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 :::::::The evidence that I outlined a few posts up is absolutely solid, I see no reason to doubt it. If it was a single piece of evidence, maybe, but we have multiple sources of evidence that can all be cross-referenced, and that are all very solid if you look into it.  --[[User:DChiuch|DChiuch]] ([[User talk:DChiuch|talk]]) 17:31, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 :::::::::Sorry man, but that stuff is just too easy to fake.  :(  A couple of years ago, I trolled the FF community regarding a Type-0 stateside release, with all the bells and whistles.  If you want the confirmed existence of something that is dubious, you need at least three individual sources that can be corroborated, preferably in direct contact - ideally, each contact assigned to a different person.  To further make it concrete, these contacts should all be consulted by different sites.  Fragmented Keys was only covered by you guys, only has a single contact with an extremely suspect portfolio to begin with, and the included "screenshot" contains JPEG artifacts forming a sort of "halo" around the logo - something that can only come from image editing resources.  In contrast, an actual game screenshot would utilize image compression with the same pixel ratio as the rest of the individual assets on the image, even IF compressed to a JPEG resolution, like Famitsu does.  Like I said man, I pulled this stunt before myself and I can recognize it a mile away.  :<  But all the same, I'm all for putting up a page - IF we can get enough concrete evidence on it.  This is a wiki based on factual information, so for all intents and purposes, we follow the rules of journalistic integrity...right?  So, there are certain standards we gotta abide by.  Ask any other site out there, from KHInsider, to KH-Vids - it doesn't even HAVE to be KH oriented, and they'll tell you the same thing. Pete Campbell from KHU now works as a professional editor and AT consultant; he'll tell you the same thing.  And I ''know'' you know him and are cool with him. --[[User:Webber22|Webber22]] ([[User talk:Webber22|talk]]) 20:07, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
+::::::::::It would be easy to fake some content, sure – but it's NOT easy to get 11 Disney employees to list the title on their LinkedIn, to get a major animation studio (GFL Animation) to list the game and concept art on their LinkedIn and websites, and to get a confirmed Disney beta tester to post a fake screenshot on reddit. Absolutely none of that would be easy to do. Tell me how ANY of those could be faked, and then tell me how they can ALL be fake together, it's just impossible.
+::::::::::You are trying to disprove the whole thing by pointing out little quality things, while addressing none of the solid evidence. It's not just a single source, in addition to the GFL Animation thing and the person from the Disney beta testing program, we also have all of these employees: [there's the first one that removed their profile, he requested that I remove him from this story so I won't link to him] [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rrivera 2] [https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-sengele-32232929?authType=name&authToken=AM9Y&trk=prof-proj-cc-name 3] [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-watson-88420b65?authType=name&authToken=hC27&trk=prof-proj-cc-name 4] [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomketola?authType=name&authToken=Q_L8&trk=prof-proj-cc-name 5] [https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-loane-86286912?authType=name&authToken=aKBd&trk=prof-proj-cc-name 6] [https://www.linkedin.com/in/danladuca?authType=name&authToken=4B8Y&trk=prof-proj-cc-name 7] [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rolandherran?authType=name&authToken=b-RF&trk=prof-proj-cc-name 8] [https://www.linkedin.com/in/cedric-busse-45661b?authType=name&authToken=zGzw&trk=prof-proj-cc-name 9]. Note that some of these people list it as "Unannounced Mobile Game for Disney Interactive", while some multiple the exact same project as "Kingdom Hearts Fragmented Keys", they can all be cross-referenced. Tell me that ALL of these profiles are fake (even though they go years back and are linked to from the employees other social media channels) AND that GFL Animation Studios is fake (even though they appear in the credits for several motion pictures, and that their Kingdom Hearts Fragmented Keys concept art page was online multiple months before this story ever broke). Just saying "oh this pixel here is off" or "this is terrible DeviantART quality" is not an argument for it being fake, unless you address all of this solid evidence and provide an alternate explanation.
+::::::::::PS: I find your comments about journalistic integrity bizarre. I don't have to ask other sites to know journalistic integrity exists and is important, obviously we know that and it plays a role in KH13. That's why we did our due diligence in researching the story, considered the possibility that it could be fake, found that it couldn't and only then reported the story, laying all of the evidence out there. Does it matter that I know Pete, and that he has a respectable profession with standards? I could tell you all my real life stuff and career but let's not make this about reputation, let's actually examine the evidence. --[[User:DChiuch|DChiuch]] ([[User talk:DChiuch|talk]]) 06:20, 30 April 2016 (UTC)