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==Beast's Castle==
==Beast's Castle==
Why does someone keep deleting the characters from Beast's Castle? You can see Beast, Belle, Lumiere and Cogsworth in the screenshots from Beast's Castle gameplay. If that's not confirmation then I don't know what is. Mrs. Potts and Chip's roles have also been confirmed in a release of the first part of the synopsis - so deleting that I suppose is understandable, but the rest is valid.
Why does someone keep deleting the characters from Beast's Castle? You can see Beast, Belle, Lumiere and Cogsworth in the screenshots from Beast's Castle gameplay. If that's not confirmation then I don't know what is. Mrs. Potts and Chip's roles have also been confirmed in a release of the first part of the synopsis - so deleting that I suppose is understandable, but the rest is valid.
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([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 17:20, 5 November 2015 (UTC))
([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 17:20, 5 November 2015 (UTC))
:The reason the characters were deleted is that nobody provided any source, until now. Also, it might be a better idea to link to the images off-site, because they don't really have a purpose on the wiki and will probably get deleted. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:51, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
:The reason the characters were deleted is that nobody provided any source, until now. Also, it might be a better idea to link to the images off-site, because they don't really have a purpose on the wiki and will probably get deleted. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:51, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
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:::Personally, I think KHx shouldn't follow those rules since it is already partly released, and only gets new updates, so it's not like they could still change a lot of things. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 21:15, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
:::Personally, I think KHx shouldn't follow those rules since it is already partly released, and only gets new updates, so it's not like they could still change a lot of things. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 21:15, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
::::[[:File:Divine Rose (Base) KHX.png|This]], though. Granted, the inclusion of Beast's Castle has actually made it likely that that Keychain will end up being used, but KHX is just as able as the other games to have unused content. We've had this discussion every few months since the wiki started, it feels, and every time a game comes out we get more and more examples of materials that appeared and were even ''[[Wind Maker|named]]'' in promotional materials, but totally, absolutely, undeniably, incontrovertibly failed to show up in the actual published game. I don't want to scare off new users by forcing them to undergo the {{w|Ludovico technique}} with the words "It ain't confirmed until the game's released" interspersed with horrifying images before they can edit, but I'm so. gotdamn. tired. of having to keep giving this lecture despite us having a [[Removed content|massive, well-maintained article]] on exactly why the policy is necessary.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:17, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
::::[[:File:Divine Rose (Base) KHX.png|This]], though. Granted, the inclusion of Beast's Castle has actually made it likely that that Keychain will end up being used, but KHX is just as able as the other games to have unused content. We've had this discussion every few months since the wiki started, it feels, and every time a game comes out we get more and more examples of materials that appeared and were even ''[[Wind Maker|named]]'' in promotional materials, but totally, absolutely, undeniably, incontrovertibly failed to show up in the actual published game. I don't want to scare off new users by forcing them to undergo the {{w|Ludovico technique}} with the words "It ain't confirmed until the game's released" interspersed with horrifying images before they can edit, but I'm so. gotdamn. tired. of having to keep giving this lecture despite us having a [[Removed content|massive, well-maintained article]] on exactly why the policy is necessary.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:17, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
:::::True, but that image was from before the game's first release (I think). With a regular game, like KH3D or Days, that takes years to develop, there may be some things shown that will ultimately be removed. But with the KHx updates, which occur every couple of weeks, there isn't enough time to add something to the game, show it to the players, and then go back and remove it all again. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 07:53, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
::::::No, Shard hacked it from the game, and we made the same assumption that if the data was there, the Keyblade was about to show up.
::::::I'm putting my foot down. This is a stupid argument that bites us in the ass every time we show it some leniency. We will not be treating topics as confirmed without written confirmation, or the actual release of the game. WE ARE NOT A NEWS SITE.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:48, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
:::::::To be fair I didn't "hack" anything, it was all there, things just change constantly in χ[chi] and by that I mean every two weeks or so, descriptions are altered, attacks replaced, enemies switched, stuff gets removed and added all the time like with every other online game on the planet. It's just not really easy to keep up with it when you're practically the only person on the wiki who plays this game. I agree though that the Keyblades should have been removed sooner when it was clear that they won't appear for a very long time.
:::::::For the record: All Disney characters from KHII also appear in χ[chi], the Divine Rose Keyblade can now be acquired and the Gargoyle Knight finally makes his entrance, there are also three new synthesis items and a lot of new maps. I will upload all this stuff as soon as I can. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 10:25, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
::::::::So, who's left, Cinderella and Aurora? Huh. By any chance, since KHX is visiting all the princesses before the Keyblade War proper, does it at all indicate how they were chosen?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:41, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::Not all all, Chirithy doesn't seem to know what a princess is either, it often just references them as a "special light" (at least Alice and Snow White, Jasmine didn't appear yet and there was no such comment made for Belle) while not explaining what's so special about them. So it's not really part of the story at the moment, maybe when we touch the subject of the 7th princess in the future, I don't know. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 15:44, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::...that's...huh. What is the ''point'' of making almost all of the worlds Princess related in a game about the leadup to the Keyblade War, if you just ignore them? Is there ''any'' mention of why certain worlds appear?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:24, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::No, but that's because most of the plot of [chi] is not explained yet. Currently the Disney worlds are just a means for the Foretellers to collect Lux which is in turn needed to summon Kingdom Hearts (at least that's what news of Backcover are hinting at). --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 17:20, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
:There, that took what, two days? We lost nothing by waiting two days until the characters were actually added to the published game.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}}
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