KHWiki:Roundtable

Roundtables are meetings held on the #KHWiki-noticeboard IRC channel every 1st Friday of the month at <span class="explain" title="Wiki Time is UTC: UTC ± 0 • NDT:  UTC - 2.5 • ADT:  UTC - 3 • NST:  UTC - 3.5 • AST:  UTC - 4 • EDT:  UTC - 4 •   CDT:  UTC - 5 • EST:  UTC - 5 •  CST:  UTC - 6 •  MDT:  UTC - 6 •  MST:  UTC - 7 •  PDT:  UTC - 7 •  AKDT:  UTC - 8 • PST:  UTC - 8 •  AKST:  UTC - 9 •  ADT:  UTC - 9 •  HAST:  UTC - 10 •    CXT:  UTC + 7 •  AWST:  UTC + 8 •  AWDT:  UTC + 9 •  ACST:  UTC + 9.5 •  AEST:  UTC + 10 •  ACDT:  UTC + 10.5 •  AEDT:  UTC + 11 •  NFT:  UTC + 11.5 •  GMT:  UTC ± 0 •  WET:  UTC ± 0 •  BST:  UTC + 1 •  CET:  UTC + 1 •  IST:  UTC + 1 •  WEDT / WEST:  UTC + 1 •  CEDT / CEST:  UTC + 2 •  EET:  UTC + 2 •  EEDT / EEST:  UTC + 3 •  MSK:  UTC + 3 •  MSD:  UTC + 4  ">7:00pm Wiki Time (UTC 0)  (if the meeting is cancelled, or cannot be held due to an inadequate amount of staff, the meeting will be moved to the second Saturday of the month, at 9:00pm Wiki Time). These meetings are to discuss the current situation and the future of our Wiki. Any user is invited to the meetings. If you have any questions, or want to point out a problem about the wiki, you can come and be listened to. Below are the logs and summaries for the meetings already held:

Meeting 1, March 05, 2011 Summary

 * Copyleft - copying/pasting from khwiki.net -> khwikia must have permission from this wiki.
 * Old wiki will link back to the new wiki.
 * Affiliates should link to the new wiki.
 * No affiliation to the old wikia
 * Monaco is needed
 * A small group of users should keep the community portal/Traverse Town updated
 * Heartless Manufactury is a go.

Meeting 2, March 06, 2011 Summary

 * Images auditing should be done as following:
 * 1)  template for fanart images and duplicated images.
 * 2)  template for images that don't follow the naming standards.
 * 3)  template for non-.png or non-animated.gif images.
 * Article auditing should be as the following:
 * 1) Compare articles from both wikis by coping & pasting the Wikia article to the Wiki one and clicking "Show Changes"
 * 2) If any change is spotted, they should be added in selectively based on what looks appropriate.
 * @KHWiki Twitter, KHWiki Facebook, Photobucket Account and YouTube Channel belongs to this Wiki and not Wikia's.
 * The staff in charge of each of these sites should be listed on the wiki's Staff page.
 * All wiki staff should make sure to idle on the IRC noticeboard while online.
 * KHWiki:Mirage Arena is open again.

Meeting 3, April 09, 2011 Summary

 * Featured Article - Dragoon
 * Card articles;
 * 1) Card: space will not be deleted, consolidated, or added into mainspace.
 * Heartless Manufactory;
 * 1) Its purpose is to get users with issues with each other to work together so that they understand the other users are indeed useful.
 * 2) Serious disputes or arguments impacting the wiki (edit wars) - staff get involved
 * 3) Less serious - staff involvement optional.
 * Auditing progress
 * 1) Cardspace not needed
 * 2) Userspace not needed
 * 3) Mainspace almost done
 * 4) Imagespace still needs work
 * 5) Somebody really needs to check the progress and see what still needs to be done
 * Avatar Menu
 * DTN, ENX, and ShardofTruth - Scratch Cards
 * Monaco needs to be the default skin

Meeting 4, May 07, 2011 Summary

 * Featured Media
 * Nominated media may not have a watermark
 * Featured Media will now be changed more than once a month, every ten days.
 * The audit still has a long way to go before completion. Work on the imagespace needs to be stepped up, and work on the mainspace must continue as usual.
 * Users who do not contribute much in the Heartless Manufactory task given to them will not have their warning removed until they do legitimate work.
 * Users may begin working on ideas for redesigning the main page.
 * All off- site accounts must be used for official wiki business.
 * Walkthough: space will be created.
 * Wiki sponsered walkthoughs
 * Sorted by world.
 * Competent users who are on the social IRC channel must also be on the noticeboard, and should not ignore those asking for help.
 * Decisions made during non- official IRC meetings need to be made public on the wiki before they can take effect.

Meeting 5, June 04, 2011 Summary

 * Trinity Archives: Trinity Archives to include information of recent game announcements and important wiki happenings.
 * Offsite links:DeviantART removed of offsite accounts, Youtube used for guides and boss battles, Photobucket to hold offsite images, Twitter to work as similar to Trinity Archives and Facebook to send out messages to users easily.
 * Image renovation: Image conversion taken on as part of the forum.
 * Roundtable decisions: Decisions on roundtables happen as soon as possible.
 * Plans after audit: Cleanup and image renovation.
 * "Thank You" Template made and posted on each user's userpage.
 * Mirage Arena: Ownership of Mirage Arena handed to LapisScarab and Erry.

Meeting 6, August 07, 2011 Summary

 * Savings on the wiki: File saves will be uploaded to filesharing sites and linked to under userspace.
 * Featured Media methoding and ties: Featured media will include both tied files, using and parameters.
 * SEIWA progress: SEIWA meetings will be held to hold such issues as this.
 * Logging will be done by Sapharus if she is present, otherwise by any other person. Summarizing will be done by Erry.
 * Walkthroughs: Issue moved to Forum as there is a possibility of hosting it off-wiki.
 * IRC rules: Unsettled, to be discussed later.
 * Status on image renovation: The filespace needs a large amount of work, mainly on moving pages to their correct names, purging jpgs, and transpareticisng.
 * Orphaned pages: Database problem, may need Porple's help. Apart from that, work is to be started on that.
 * Unadmining of members and new group for delete/move rights: Neumannz will contact Kryten for new group.
 * Moving roundtable to a new date: New forum thread to be made to make final forum decision.

Meeting 7, September 03, 2011 Summary

 * Staff member activity: Members contacted about inactivity.
 * Walkthrough images: Images will be allowed under Category:Walkthrough Images, however this it not to be abused.
 * Walkthrough status: Currently awaiting format discussion at Forum:Walkthrough Format, after that is done we can start walkthrough space.
 * New forum for data: Admin needs to create forum and then a layout for requests and putting out information.
 * Image renovation: Still lots of images that need to converted, project page made to hold list of images.
 * GrandPyromania: Contacted via KHWiki Youtube channel, awaiting response.
 * ErryK as OP: Pending conclusion, awaiting DoorToNothing's response.
 * Backup list of articles to be featured: Many articles need to be edited to qualify, Clean up of the Month being removed to allow for Main Page suggestions.

== Meeting 8, October 08, 2011 Summary ==
 * ErryK, yet again, not being reopped until further rethought opinions of community.
 * Redlinks will be changed gradually when we end up reaching them.
 * End-of-year ideas to be discussed by the staff at a later date.
 * Agreement between Keyhole and Kingdom Hearts Wiki will be written at a later date when all people involved are present.
 * Main Page renovation will be discussed in this forum.
 * DoorToNothing will consult Kryten about videos in the Walkthrough namespace.

Meeting 9, November 05, 2011 Summary

 * Plan for walkthrough pages is within logs, walkthrough-only images will be made for multi-character boss battles.
 * ErryK to be reopped before community decision, however deopped if community requests he be deopped.
 * Kryten or Neumannz to be given founder status on IRC channels.

Meeting 10, May 05, 2012 Summary

 * Talk of Operation Super Merge will tell is whether we continue or stop it entirely, depending on the views of the community.
 * Affiliates have been taken into consideration in to further our connections and to add to our traffic.
 * The situation with the Wikia wiki will be kept as is.
 * The IRC channels will be kept as is until the purge by freenode occurs, in that case we will go under the channel #seiwa-KHWiki and a temporary channel will be made for roundtables or any other wiki matters.
 * A namespace for Form: will be made to take care the current situation with the form pages, such as Form: The Grid to compliment the Data Forms included in Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance.

Meeting 11, July 21, 2012 Summary

 * List of differences will be made on a separate page using the suite template.
 * Maps will be included on a separate page using the suite template.
 * The abbreviations featured in Dream Drop Distance will be used.
 * And the KHWiki shall not merge with the TWEWY Wiki as they are similar to the Final Fantasy cameos.

Meeting 12, September 01, 2012 Summary

 * A new page, Image Requests will be added to the wiki allowing people to have certain images made transparent, find higher quality versions or replaced with new ones.
 * TWEWY is not canon with KH3D.
 * Form: will merge back into the world page in an appearance section, Form: will stay.

Meeting 13, October 06, 2012 Summary

 * Regarding the timeline, it is being revised on the talk page, however a few things here and there are missing but it should be based off the ingame journals and minimal info from the scripts.
 * For the time being,TWEWY is not canon, similar to the Final Fantasy characters. Shibuya exists within the Kingdom Hearts universe but is not the same Shibuya, as in alternate universe. However Nomura makes the final decision.
 * World articles will be splitted into two pages, one with the story and descriptions, another with treasures, portals, trinities, etc.
 * The Kingdom Hearts (series) page has no depth on 358/2 Days, so it should be added.
 * The templates will all be changed to say "Antagonist" instead of "Villain", due to the controversy between the definition of the latter.
 * A Keyblade War will not be held this year, as it is simply too late for any organized event, next year however, is possible.
 * Things such as LGBTQ, religion, politics and the like can be discussed as long as no insults are thrown. You can casually talk about something as long as nothing is in offense. Additionally, we discourage the act of pushing your beliefs onto others.
 * The parsers used in links, page names and templates are located on the Image Policy page.
 * Nothing has been said on SEIWA, so that issue will be moved to the next month by default.
 * A forum will be made regarding the merge with The Keyhole, as the site lacks the users to continue their side of the merge. The forum will be seeking people who can help on the other side.

Meeting 14, November 10, 2012 Summary

 * SEIWA is currently in the works of adding a new Wiki to the alliance, anyone wishing to help with this may contact Erry.
 * Pages for Tetsuya Nomura, Yoko Shimomura, Takeharu Ishimoto, Tsuyoshi Sekito, Utada Hikaru, Shiro Amano and List of VA's will be made, and a collective "Square Enix" page detailing the company.
 * Staff cleanup moved to next month.
 * Twitter account requires an extra hand due to it being run by a single member. Youtube will remain on standby until a user offers their services to record, Erry is saving up to buy a 3DS capture card to record KH3D gameplay.
 * All old form pages to be deleted immediately.
 * End of Year Event sign-up closed, volunteers contacted to add info and list of goals being made. Further info will be available on the 15th.

Meeting 15, December 08, 2012 Summary

 * Chitalian8 will be removed off staff and Troisnyxettiene and EternalNothingnesXIII have been warned of their possible removal from staff.
 * Majority of userboxes will be removed with the exception of language, gender and game accomplishments among others.
 * Featured Media and Articles rules will remain as they are.

Meeting 16, January 05, 2013 Summary

 * Staff Policy introduced and being developed over forum.
 * Quote pages for various characters will be created depending on how important they are to the series.
 * End of Year Event conclusion resolved.

Meeting 17, February 02, 2013 Summary

 * Staff pages will be created for Tetsuya Nomura, Yoko Shimomura, etc.
 * Staff Policy will be decided even further in the next roundtable.

Meeting 18, March 02, 2013 Summary

 * A quarterly newsletter will be further discussed within users.
 * Dream Eater format and the Staff Policy will be continued in the next roundtable.

==Meeting 19, April 06, 2013 Summary ==
 * Staff Policy has been finalized and is present here, additionally with finalizing the details, two of our staff have been demoted; one to moderator and one to regular editor. Reason as to why this is is to be disclosed soon.
 * Dream Eater format will be dealt with between Erry, TheFifteenthMember and MateusinhoEX.
 * Let's Play organized for next month, will feature Erry, UnknownChaser and Sora1995.

Meeting 20, May 10, 2013 Summary

 * Podcast will be recorded every 3 months, bundled with magazine and uploaded to wiki as .ogg. Erry, Neumannz and Chaser will be part of the recording team.
 * Two pages will be created for lists holding staff and voice actors/actresses that will link to Square Enix Wiki and Wikipedia, respectively.
 * A page will NOT be created due to our longstanding policy of omitting trivia as much as possible.
 * Time Travel, both forms from Dream Drop Distance and II will be described on the Universe of Kingdom Hearts page.
 * LP is to be discussed later, among Sora1995, Chaser and Erry.
 * A page for minor characters will be created.

Meeting 21, August 02, 2013 Summary

 * Kingdom Hearts χ cards will use a naming schema based on whatever is picked from here.
 * New let's play to be scheduled.
 * MateusinhoEX's templates to be implemented.
 * Traverse Town is the most complete Game: article, as such it is the best example so far for Game: articles.

Meeting 22, September 08, 2013 Summary

 * Magazine is dropped in favor of a much easier approach with a podcast. A forum will be opened to recruit people to host it.
 * Let's Play discussion moved to October.
 * Erry will help the Keyhole with any issues regarding the site layout and what not.

Meeting 23, November 14, 2013 Summary

 * Manga images are approved to be put into character galleries.
 * Walkthrough: space to be revived, a forum thread is being made to accompany this.
 * Walkthrough will be added to sidebar, and suite template.
 * FM content will be added into walkthroughs.

Meeting 24, April 04, 2014 Agenda
''Any user can add to the agenda to be covered at the next meeting. Whether you are present at the meeting or not, the resulting discussion highlights will be included in the summary.''


 * Regarding gif animations: Currently there is no example page on how they should be optimally dealt with. Things that should be considered:
 * Do they clutter the page, remove the focus from the text if there are too many of them, especially on ability pages where the descriptions are often very short? Should the numerous ability animations that change from game to game be moved to the gallery space or kept at one location of the page instead (probably tabbed)?
 * What should be their optimal or at least maximum height and width? This is important considering the game they are created from (handheld or console, 4:3, 16:9 or other) and how the page is watched (desktop resolution, mobile resolution etc.). As the wiki image renderer (which automatically resizes an image to the desired dimensions) is limited for gif animations regarding file size and frame number, should the animations uploaded and/or updated in these dimensions? 22:12, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
 * comment: I can't make the meeting, but I feel that the animations should be no larger than 300px wide, and otherwise natural height; we can probably do with one lead animation and the rest in the gallery, unless there is too much image-less space on the article (arbitrary). 01:50, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Additional help required in Mirage Arena. 12:58, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * New staff? Promotions? 12:58, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Doubtful that I can make the meeting as well. On what grounds is this called for?-- Xion 4  ever  20:13, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * A well-written manual of style for the manga-related pages, especially for the ones translated by both Tokyopop and Yen Press to avoid name conflits, as a few chapters have different names. 06:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Keeping Featured Media or not. It's been on the quiet side for some time now. Less than three users actively participate; couple months there have been no featured media due to lack of activity. One sided winners/votes are not the way to go.-- Xion 4  ever  23:41, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * How to deal with unattributed DisneyWiki images? 16:41, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
 * If I may, I'd go as far as to question the nature of this Wiki's relationship with the Disney Wiki in general. 21:30, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Dealing with the Furious Volley page and other similar ability pages. (See Here) Eternal_Flames_KHD.png Chain   offire  Pizza Cut KHD.png 01:02, 20 March 2014 (UTC)