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::::::::::@Webber22: Where did you get that image? Because we need Keychain images for all KH3D Keyblades. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 12:04, 7 June 2015 (UTC)::::::::
::::::::::@Webber22: Where did you get that image? Because we need Keychain images for all KH3D Keyblades. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 12:04, 7 June 2015 (UTC)::::::::
:::::::::::Lol, I just cropped it from the render we had.  As for the rest of them, I think it's just a matter of time.  Some folks over at XeNTaX have managed to crack the rom image but still working out some speed bumps.  Now, I have a question about the Foreteller key blades....I think we're gonna need a new info box altogether for them?  I tried making one yesterday and it was a total mess.  --[[User:Webber22|Webber22]] ([[User talk:Webber22|talk]]) 14:13, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::Lol, I just cropped it from the render we had.  As for the rest of them, I think it's just a matter of time.  Some folks over at XeNTaX have managed to crack the rom image but still working out some speed bumps.  Now, I have a question about the Foreteller key blades....I think we're gonna need a new info box altogether for them?  I tried making one yesterday and it was a total mess.  --[[User:Webber22|Webber22]] ([[User talk:Webber22|talk]]) 14:13, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::Oh, and of course, I still vote that we should remove Vanitas's Void Gear from the...erm, Void Gear page altogether and make a separate one.  His variation is, if nothing else, at least unique enough for that.  (Like the difference between Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D...I guess?)--[[User:Webber22|Webber22]] ([[User talk:Webber22|talk]]) 14:15, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
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The Foreteller Keyblades will use InfoKeyKHX, but I need to make a few changes to it first. The difference between the Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D is that they are two different Keyblades, while the Void Gear and Vanitas's Void Gear are the same. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:06, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
:I'm not at all opposed to having more than one image in the infobox; it's more the issue of showing incomplete versions in the infobox. I don't want to eventually have the infobox include the incomplete Graveyard Sleeping Lion, the Soul Eater (on WttD), the incomplete KHX Lady Luck, or Data-Sora's shattered Data-Keyblade, that kind of thing. Clearly we have precedent to allow TVA-style Keychain variants, so I'd be happy enough incorporating the Foretellers into that. For Vanitas...erg. It would make sense to incorporate his version, Foreteller-style, but having a TVA tab and a Vanitas tab just feels inelegant to me, and it would beg us to also include stuff like:
*Kingdom Key D (KH1 Mickey, KHCoM Mickey, KH3D Mickey)
*Kingdom Key (KH1 Riku and Anti-Sora, KHCoM Zexion)
*Destiny's Embrace (KH2 Riku and Kairi)
*Earthshaker (KHBbS Mimic Master)
*Ends of the Earth (KH2 Lingering Will)
*Rainfell (KHBbS Mimic Master)
*Stormfall (KH2 Aqua)
*Wayward Wind (KHBbS Mimic Master)
*Oblivion (KHD Riku and Anti-Riku)
*Star Seeker (KHRec Mickey, KHBbS Mickey, KHX Mickey)
*MX Keyblade (KHBbS No Heart and Terra-Xehanort)
*Master's Defender (KHBbS Armor of Eraqus and Master Eraqus)
*Starlight (KHX Ephemera)
:We keep Vanitas's Void Gear in the gallery and we avoid ''all'' that.
:I'm not strongly opposed to including the concept art, it just feels weird. I'd be happiest if the infobox simply didn't have an image until we had a render, but I have no desire to push that issue.
:For Void Gear, the issue is that the sole time the Keychain's been identified by Nomura, he treated it as identical to the keychains the protagonists receive. Honestly, given the theme naming (which is shared with No Name and the whole No Heart thing), there's not much reason to assume that the "true name" of Vanitas's version ''is'' different. Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D, on the other hand, have different pages not because of their graphical difference (after all, the KHBbS and KHX keychains all have graphical differences), but because the fiction explicitly identifies them as unique Keychains, names and all. If Nomura ever changes that, or even just says something like "they didn't receive Vanitas's keychain, they received one mimicking the Remnant's attempted mimicry", that would be enough to split, but until then, there's not really a good argument for it that wouldn't demand splitting all of Terra/Ventus/Aqua's variants or the KHX Keyblade enhancements.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:17, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
::I agree with keeping the Void Gear in the gallery, although in your examples above, the Keyblades all look the same as the obtained ones, while Vanitas's Void Gear has different colors. (And we already have KHD Riku's Oblivion in the infobox).
::I finished the InfoKeyKHX template. Tabbing the images in the template itself will probably not fit, since the names are pretty long and there are five of them. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:42, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
:::Teeeeechnically, Anti-Sora's Kingdom Key and Anti-Riku's Oblivion, Riku/Kairi's Destiny's Embrace, and the KH2 Ends of the Earth and Stormfall differ in design.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 22:36, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
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