Talk:Bequeathing

Sora and Ventus
Although, Ventus is connected to sora by heart. That has to be the reason! If not then sora could handle the keyblade and the story would be all about Riku (maybe). Or Ven could have came to the island and did the Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony with Sora...I don't know I'm just saying things that could have happen....SilverPinkKitty 20:59, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Inheritance?
If Riku received the Keyblade from Terra, but it was passed onto Sora due to Riku's fall to darkness, how did Riku get a Keyblade? And why can't Kairi use the keyblade as well, seeing as how she supposedly inherited aqua's keyblade?

Riku's soul eater turned into a keyblade when ansems machine exploded and kairi can us a keyblade seen towards the end of KHII 75.162.68.34 02:17, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * sigh* I know all that, but how did Riku get his keyblade? that's the real question. And destiny place was Riku's, not Kairi's.
 * actually, i think i may have figured it out. Sora did get terra's keyblade, but due to Xehanort's possesion of Riku, riku gained Master Xehanort's Keyblade.

Sora has his own Keyblade and Ventus's keyblade he don't have Terra's keyblade if you think well the ÇS has it but you're right about Riku he have his own keyblade and MX's keyblade. Besides Nomura stated that Riku was choosen by both a keyblade master and a keyblade--Xabryn 13:37, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

yeah, Riku was chosen by terra and later by MX's keyblade. Terra's keyblade went to Sora. He also has ven's keyblade (roxas) and vanitas's keyblade (Xion, i believe.). The LS? I can't explain that. I guess he's just a sentiment. I don't think his keyblade is a true one, especially since Sora got the Kingdom Key. 17:55, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Okay calm down Sora only have 2 keyblades his own(Kingdom Key) and Ventus(Second keyblade) Terra's keyblade is with the LS, Xion's keyblade is a sham as Riku said and Vanitas's keyblade fused again with Ventus's, Roxas got his sinch blade ability after Xion's dead nomura said that the ability was awaken because of his desire to not lose Xion's memories, but anyway MX's keyblade is probably Riku's second Keyblade(we don't know how he got this ability) and he also have his own Keyblade(WaytotheDawn), m point is both Riku and Sora were choosen by the keyblade and by the keyblade but as the KK isa keyblade of the realm of light when Riku choose the realm of darkness the KK chose Sora instead since he is on the realm of light and have a heart of pure light with him, but Riku was later chosen by the WttD. what I'm trying to say is the KK and the WttD are they own keyblades nobody elses keyblades--Xabryn 16:43, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

i like the idea that nomura sucks at consistency. Makes more sense than anything else. Unfortunately, it also means that KH will have an ending akin to that of lost: confusing and wide open for fanfics interpretation.

I still don't see where the Another Report says Destiny Place is Riku's but making fun of Nomura is always fun.204.211.185.107 16:06, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

KH Insider citation
Must be resourced to the interview itself, in the ultimania. Look at Keyblade of People's Hearts for an example. Glorious  CHAOS!  03:32, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

brief glow of light?
kairi is a princesse and she can sense darkness do you think thats it.65.32.75.73 20:05, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's true. Even in the english version, there's no glow of light. however, Terra does recite this, which seems to be some sort of an oath for handing the keyblade down. ''in your hand, take this key ''so long as you have the makings, ''then through this simple act of taking ''its wielder you shall one day be. ''and you will find me, friend- ''no ocean will contain you then. ''no more borders around, or below or above, so long as you champion the ones you love. What do you guys think? Maybe the brief glow of light is just in lieu of reciting this oath.

Battle Stance
Is it just my impression or the battle stance of Terra is used by Riku(only in DI) and Aqua's is used by Kairi (in the world that never was the only time she hold a keyblade weapon)--Xabryn 00:24, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ven is not the reason Sora can use the keyblade.
Simply put Nomura said Sora is the only one in the series who didn't go through the ceremony to use the keyblade instead was chosen by the keyblade because of his strong Heart. The ceremony is more like a letter of recomendation than anything. You can get a keyblade without it but it's near impossible for that to happen. A keyblade basically won't ever come to you if you don't have the ceremony done but Sora had a special case. As said by Nomura Sora was actually be sucked into Riku's darkness and he touched the light in Riku's heart, this contact with Riku's heart allowed it to sense the stronger Sora heart and went to him.

When faced with it's original master though the keyblade went back, darkness has nothing to do with loosing the keyblade or not and Nomura already said dark or the light keyblade doesn't care. It wants to be used by the strongest heart, but at the same time the strength of the heart is very fulluctuant. Sora and Riku both grew stronger but Riku was stronger than Sora at that moment, it wasn't until he understood what his true strength was that Sora's heart became stronger than Riku's. Thus the keyblade made it's decision and returned to Sora.

Nomura said besides having his heart connected to someone he is completely normal. He also goes on to say that the point is that he wants to instal a beliefe that you can do anything if you try hard enough. Sora gained a keyblade because his heart was stronger than Riku not because of Ven or some ceremony. --24.7.239.218 00:53, July 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, yes, that's exactly what I mean. You need the weapon and the ability; one or the other doesn't get you anywhere. 20:12, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Regarding the post in the Forum: This seems to explain how Sora got the Keyblade, not why he can wield one. The game journals themselves also say that Riku lost the Keyblade to Sora "when he chose darkness over light"...so either the journal is being incredibly disingenuous, or the Nomura interview was not translated totally correctly. (Or, Nomura is contradicting his own damn self and shouldn't be trusted). 20:23, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * We also have to take into consideration that the interview from the KH Ultimania is from 2002. So maybe the ingame information is more correct at this point than Nomura's answers about matters that did become more and more complicated with each game. We also don't know what makes a heart weaker (or stronger for this matter), or do we?--ShardofTruth 20:32, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I think Nomura just didn't plan ahead that well. He probably didn't think KH would catch on as much as it has. I'd say we should trust in-game info. 23:44, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Squall (Leon)
What, exactly, is this glow? Squall held Sora's keyblade in KH1. So is now he a candidate also? Might be interesting to see a Final Fantasy Keyblae wielder. Netherith 03:17, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Aqua-Kairi
May I see a link of the confirmation of that?--KRoNoS 04:42, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

The keyblade has to accept the person that touches it. The keyblade accepted Kairi, but not the other people that have touched a keyblade
 * It accepted Riku. maggosh 05:22, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Inheritance???
I know this hasn't been shown, but can the Keyblade be handed down to more than one person, or just one? --ThomasFanAC 20:02, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, i had to use your template or my post would be kinda hard to see. I am not RoxasXIIILK I am Guest.

Now, i think this is all rubbish, first of all there is absolutely no way that two keyblades can be in different places at the same time. Xion's keyblade is a copy of Sora's, but it's not a sham. it is as real as any other keyblades, there are as many keys as there are weilders, i believe this, but i hate Nomura for making the series so messed up! i am considering believing the "Xion's keyblade is memories" theory though, since that would make sense due to her acctually having taken on the appearance of leaked memories.... Second of all, sora's keyblade is not terra's. in fact i completely disagree with the "All keyblades come from others" theory. that's bullpoop. HOWEVER Ventus's keyblade IS sora's second keyblade. and Roxas's second keyblade is also ventus's hence explainging the fact that sora can only weild two AFTER Roxas comes back to him. Ven's heart stayed in roxas when sora turned to a heartless. wich explains his feelings and appearance. Sora: Has his own keyblade. uses Ventu's keyblade as extra in synch blade. Roxas: has his own keyblade wich technically has the same keychain as sora's because he is sora's nobody. uses Ventus's keyblade is synch blade. Xion: The most explainable theory is that: Her appearance is due to leaked memories about kairi, but everyone veiws her differently, Xemnas and Xigbar veiw her as Ven becaue Braig and esspecially both of Xemnas's somebodies: MX and Terra both had strong bonds with him, MX being his former master and Terra being his best friend. And because Sora is related to ventus, granting the complete access to the Ventus appearance. Xion will only reaveal the Kairi with black hair appearance to friends. Roxas having bonds to sora who obviously knows kairi, it would be obvious for him to see her like that but Axel...i dunno, posisibly because Lea had connections to Ventus who had connections to sora who had connections to kairi... Xion's keyblade is most likely, as said before, memories of Sora's keyblade. Xemnas: now Xemnas is an exceptinal being, being th Nobody of two somebodies: MX and Terra, he has both their memories AND the memories of Xehanort (i mean the gray haired terra Xehanort, y'know. Terranort if you want) so really he's the Nobody of three people. that's why he's one of my favorite characters in the series. he is exceptional indeed. BTW, The only way Sora could supposedly save Terra, would be to separate the Terranort back into terra and MX but then Sora might have MX to take care of. wich intrigues me of an idea to KH3. So that about explains it. the inheritance to others theory is a farce. there are as many keyblades as there are weilders. P.S. Again, i am sorry for using your template RoxasXIIILK

Xemnas does not see Xion as Ven. He explicitly says he sees her as Sora. 01:34, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Okay.... I guess that makes sense. But just so all of us can be on the same page, maybe I need to rephrase my question. Can a Keyblade Master choose more than one successor, or only one? In other words, is there more than one or two ways to become a Keyblade wielder than what was shown? --68.52.70.92 03:11, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Glow
The glow only appears in the original Japanese version, it doesn't appear in neither the NA or FM versions... 06:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

Don't we consider the FM version to be the canon version when it's released?13:47, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

Can someone tell me what is this glow of light cuz I can't see it even in the Japanese version.--Xabryn 18:09, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
 * In the original Japanese release of KHBBS, there was a brief glow when the Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony was performed. This is how we know that Kairi unintentionally received the Keyblade from Aqua.
 * And, may I say, Google Chrome is awesome. So glad I switched. -- 03:24, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

Possible reason Lea might have a keyblade in Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance
While skimming through this article it just came to me, is it possible the reason Lea can wield a keybalde in Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance is because Lea has touched Ven's keyblade when going to Radiant Garden making it a Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony --Kh2cool (talk) 00:09, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * That Keyblade was wooden...the reason behind Lea's ability to wield has been explained already. maggosh 02:08, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that didn't slip my mind for a minute. --Kh2cool (talk) 18:00, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Name
Did BBS give provide this English name? KH3D calls it the "Bequeathing". -- 17:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Where did we get "Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony" from? Because I don't remember it in any game so the "Bequeathing" seems to be the only name we got from an official source. 19:43, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * FifteenthMember-san, Neumz-senpai started the same topic above. ^^; I don't know who came up with the name either, but I'm all for it to change it to be "Bequeathing". If that is what the game used, then we should use it, too. Any objections?-- 22:33, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm all for using what the games use, as well! - 02:08, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm all for changing it too. Though I would suggest keeping the word Keyblade in the title, calling it the "Keyblade Bequeathing", just so other readers understand immediately what we're talking about. Just a suggestion. Blackchaos27 (talk) 06:06, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind we can create a redirect of keyblade inheritance ceremony for the new page. 11:04, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * "Keyblade" isn't part of the name used in KH3D, though. If we're changing the title to reflect the official name, then we should use the official name. 16:51, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I only put that for the sake of 'Bequeathing what?' But if I must I'll remove that part of the name from the suggestion prompt. Blackchaos27 (talk) 17:07, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Looking back in the history, the person who first created the page was a user called Rjilano. So, yeah, the name is unofficial. I tried looking for interviews, too, thinking that may be where the name came from, but I got nothing. I already said this when the topic was brought up, but I'm up for moving it, too. By the way, I also mentioned that Neumz-senpai asked the same question above, so it is okay to combine it, because having two sections with the same topic is just redundant.-- 20:43, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm for moving. 20:54, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Enough time has passed, and everyone here is in agreement about the move, so I'm going to move it now.-- 22:18, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Master-level
I know that if you're on the level of a Master, then you can Bequeath someone, but where was this stated? Was it in a Nomura interview or something? I can't find the source. --Elfdemon (talk) 15:22, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * -- The Keyblade succession can only be performed by a Keyblade Master, but we see Terra performing this rite with Riku - does this mean we can consider Terra a Keyblade Master?
 * Nomura: No. Terra was not awarded that title by his Master Eraqus, so no matter how Master Xehanort flatters him he is not a Keyblade Master. But that's just a matter of whether or not he's achieved the official title. Even Eraqus recognised that Terra possessed suitable power to be a Master, which is why he was able to perform the rite for Riku.
 * http://forums.khinsider.com/birth-sleep/147009-bbs-ultimania-plot-mysteries-nomura-interview.html
 * Thank you! --Elfdemon (talk) 19:26, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

"power to wield a Keyblade"
What's the source for the Bequeathing giving someone the power to wield a Keyblade or actually doing anything at all? I've seen so many people say this, and I've even said it as well many times before, but after looking into it, I can't find a source. As far as we know, the Bequeathing is just a tradition like the Mark of Mastery is and doesn't actually do anything. As far as we know, all you need in order to wield a Keyblade is to have a strong heart. --Elfdemon (talk) 02:39, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, we know that when a person with a strong heart touches a Keyblade, they can wield one, as seen in BBS by Kairi, so maybe the Bequeathing is just a formal way of letting someone touch your Keyblade, and thereby passing on the Keyblade-wielding ability. 17:33, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * "Through the "Bequeathing," they choose the next generation of Keyblade wielders" / "He decided to bequeath the power of the Keyblade to this little boy, who reminded him so much of himself." 18:43, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! The "He decided to bequeath the power of the Keyblade to this little boy, who reminded him so much of himself" is the concrete proof I needed! --Elfdemon (talk) 03:03, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * So, doesn't that mean that the question "How does Sora have the ability to wield a Keyblade?" is currently unanswered? --Elfdemon (talk) 03:04, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does. Rex Ronald Rilander (talk) 03:50, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It's a combination of Sora having Ventus's heart within him, and forging Riku's Keyblade from his heart during that scene on Destiny Islands. 15:11, 13 April 2017 (UTC)