Talk:Prize Pod

In Ven's for the Deep Space, it must be the enemy set with the Yellow Mustard. Another Combonation of enemies includes Tank Toppers, and they screw it up

What are you talking about?21:18, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sometimes when you pop into the Durgon Transporter with Ventus, you get a group of Unversed with Tank toppers. If the Tank Toppers show up, then the Prize Pods won't. I forgot to sign it last time, sorry Hyperwre_2.0 17:20, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Draft
Is this ready to be posted on the page? 19:55, 3 October 2015 (UTC)c

It has a lot of empty space that we should trim first, and the characters should have br instead of commas. I am somewhat confused though, what is the intent of this version compared to the previous? Is it to replace the images for readers whose computers won't load them? If so, would it be possible to do both image and word (for world at least) to try and fill some of the blank space?
 * Also, why are we putting the ingredient nihongo on this page instead of the Ice Cream page? 15:27, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I wanted to remove the images. Adding world icons could make this table look prettier, I agree. I put the ingredient nihongo (and icons) here because if we're removing the locations from the Ice Cream page, it'd make more sense to redirect the ingredients here, where most of the information is kept. I assume most readers search for an ingredient name because they're missing it as part of a recipe and want to see where it is; if they're redirected to the Ice Cream page, they'll only see what recipe their ingredient belongs to, which would be useless knowledge to them. 15:37, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it make more sense to put this table on the Ice Cream page, then? 17:17, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Locations of this manner basically serve as a strategy section for the Prize Pods, so they make sense here, but that also means the table is fairly packed. Aesthetically, I think it would look nicer to have the ingredient nihongo on that page, and have this one focus on where to find the Prize Pods that drop them. It would leave both tables less cluttered than repeating the same info in both places. 12:39, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * So which article would the ingredients redirect to? The locations should be on that page. I have no problem with this table being on the Ice Cream page and this strategy section linking to that page. 18:27, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe we could make a "List of Ice Cream Ingredients" page and put it on there. 22:21, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * We can put the world on the ingredients/ice cream page, I guess. 05:05, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Why can't all the information (nihongos, worlds, specific locations within the world) be all in one place rather than scattered across pages? 16:45, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not all part of the same information. Some of that is information for the Prize Pods (specific locations), some of that is info for the Ice Cream (nihongo and world). Trying to combine that all into one page would mean bloating this page with information on the Ice Creams; trying to put too much information about items on an enemy page already makes it difficult to organize and categorize, and that kind of thing doesn't really work too well if you have to start making tables (we do the Mushrooms because you can handle those with quick, simple prose). There's no real need to create a third page if we already have the Ice Cream page, so it makes the most sense to have the walkthrough portion on how to hunt Prize Pods on this page (it's not like the way you hunt them depends on the ingredients at all, you just get that world's set of ingredients at random no matter what), and all the item data on an item page.
 * Mostly, though, I think the table looks a bit cramped having the nihongo and strategy paragraph at the same time. 12:44, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

My gripe is when you search for an ingredient, you're redirected to the Ice Cream page which doesn't describe its location in detail and doesn't guide the reader on where to find that information. In my playthrough, I had an issue where I was missing a few ingredients (since I never hammered the Prize Pods enough) and needed to find the Prize Pod location via ingredient rather than world. We can't expect readers to know the layout of our wiki in order to find information, so I think we should put a "see also" template at the top of the section. 18:33, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Ooooooooh, that makes sense. What if we got rid of the world column on the ice cream article, and instead turned the ingredient names into anchored links to this article, so that you can click on the ingredient there to find where the prize pod is here? 14:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Does the table still look cramped? 18:35, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * One thing I definitely wanted to get changed was splitting the ingredient list by character. Would it be possible to revise the table to a multi-cell entry format, similar to World Cards, where instead of three columns for character, location, and ingredients, we had one cell with something like:

This would make it easier to tell whether you have gotten all the ingredients from a world for the character you are playing as, and reduce having to hop back and forth between pages. Also, reduces the cramp just a little bit more. 19:18, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The ingredients of a world are different for each character? Do we have a list of all these somewhere? 20:53, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing the ingredients for the Ice Cream that activate the exclusive Command Styles are character-exclusive as well. If you want, I can give you the full list of ingredients by character tomorrow. 22:05, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Here it is:


 * Terra
 * DW: Gaspberry, Nutty Nut
 * CoD: Birthday Cake, Crystal Sugar
 * ED: Bijou Bean, Rose Honey
 * RG: Nebula Nectar, Rocket Soda, Soy Milk
 * DT: Prickle Pepper, Toonbasco
 * OC: Nutty Nut, Thundercracker
 * DS: Bizarro Bean, Galactic Caramel
 * NL: Dancing Lemon, Golden Jam, Whipped Dream
 * MA: Dancing Lemon, Open Sesame


 * Ventus
 * DW: Apple Pie, Merry Dairy
 * CoD: Chocolate Valentine, Wedding Cake
 * ED: Cherryberry, Forest Muffin, Jumbo Almond
 * RG: Moogle Coffee, Rocket Soda, Soy Milk
 * DT: Prickle Pepper, Toonbasco
 * OC: Cotton Cloudcandy, Thundercracker
 * DS: Cream Fluff, Star Syrup
 * NL: Dancing Lemon, Honeybunch, Rainbow Syrup
 * MA: Dancing Lemon, Open Sesame


 * Aqua
 * DW: Gaspberry, Peach Fantasy
 * CoD: Birthday Cake, Crystal Soda
 * ED: Rose Honey, Sky Blue Mousse
 * RG: Nebula Nectar, Rocket Soda, Soy Milk
 * DT: Prickle Pepper, Toonbasco
 * OC: Cotton Cloudcandy, Heroic Orange, Thundercracker
 * DS: Balloon Melon, Cream Fluff, Fizzy Tizzy
 * NL: Dancing Lemon, Mermaid Salt, Rainbow Syrup
 * MA: Dancing Lemon, Open Sesame


 * These are taken from the BBS BradyGames guide. FM ingredients are missing, though. 18:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Everyone has the same FM ingredients in every world (there's only one, shared, new Ice Cream), so that can just be copied from the existing table. 19:40, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Is it readable the way I depicted it, with the name, then strategy, then ingredients? Should the strategy perhaps be moved into a separate column to the right, with the hard stats in their own column to the left (still in one cell)? 19:50, 27 October 2015 (UTC)