki.  On yet another hand, we have visitors coming from outside the wiki, so we probably should put the ''Kingdom Hearts'' bit in just in case.
Now, where did I get three hands from...
As for names, on other wikis I've been on, the first word, proper nouns, and titles are capitalized; all other words are left in small letters, like your example up there.  I think it's technically more proper.}}
{{Azul|time=01:37, 29 June 2009 (UTC)|text=Ahh, got it. That means alot of categories are going to be changed this week, alot of them. I'll get to it, and I'll ask Yuan if she's busy this week and maybe she can help out.<br>('''Edit'''): I'd think the only exception would be image categories, yes?}}
{{BebopKate|time=04:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)|text=Yeah, I would keep image categories the same for the moment.
I'm helping out at White Wolf at the moment, I'll work on categories when I get done.
ETA: There ya go.  Started the category for Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days characters, and got A-L done.  I'll get more as time permits. ^_^}}
{{Azul|time=05:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)|text=Thanks Kate :] Since I'm here I'll finish the 358/2 Days up.}}
== WikiBlog ==
{{Azul|time=04:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)|text=Your opinion is need at the [[Forum:WikiBlog|forums]].}}
== Dropping by... ==
{{Super Sword-chucks|text=Just to discuss some J-pop. What group do you like?}}
{{BebopKate|time=03:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)|text=No particular groups, I like a little bit of everything.  My favorite singers right now are probably Utada (big surprise, right?), Rie Fu, and Crystal Kay, but there are lots of others I've heard here and there I enjoy.  I end up getting hooked to a new singer or group through anime themes, usually.  Any recommendations?  I'm pretty open to anything...}}
{{Super Sword-chucks|happytext=... I got no recommendations, really. -.-;;}}
{{BebopKate|time=04:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Lol, that's cool.  If you hear anything good, let me know. ^_^}}
{{Super Sword-chucks|happytext=Then "刹那" by GReeeeN. I like that song, even though it recently just came out.}}
{{BebopKate|time=05:01, 1 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Ooo, I've heard of them; aren't they the guys who always hide themselves?  I will keep an eye out for that one.}}
{{Super Sword-chucks|text=They plan on going public as soon as all of them get out of dentistry school, I think. Three of the four of them got out. :D}}
==CoM Enemies==
{{HeartOfOblivion|text=Hey, right now there are two categories for Chain of Memories Enemies. There is Category: Chain of Memories Enemies and Category: Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories Enemies. I was going to try and put all the pages into the second category. Which one would you say we should use?
Also, all the Heartless pages will not let me change their categories. Do you know what the reason for this is? It might just be my computer.}}
{{BebopKate|time=04:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Actually, it should be "Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories enemies", if we can.  Not sure about the Heartless pages, if that's something tied into the template or not...can you switch to the old code format and do it from there?}}
{{HeartOfOblivion|text=I can't. For instance, the [[Air Soldier]] page shows that it already has three categories. But when I try to edit them, they don't show up not even in code format.
Side note: Does this mean that enemy categories for Kingdom Hearts, KH:CoM and KHII need to be changed? They all have enemies capitalized.}}
{{BebopKate|time=04:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Ah, I see what you mean...weird.  And it's only with the enemies...it sounds like something to do with the new template then.
And yeah, I hate to say it, but we will probably have to change them all so they're uniform.  Go ahead and start on the CoM ones if you want; Azul, myself, and some others are working on the categories, too, so don't feel obligated to alter them all.  Thanks for helping us, HeartOfOblivion.}}
{{HeartOfOblivion|text=I just finished the CoM enemies. Can you delete the categories we don't need now and then later we can figure out how to remove them from the page? Just so there is no confusion to which category we are gonna go with.
Side note: Should we have categories for Final Mix enemies? Because right now some of them are grouped with their original game but Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix has it's own enemy category.}}
{{Yuanchosaan|time=05:54, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
|text=I put all the categories in capital letters for consistency. That way, we don't have to remember which words should be capitalised or not. It looks a bit silly, but sadly the software makes categories cap-sensitive.}}
{{BebopKate|time=23:29, 1 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Cap-sensitive has driven me crazy more times than not, and yeah categories are one of those places I've been caught. 
Really though, correct formatting says if it's a proper noun or the first word, it's capitalized.  If it's not, it's not.  Same as an ordinary sentence.  Just without, you know, the complete part. ^_^}}
{{KrytenKoro|The categories tied into the template must be edited from within the template.
When we had the forum discussion on the new template setup, I asked many times if just "Chain of Memories enemies" was acceptable to everyone, and recieved an affirmative answer. Is there a reason this has to be changed, and could we possibly have a wider discussion about it? (since so many picked "Chain of Memories enemies" the first time around).
If the decision ''is'' to use the longer name for the category, it needs to be changed over from within the Heartless template, and should not be added as a separate category.|04:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)}}
{{Yuanchosaan|time=08:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
|text=Apologies, I probably wasn't active during the time of the discussion. As for categories, the problem is that our categories follow a different style. When I proposed the overhaul for the image categories, I used full names and all words capitalised (with no one objecting), but many of the other categories have shortened game names or use a mix of capitalised and non-capitalised words. Other categories use the full names and capitalised words. The problem is not whether one is more proper, but that people continue to use different styles.
So partly for consistency, and partly for easy use, I suggest we pick one style and stick with it. If we do that, we avoid dup categories and can always remember what to type when categorising an image or page, plus it's less likely that someone will make a mistake when creating a category page. It also means I won't go insane from categorising 1000+ images and constantly having to check what the category is called ^^;. For me, capitalising all the words is easier to remember. We can create redirects, but no doubt ILHI or I will obsessively go around fixing them and VFD'ing the redirects eventually.}}
{{KrytenKoro|Well, it's grammatically correct to only capitalize proper nouns and the first word of a phrase.
As for the naming, especially since we have ''Kingdom Hearts enemies'', I personally think it makes it somewhat unclear if you have Kingdom Hearts in all the enemy category titles. I would suggest using
*Kingdom Hearts
*Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix (for enemies that ''only'' appear in FM)
*Chain of Memories
*Kingdom Hearts II
*Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix (for enemies that ''only'' appear in FM)
*358/2 Days
*Birth by Sleep
*Coded
}}
{{BebopKate|time=21:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)|text=It occurred to me that we should probably be using full game names in our categories, seeing as how we have off-wiki visitors who may come in that way looking for information.  It does look redundant when you stack them all next to each other, I admit, but we're not the only ones who use the wiki.  I really wish I thought of that earlier, before you'd done all that work.  If you want to reopen it for discussion, that's fine by me.
I still stand by using capital letters only for proper nouns and the first letter.  It's really not that hard once you get used to it.  This would probably be something to add to the manual of style.}}
{{Yuanchosaan|time=05:52, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
|text=So long as we stick to one style, and one style only (add it to the MoS), I'll be happy with whatever one we use. I support full names as well.}}
{{KrytenKoro|I'm not sure I understand why off-wiki readers would be more confused by the lack of "Kingdom Hearts" before each one - the names would be parsed like titles, so it would be clear that it was ''some'' kind of KH work, and clicking on the categories would spell out the entire name. Honestly, it would seem to me to be more easy to confuse "Kingdom Hearts enemies" with being some kind of generic category if they all have it.}}
{{BebopKate|time=04:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)|text=I was thinking in terms of search engines, mostly, not to mention consistancy with the other articles we've already changed over to "Kingdom Hearts: Something or Other".  Anyway, that's my feelings on it.  Do you think this is something we should put to wiki vote?
I'm kind of surprised this wiki hadn't worked out the category formats before now.  Hooray for the detail-minded among us, I guess. ^_^}}
{{HOO|talktext=I say we put it to a vote, just to see what people who work on the wiki think/want. I really don't have a vote because I could go either way. I just wanted to make things consistent when I first brought it up. Whatever we decide, I will help to change articles or whatever the need may be.}}
{{KrytenKoro|Okay, I've changed the templates so that they use the below:
*Kingdom Hearts enemies/bosses
*Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories enemies/bosses
*Kingdom Hearts II enemies/bosses
I would like to request that, if we use the "Kingdom Hearts", we don't use colons within the category name. Technically, colons might be incorrect in the game title itself, anyway, so meh.|16:56, 9 July 2009 (UTC)}}
{{BebopKate|time=02:46, 10 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Thanks, Kryten.  Fair enough regarding the colons; I've seen conflicts here and there in official sources anyway.}}
==Bubbles!==
ok os im kind of new at this stuff but could you help me on how you have like the talk things whereyou have like a picture and then the thing youd like to say? sorry its just confusing and hard to understand.
{{BebopKate|time=23:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Hi, KH Fan.  Don't forget to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> so I know who wrote the message.
As for talk bubbles, I refer you over to our current bubble master [[User:Xiggie|Xiggie]] who can do almost anything with them, where as mine has remained consistently old-styled since I started posting here. ^_-}}
== uh kate ==
{{Joekeybladeaura|text=um kate what is the thing on top of your talkpage}}
{{Super Sword-chucks|text=I was gonna ask before, but it seems everyone has one...}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=It is kinda weird, but we're going to get use to it. I think it's something new for the wikis. Oh, and check it out! I already added my avatar! It's my little Naminé!}}
{{Super Sword-chucks|text=My avatar is Sword-Chucks. >_> For the lulz.}}
{{Azul|time=22:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Are you guys talking about the key? It's placed on staff user and talk pages. It's not new, staff has had it since the beginning. It's an idea from the FFWiki. They have an active cactuar instead of a key.}}
{{Xiggie|time=22:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)|text=No I think that they're talking about the avatar thing that came with the blog thing.}}
{{Azul|time=22:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)|text=I forget, most of you guys use Monaco. Monobook is waaay better. It's not as bulky, easier to navigate, and you get a cool Castle Oblivion background ;} }}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Monaco? What's that, and how do I get it?}}
{{Azul|time=22:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Mon'''aco''' is probably the skin you are using, Mon'''obook''', is what I've been using ever since I started editing a wiki. You can change it by going to My Preferences, the go to Skin and check '''Monobook''', save changes and ''voilà'', you have Monobook.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Oh, I see. Thanks.}}
{{BebopKate|time=23:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Looks like some fancy widget thingie to me.  Silly Wikia.
In my day, we wrote all our code out by hand!  In notepad!  And if we wanted a picture, we had to use MS Paint! And...
(Wanders off ranting about BASIC, MSDOS, and 16-color monitors...)}}
{{yer mom|time=00:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)|text=OH MAI GAWD! 16-color monitors!!! i have one of those rotting in my storage room XD!!!! Ah the good old days... stick men in MS Paint, computers freezing if you typed too fast, green letters over a black background... *tear*}}
== OMG ==
{{PrincessAndie|text= Kate, get to my page. NOW! This is an emergency!}}
== Vandal ==
69.112.251.182
You need to ban him, please.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 00:55, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
{{NinjaSheik|angry=AGREED! I already slapped him with two warnings already!}}
{{BebopKate|time=03:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Azul seems to have beaten me to it. ^_^}}
== Little late, but good all the same! ==
{{DTN|happytext=Hey Bebop! By the way, should I call you Bebop, Kate, or something else? Anyway, I noticed that nobody gave you a "Happy 4th of July!" So...
<center><big><big><big><span style="color:red;">HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!</span></big></big></big></center>}}
{{BebopKate|time=04:07, 6 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Thank you, DTN, and a belated Happy 4th to you.  I will respond to Bebop, Kate, BebopKate, or even BK, although the last one makes me think of the Burger King for some reason.}}
{{DTN|laughtext=Ha! The Burger King-BK-BebopKate thing is why I haven't called you BK! Oh, and thanks for happy 4th, it was great! How was yours?}}
{{M|text=OMG I haven't talked to you in a while how's it going?!}}
{{BebopKate|time=04:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)|text=@Marexl: Same as usual; mostly looking forward to my vacation in a couple of weeks.  Lovin' that happy Marluxia icon. ^_^
@DTN: Mine was quite fun...got to see a free baseball game and fireworks at [[wikipedia:Durham Bulls Athletic Park|D-BAP]].  Can't complain about free.  Glad you had a good Independence Day as well. ^_^}}
== Confirmation ==
{{Bluer|04:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)|Hi. I'm here to seek confirmation that you and Azul have finalized the nominees for promotion}}
{{BebopKate|time=04:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)|text=We have definitely chosen the two new admins, yes.  They will be [[User:Ultima The High Seraph|Ultima]] and [[User:Guardian Soul|Guardian Soul]].}}
{{Bluer|05:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)|I'm also confirming two new rollback users}}
{{BebopKate|time=[[User:BebopKate|BebopKate]] 05:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)|text=*facepalm*  Ah yes.  I know [[User:KrytenKoro|Kryten]] was mentioned...I think [[User:Xiggie|Xiggie]] was the other...}}
{{Xiggie|time=21:57, 7 July 2009 (UTC)|text=So, are Kryten and I going to be Mods now..?}}
{{BebopKate|time=02:16, 8 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Hold that thought, Xiggie...I think we might work on a short-list of potential rollbackers.  You're definitely on there, though.  In time, my Icelandic Xion... ^_^}}
== A Suggestion ==
{{EO|text= Hey there! I just joined this wiki yesterday. I was talking with Orpheus of the Lyre, and we think May should be Wayne Allwine Rememberance Month on this wiki. During May for the next few years or so, we would feature the King Mickey, Kingdom Key D, or Mickey (Timeless River) page. Just a thought. I don't know if this has come up. You seem to be the go-to for things, so I thought i'd ask.}}
{{DTN|happytext=This sounds like a great idea! I second the idea. I also second ideas of a TNE-support Userbox and further work on the ''Days'' remodel of the site. It seems like everyone just forgot about that.}}
{{NinjaSheik|happy=I agreed, too! It'll nice to do it for Mr. Wayne, so everyone can remember him.}}
{{BebopKate|time=20:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)|text=I don't know about go-to per se, but I think they sound like pretty cool ideas.  If you want, I'd post them to the forums to get more input from everyone else.  I think the Days remodel is still being worked on...apparently some stuff is being waited upon.  Since we have until September before the official release, I think that project is just taking its sweet time.}}
{{DTN|text=Oh, well ok, thanks for the update!}}
{{EO|happytext=I'm glad you like my idea. Anyways, Is there a way I could aid with Days remodling? I would be good for Days Heartless articles. I can just copy the text I wrote from my website (I don't care if it becomes public), and put it on the wiki.}}
== excuse me ==
{{ghostboy3000|text= hi i heard u were an a adminatrastror so i came tell to tell some one uploaded a picture that has nothing to do kingdom hearts can u delete it's grimmjawjack (or something like that)}}
{{EO|happytext=The source of that image is The Luna Diviner. But check the User Images. Several non-KH images are there. Why couldn't this one simply be moved there?}}
{{ghostboy3000|text= i thought it was someone called yaanchosaan}}
{{EO|happytext=Yaanchosaan categorized the image after it was added last night during my conversation with The Luna Diviner. He added the photo. Yaanchosaan only placed it in a category. That counted as a new photo, apparently.}}
{{Ghostboy3000|text=  some one just put a picture called vader wrath on here it's darth vader with a laser out of him}}
{{EO|happytext=Courtesy of Xemnas, perhaps? LOL}}
{{BebopKate|time=20:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Fastest way to get images deleted: 1) Go [[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Pages for Deletion|here]]. 2) Start a new heading and ''post a link'' to it there.  3)An admin will be around to help shortly. ^_^
This works particularly well if there are several questionable images, as it gets handled faster with four admins to spot and tackle it into oblivion, versus just lil' ol' me here.}}
== Bored - Want Something to do... ==
{{EO|text=You have projects / articles that need to be done? So long as someone more used to the wiki (I'm new) makes formatting changes with templates, etc., I 'd be happy to do those. I have created articles so far as a project on the 358/2 Days Heartless....}}
{{BebopKate|time=02:21, 8 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Hi, Endless Oblivion.  Thanks for the offer, but I'm afraid I don't have any projects for this wiki going on at the moment.  May I suggest you check out the [[Forum:The World that Never was|forums]], and either look for projects or ask there if anyone could use your help?  We're kind of in a lull since we're waiting for ''358/2 Days'' to come out...}}
{{DTN|text=Kryten and I could use some help adding stats to the enemy pages, perhaps that's something you could do, Endless Oblivion.}}
== DEATH AWAITS YOU ==
{{Azul|time=02:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Check [[User:Azul81677/Castle Oblivion#KHWiki Version (stolen from Bluerfn)|it]] out. Look for yerself, very cryptic O_o}}
{{BebopKate|time=02:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC)|text=That's...interesting.  Where did it come from?}}
{{DTN|text=When I was reading the middle part, I thought it would end being one of those inspirational types; but no, it just ended with "Death awaits you." XD}}
{{BebopKate|time=03:00, 8 July 2009 (UTC)|text=And the whole "DEATH AWAITS YOU" heading up there wasn't a clue? ^_^}}
{{Azul|time=03:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Before Bluerfn left the FFWiki completely, this was displayed on his userpage. I thought it was cool and always wanted to do one for here. So I did! I liekz it ;}<br>('''Edit'''): It's from Megami Tensei .}}
== Marexl ==
{{M|text=BK I think I'm worthless to this Wiki :(}}
{{EO|text= You are NOT worthless, Marexl. You've been so much help to me! Those are dark thoughts. They are corrupting your heart. Do you want to end up like Xehanort?}}
{{BebopKate|time=21:44, 8 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Hang in there...there's just not a whole lot of big stuff to do right now.  When ''358/2 Days'' drops, I think we'll all have plenty of work. ^_^  In the meantime, there's always little things that need work, like proofreading and categories.  It doesn't seem like much, but fixing those things are actually a big help to the wiki.}}
== Reply to the Forums.... ==
{{EO||talktext=I replied to the forums, last night.... I have an embed code for a 358/2 Days countdown (if that's what you use). I also will allow the use of my website for 358/2 Days info. I have full pages with HQ photos and/or videos of characters/Heartless. Let me know what you think. Here is the embed code for the countdown. The link to my site (should you use it) is on my userpage.
<object codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0" width="550" height="550" id="countdown"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" /><param name="movie" value="http://countdownpage.createyourcountdown.com/?filename=0000gtcdfb596fe2a0c3e0d654b0dc896e1bf6b8_090708043431" /><param name="quality" value="high" /><param name="wmode" value="transparent"><embed src="http://countdownpage.createyourcountdown.com/?filename=0000gtcdfb596fe2a0c3e0d654b0dc896e1bf6b8_090708043431" name="countdown" width="550" height="550" wmode="transparent" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" allowFullScreen="false" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0"/></object>}}
{{BebopKate|time=21:40, 8 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Coolness.  I'll be they get back to you soon...that's nice of you to share bandwidth with us.}}
== Something you should know.... ==
{{EO||talktext=I recently tried to change pages on the Wiki, and a message popped up about an error. Please fix this immediately.}}
{{BebopKate|time=21:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)|text=Depending on the error, there's probably not a thing I can do about it; that kind of thing usually falls upon [[w:c:wikia|Wikia]] itself.  If it keeps happening, you might want to let them know so they can see what to do about fixing it.}}
== I'm gonna go away soon ==
{{PrincessAndie|text= BeBopKate, you are one of the peeps on my friend list, and I want '''''all''''' of my friends to leave me a goodbye/have fun wish for my camp!}}
{{EO|happytext=Good bye, Andie. This comes from Xemnas and all of Organization XIII.}}
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