Talk:Armor of Eraqus

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Stats
So is there any source of its stats? HP, Strength, Immunities, all that good stuff. Mar 04:42, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Merging

 * No, we shouldn't. Armor of the Master and No Heart are not the same kind of thing the Lingering Will is, according to that Nomura interview. They are data simulations of Eraqus and Xehanort, just like the Ice Colossus battle is a data simulation of the Ice Colossus, MA Zack to Zack, or the Replica Data in KH2FM are to the Organization. No other article has separate coverage of bosses that are the original vs. a data simulation (barring coded, which is a very special case), and if we separate these, logically we have to separate those, as well as the Unversed articles for all Unversed who appear in the MA. 17:44, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * They actually use many of the same techniques, for one, and the difference in attacks is not much different than the difference between the Replica Data and Absent Silhouettes and their originals, which we did merge. On the "appearance" tac, Xemnas has about five different appearances, but they are all covered on one page. 04:51, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hell, we have "Xemnas" and "Xemnas (Armored Controller)" covered on the same page. If that's not precedent, I don't know what is. 04:53, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * IMO, since No Heart and AotM aren't exactly Eraqus and MX, we should let them have their own pages, similar to Lingering Will that's not exactly Terra, yet we don't merge them 05:22, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * The Lingering Will has a completely separate nature. AotM is seriously a data replica of Eraqus. 05:26, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * ....you have a point, Then I agree on moving the page to Eraqus's. But, what about No Heart? Nomura hasn't confirmed yet if it's MX's armor or not, right? Moving it to MX's page would be speculatibg. 05:44, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * But at what point does obviousness exceed speculation? :| -- 20:06, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'm with iZeroX, these two pages should be separate. I'm pretty much going by the Journal entries here; are there separate Journal entries for Armored Controller and Reg!Xemnas? -- 17:44, 12 February 2011 (EST)

Data Simulation?
How do we know how the AotM and No Heart are data simulations?-- Ax  ek  en    07:36, February 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Everything in the Mirage Arena is a simulation, even the Unversed. 04:32, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Query
Which command styles does it use?Neo Bahamut 17:19, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna go and say Wingblade. 17:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Spellweaver for Aqua, Critical Impact for Terra and Fever Pitch for Ventus, if I'm not mistaken. 18:01, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Rename as "Armor of Eraqus"
I don't know if YouTube videos count as good sources, but... the 0:28 mark of this vid clearly shows the enemy's name as "Armor of Eraqus". Can't really argue there. Immblueversion (talk) 02:17, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Is that a journal entry? If it's the pre-battle scroll, then those frequently use alternate names. 15:35, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * In case you can't see it, here. It's either the new official name or an alternate one that deserves a redirect at the very least. 17:19, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't accept this, of all new translations and re-translation done for 1.5 & 2.5 this one has to be the worst. 18:35, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. It's just silly. -- 18:50, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * So we're rejecting a name for being silly? Whatever happened to using official English translations? Doesn't the Manual of Style state that each article must share the official name of its subject? Do you plan to keep that Translation template up forever? Yeah, I know the English translations haven't had perfect track records. I mean, who else remembers the names of Ansem's apprentices? But those were honest mistranslations that were later fixed. No matter which way I look at it, this is more a deliberate name change. And if we're not going to be acknowledging this change, then I guess we'd might as well change things such as Critical Impact, Spellweaver, Royal Radiance and Master's Defender back. That, and I honestly see nothing wrong with the name "Armor of Eraqus" because, well, it's Eraqus's armor. The armor of the Master. Otherwise, I'll just get a confirmation on the enemy's Journal entry. Immblueversion (talk) 15:46, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

We're not really saying we're not gonna use it, we are, we have to, it's our policy, we just think it's a ridiculous choice on the part of the localization team, and we choose to NEVER BE HAPPY ABOUT IT EVER.

But yeah, we are going to move it, don't worry. Just let us have our hissy fit. -- 15:53, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
 * As Neumannz said, this page will be moved. A screenshot or linked video of the journal entry (along with No Heart and Monstro) would still be nice though. -- 18:28, 24 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Truth be told, you're all taking this much better than certain other Wikis I'm familiar with. I still can't get over how stubborn admins can get. In the meantime, I'm doing everything in my limited power to get the proper info. Immblueversion (talk) 19:22, 24 December 2014 (UTC)