Talk:Vexen

Quotes
We have too many, and its starting to make the page look unorganized. I think we should limit the number of non-battle quotes down to the 5-10 most significant quotes. XienZo 23:47, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. There's probly still a bit too many but I battled him recently and I left the ones I remember hearing.-xnaminex

Put in the "I'm a scientist" quote! I can't remember it! --68.190.210.240 06:17, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Top of the article. It's been there for a while.-- Lapis Scarab  06:26, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Clones?
I'm not sure Vexen should be included as a member with the ability to create clones. The other members with cloning abilties are able to do this natually and in battle, while Vexen can't make clones in battle and quite possibly needs some sort of machine to do this. Any comments? -xNaminéx

Voice Acting and 358/2 Days
Is Derek Stephen Prince coming back to voice?

Is Vexen a partner of Roxas in 358/2 Days?

DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS 22:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

My Question is: Is there a pic of him from 358/2 Days?

To answer your third question, yes there is. It just showed up today.

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/days/

And that's not all, higher quality pics of Zexion and Marluxia too. The only ones that are left are Xemnas and Saix. And when are you guys gonna put up that higher quality pic of Xaldin? Winxfan1 11:37, 20 May 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

Shields
So his shields' names are a mix of ice things, science things, and Bavarian rivers? The hell? Glorious  CHAOS!  04:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Mindel is also the name of a glacial period, according to Wikipedia. Günz is...unfathomable. It's a tributary to the Danube, so I tried looking that up, but the Danube almost never freezes over so...I have absolutely no idea.—Urutapu 04:36, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Er, well, the Danube is a mountain river, but this is still way too convoluted for me to take it seriously.—Urutapu 04:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Why would all of his shields have to be icy? Maybe this shield has nothing to do with ice. Guardian Soul 04:40, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * We're not saying that, it's just...suddenly, there are two Bavarian rivers in there. We're just trying to justify how random it is.—Urutapu 04:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Mindel gave it's name to a glacial period, so it has to be related to that.Guardian Soul
 * Gunz, Mindel, and Wurm are all Bavarian rivers which gave their names to periods of glaciation. Weird. Glorious  CHAOS!  04:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Something I'm confused about

 * Read the article. There's a reason we all wrote it, you know.—Urutapu 22:38, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Vexen was not suppose to be killed, it's all fault of Axel, he was thinking that Vexen want to betray the organisation like Marluxia and the others.--Hotdragon 295 01:54, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * -Facepalm- try reading the article. No wait, I'll just tell ya. Marluxia told Axel to "Elimanate the Traitor." and was refering to Vexen. Axel had been baiting him into saying this so he could take advantage of the order. Axel then killed Vexen and returned, and was accepted by Marluxia and Larxene into their plan. Next we see Axel taking advantage of Maluxia's order to elimate the traitor to turn on him and try and kill him. THAT is why Axel killed Vexen. --Evnyofdeath 20:14, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Not to be rude, but you're pretty late, Envyofdeath.
 * You think I don't know that? So what, admins are allowed to post late responses but normal users like me aren't? Thats the only reason I can think of when admins do this and DON'T get called out like that. --Evnyofdeath 20:18, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Take it easy, I wasn't trying to insult.

Vexen can Vex
Should it be added that Vex means to disturb and annoy in little ways, and that, ironically, Vexen does so to most fans? Or should that be left out due to it being opinion?--72.240.185.120 23:29, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. I'm pretty sure many people find Vexen annoying, but that's a personal opinion unless it is confirmed that he is annoying!-- 23:32, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I love Vexen. Glorious  CHAOS!  01:24, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Me too. But he creeps me out!-- 01:29, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

"I'm a scientist. Experiments are what I do, yeeessssss......." User:JudgmentDay95

It's quite ironic. I used to have not hatred, but a strong dislike, for Vexen. Then I realized he'd be the only character I was good at in Days for a long time XD - EternalNothingnessXIII 01:33, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but everytime he looks at you, it's like he want to take out your internal organs and experiment on it. Creepy.-- 01:38, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Well, to be honest, if I had half of my being ripped out of me and was forced to live the rest of my days as a demented shell, I'd go nuts as well. User:JudgmentDay95

I'll be fine with it, actually. Though, I still want to feel happiness and joy, of course. I can get Vexen, but Xaldin is one of the members that I don't get very well. He's very complex.-- 01:47, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I have a comment to make on this segment: "Ironically, Vexen's throne is the lowest of the Organization in their meeting chamber known as Where Nothing Gathers. This is mostly due to his recurring incompetence and preference of not sullying his hands like Zexion, though the latter can easily hold his own in battle. This also reinforces the trait of cowardice in Vexen, displayed through his fear of Xemnas and his fear of death."

This contradicts what was stated in the article for the Castle That Never Was:

"Tetsuya Nomura himself has stated in an interview that the height of each throne is just a gameplay mechanic.

-During the meetings, the members of Organization XIII are sitting in chairs. Is the height of these chairs determined by things like their skills and abilities? Nomura: No, the height of the chairs is not fixated, they move. That is to say, the height is up to each person. The leader, Xemnas, is always the highest and to be at the same height as him would have a pretty bad feeling, so the other members wouldn't do that. (laughs)"

Although I'm not saying that Vexen definitely isn't one of the most least-respected members in the organization. :P It is interesting to think that he chooses for his throne to be the lowest, especially considering that he is so fixated on numbers and ranks. Hmmm.

Maybe the others were faster and when he was chosing everybody was sitting :) - Jurrak

Can it not be argued...
That Vexen indirectly caused the Organization's downfall? His Replica program created Xion, the death of whom caused Roxas to run back to try and free Kingdom Hearts. This results in Roxas' capture, proceed to merge with Sora, and boom, Sora goes ahead and kills Organization XIII.173.79.58.137

About the Replica Program
I am wondering: did Vexen directly create Xion? In the article, it simply says that he supervised over the Replica program, but his Secret Reports make it sound as though he created Xion himself, as he did with the Riku Replica ("No. i, my finest replica"). Should this be included, or is it unimportant? 173.58.106.138 01:35, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Derek Stephen Prince's podcast?
Kingdom Hearts World apparently has an interview with Derek Stephen Prince, you can listen to it here. Make what you will of it. TRS NX  19:55, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

That's cool. I'll have a listen to it tomorrow, but is there any neat information in the interview?-- 03:59, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

"Vexen secretly collects Roxas's memories"
"While Roxas continues to explore Twilight Town, Vexen secretly collects Roxas's memory of the town as data. "

Source that Vexen was lying in CoM? 21:25, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

At the end
Is there any confirmation that Vexen regains his heart after the final battle? The edit that put it on his page says that he no longer has yellow eyes during the end scene, but that has nothing to do with whether he is a Nobody or complete person. The yellow eyes were just signifying that they had a piece of Xehanort's heart in them; otherwise, the original Organization XIII would all have had yellow eyes from the start. So his green(edit) eyes now would just be a sign that he is no longer a vessel for Xehanort, which would make sense since Xehanort is officially gone now. Unless there was something I missed? Sirlionel13 (talk) 00:10, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

His eyes were green, not blue. CrinosWolf500 (talk) 00:29, 20 February 2019 (UTC)


 * My mistake, fixed it. Question still stands, though Sirlionel13 (talk) 00:45, 21 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Points in favour of being Even instead of Vexen in the ending: Saix faded away, and when Isa returned, he lacks ‘Nort’s signature yellow eyes or pointed ears (I think the implication is that it triggered some sort of “purge”). Xigbar didn’t fade like the others, and when he appears in the epilogue, he does have them. Then again, Xigbar’s situation is unique, so…  Ultima Spark   (talk)  Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png 11:59, 21 February 2019 (UTC)