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|text=[[File:Nobody.png|15px]]Well, from what I've heard and read, Master Xehanort has seen both Ventus, and Vanitas, and if Xemnas remembered it, then he could reference them to Sora and Roxas, right?}} | |text=[[File:Nobody.png|15px]]Well, from what I've heard and read, Master Xehanort has seen both Ventus, and Vanitas, and if Xemnas remembered it, then he could reference them to Sora and Roxas, right?}} | ||
"I've been to see him. He looks a lot like you." | |||
Xemnas to Roxas at the Dark Margin [[Special:Contributions/97.81.45.56|97.81.45.56]] 01:39, 8 February 2013 (UTC) Rex Ronald Rilander | |||
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Since it is stated in DDD that Xemnas has a piece of Master Xehanort's heart inside him, that technically means that he is still Terranort, since thay are both Terra's body + Xehanort's heart. | Since it is stated in DDD that Xemnas has a piece of Master Xehanort's heart inside him, that technically means that he is still Terranort, since thay are both Terra's body + Xehanort's heart. | ||
:Except Terra-Xehanort contains also Terra's heart, as well, and it does not state that for Xemnas, only for the other members.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 06:12, 4 May 2012 (UTC) | :Except Terra-Xehanort contains also Terra's heart, as well, and it does not state that for Xemnas, only for the other members.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 06:12, 4 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
::Actually they do state that Xemnas in DDD carries a piece of Xehanort's heart, as he is one of the 13, but your right, Terranort also carries Terra's heart and Eraqus' heart... | |||
::Yeah, I think the anon is right - I'm pretty sure Xemnas says he had a heart the entire time. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 20:56, 13 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::"Each individual was different, but some of us had hearts being born inside us." is not the same as "All of us had a piece of Xehanort's heart." They do say "All of them...Xehanort?", but since Xemnas would already be Xehanort...yeah.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:11, 15 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::Actually it is mentioned that they need 13 Hearts of Darkness and Xemnas is one of them, meaning he has a heart P.S. i do have an account I just forgot the password. | |||
::::So should we fuse Xemnas and Terranort? | |||
:::::Fusion would be ''way'' too far. They are separate characters, and Xemnas is still Xemnas regardless of whether he has a heart currently, has always had a heart, or is completely devoid of any heart. He lacks the hearts of Terra and Eraqus, so he is '''not''' Terra-Xehanort, no doubt about it. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 19:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Gallery or Forms == | |||
In my opinion, the section called Gallery should not be called so. We already have a page named Gallery:Xemnas, so that section on the main Xemnas page is unneeded. What the section actually should be called is Forms, seeing as it shows Xemnas in two different forms. This should go for many other pages as well. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 11:16, 17 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Keyblade == | |||
{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 18:23, 18 June 2012 (UTC)|xion=why does xemnas not have a keyblade when his original persona does. I thought that was how Roxas had a keyblade even though he was a nobody.}} | |||
{{ErryTalk|time=18:51, 18 June 2012 (UTC)|bayonetta=He probably has one but he prefers not to use it... at least that's what I'm assuming. Plus, you'd need a heart to wield a Keyblade, and with Roxas's situation, he had Ventus's heart. Xion only can wield the Keyblade due to being a replica of Sora.}} | |||
== DDD glitch - has anyone else seen this!? == | |||
Ok this is crazy. So I was fighting Xemnas in DDD, and he fell off of the building past the invisible barrier, about a minute passed, then he respawned or something at the top, and fell back down onto the building. Has anyone else ever encountered this bug? [[Special:Contributions/166.137.88.17|166.137.88.17]] 22:54, 14 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I think I have, yeah, but it was a long time ago.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:58, 14 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Transcription of Princesses' comments before Unknown fight == | |||
*'''Jasmine:''' "We could suppress the power if it were the darkness. But this is different. It's a force unlike the darkness..." | |||
*'''Snow White:''' "There's an ominous presence beyond the gate. | |||
*'''Alice:''' "What is this feeling? It's different from the darkness... Be careful, Sora!" | |||
*'''Cinderella:''' "Could the appearance of that gate be a bad omen?" | |||
*'''Aurora:''' "I sense a presence coming from that gate... But it's not the darkness. It's another power altogether." | |||
If anybody cares. [[User:Pink Agaricus|Pink Agaricus]] ([[User talk:Pink Agaricus|talk]]) 09:51, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
== All-Vanity == | |||
is based on Omnia Vanitas, "All is vanity", from Ecclesiastes. Should probably be mentioned somewhere, like etymology.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} | |||
That's fine.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:36, 7 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
==Keyblade Armor== | |||
Xemnas uses Keyblade Armor in KH2. Doesn't that confirm that he has the ability to wield a Keyblade? --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 10:41, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Has it ever been called Keyblade Armor? I think it's just regular armor. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 22:47, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:When was it ever said that you ''need'' a Keyblade to wear Keyblade Armor? Far as I can tell, it just seems like an accessory. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 04:30, 6 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
Was it not Xemnas' Keyblade Armor? Looks exactly like it, so I always assumed that it was. --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 23:45, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:It's not ''explicitly'' called Keyblade Armor, so we can't make that claim. It's pretty clear it is, though.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:31, 6 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
==Source?== | |||
What's the source for this information?: <br/> | |||
"and retreats into the broken Kingdom Hearts", <br/> | |||
"Xemnas's "The World of Nothing", a pocket dimension presided over by a massive, weaponized construct which has absorbed the remainder of The World That Never Was." <br/> | |||
--[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 07:43, 6 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:"The World of Nothing" is the name of the set of rooms in which the final battle with Xemnas takes place. It's in the game-coding, but only visible by using a room-mod code. That the dragon has abosrbed the rest of TWTNW is based on the visuals of the battle, where the dragon and its base are made of Dark City/TCTNW.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:00, 6 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
::What's the source for Xemnas retreating into the broken Kingdom Hearts and what's the source for it being a pocket dimension? --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 22:01, 6 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::"Mickey: Kingdom Hearts... / Riku: Let's go. Xemnas must be inside." Key word being "inside", not "on the other side".{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 00:22, 7 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm pretty sure they were just talking about inside the door, not inside Kingdom Hearts. I've never heard someone say "let's go to the other side of that door", I've only heard people say "let's go inside that door". I guess you can interpret it either way, but I don't quite see how "Let's go. Xemnas must be inside" equals "Xemnas has gone inside his Kingdom Hearts which is inside a pocket dimension." --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 01:47, 9 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::I've heard "let's go through the door", not "inside" it. The game itself says "The Final Door: Xemnas, the last member of Organization XIII, vanished '''through''' | |||
the final door". In addition, when they defeat Xemnas on the other side of the door, they reappear back outside the door, where they started, which wouldn't make a ton of sense if they had simply gone to a different location and would, presumably, not get automatically cast ''back'' through the door if it was just a regular physical place -- when Sora went through the door at the end of End of the World, which took him to a different location, and that world collapsed, he ended up in a new place close to the collapsed location, rather than being cast back through the door. The fact that it's called "inside", and that they are expelled after Xemnas is weakened, strongly implies it's an inner world created by Xemnas -- just like TWTNW was in the first place, or what they do in KH3D with the nesting TWTNW dreams. | |||
::::::It makes more sense if it's an inner world, similar to the Dive to the Heart, whose "physical" location is inside the Kingdom Hearts that Xemnas merged with.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:34, 9 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Title == | |||
Just for posterity, KHUX has made "Superior of the In-Between" the official, complete title. It's no longer just our translation.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:40, 13 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
:It's been official since Days 1.5 opening... ''[[User:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#002395 ;">Ultima Spark</span>]]'' '''[[User talk:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#007FFF ;">(talk)</span>]]''' [[File:Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png|17px]] 16:11, 13 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
::Oh, well then fuck me. LOL.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:08, 13 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
== [[Gazing Eye]] == | |||
Well, we finally have a good reason why Terra-Xehanort may have purposefully chosen not to summon his Keyblade, given it has the Gazing Eye on it.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:36, 18 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
:I don't see how it relates. Like, what does the Master of Masters being able to foresee affect? Xemnas would have no reason to fear him, since he wouldn't even have a reason to assume he's alive. Also, Nomura confirmed on January 12's Famitsu that the Master of Masters won't be in KHIII (or even KHUX season 2. We'll probably only see him again in the next saga, as there's hints KHUX will connect to it somehow unless Nomura wants to make him a perpetual mystery), so I'm not really sure if that being the reason would actually affect the plot in any way. | |||
:The most accepted theory I've seen is that Xemnas had to hide he was a Keyblade wielder from the Organization, or else they would question why they needed 13 members and the last one had to be a wielder if Xemnas could simply complete Kingdom Hearts by himself. {{User:G-SANtos/Sig}} 02:08, 19 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
::If Terra was aware of the purpose of the eye, he may have tried to suppress its use -- or maybe Xehanort himself is rebelling against the Master in some ways. However, that's just a theory I've seen making the rounds.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:56, 19 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Xehanort's Soul == | |||
It took Ansem and Xemnas being destroyed for Master Xehanort to be re-completed, Xemnas would only be needed for the re-completion if he possessed one of Xehanort's attributes, Ansem had the heart and Xemnas had Terra's body, not Xehanort's, so Xemnas must possess Xehanort's soul. Thus, Xemnas having Xehanort's soul should be on the page I feel. --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 19:50, 14 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
:I get where you're coming from but adding that would be speculation as it's not confirmed. Souls also isn't really a thing in KH. - {{User:JTD95/Signature}} | |||
::Wasn't it said that when a person split the Heart went to the Heartless while the Body and Soul went to the Nobody? --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 22:07, 14 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
:::Checked with what the Nobody page on the wiki said and you're right. I guess due to the soul part hardly being mentioned it's easy to forget about. I'm still unsure though of whether we can prove that Xemnas has Xehanort's soul. ~ - {{User:JTD95/Signature}} 22:42, 14 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
::::Well he needs to have a component of Xehanort to be necessary for re-completion, and the only one he could possibly have is his soul. Wouldn't that logic be proof enough? --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 22:54, 14 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
:::::In my eyes, logic and speculation are the same thing when it comes to the Kingdom Hearts series. I once tried to use logic in a discussion, back before I was even a user. It didn't go too well. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 06:16, 15 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
::::::Same here. It makes sense to me, which means it's probably non-canonical.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:25, 15 March 2019 (UTC) | |||