|
|
| Line 75: |
Line 75: |
|
| |
|
| == Issues with article == | | == Issues with article == |
| | *"Appearances" section should be reworked into "Story" |
| | **Needs to be in-universe (No "In Kingdom Hearts II", etc.) |
| | **"Furthermore, a Moogle falls on Donald Duck after completing Neverland." -- the Furthermore sounds ridiculous. |
| | **"An unnamed Moogle" -- Moogles, as a general rule, are unnamed. "Unnamed" should not be used as a descriptor, since it doesn't specify anything. Only the named ones should be called out. |
| | **"When Sora speaks to the Moogle in the First District in Traverse Town, it is revealed that Pinocchio enjoys ruffling the Moogles' pom-poms." -- change to "According to the Moogle in the First District[link], Pinocchio etc." |
| | **"—The Organization Moogle, quoting Xemnas when asked what its name is." -- change to, "The Moogle, channeling Xemnas." |
| | **"In Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, a Moogle appears in various locations throughout the worlds, always donning a Black Cloak." -- this is incorrect. It appears only at the Grey Room and the Station Plaza. |
| | **Each section should include a divved table, based on SorcererNobody's draft (as used on Avatar Menu) that details all the things the Moogle sells, synthesizes, or redeems. SN's draft has this done for Days already, I believe. |
| | ***"In order to unlock The King and Sora for playability the Multiplayer Mode, they must be purchased from the Moogle." -- would be unnecessary. |
| | ***The section should have a quick summary of the types of items that can be obtained from each method, if that is feasible. Something like what is done with [[Treasure Chest]]. |
| | **"While the Moogle appears to hold some relationship to Organization XIII, as exemplified by its black coat, it is unknown if it is affiliated with them. For example, the Moogle flees the Organization with Roxas, saying that he would miss all the munny he spends at his shop, seemingly more interested in simply collecting munny rather than serving Organization XIII." -- WRONG. |
| | ***It clearly has a relationship, it is set up in their lounge. |
| | ***This should be worded to focus more on that it does not ''serve Xemnas'', and instead followed its best Org. customer, Roxas, due to its love of munny. |
| | **"In Kingdom Hearts II, the Moogles use holograms to run their synthesis shops, except for Mog in Radiant Garden and Elmina in Twilight Town. According to Jiminy's Journal, it is because they hate getting their pom-poms ruffled." -- I believe Moogles have hologram shops in BbS, too, indicating that this is the natural way. This should be in the lead, with a direct citation to the Journal. Something like, "Moogles usually operate their shops on other worlds through hologram, as they dislike customers ruffling their Pom-poms." |
| | **"The Moogles also appear outside of synthesis shops as well. While on Destiny Islands, Selphie's purse has a Moogle clip attached to it. In addition, there is a special Gummi ship modeled after a Moogle." -- should be in other appearances, or something similar. |
| | *"Appearance" needs to be "Design", and should be combined with "Origin" |
| | *Party navbox should be removed. |
| | *World-based categories should be removed, since Moogles appear on pretty much all worlds. |
| | *We need a rip of the Moogle Gummi Ship |
| | *Dissidia section is missing mention of the Mognet, and we should see if the Mognet has references to the KHverse. |
|
| |
|
| HUGE ISSUE: "Appearances" and "Appearance"
| | {{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:03, 30 May 2011 (EDT) |
| KrytenKoro unacceptable
| |
| KrytenKoro DNT
| |
| KrytenKoro DTN
| |
| KrytenKoro unacceptable
| |
| DoorToNothing (?)
| |
| KrytenKoro There are two main sections
| |
| KrytenKoro one is "Appearances"
| |
| KrytenKoro the next is "Appearance"
| |
| KrytenKoro that's awful
| |
| KrytenKoro simply awful
| |
| DoorToNothing Oh.
| |
| KrytenKoro if it is meant to be a story section, it should be written as such
| |
| DoorToNothing ...
| |
| DoorToNothing KrytenKoro, how could you let this happen?
| |
| KrytenKoro especially considered the sections are in story order
| |
| Neumannz LAAAAAAAWL
| |
| KrytenKoro "Furthermore, a Moogle falls on Donald Duck after completing Neverland. "
| |
| DoorToNothing Shame unto thine ancestors!
| |
| KrytenKoro that's shitty
| |
| Neumannz ROFLMOFL
| |
| KrytenKoro "An unnamed Moogle"
| |
| KrytenKoro Moogles, as a rule, are unnamed
| |
| KrytenKoro we should only take note when they ARE named, like in KH2
| |
| DoorToNothing Counterpoint: KH2
| |
| KrytenKoro all other instances, just say, "A moogle"
| |
| KrytenKoro "When Sora speaks to the Moogle in the First District in Traverse Town, it is revealed that Pinocchio enjoys ruffling the Moogles' pom-poms. "
| |
| KrytenKoro just say "According to the Moogle in the First District[link], Pinocchio etc."
| |
| KrytenKoro "—The Organization Moogle, quoting Xemnas when asked what its name is. "
| |
| KrytenKoro quoting is incorrect
| |
| KrytenKoro "channeling" is more accurate
| |
| KrytenKoro "when asked what its name is" is probably patronizing
| |
| KrytenKoro "In Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, a Moogle appears in various locations throughout the worlds, always donning a Black Cloak."
| |
| KrytenKoro It do not
| |
| KrytenKoro It appears in the Grey Room
| |
| KrytenKoro and at the Station Plaza
| |
| KrytenKoro "In order to unlock The King and Sora for playability the Multiplayer Mode, they must be purchased from the Moogle. "
| |
| KrytenKoro These should simply be listed among the items it sells
| |
| KrytenKoro also, it should be mentioned that it runs an HP shop, and redeems Challenge Sigils and Mission Crowns
| |
| KrytenKoro "While the Moogle appears to hold some relationship to Organization XIII, as exemplified by its black coat, it is unknown if it is affiliated with them. For example, the Moogle flees the Organization with Roxas, saying that he would miss all the munny he spends at his shop, seemingly more interested in simply collecting munny rather than serving Organization XIII. "
| |
| KrytenKoro is wrong-headed
| |
| KrytenKoro it clearly has a relationship with them
| |
| KrytenKoro it set up shop in their damn lounge
| |
| KrytenKoro should be worded more that it does not appear to SERVE XEMNAS, seeing as it followed its best customer in the Org., Roxas, rather than staying at the Headquarters
| |
| Neumannz ok, done with adding clear2
| |
| KrytenKoro perhaps tying into its personality of unfettered greed
| |
| KrytenKoro "In Kingdom Hearts II, the Moogles use holograms to run their synthesis shops, except for Mog in Radiant Garden and Elmina in Twilight Town. According to Jiminy's Journal, it is because they hate getting their pom-poms ruffled. "
| |
| KrytenKoro something like
| |
| KrytenKoro "After the worlds were restored, the Moogles once again set up their shops across the worlds."
| |
| KrytenKoro wait
| |
| KrytenKoro wait wait
| |
| KrytenKoro do they use holograms in BbS:?
| |
| KrytenKoro How do they operate in BbS?
| |
| KrytenKoro if they do it in BbS, then it shouldbe assumed to be their natural behavior, and placed in the lead, with a citation to the journal
| |
| KrytenKoro "The Moogles also appear outside of synthesis shops as well. While on Destiny Islands, Selphie's purse has a Moogle clip attached to it. In addition, there is a special Gummi ship modeled after a Moogle. "
| |
| KrytenKoro that is not Moogles
| |
| KrytenKoro that is other appearances
| |
| KrytenKoro or something
| |
| KrytenKoro trivia, if necessary
| |
| KrytenKoro but it is not their plot info
| |
| KrytenKoro Origin and Appearance should be combined into Design
| |
| KrytenKoro And it would be WONDERFUL if the Shop, Redeem, and Synthesis lists from each of the games could be added to each section of the plot
| |
| KrytenKoro SorcererNobody's Guide has the Days one's done, I think
| |
| KrytenKoro Also, what is a "mured Moogle"?
| |
| Neumannz that would be cid of the lufane...?
| |
| DoorToNothing Yes.
| |
| KrytenKoro right, but what the hell does "Mured" mean?
| |
| DoorToNothing While trapped in the Insano Realm.
| |
| Neumannz look it up
| |
| DoorToNothing doesn't know.
| |
| Neumannz en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mured
| |
| DoorToNothing I actually asked a mod from FFWiki who is obsessed with Dissidia 012 to write that section.
| |
| ErryK Done with all the treasure chests.
| |
| KrytenKoro wiktionary calls it "walled"
| |
| KrytenKoro a walled Moogle?
| |
| KrytenKoro does the game seriously call it "Mured"?
| |
| Neumannz he is confined, so to speak
| |
| KrytenKoro oh
| |
| KrytenKoro Imprisoned, gotcha
| |
| KrytenKoro ...crazy dubbers
| |
| KrytenKoro anyway
| |
| KrytenKoro Finally
| |
| KrytenKoro why does the Moogle have the "Party" navbox?
| |
| Neumannz ...because of FFVI?
| |
| ErryK Do we want the world cards from Re:coded?
| |
| KrytenKoro on our wiki
| |
| KrytenKoro yes
| |
| KrytenKoro yes we do
| |
| DoorToNothing slaps Neumannzy.
| |
| KrytenKoro we want all those things
| |
| -->| Silversey (~ENUO@99-194-64-139.dyn.centurytel.net) has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
| |
| KrytenKoro OH!
| |
| KrytenKoro wait, one last thing:
| |
| ErryK I'll show you what I mean.
| |
| KrytenKoro No, I know
| |
| Neumannz whaaaaaaaaaat
| |
| KrytenKoro the ones you get before clearing the CO floor
| |
| KrytenKoro the ones you get from D Roxas
| |
| KrytenKoro "Traverse Town | Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden | The World that Never was | Twilight Town | Mirage Arena"
| |
| KrytenKoro Ridiculous
| |
| ErryK Bluuuuuuuuuuuuuuurgh, can't see them.
| |
| KrytenKoro Moogles appear on all worlds
| |
| KrytenKoro It makes no sense to link all of them like that
| |
| ErryK I think they mean the real ones...
| |
| ErryK Not the holograms.
| |
| KrytenKoro now, if we wanted to have redirects for each of the NAMED moogles, then those pages could have the cats
| |
| KrytenKoro but
| |
| KrytenKoro It's just a mess to have them all on the Moogle page
| |
| KrytenKoro wait
| |
| KrytenKoro wait wait wait
| |
| KrytenKoro FUCK
| |
| KrytenKoro Are we planning on having a Moogle Shop article too, or just Moogles?
| |
| KrytenKoro I mean, I could see going either way
| |
| KrytenKoro OH FUCK WE NEED A RIP OF THE MOOGLE GUMMI SHIP
| |
| KrytenKoro Oh and
| |
| KrytenKoro "Dissidia Final Fantasy"
| |
| KrytenKoro section is missing Mognet
| |
| KrytenKoro ...which we should honestly check the letters for KH references
| |
| KrytenKoro hmm.
| |
| |<-- SilverCrono has left freenode (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
| |
| KrytenKoro anyway
| |
| KrytenKoro those are all the issues I can see
| |
| KrytenKoro the actual spelling and grammar look fine, for the most part
| |
| KrytenKoro but
| |
| ErryK GOT IT.
| |
| KrytenKoro the page basically needs a massive rewrite
| |
| KrytenKoro I will post this log on the talk page
| |