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::::::This is all because I dream of creating a game series like ''Kingdom Hearts'' someday, if not contributing to the series itself. I have ideas, and I want to share them with the world. I've seen ''Kingdom Hearts'' fan-games get attention before from people online, and I'd like my work to get some of that attention, too. I want to create something that looks convincing and could be "on-par" with the rest of the ''Kingdom Hearts'' series as a whole. I have some basic story ideas for some of the games listed above, while I have gameplay concepts in mind for others. Did that make any sense? :P - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 01:32, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::This is all because I dream of creating a game series like ''Kingdom Hearts'' someday, if not contributing to the series itself. I have ideas, and I want to share them with the world. I've seen ''Kingdom Hearts'' fan-games get attention before from people online, and I'd like my work to get some of that attention, too. I want to create something that looks convincing and could be "on-par" with the rest of the ''Kingdom Hearts'' series as a whole. I have some basic story ideas for some of the games listed above, while I have gameplay concepts in mind for others. Did that make any sense? :P - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 01:32, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, I get it.  But, I can't just devote my time or expect anyone else to do the same for game concepts, and nothing more.  :/  I hope you understand.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 03:24, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, I get it.  But, I can't just devote my time or expect anyone else to do the same for game concepts, and nothing more.  :/  I hope you understand.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 03:24, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::::I completely understand how you feel. I would not want to waste time contributing to something that cannot become a tangible product, either. However, I must admit I'm confused. What did you mean by, "So, I say, go somewhere with it!  Take that concept, and go all the way with it.  The 'story screenshots' you mock up, you string into a cohesive story.  The 'gameplay' images you mock up, you make into the battle scenes?" I ask because I still see great potential in our team-up. Websites like [http://www.projectazurite.com this] prove to me fan-games can generate interest within a community, but I realize working on projects like these is not everyone's cup of tea. What would ''you'' most be interested in working on, and what do you feel would be the best use of your time if you ''were'' to develop something like what I proposed? I honestly think I should have asked this from the get-go, instead of telling you what I am most in need of, myself. Please forgive me for that. By the way, those are some impressive-looking HUD mockups you have on your DeviantArt page! - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 06:20, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::Personally, I'm not really interested in anything.  XD  I make those mock-ups because it's fun, and because it makes my portfolio all purty.  Fangames are a pipe dream - 1 in 500 actually get made, and of those that do get made, 1 in 500 are any decent lol.  Though...I don't think there even exist 500 successfully made fangames.  XD  That's why I just make free-to-use user interfaces.  ''I'm'' not trying to make anything - that's up to individual people.  They're free to use my assets however they see fit.  IF I actively work on something, either by myself or with someone else, I have to be 100% convinced it's worth undertaking, and that it'll actually come out as something tangible.  May not be a fangame, but at least something with ''purpose''.  What that is is entirely up to the person with the idea.  XD  Not including professionally commissioned work, I've only ever experienced that ''once''.  ...In fact, I'm still working on it.  XD  You can actually thank Kryten for that lol.  So!  IF you have an idea that you are 100% convinced can actually be made, are 100% convinced you can convince me, and it has a purpose, then I'm all ears.  :P  It's not as hard as it sounds lol!  I'm easily convinced!  I just need safeguards, so to speak, so random fools don't try to waste my time lol.  In fact, Kryten convinced me of my current project with just a single sentence.  ''And he doesn't even know it!''  XD  I'mma surprise the fuck out of him with it.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 07:16, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::Let us take fan-games out of the equation. Have you ever considered teaming up with someone to produce an original game? The only reason I tend not to write brand-new material is because I struggle to if I cannot picture it in my head. Thus, it is easier for me to write for existing franchises, as I already know how their characters and worlds look. It only takes a bit of imagination to tell new stories about them.
::::::::::That said, I have always wanted to put fan-games on the back-burner and focus on producing my own stuff. I dream of telling new tales about characters I invent and then having the public enjoy those stories. Crazy as it may sound, that is my life's goal. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5El-yYNUwU This] if the kind of thing I'd like to make someday, as far as video games go. I may sound overly ambitious, but in truth, I am just extremely committed. I have never been part of a creative team before, but I find the idea of it exciting. No matter how many projects I start, be they fan-games or otherwise, I find it is the lack of a team that shares my creative passion and drive that prevents me from turning out finished products. I can't tell you how many concepts I have stuck in limbo because I have incurable writers block where they are concerned :P I guess all I need is the right inspiration. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 07:49, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::::I'd love to lol.  But you need a team of people, each with certain skillsets and are all equally committed to making something happen.  The thing is, most everyone won't do it for free.  If you come up to an, I dunno, concept artist and tell them you have a game concept, but you have no team, no build, and no money they'll just laugh at you until you're no longer in their field of vision.  I never said this here before lol, but about 6 months ago I actually started to work professionally by getting involved in the indie scene - by putting myself out there, and since then I've talked with all kinds of people, with all kinds of talents.  Talking with me about stuff like this isn't really gonna change much.  ''You need to put yourself out there!''  So, here's my suggestion:  [http://forums.indiegamer.com/ Get involved lol].  Start collaborating with some folks.  Take your own skill set, put it out there, and you might just find people who need it.  Once you know (and they know!) you can work in an organized, team-based environment, it's ''your'' turn!  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 19:03, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
==Warning 3==
{{Warning3|reason=[https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:NinjaSheik&diff=prev&oldid=718531 personally attacking] [[User talk:Kunoichi101#Re: Sheik|two users]]|--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:18, 6 March 2017 (UTC)}}
First of all, please do ''not'' contact me on my deviantART account regarding a KHWiki issue between you and Byzantinefire. What you did and the contents of your message was outright inappropriate. If you wish to speak to me, please then do it on the wiki.
You've made it very clear in your PM and openly on the KHWiki that you do not like Byzantinefire, and despite of that, [[User talk:NinjaSheik/Archive 14#Byzantinefire|you]] [[User talk:Byzantinefire#WSJ wiki|continue]] [[User talk:Kunoichi101#Jump Database|to]] [[User talk:NinjaSheik#Xehanort and Yhwach|insert yourself in discussions that has absolutely nothing to do with you]] [[User talk:NinjaSheik#Need to talk|and]] [[User talk:NinjaSheik#Charles Dance as Frollo|overreact]] [[User talk:Kunoichi101#Re: Sheik|over nearly every little thing Byzantinefire does]]. And it's not with just Byzantinefire, either. [[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander#IRC|You have butted into other users' conversations before]] [[Talk:Keyblade War#Everything up to KH3D was horseshit|and attacked them]]. [[User talk:Ignis#Why?|You have been]] [[User talk:Ignis#Warning|warned in the past by]] [[User talk:Ignis#Warning 2|by other users, including myself, for being hostile to other users]]. In retrospect, many of the confrontations between you and Byzantinefire could have been avoided if you did not insert yourself into his conversations with other users and overreact when he asks other users for favors. But to make this perfectly clear, I'm fully aware that Byzantinefire's behavior was not exemplary, either. I have already issued a warning to him. In spite of numerous warnings and confrontations, Ignis, you and Byzantinefire continue to violate community standards by personally attacking the other. If either of you continue to provoke each other to start fights, both of you will receive blocks for misconduct. This is your third and final warning.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:18, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
== KH Unchained X facebook page ==
So, the khux wiki has a facebook page [https://www.facebook.com/KHUXWiki/ here]. However, none of the editors on it are design/PR gurus. Is this something you'd be interested in having input on?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:20, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
:Sure!  I mean I wouldn't mind helping out, but...I'm not exactly a PR ''guru'' myself lol.  Just look at the photobook project - a whole '''THREE''' submissions!  But anyways, just tell me what you need and I'll try and get to it.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 18:44, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
==Block==
{{Block}}
As you have received three warnings and failed to adhere to the rules of the wiki, I have blocked you for one month from the KHWiki. [[User talk:NinjaSheik#Question|What you said about about Byzantinefire was completely out of line.]] Time and time again, you have proven yourself to be unable to keep a cool head and overreact with every little thing that Byzantinefire has done. You have attacked him on my talk page and [[User talk:KrytenKoro#I'm at my fucking limits here|on KrytenKoro's page]]. I was originally going to give you two weeks, considering this is your first ban, but then seeing your message on Kryten's talk page, where you once again attacked Byzantinefire by DEMANDING for him to be ban and calling him a "fucking three year old", I changed it to a month.
Do not act like the victim here when you were the one who attacked him first over something a single comment he made that voices his disapproval over using profanity, which no one should be using on the wiki, especially during page discussions. Contrary to what you may believe, I am not giving Byzantinefire special treatment or allowing to "manipulate" me. I have repeatedly issued warnings to him and you during these disagreements, as well. However, what you did was completely out of line. Whether you decide to come back or not after the block is your decision.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:55, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Do NOT remove messages from your talk page. That is against the wiki's rules.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:12, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
== You and Byzantine ==
*I'm unaware of what happened on the IRC, and the precedent at least is that it's moderation is separate from the wiki's. If he spammed it, I encourage the IRC mods to deal with him - but we've even had wiki admins and b-crats banned/moderated on the IRC.
*Regarding the spam -- he has been asked to stop spamming off-wiki topics, and as far as I can tell, he complied. If he continues to spam people, that would certainly be cause for discipline.
*I acknowledge that it's pretty apparent he provoked you in the symbols thread by trying to call you out on a rule that, to my knowledge, we don't even have, especially after Ninja previously instructed him not to start arguments with you. That being said -- whether something counts as a personal attack is at the staff's discretion, and the point of moderating that isn't to give people demerits, it's to encourage harmonious behavior. I've had my own fair share of PA warnings, blocks, and bans, it is meant to be a reminder to seek ''good'' behavior rather than a permanent scarlet letter.
**I have pointed this out for mod discussion (since it's apparent two staff members have opposing opinions, so we need to discuss this), but regardless of anything that happens to Byzantine, it is hopefully apparent to you that your response to him messaging Ninja ''way'' crossed the line of acceptable conduct, resulting in unacceptable personal attacks against both him ''and'' Ninja. If you have to vent your frustrations with such invective, at least do it in private so it is not a public spectacle that is certain to cause further drama between the two of you.
*The wiki does not demand quotas from any editor, and no editor, no matter how much they've contributed to the wiki, is above the rules. As I have told you in the past -- even I have been banned from the wiki, even when I was the top, most prolific editor. We make a point of always allowing the slate to be cleaned for any editor, but the requirement for that has always been acknowledging that the behavior broke the rules, and putting the project before personal pride. The Heartless Manufactory project still exists if you two want to work out your issues that way, and we appreciate both your contributions to the project, but the base line is -- this behavior cannot be allowed to continue, on either of your parts.
**Please don't claim to speak for my opinions on things. The reasons I don't feel like editing this wiki anymore has nothing to do with editor drama and much, much more to do with the fact that I'm nearly 30 and working to start a family. This is ''just a fanproject'', and not at all worth treating like a crusade or holy mission.
***Honestly, I'd recommend the same to you, and the same I recommend to all fellow editors or party members who get this overwhelmed -- ''this isn't life or death''. Just take a break, get rid of whatever's causing you the stress, and if that means getting rid of the wiki, then that's what it means. Elohim/Allah/Vishnu/whoever will not punish us for not completing the wiki, there's no need to subject yourself to the stress if you're not getting something good out of it.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:16, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
== KHPhotobook ==
Due to recent events, I was wondering if you were still planning on sending this to Churro. If needed, I can send it to him or make it. I believe you're still able to edit your talk page, so if for some reason you can't, feel free to send me an email here: <!--gotitmemorized995@gmail.com--> Otherwise, I'll put it together and send it in your stead! (By the way, if you haven't noticed, there were a few more entries added.) {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 07:15, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
:Huh, I actually ''can'' still edit here!  Sorry for the belated response.  I was actually just talking to Churro about this recently.  I told him the idea's scrapped - and I gave him the page/border I made for this for another purpose.  So technically this is shut down, but...if you think you can get a page full of stuff ready in four days, feel free to take over.  You can get in touch with him via his Twitter or his email (kingdomkey@gmail.com).  --[[Special:Contributions/173.170.159.16|173.170.159.16]] 19:35, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
== Kryten ==
It's a bit awkward for me to send you messages on my talk page, but them's the breaks.  As you said above, I fucked up, and as you suggested above, I'm not really gonna do stuff around here - it is just a hobby, same as you.  Maybe if someone one day cracks 2.8, I'll spoof a sockpuppet and upload some stuff, but that's probably a long ways away.  Hell, maybe someone might get to it before I will.  You had another guy doing all that shit before me after all.  That being said, it's obvious I missed some recent drama around here.  And if I'm not mistaken, I'm owed some words as a result of that drama.  I'm not looking for an apology, and definitely not asking for one.  I fully, wholly lost my gasket, and I won't worm my way out of that.  But for those same reasons, I won't apologize for it either.  I have no regrets as I was 120% right.  If ''someone'' had ''listened'' to what I had to say when I did, it could've been entirely avoided.  Hence, I'm owed at least a few words.  --[[Special:Contributions/173.170.159.16|173.170.159.16]] 19:44, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
:"I'll spoof a sockpuppet" -- Do not do that. Upload it to another KH fansite if you desire to, but absolutely do not violate the block if you care at all about the wiki.
:"Hence, I'm owed at least a few words." 'That guy jaywalked, therefore there should be no problems with me murdering him' is irrational. You were not blocked because the court chose Byz's story over yours, you were blocked because your actions were completely unacceptable.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:17, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
::Rofl.  You say that as he was ''brazenly trying to emotionally manipulate you'', doing exactly what I say he's been doing the entire time.  I don't give a ''fuck'' what you think about me.  This is very much about ''him'' now.  You didn't listen to me before, so let's see if you're gonna prove yourself as fucking dumb as Ninja.  Don't give an ''inch''.  You should now know better than anyone that he's ''full'' of shit.  Past his politeness and apparent compliance, he slipped up and even threatened you.  Now, he's gonna worm his way out of it.  He'll say whatever he thinks you want him to say to make it look like he's complying, like he's changed.  Then the same damn bullshit will happen with someone else.  Ninja's a moron who evidently suffers fools, but I want to believe you ain't the same.  I won't make any excuses for what I did, and I won't make any trouble anymore.  But, if you suffer him any longer, the one thing you feel accomplish is making me feel like a fucking moron - ''a genuine dipshit'' - for spending all that time, adding things, contributing, trying to make the wiki a little bit better.  If NOTHING ELSE, PLEASE don't do ''that''.  --[[Special:Contributions/173.170.159.16|173.170.159.16]] 20:32, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
:::Yeah, see, this kind of nonsense is why you were banned. You were told "hey, personal attacks, not okay", and your response is "but I feel ''very strongly'' about this fansite."
:::In the most compassionate possible way: go do something that doesn't put you into a murderous rage.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:36, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
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