Forum:Ven is sora and Roxas

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I believe that Ventus is Roxas and Sora before they became a Heartless and Nobody if you think about it here is my theorie

Ventus Aquas and Terra were great friends and Xehanort was theyre enemy so here is what happened. Xehanort was not Xehanort but possessed by some dark being (Explaining why his Aprentice came from his body) this being has lived probably since before time and Xehanort is its name Terra I beleive becomes the new host for this being Aquas is born and becomes Kairi and Ven is born and becomes Sora sooooo I think that Ven and Aquas are unbirths (someone who has not yet been born)

One thing I don't get: Why does Ven, Terra, and Aqua have Keyblades? I thought incomplete beings can't get Keyblades unless they are connected to a Keyblade wielder. But in the trailer, Xenahort was called "Master". Which sounds like Xenahort could be their teacher. If this being is so powerful, why does it need to live in other beings? How come Riku doesn't have an Unbirth? 68.82.162.148 03:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

But what is an Unbirth? Someone that hasn't been born yet? so an Unbirth is a ghost? Like what Xenahort was in Kingdom Hearts? Personally, I think an Unbirth is what happens to the soul when the heart becomes a Heartless and a body becomes a Nobody. 68.82.162.148 03:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Or another theory: If a heart and a body becomes a person, maybe a heartless and an nobody combined will become the opposite of a being, the opposite of a birth (THE UNBIRTH). Oh, wait, this was supposed to be about Ven being Roxas and Sora. Oh, well. 68.82.162.148 03:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

If my first explanation is true, I wonder what Sora's, Kairi's, and Xenahort's Unbirth would look like. 149.150.236.189 19:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Wouldn't Aqua be Kairi's Unbirth? And since Terra resembles Xenahort, I'm thinking Terra could be Xenahort's Unbirth. I wonder that in the future games, if Sora, Kairi, and Riku are going to become Chasers and get that cool-looking armor. 68.82.162.148 04:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Aqua could lose her heart to darkness. Why couldn't she lose her heart to darkness? Why can't I assume a connection between Aqua and Kairi? It could be just one big coincidence. But until I actually get the game, I will make up hundreds of logical and illogical theories. Augment96 01:23, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't think Ven is either of them cause Roxas didn't exist 10 years ago and sora was on destiny islands at the time--Goma107 01:31, 5 June 2009 (UTC)goma107

Ven is what Roxas was. Ven was the unbirth. Something happened to him. This "something" changed Ven (the unbirth) to Roxas (the nobody). This "something" has a connection to Sora and maybe Xenahort. 68.82.162.148 18:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

SPOILER ALERT I read on another website that summarized the game that sora is holding Ven's heart because he died. He also had Kairi's heart when he stabbed himself in KH one. If Kairi's nobody, Namine, was created this way then what if Roxas was actually Ven's nobody? Or at least had part of creating Roxas?