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:I don't have access to the Japanese material right now, I'll get it to you once I can. However, can you please provide citations for "Xehanort's Heartless"? The only times I'm aware of it being used is in the one scene at TWTNW, and in the KH3D journal entry (which uses it in line with "Xehanort's Nobody" and the other Org relations).{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:39, 1 August 2012 (UTC) | :I don't have access to the Japanese material right now, I'll get it to you once I can. However, can you please provide citations for "Xehanort's Heartless"? The only times I'm aware of it being used is in the one scene at TWTNW, and in the KH3D journal entry (which uses it in line with "Xehanort's Nobody" and the other Org relations).{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:39, 1 August 2012 (UTC) | ||
::I'll work on it. In terms of vagueness with regards to "human form", it's the game's own terminology. Ergo, we should go with it rather than our own personal preferences. It's better than loading the articles with unofficial terms or synonyms, when this is the closest thing to an official term we have. If we're drawing so much of our information from ''KHII'' all of a sudden, I hasten to mention how it's heavily emphasized Ansem is to be known as "Xehanort's Heartless" from now on, when all of a sudden we're going with "Ansem" again. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 21:12, 2 August 2012 (UTC) | ::I'll work on it. In terms of vagueness with regards to "human form", it's the game's own terminology. Ergo, we should go with it rather than our own personal preferences. It's better than loading the articles with unofficial terms or synonyms, when this is the closest thing to an official term we have. If we're drawing so much of our information from ''KHII'' all of a sudden, I hasten to mention how it's heavily emphasized Ansem is to be known as "Xehanort's Heartless" from now on, when all of a sudden we're going with "Ansem" again. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 21:12, 2 August 2012 (UTC) | ||
:KH3D itself calls him "Ansem, Seeker of Darkness", as has every Ultimania and game that mentions him in any way. "Xehanort's Heartless" is used in ''one line'' of KHII to mistakenly refer to Riku-Ansem, and as far as I know it's only used in KH3D in a context ''parallel to calling Xemnas "Xehanort's Nobody"''. If you have other sources for it, again, ''please cite them''. | |||
:"human form", again, has conflicting meanings in previous games, and is ''not'' used consistently as an "official term" like "Nobody" or "Heartless". I hesitate to even call it consistent in KH3D, since I haven't played the whole thing, but the ''unofficial term'' "human form" can mean multiple things, not all of which are the meaning the article is going for, while "original persona" means specifically what the article is going for. In the absence of a term used specifically as a proper noun, it is accebtable and appropriate to choose synonyms of the common nouns in direct quotes the script uses, in order to better communicate the intent of the material.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 21:54, 2 August 2012 (UTC) | |||