Talk:Heart

Is it really correct to assume that heart is connected with memories? Roxas is considered unique among Nobodies in that he doesn't remember his previous life, so we can say that most Nobodies do remember when they had a heart. Thus, memories seem to be stored within the soul. If I remember correctly, there has been a mention of people remembered within the heart. Maybe memories of events are stored within the soul, while people known and feelings go to the heart? - EclipseDragon 16:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe back-up memories are stored in the soul, which is why Nobodies remember things, like emotions, but the Heart is the main source for memories, emotions and people. Adam148 17:15, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

This could make sense. Like, souls would have memories as we have them in real world, just as reminiscences of the past, and hearts would contain "live" memories, which would both serve as the reminiscences and do all these crazy things like resonating and linking one person to another. Correct me if I missed anything canon in my theories, it's been a while since I last played any kind of Kingdom Hearts. EclipseDragon 19:02, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

yeah but then your saying that nobodies have no memory but the past but thats not true because they do have memory i'm not sure exactly at what you mean by "live" memory, live memory could be anything, are you talking about like short term memory, memory of the moment because if you are then your saying that nobodies don't have this which isnt true, they wouldnt be able to take in any new information which they do, they conduct experientments and they know what they are which wouldn't be achieved without a live or short term memory, they wouldnt be able to store new informationPhade Paradox 21:06, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

No, no, that's not at all what I meant. I suppose I didn't make myself specific enough. I theorized that the Nobodies may have normal memories of events that had happened, but without a heart, these memories wouldn't be able to do all the fancy things hearts do with them, like linking people together (For instance, when in KHII the real Twilight Town's gang seemed to remember Roxas/Sora, or when at the very beginning of CoM Sora's memories made his friends from Traverse Town remember his name without even knowing it, and it's said in the Reports that there are ways in which heart works that haven't been fully understood). In other words, Nobodies' memory only serves as memory for their personal use, while a normal person with a heart would also be linked through his or her memories to others. That would certainly fit into all the talk about hearts blending together, etc. And memories that can link a person to other people are what I called "live". So, in essence, souls and hearts remember in just the same way, but hearts also do metaphysical things souls alone are unable to do. Of course, it's also possible that I'm thinking about it way too much;P. Hope I at least made my point clearer than last time. - EclipseDragon 21:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

yeah that makes more sense - Phade Paradox 22:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm... Well with the argument about memories... The argument "Why do Nobodies have memories if memories are kept in the heart?" reminds me of "Why can Roxas wield the Keyblade without have a heart?". I suppose memories are connected with more than just the heart in this context. The benefits and "linkage" of memories might be within the heart, but the physical, neurological synapses are within the soul. I dont think heartless are corrupted hearts.I mean they´re called Heartless so they cant have a heart. Summon:WALL•E 05:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, actually it isn't that heartless have no hearts, it's that the heartless is a heart in which the essence of darkness within the heart has overpowered the light and taken over control. In essence, a heartless is a heart in which the balance of light and dark has shifted in favour of the darkness and the light loses its control. That is why when a heartless is killed by a keyblade, the darkness releases its grip and the heart is then freed and returns to Kingdom Hearts as seen in KHII.

Hey, do you think we should add something about the art of heart release? I find it to be mildly confusing while some find it completely confusing. From what I know, hearts are only released by the keyblade. The thing is, I saw some cutscene clips that involved Cloud and Sephiroth "killing" heartless, and hearts came out. Would that mean that the hearts are released? Or would they become heartless again, like Marluxia said in 358/2 days? Or is it possible that only Nobodies cannot release hearts with their weapons? Maybe anybody with a heart and a weapon (w/ a weapon, because when the Beast killed the neoshadows in 358/2, they didnt have a heart appear) can release them?--RyuuseiSoul 23:28, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Heart Release + Connection to Memory
How/where could/would we phrase this? The heart IS connected to memory, hence Castle Oblivion and all that memory/emotion junk. As for heart release, Keyblade wielders are the only ones who can release hearts...yet non-Keyblade wielders like the other Org. members, Sephiroth, and others can cause hearts to appear as well. - EternalNothingnessXIII 17:57, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, the heart is connected to memory, no doubt. Even though non-Keyblade wielders can cause hearts to appear, these hearts soon form other Heartless. As for Keyblade wielders, the hearts go straight up to Kingdom Hearts. See the difference now ?  TNÉ  Pour Noël je te donnerai le battement de mon cœur… ♥ 00:06, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

An actual Heart
A thing that bugs me that I think is never said in the series is that do charactars in the KH universe have normal blood pumping organ hearts, does anyone have an answer?Avatar symbiote 13:27, January 21, 2011 (UTC)Avatar symbiote
 * Hearts in the KH universe aren't as physical as they are spiritual or symbolic. The actual organ, I'd say everyone but the Heartless and Unversed has. maggosh 15:23, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Xemnas
If I recall correctly, the interview in question states something like "we don't know whether Xemnas can wield a Keyblade, only that he didn't." 19:45, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Found it!. Nomura-sensei said, "I'd rather that point remain a mystery. It's possible that he intentionally wasn't using one." The implication is there, but it's still not completely confirmed.-- 04:24, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Sentence Change
Shouldn't the sentence: "Hearts either become trapped in monstrous shells, as in the case of Emblem Heartless, or physically shattered and rearranged to create those monsters, as with Pureblood Heartless" be changed? (This sentence is in the "When a Heart is Broken" section btw). Pureblood Heartless are born from the darkness in people's hearts, not shattered and rearranged hearts. --Elfdemon (talk) 08:44, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Really, this whole edit needs to be reviewed for whether the citations support it. 16:36, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Specifically, we need to start listing citations from the scripts and Ultimania to correct this page. Anyone who's interested in helping, do so below. See Talk:Heartless for an example. 20:02, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Unversed
"Unlike Heartless and Nobodies (which can be swayed to serve another should their will prove stronger or become unruly in in worlds close to the darkness), Unversed are completely obedient to their master as they are extensions of Vantias himself. Because of such, the Unversed lack any interst in hearts themselves, but are drawn to strong sources of negativity and pure lights."

What about the Spirit of the Magic Mirror? 12:30, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Vanitas
''Hearts can regrow entirely new bodies for themselves to inhabit as long as they have a medium to help rebuild their body and someone who has memories of them. The medium can be of different things as shown with Sora, who used Kairi's heart; Master of Masters, who used the Keyblade No Name, and Vanitas, who used Ventus's body.

What's the context for this? As in, when was it stated Vanitas grew a new body? Or is this talking about his formation in the first place? -- mikoto 04:33, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * If it is about his creation, there wouldn't be anyone with memories of him, right? I think it's best to remove it unless someone can provide a source. 17:48, 23 March 2023 (UTC)