User talk:Neumannz



A request
A user kind of went mad on the IRC channel. I have a log of the conversation, but cannot add it as your page is too cluttered. Can you please delete/archive some of it's contents so I can post it?

Please contact me at: http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Woganhemlock

Thanks! -- WoganHemlock (talk) · (blog) 23:33, 10 April 2011 (EDT)

Ok, here we go.

A report
I was on the KHWiki social channel, and one of the users kind of had a meltdown...

[12:53]  ITS NOT LETTING ME FUCKING MVOE PAGES

[12:53]  did you refresh your cache?

[12:54]  I fucking deleted all of my application data, and used a different browser

[12:54]  That's usually not a Monobook problem, soudnsl ike a wiki server problem

[12:54]  o.o

[12:54]  *sounds like

[12:54]  I went into Oasis, as well, and it displayed normally

[12:54]  yeah, a monobook server problem

[12:54]  I'm not a fucking idiot, Silvasey, I confirmed that it was a monobook bug

[12:54]  calm your shit

[12:54]  Whoa, everyone calm down.

[12:54]  well then don't tell me I'm making stuff up

[12:55]  I didn't tell you that

[12:55]  [22:52]  Renaming pages/files hasn't changed [12:55] <RandomRanaun> He didn't.

[12:55] <Silvasey> I'm trying to say I don't see the problems you're describing

[12:55] <KrytenKoro> [22:52] <Silvasey> Renaming pages/files hasn't changed

[12:55] <KrytenKoro> [22:53] <Silvasey> So it got a few letters wrong

[12:55] <RandomRanaun> I don't see them either.

[12:55] <Silvasey> ..yeah, I said that.

[12:55] <Silvasey> and?

[12:55] <KrytenKoro> got-fucking dammit

[12:57] <KrytenKoro> <Silvasey> I'm trying to say I don't see the problems you're describing

[22:56] <Silvasey> Yes, I know what happened

[12:57] <Silvasey> I've renamed files on a bunch of other wikis

[12:57] <RandomRanaun> It's because it hasn't.

[12:57] <Silvasey> And this has never happened to me.

[12:57] <RandomRanaun> Me either.

[12:57] <KrytenKoro> you can both see the gotdamn mispelling, right

[12:57] <KrytenKoro> ?

[12:57] <KrytenKoro> when you click the motherfucking link?

[12:58] <Silvasey> yes.

[12:58] <RandomRanaun> Yeah...

[12:58] <KrytenKoro> THATS A FUCKING ERROR

[12:58] <Silvasey> and I've already established that this is a problem [12:58] <Silvasey> I know that

[12:58] <KrytenKoro> IT DIDNT HAPPEN VEFORE

[12:58] <KrytenKoro> IT ONLY HAPPENS IN MONOBOOK

[12:58] <RandomRanaun> It's not a major one though.

[12:58] <Silvasey> dude, calm the fuck down

[12:58] <Silvasey> we get it

[12:58] <RandomRanaun> It's not like the entire wiki crashed.

[12:58] <KrytenKoro> it has, actually

[12:58] <Silvasey> ^this

[12:58] <Keyblade0> G2g

[12:58] == Keyblade0 [4c6c221c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.108.34.28] has quit [Quit: Page closed]

[12:58] <Silvasey> ...then its just your wiki.

[12:58] <KrytenKoro> last week, the skin stopped displaying completely

[12:59] <KrytenKoro> I reported it on wikia, and others said they had had the same things happen on there wiki

[12:59] <RandomRanaun> That happens to ALL skins sometimes.

[12:59] <Silvasey> Because all the other 5 wikis I edit on almost daily don't have this problem

[12:59] <Silvasey> And never had, to my knowledge

[12:59] <RandomRanaun> I remember it happened frequently with Monaco.

[12:59] <KrytenKoro> I don't have time for this nonsense

[12:59] <KrytenKoro> Oasis is shit, wikia is shit, that's why we moved

[12:59] <RandomRanaun> ._.

[12:59] <KrytenKoro> I need to get back to work

[12:59] == KrytenKoro [0c350ae2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.53.10.226] has left #KHWiki-social []

[12:59] <Silvasey> ...bye?

[12:59] <WoganHemlock> That was dramatic...

[12:59] <DoorToNothing> ... okay, who pissed off Kryten?

[13:00] <RandomRanaun> o_0

[13:00] <Silvasey> Seemed like he got pissed at nothing.

[13:00] <Silvasey> We really didn't do anything.

[13:00] <RandomRanaun> ^^

[13:00] <WoganHemlock> I...don't...know...

[13:00] <WoganHemlock> Ideas?

[13:00] <UnknownSmoothie> Hrm...

[13:00] <UnknownSmoothie> When is so angry...

I didn't know how much to put, sorry if I cluttered up your userpage.

If you have any questions, ask me or RandomRanaun, another user of sims wiki. His page is located at: http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:Random_Ranaun He is the one who said I should report this to you.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

Regards,

-- WoganHemlock (talk) · (blog) 03:05, 11 April 2011 (EDT)

He tends to do that. Don't be too worried. 19:29, 14 April 2011 (EDT)

Sorry

 * ...no, we won't, because that page is in the mainspace. Hopefully we can get the title transferred to the new namespace when it's created, but seriously, look before you leap. 19:52, 14 April 2011 (EDT)

The service of an administrator is needed in this situation
Here, please. I'm not sure if the anon is going to participate... but... I'll volunteer, if needed. 23:07, 16 April 2011 (EDT)

Finish
Neumannz, I finish those pages, here the Fire, Fira, Firaga, and element pages you ask for. I hope everything is up to standard for you with these.

Avatar Menu
I'm going to work on getting the Avatar Menu stuff translated this weekend, but anything you can do to would be mighty helpful. 03:43, 24 April 2011 (EDT)

IRC, please
15:37, 4 May 2011 (EDT)

Re:What we need...
Sure. 04:30, 12 May 2011 (EDT)

Delete
Delete File:Cleo.jpg, because it's already been replaced. 20:57, 31 May 2011 (EDT)


 * Done. -- 21:19, 31 May 2011 (EDT)

Re:Mirage arena
Easy. I can even make them from the ripped sprites that Shard extracted. 04:10, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

Help
Hi, I read your message about my talk bubbles. Im afraid that I dont know how to make it like everyone else does so if you dont mind could you tell me how to do it? Thanks! =)--What the hell&#39;s a signature? 12:25, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

Thanks a lot Neumannz! I'll try that now! =)--What the hell&#39;s a signature? 12:45, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

CSS
Hello. I was wondering if you could install the second line of code (the one involving  tags) from here to all four skins. It is compatable with all of them, and stops from a comment, with, say, a space at the start from running 1000 bytes off to the right of page. I asked Kryten and he said it was fine (log inclosed on page). Thanks. 22:09, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Galleries
The following articles have had galleries added or added to, but have images which appear to be redundant to existing images. I'm at work, so I obviously can't do comprehensive image comparison, but if the images don't have distinct differences in details, then the images need to be moved to a separate Gallery: article, which would also contain copies of all the other images that remain in the parent article. If there are differences, the Design section needs to mention them. Can you take a look at this, or assign it to someone who can?
 * Philoctetes
 * Snow White
 * Aurora
 * White Rabbit

10:06, 19 July 2011 (EDT)


 * Taken care of. Problem, though: What game are File:Chip.png and File:Dale.png from? -- 19:32, 19 July 2011 (EDT)
 * KHII, I believe, and Ammon's category spam will need to be cleaned up. 20:08, 19 July 2011 (EDT)
 * Replaced the list with the new ones to address. 11:55, 20 July 2011 (EDT)
 * Two more: Air Pirate and Soldier. 12:54, 21 July 2011 (EDT)

Image Renovation No Jutsu~!
WHY HELLO THERE MR. SIR NEUMANNZY SIR.

I'm a bit confused on the image renovation. Are we just cleaning up all of the images that we marked in the audit? If so I can totally help with that. It would be awesome if you could clarify just what is going on and what the process of carrying out the renovation is, though. Thanks! -- 01:18, 24 July 2011 (EDT)


 * (1) Thank you for the 10+ replies. I fully understand now, trust me, heh.
 * (2) I've come across a rather unique case. This is clearly artwork of Atlantica, probably from Kingdom Hearts. However, I do not want to put it on an article or in a gallery since it has a watermark, and therefore should be deleted. However, if we could acquire the image without the watermark, we could use it, which requires it to not be deleted as an image reference for finding an non-watermarked version. Also it's a .jpg. Thoughts? -- 21:24, 24 July 2011 (EDT)

Beam me up
Cheesy, I know, but since T_I and Saph were temporarily promoted to Administrators, I'd like to be promoted too. It would make uploading images a hell lot more easier. :| 14:51, 24 July 2011 (EDT)
 * Excuse my ESL. I plan to delete images I replace... and any USELESS images in the unused images category. Right now I'm sifting through it to find anything that needs to be in a gallery or a page... 15:33, 24 July 2011 (EDT)

"We interrupt this talk page to annoy you, and make things generally irritating"
Hey there, Neumannz, quick question again on image names. For artwork images (specifically those found here and here), is it "WORLD LOCATION (like treehouse/undersea valley/where nothing gathers/etc) ID.blah blah blah?" Reason for asking -> Here we have two images of the treehouse, one inside the treehouse and one out. Also, this would make the title more specific than "Location ID.png." Thanks! ^_^-- Xion 4  ever  15:47, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Re:Two things

 * 1) YOUR FACE IS TOO DAMN LONG.
 * 2) You mean Flash Animation, or just flashy graphics? My thoughts on the main page: more this, less this. -- 21:43, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

Sorry
I appolgize for what i did in [] I learned my lesson please just please for give me for what i did just please i ruined your site you have all right to be mad at me for what i did but if you could find a place in your heart to forgive me I wont do any wrong anymore I've lost without my account so please--Terra-Darkness 05:29, 17 August 2011 (UTC).

Thank you
Thank you for letting me back--Terra-Darkness 02:15, 18 August 2011 (UTC).

May you
May you unblock [| This one] please i will help make things better just please--Terra-Darkness 02:34, 18 August 2011 (UTC).

Why would he give one of your sockpuppets back (maybe it was more of a meatpuppet situation, I'm not sure)? What could you possibly make better on this encyclopedia with two accounts? 02:53, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Take it up with one of the wikia's new admins. It is now in their hands. -- 02:58, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

吹き上げ無効

 * Fukiage-mukou: Windtoss-null

literally "blown up by the winds-invalidation" 06:08, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Days Question
I put both images here. The resolution should be enough to get the Japanese text or even let it recognitize by an ocr software. I you need more pages, just tell me:-) ShardofTruth 15:57, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

New Forum
Should I have made this? If so, could you please sticky it? If not, could you delete it or rename it? Thanks. 19:36, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

So, this didn't last too long did it.




May I just request the bcrat/admin powers back, or do I need to wait for an election? 00:50, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 * Ahh....
 * ...I think you can be fast tracked back to your slot, but what are you going to do? -- 00:55, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * ... http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/02467.gif ASDFJKRYTENL; But seriously, glad to have you back. -- 02:37, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

IRC
Neumannz, I need to talk to you about a simple matter on the IRC. --ShardofTruth 15:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Please see this
Thanks. 18:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

O' Neumannzy One
Okay, we were still waiting on a little more clarification on if the companions were also confirmed to be Dream Eaters. Seems that they all are, but there are two types of Dream Eaters. Awesome, more Nomura craftiness.

Also if you can get on the IRC right now, PLEASE DO. There's important staff stuff to discuss right now. Maggosh and I will be waiting. -- 01:36, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Re:KH3D Commands
0:46-0:47 although it LITERALLY flashes for about half a millisecond. You'll be able to get it at 0:46 if you pause well. 17:53, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Traverse Town
Now that you've seen it... can I install it here? 22:15, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Neumannz... can I?  00:58, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm alright with it. If you've got good feedback from the others, then go for it. -- 01:07, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I can show you the feedback, if you wish.   01:13, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Nah, that's fine. As long as you know what you're doing. -- 01:15, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Will do (tomorrow).   01:21, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Where to Place Dream Eater Images
Wouldn't call them characters, but they need their own category... We may as well do as we did with the Unversed and create "Category:Dream Eater images". (They're not likely to be showing up again, so we may as well play it like that.) Also, this would cover both "Spirits" and "Nightmares", right? -- 00:00, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Right, I wouldn't call them characters either. I guess "Dream Eater images" sounds good; I don't think we need separate categories for Spirits and Nightmares because we specify in the file name (e.g. Fish Dream Eater (Nightmare) KH3D.png). I just wanted to remain both consistent with other enemy images and their categories. -

Check the list of new files. I uploaded one from that scan. -
 * All right, at least now we have some sub-official names for these things. May I ask what you use to translate the scans? Might save us some work in the future if I'm able to do it too. - Terra Master Symbol.png Eternal   Nothingness   XIII  Terra Master Symbol.png 00:49, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Category:Dream Eater images
Please see this category and make sure everything is as it should be. I'm not sure anymore if we should create separate categories for Spirit and Nightmare images, especially since a Dream Eaters category needs to be created for the articles, and I'm not sure whether that should be divided between Nightmare and Spirit as well... Right now it looks like we're combining the Nightmare and Spirit Dream Eaters into one category, especially on the Wandanyan page, where we cover both versions of it... -


 * At this time, I don't see why we should have more than one category. Also, I can't say whether we'll need to separate the articles for Spirit and Nightmare variants. For now, this is fine. -- 22:49, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Ienzo
Ienzo would be even less helpful than Kairi, since if the scene IS when they became Nobodies, than that's the age he stopped existing at, and Nobodies explicitly do not age. There's no reason to assume his restored self would be any different than his self at dispersal, based on what we've been given.

A young Kairi would be only marginally more helpful, since Days and Xion have explicitly shown us that that kind of thing can just be an illusion. The best thing would be Ansem the Wise as a cameo, as he simply wouldn't be there if this was set in the near-present.

The point is, there's a hundred different ways to interpret this scene, and picking one of them and using it to rewrite existing material that was written using context...infuriates me. 20:43, 23 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Naw, I'm with you on that. It strikes me as more plausible that it's a flashback, but if we haven't learned not to take preliminary info for granted, then we're morons. -- 20:53, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

A bit more stuff and junk
If you like you could check out some Kingdom Hearts II and Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix Scans that are already uploaded on the web. Sadly Kingdom Hearts Insider doesn't seem to host the images anymore, so I hope the two links will do. The first page of the Lingering Will and all lower Nobody pages could be interessting for you. Secondly there is no list of the reaction commands for KHII, because every enemy and boss page has it's own list. Maybe you should start a request in Ansem's computer and we assemble the information for every enemy there. I will scan the rest and upload it together with the spells and summons. --ShardofTruth 08:10, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I had to split the archive. You can find the desired files here, here and here. I put some additional interesting KH pages in there, maybe they are relevant. --ShardofTruth 00:00, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Open just one of three files with a file archiver like WinZip, WinRar or 7-Zip. The program should recognize that the archive was split and let you unpack it. --ShardofTruth 15:45, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Did it work? If there are problems with the files just ask or chat with me^^--ShardofTruth 20:45, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes they are the same stats as listed in the Bradygames guide, I checked with Captain Hook who is one of the few who has different KO and Other stats. Anyway the Bradygames guide has only a mini section about tech points and deflecting, KO and Other are not explained (at least if you don't call "Multiplier levels on damage received for each attack type" explaining). The Piggyback guide isn't much better, but there is at least a small paragraph about blocking, counterattacking, Aeroga and Guard. --ShardofTruth 21:13, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I uploaded the requested pages here, Xemnas I (p. 427) should be already in the last package, if you want the other battle phases, you can find them here. The difference between the KHCOM and KHRECOM map cards layout is just a sample image for the room, so I didn't scan these pages because there are too many of them.--ShardofTruth 22:25, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Forum
Forum:General Wiki Maintenance Please give your opinion on the matter. SidVI 08:16, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Getting in Touch
So TNE told me via Facebook yesterday (she can't access the IRC at her university computer for some reason) that you wished to speak with me? That's perfectly fine, but I'd really feel more comfortable if we could do a three-way conversation either on Facebook or the IRC between you, me, and TNE (if she can make it); TNE's perfectly fine with joining us. As soon as she's online again, I'd be more than willing to do this. -

IRC
Kryten would like you to come on, immediatly please. Grazzi. 20:02, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Positive effects
If you choose to do all of them, well, CoM's enemy cards are going to jack your shit. It might just be worth having a summary in the lead, and only covering the ones that appear places beyond just CoM.

CoM sleight status effects:
 * Stop
 * Stun
 * Freeze
 * Warp
 * Bind
 * Confuse
 * Terror
 * Synchro? (is it instantaneous?)
 * Gifted Miracle? (same)

BbS friend command effects:
 * Confetti (berserk? what gets all criticals?)
 * Fireworks?
 * Vanish

04:22, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Fix this
And be on the IRC more! 03:30, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Enemy infobox
All of the games that have "base stats times level" now calculate the stats for each appearance automatically. This means that the numerical stats need to be pure numbers, with no "x". Otherwise they are interpreted as text and the wiki tries to multiply a number by text.

Do you know anyone who's fluent in Japanese? I'd really like to get the final questions for the template figured out, so we can start revising all of the stuff. Hell, at this point I'm tempted to shell out for one of those pay-to-translate things.192.249.47.196 17:18, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

IRC NOW PLEASE
Thank you. 05:33, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Now. 18:46, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Cutscene naming policy
I got the names from KH13.com's cutscene gallery. - JTD 06:24, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

IRC?
22:28, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Boss Articles
'S'fine with me. As far as I can see, nothing has gone wrong, so it's cool. Right now I'm just occupied with fixing links. -- 16:27, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I've Returned to Exact my Vengeance
YES THAT WOULD BE EFFING BRILLIANT AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY APPROVE ALSO WELCOME BACK -- 22:00, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * All right, I'll get on it ASAP. And thanks for the welcome! Quick question, though: What should be done about longer articles, such as Drive Gauge? Should it be condensed, left alone, or should I just create one long page? - Terra Master Symbol.png Eternal   Nothingness   XIII  Terra Master Symbol.png 23:29, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

See if you can condense it without losing any essentials. Most of it is probably redundant to Drive Form, anyhow. By the way, I don't know whether it's helpful at all, but here's the list I came up with. -- 01:23, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

AWB request
Can you have AWB transform all the Gallery, GalleryHeader, and CardHeader (and any others I'm forgetting) templates into Suite?192.249.47.195 20:29, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * There are some tricky ones on the list:
 * Drive Forms
 * Keyblades/weapons
 * Magic
 * Some character cards (Dark Riku, Mr. Smee, Lock, Shock, etc.)
 * Whirli-Goof
 * What do I do about those? -- 22:24, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

A message from a newcomer

 * smacks forehead* I should've realized this sooner. Thanks! --NumberXV 22:23, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

New project: Fact project
To go hand in hand with the interviews project.

Correct format for interviews is here. We need to add that to the MoS, then organize a propagation of it--looking for stuff that should be sourced to publications instead of just the games (or already says that it should be), and then sourcing it properly. 03:05, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Gauge Article
Please see this and its talk page. Thanks! -  Eternal   Nothingness   XIII   01:05, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Question from Germany
Hey dear mister Neumannz. I've got a question. I know you do the merging stuff right know, but I wanted to ask you, if it is ok for your community, if we use your templates, etc? We translate them to german and change a little bit. I'm asking you, because I somehow feel guilty for using your work (on the other hand, it's just the respect to your work we have). Also if we hadn't used your template, you maybe didn't find the problem with the enemy template (LVL and LV). Please tell me if it is ok or not. Thanks and bye. Sum2k3 19:17, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Really you should be asking KrytenKoro, since he's more of a template guy, but I don't really think there should be a problem with you borrowing our code. -- 20:06, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no qualms about anyone using any of my templates, and since it's GDFL, it should be fine to use any template legally so long as you credit the previous authors. Saying "copied from KHWiki" should probably be enough.192.249.47.195 20:38, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you guys. Credits will of course go to you. Sum2k3 21:07, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Coding st00fs
For the in-edit link suggestions, there's multiple solutions for that. It requires Porple's assistance, but there are simple solutions or more elegant ones.

For the search bar... I'm not sure there are solutions for that. You can look through this and see if there are any extensions you like. Other than that, I think we're SOL.

Question for you... do we want further improvements to the CSS? Such as category bars, picture frames, galleries, etc...?


 * 19:48, 27 January 2012 (UTC)


 * This would probably be the only option for a slideshow. (I could also install a rather heavy script plugin, but that seems unnecessary.) I was referring particularly to the styles of those things, but I can always do bells and whistles as well. 22:29, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Disney Villains
Ok, let me see if I'm understanding you correctly. You're saying you don't understand why Lock, Shock, and Barrel aren't listed in the "disney villains" template, and why Hayabusa redirects to Shan-Yu's page?


 * Lock, Shock, and Barrel, while being enormous troublemakers, are not quite villainous (see the second visit to halloween town in kh 2 and khd)
 * Hayabusa is Shan Yu's falcon.

Ok? -- 21:07, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Status Effects
Sorry for the trouble. I would have redirected myself, but I never done it, so I don't know to. Felt like I caused you trouble, so I'm sorry. Thanks for fixing them.-- Ninja Sheik  03:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It's alright. Want me to walk you through it? -- 04:25, 3 February 2-- 22:31, 3 February 2012 (UTC)012 (UTC)
 * Yes, please! I always tried to do redirects myself on the other wikis I edit at, but I kinda always end up failing ^__^'-- Ninja Sheik  22:00, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Cool! I won't have time tonight, but if you can come by the irc tomorrow after around 7 pm eastern time, we'll do it upright. (Although it's not as hard as I'm making it sound...) --
 * Okay! 7 around eastern time... I live in Central, so that means like at six, I think?-- Ninja Sheik  22:32, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Re:Requests
08:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Anti-form is capable of beating bosses with a finisher. I remember taking a screenshot once, but I can't seem to find the link anymore.
 * 2) Sure, I'll get to it.

ok
Ok then il do that. TheFifteenthMember 19:33, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Have u completely deleted my changes? or have u put in a drop section cos if u haven't ill go back and make a drop section. TheFifteenthMember 19:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Drive Form
🇲🇽

Unversed
Find its journal entry and read it; it is an Unversed. --The Inexistent

Yes, sorry about that. I didn't know it was a character and when I did I read it's description and read it temporally was a unversed. Sorry for that. TheFifteenthMember 12:05, 10 February 2012 (UTC)