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 Please remember to sign your posts with the these <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. Also, since the game is in Japanese, it's only available in Japan. The wiki users hardly know about it as the next person. We do our best by collecting information from those who, but even then, it's take a long time and it's a rather tedious task. However, if you read the article, there's a link there directing you to ''[[Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ]]'', which is set to release internationally. It's the game on the for iOS and Android smartphones.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:12, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
+Collecting the information is no problem at all, there are many sources of information and even complete translations. The main problem is that I, like everybody else here, don't have the time to write extensive mission and story summaries. Please also keep in mind that the game isn't finished yet, so not every mystery is answered at the moment. You can find a short summary of the main events written by Blackdrazon [http://forums.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-chi/204981-kingdom-hearts-x-chi-story-so-far.html here] and a detailed translation of every mission by KHInsider [http://www.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-x/worlds here]. There is also a translated walkthrough by Everglow available on [https://youtu.be/_CvNMdMJQyA?list=PLhcSrKyqhfh5gWWmRv4rISACTyrZbPPsS youtube]. This should keep you covered and get you up-to-date. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 08:41, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 ==Confirmation==
 Hi guys, I heard KHX is official cannon, this is true? If it is I want to know, if the events are BEFORE BbS, how Alice, Aladdin, Hercules, Mickey, Emblem Heartless and others exist in this era if was CENTURIES before BbS. All this make me think the game is no-canon.
 Thanks for the answer :)--[[Special:Contributions/189.39.241.193|189.39.241.193]] 00:52, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
+Well, yes, that's true. However, since the game is available on Japan, the wiki isn't able to answer the latter.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:44, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
+Some of your questions are already answered, but not all since the game releases new story bits every months. The topic above yours contains three ways to get into the story very fast, the most important questions are also answered on this talk page or on the several pages concerning [chi] we already have. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 08:41, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
+==Lacking Synopsis + Other Details==
+Hello, so recently I've been following Kingdom Hearts Chi pretty closely and was just wondering why this page lacks all the synopsis information? And some events in the game don't appear on the wiki - such as Player's battle with Master Ava, and the 1st and 2nd Anniversary events where Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Chip and Dale appeared in Daybreak Town (just copies from the future, pretty much the same situation as the Heartless and other worlds apart from Daybreak Town). For the most part that doesn't matter, but I do think it's worth mentioning at the very least - I mean Mickey was confronted by the Anguis Foreteller in the 1st Anniversary event, I feel as though it's all meant to be a part of the story as well. I'm just so confused as to why everything is lacking here. As a side note why does it say that Beast's Castle and Enchanted Dominion are worlds of Chi in the box at the bottom of the page? I've yet to see either world appear. ([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 06:31, 3 October 2015 (UTC))
+:The [chi] articles lacking information is not intentional, there are simply too few people who play this game on the wiki and then write articles, summaries and descriptions but all the different aspects of the game and the language barrier isn't helping either. Hopefully this will change a bit when Unchained gets an international release (could by any month now) but nevertheless everyone is invited to help out in the mean (and all other) time(s).
+:As for Beast's Castle and Enchanted Dominion: The game's data contains unreleased Heartless, Keyblades and the logos of those two worlds, that's why they were included in the beginning. But I'm not sure if we will ever see them live so I will remove the information. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 08:13, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
+So would it be alright if I write a synopsis for what's happened in Chi so far? I wouldn't go into much detail about the events in visited worlds, moreso the main story in Daybreak Town - at least for this page. And would you want the newer advancements in the plot here as well, rather than in Unchained Chi? ([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 12:28, 3 October 2015 (UTC))
+:Of course that would be alright. The only rule is that there shouldn't be any speculation about story details that haven't be released yet. Kingdom Hearts coded and Re:coded also have pretty much the same story, so it's almost similiar on both these pages, so I guess that won't be any different for [chi] and Unchained either. Since the game page should cover the whole game some details for the Disney worlds are probably requiered if they advance the plot, if you just want to add story of Daybreak Town you can write it on the world's own [[:Daybreak Town|page]] instead. Ideally, every world that is part of [chi] and Unchained should have a story summary. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 13:59, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
+==Beast's Castle==
+Why does someone keep deleting the characters from Beast's Castle? You can see Beast, Belle, Lumiere and Cogsworth in the screenshots from Beast's Castle gameplay. If that's not confirmation then I don't know what is. Mrs. Potts and Chip's roles have also been confirmed in a release of the first part of the synopsis - so deleting that I suppose is understandable, but the rest is valid.
+([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 17:20, 5 November 2015 (UTC))
+:The reason the characters were deleted is that nobody provided any source, until now. Also, it might be a better idea to link to the images off-site, because they don't really have a purpose on the wiki and will probably get deleted. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:51, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
+::No, it's not confirmation, for the same reason the screenshot of the Twilight Thorn in KH3D wasn't confirmation. This is clearly explained in the manual of style. If you want to know what confirmation is, it's (1) owning the finished game and seeing the characters within, or (2) production staff saying, on the record, "this is definitely going to be in the finished game, absolutely for sure, we're not just "planning" or "thinking" about putting it in." For example, Nomura saying "Yeah, Frozen is very popular, we should put it in." is NOT confirmation. Nomura saying "We are including characters from Frozen in KH3" would be.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:20, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
+:::Personally, I think KHx shouldn't follow those rules since it is already partly released, and only gets new updates, so it's not like they could still change a lot of things. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 21:15, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
+::::[[:File:Divine Rose (Base) KHX.png|This]], though. Granted, the inclusion of Beast's Castle has actually made it likely that that Keychain will end up being used, but KHX is just as able as the other games to have unused content. We've had this discussion every few months since the wiki started, it feels, and every time a game comes out we get more and more examples of materials that appeared and were even ''[[Wind Maker|named]]'' in promotional materials, but totally, absolutely, undeniably, incontrovertibly failed to show up in the actual published game. I don't want to scare off new users by forcing them to undergo the {{w|Ludovico technique}} with the words "It ain't confirmed until the game's released" interspersed with horrifying images before they can edit, but I'm so. gotdamn. tired. of having to keep giving this lecture despite us having a [[Removed content|massive, well-maintained article]] on exactly why the policy is necessary.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:17, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
+:::::True, but that image was from before the game's first release (I think). With a regular game, like KH3D or Days, that takes years to develop, there may be some things shown that will ultimately be removed. But with the KHx updates, which occur every couple of weeks, there isn't enough time to add something to the game, show it to the players, and then go back and remove it all again. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 07:53, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
+::::::No, Shard hacked it from the game, and we made the same assumption that if the data was there, the Keyblade was about to show up.
+::::::I'm putting my foot down. This is a stupid argument that bites us in the ass every time we show it some leniency. We will not be treating topics as confirmed without written confirmation, or the actual release of the game. WE ARE NOT A NEWS SITE.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:48, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
+:::::::To be fair I didn't "hack" anything, it was all there, things just change constantly in χ[chi] and by that I mean every two weeks or so, descriptions are altered, attacks replaced, enemies switched, stuff gets removed and added all the time like with every other online game on the planet. It's just not really easy to keep up with it when you're practically the only person on the wiki who plays this game. I agree though that the Keyblades should have been removed sooner when it was clear that they won't appear for a very long time.
+:::::::For the record: All Disney characters from KHII also appear in χ[chi], the Divine Rose Keyblade can now be acquired and the Gargoyle Knight finally makes his entrance, there are also three new synthesis items and a lot of new maps. I will upload all this stuff as soon as I can. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 10:25, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
+::::::::So, who's left, Cinderella and Aurora? Huh. By any chance, since KHX is visiting all the princesses before the Keyblade War proper, does it at all indicate how they were chosen?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:41, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
+:::::::::Not all all, Chirithy doesn't seem to know what a princess is either, it often just references them as a "special light" (at least Alice and Snow White, Jasmine didn't appear yet and there was no such comment made for Belle) while not explaining what's so special about them. So it's not really part of the story at the moment, maybe when we touch the subject of the 7th princess in the future, I don't know. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 15:44, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
+::::::::::...that's...huh. What is the ''point'' of making almost all of the worlds Princess related in a game about the leadup to the Keyblade War, if you just ignore them? Is there ''any'' mention of why certain worlds appear?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:24, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
+:::::::::::No, but that's because most of the plot of [chi] is not explained yet. Currently the Disney worlds are just a means for the Foretellers to collect Lux which is in turn needed to summon Kingdom Hearts (at least that's what news of Backcover are hinting at). --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 17:20, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
+:There, that took what, two days? We lost nothing by waiting two days until the characters were actually added to the published game.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}}