User talk:KrytenKoro/Archive 12

Re: Sora's Abilities
So is that the plan? It seems a little iffy, considering how combo finishers don't (or, at least haven't) reoccur from installment to installment. Although you're definitely right about not having circular redirects. --Neumannz 22:11, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

More about Days abilities
There are still a number of Days abilities/panels/etc. that need special handling. By which I mean, merged somehow. I suggested a while ago using a page like this one to cover the Lock-On-related abilities (and Lock-On itself). What did you think of using it? If it works, the same style can be used for the Limit Break-related abilities and Level Up-related panels. (I'm not sure what to do with the magic modifying panels though. Would we put them on the Magic article, or somewhere else?) --Neumannz 03:27, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Arbitrary section breaks
Why don't you just do the same to all the others instead of merely Donald? --Charmed-Jay 05:38, April 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Donald's page still has sub-headers under "Kingdom Hearts" and "CoM". Do they go, too? --Neumannz 05:53, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Days Mission
I'm currently inserting Mission Summary/Intel/Objectives information on Mission articles, but I wasn't sure about formatting. I put the summary in italics and made the other sections bullet points, but I saw that when you put those into Mission 10 early on, you had them all normal text. What do you think? --Neumannz 18:35, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, must have gone on autopilot there.
 * That's another thing I don't like about the guide. Unless you already know what MG represents, it doesn't mean a whole lot. Though I guess it's not a big deal, just that it doesn't associate the mission gauge with extra rewards anywhere else on the page. --Neumannz 19:04, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Do we have a page like that? Actually, maybe we should have a either a footnote or a template like Template:KH. Or... something like finalfantasy:Template:Foot. --Neumannz 19:40, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Check out Mission 03 to see what I went with. --Neumannz 05:37, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re:KHW Missions
The dark deed you requested has been done. -- 23:00, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Soldier 63
Hmm... interesting catch. I'm not seeing a Soldier in this mission. The only Emblem Heartless I can find is yon Lurk Lizard. But the Soldier must appear in a mission in which it drops--Got it. It's supposed to be Mission 83. Ah, those wacky BradyGames dudes. --Neumannz 23:45, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts affillates

 * What does the Sims have to do with KH? The affiliates section is more of a topical outreach, I thought, not just whoever we like. Glorious  CHAOS!  03:59, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Monaco
If you would be so kind as to double-check the Wiki's monaco if you are able. Whenever I find myself in the Recent Changes or certain articles, the Wiki's red background changes to blue and the background changes to match the Birth by Sleep wall paper. Only when I'm on a talk page or randomly on an article or other Wiki-space, does it keep its normal, 358/2 Days theme. I'd assume it's merely a bug with Wikia, but this problem (which happened rarely on-and-off before) has started to become more and more common, at least for me. If you are unable to find any errors or even get a chance to check the monaco at all, I understand and apologize for the trouble. If we can get the problem to cease, then thanks. - Eternal  Nothingness  XIII  22:08, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I've been seeing that a lot, too. It seems that it also has some effects on articles, such as moving the images from the Game template, or causing tabs not to form. --Neumannz 22:32, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not that there's a BBS wallpaper - the Days wallpaper is simply not loading, so it defaults to the normal wikibook background. I can ask wikia about it, but I'm fairly certain that it's just that things get lost on the way from the servers. Glorious  CHAOS!  22:59, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Whatever it is, you may wish to include the fact that the side-effects Neumanz mentioned never used to happen when this was a rare anomaly. - Eternal  Nothingness  XIII  23:02, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * The effects you are seeing are all do to our wiki's customized common.js and common.css file. For example, the code for the game template would normally put it at the top left of the page, as a normal image, but we modified the css and js files so that the template's "div class" would be placed in the message section, at the top right of the page. When we added tabs to the wiki, we also modified this file. Finally, the Days background is due to code in this file which loads an image we uploaded normally. Our main logo is not affected because, by default, every wiki uploads its logo from a file with a certain name, so we can modify our logo just by uploading an image with that name.
 * For some reason, the js and css files will infrequently refuse to load, which causes you to see our wiki how it would be without the coding infrastructure we've brought up. This is almost certainly due to server troubles, not any coding malady on our side. However, I'll bring it up to wikia - next time you see it, could you take a screenshot so that they know exactly what I'm talking about? Glorious  CHAOS!  23:07, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Here. --Neumannz 23:17, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Here a more ridiculous example. I got the whole page this time. --Neumannz 00:30, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Accessories Template
What are your thoughts on an accessory template for the accessory pages? It would allow easy means of navigation for both users and readers to and from the numerous accessory pages. Plus, it would help "complete" the page; similar to the use of the synthesis materials template on synthesis material pages. I've created a model template that has all accessories (that we have on the wiki) from Kingdom Hearts to Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. I'll paste a copy of the template below, feel free to remove it from here if you see fit. Note, colors are for example purposes only. Should we decide to use the template they can/will be changed. Thanks, sorry for the bother.-- Xion 4  ever  22:53, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see now. Thanks for the feedback, sorry to bother you!-- Xion 4  ever  23:09, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Multi-slot Panels
I've asked ShardofTruth if he could upload full images of multi-link panels. He's looking at a few options and I wondered if you could give an opinion. I was thinking option 2 would be good if we made galleries in the articles, and option 3 would be good to put in the body of an article, like how we've been inserting images so far. --Neumannz 17:07, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

DiZ
We already had this argument here. It's nothing more than a name change and a disguise, so it's not a "form". --Neumannz 18:05, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

The Captains are no longer treated as separate on this wiki, and Riku-Ansem has different abilities than regular Riku. --Neumannz 18:37, May 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Please read any of the discussions at Talk:Ansem the Wise or Template talk:Form. Glorious  CHAOS!  19:21, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Image Problem

 * As long as it's for your talkbox, the images should be fine. However, you have to clearly note that when you upload the image, or the admins could delete it anyway. Glorious  CHAOS!  01:31, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! Last thing; is this:, correct? It's supposed to be "Sleeping LionHeart". Sleepy LionHeart 01:37, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's fine. They don't use spaces, though. Glorious  CHAOS!  01:45, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

The Empress
Neumannz wished new images for some KHD weapons, The Empress should have be the same width as The Hierophant. I uploaded another version and I hope it looks better. If not, just rollback to Mizumaru's version. --ShardofTruth 07:01, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

panel articles
Just created Magic Panel. Planning on doing the same for Level Up and related panels (not including Backpack and Pack Extender). Starting to think we should also do the same for Gear--I mean, to merge all Gear articles with it, not just to put the Units there. After all, they are all pretty bare by themselves. Thoughts? --Neumannz 07:50, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

re: arabic template
Well, whatever the issue was, it was fixed after I took out the line break, so I'm not worried about it. --Neumannz 18:38, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

rely to your message
.. by the way, i'm new on here.. i only know 2 people.. wanna be friends?

Xegoreg 20:41, May 11, 2010 (UTC)Xegoreg

"You can all vote once each for any of the top editors that you feel should get mod."
Wait, that means that I royally screwed everything up by letting them all get up to six votes, didn't I? Do we need to restart, then, or at least have everyone re-vote? -- 21:18, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I mean, it's fine so far. If they follow the thread, they'll see the clarification. Glorious  CHAOS!  21:42, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding deck commands page
Its official,Solo Arcanum is Ars Solonum in the english version.Its in one of the screen shots. The japanese version calls the command Last Arcanum.Its most likely its going to be Ars Arcanum in the english release. Its Surge,not blitz.Again its in the english screen shots. Reflect Blitz...i mean Reflect Surge isn't Aqua only. Magnet Crash is that cool move Ven did on captain hook in the Game fiesta 2010 trailer. Degen is a mistranslation.Its suppossed to be X-Zone/Banish/Warpinator. And you mixed up Atmos Break's effects with Warpinator.Atmos Break sends surrounding enemies bouncing around the field.Again, its in the Game Fiesta 2010 trailer, where Aqua uses it on Vanitas.

Thank You : )175.156.81.225 13:08, May 14, 2010 (UTC)Zaqaree
 * Until the English game is released and all these names are finalized, we're just going to use the Japanese names for the Commands and such. It makes a huge mess to try and dub just some of the names and not the rest. Thank you, though. Glorious  CHAOS!  13:36, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

"journal" entries
Are we really using the descriptions from the instruction booklet as journal entries? Something doesn't seem right about that to me. --  Neumannz ,  The Dark Falcon  06:13, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * They seem redundant to the intro cutscene, but if people think its a good idea, we should discuss it. Glorious  CHAOS!  14:53, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Personally, I'm against it, but it's not intrinsically wrong, so I'm not going to revert it yet. Glorious  CHAOS!  15:10, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Your presence is requested
Well my oh my, I haven't a suit to wear. My only one is a bit blood-stained dirty.

Er, I commented. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. -- 03:55, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Catagory
Should a catagory be added for 'composite beings'? By this I mean characters who are created from the 'fusing' of other characters, Xehanort being a prime example. --Evnyofdeath 18:09, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Can you

 * Why would I do that? Glorious  CHAOS!  21:56, May 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's not encouraged, but it's not against the rules. Glorious  CHAOS!  12:39, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Graduation~!

 * Thanks man! Glorious  CHAOS!  02:59, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Congratulations KrytenKoro! I still have 1..2..3..4..5 years left till college. Such pain. --Auror. plus the great Andrachome 10:33, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Pride Lands or Pride Land?

 * I personally think "Pride Lands" is kind of like "China" for The Land of Dragons. I would think that it's fine to use in the text, but for the infoboxes we should use "Pride Land". It's mostly out of the way, anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem. Glorious  CHAOS!  20:25, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Okay...
You don't seem to like me. Auror. plus the great Andrachome
 * Thanks! I'm feeling much better now! Auror. plus the great Andrachome

Sorry but I accidently deleted the link for the YouTube video of the Ice Colosuss boss. Could you put it up again but this time make the link invisible.

Mission icons ?
Please see Talk:Gummi Missions, last two sections. Well, the second last is still in progress, but the last one - that needs your attention. Thanks. 05:49, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is it possible?
Is it possible that you can use the Shoot Lock while in D-Link mode?

What dose it look like? from EdgeShadow

Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Project Enemy/GALLERY
I don't know if you saw what I wrote on it so i'll ask you on your talk page, what kinda of important screenshots or animations do you have in mind?--Xabryn 17:38, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Variations of Shadow Sora
Isn't it a bit harsh to classify all these main characters as variations of an standard enemy? Roxas, Xion, Ventus and Vanitas aren't even Heartless. --ShardofTruth 18:21, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Similarly, Axel's Replica Data isn't a Nobody like he is. That's why I started a discussion on the SYNTHESIS page, because the first set is clearly Heartless with Sora's form, while the second set is forms of Sora, and there's an overlap. We should discuss whether we're just going for "same forms" here, or a more specific "same forms of the same type of thing". Glorious  CHAOS!  18:30, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hello...
NinjaSheik, I know we hate each other, but can we be friends?

Wrong page and I don't hate you.-- Ninja Sheik  16:41, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Protect Ring
Well, redirect links are generally frowned upon. Plus, there are no sections on Shield Tech that are specifically for just the Shield Tech++. -- 19:16, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I do agree that a redirect link is more functional thank a change-of-text link; I had to go through hundreds of articles to fix problems like that with "Donald" --> "Donald Duck" and "King Mickey" --> "Mickey Mouse". However, the small message that shows that you have just followed a redirect once you get to the subject of the redirect article makes it seem as though there was a mistake or error in the coding, which does not look good. The situation is, basically, an example of functionality vs. appearance. I am fine handling the link either way, but I know that in the past, these types of links have been a problem, as I have already stated. -- 19:36, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed
Wow... how did you do that? I'll mark the image now. The Inexistent 23:01, May 22, 2010 (UTC)The Inexistent
 * The original template used tables within tables and div tags, so I just redid it in the style of the other enemy templates. Glorious  CHAOS!  05:44, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Nice! The Inexistent 17:33, May 23, 2010 (UTC)The Inexistent

Re: Enemy
Two Q's about the Enemy template. --  Neumannz ,  The Dark Falcon  04:52, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) I can't remember what the AP stat represents from CoM.
 * 2) What does the REability parameter represent? Is there an article implementing it?

Which one?
Photoshopping done! The image is ready!

Quick question...
Hey, how are you? I hope you are doing okay! Still, I like the name I have everywhere else better than the one I have right now. If it is okay with you, I would like to use the name TheLunarEclipse. I don't want to delete ZexionTheGamer, but I want to change to my other name. Thanks, and I hope soon for your response, and I hope you are doing good!!!

Can you?
Put avatars on the command style like you did on the D-Link?

H-Hello...
Um... I've been talking to your sister a lot, and she talks about you some times. A lot of our interests are similar, by the sounds of it! I'd just like to talk to you a little more, if that's not too much trouble.

Also! How can I help you with your wiki? How do you guys find this knowledge that you put up on here? I mean, I don't even know where to start as far as contributions. Whatever you think I can do, I shall be very delighted to do so.-- &quot;How can ya be on and off topic at the same time? That&#39;s like sayin&#39; ya could have your shirt on and off at the same time, it&#39;s lunacy!&quot; 20:21, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Scare crow
Should someone try to find a picture of the "Roxas Scare crow" in Days? The Inexistent 20:58, May 25, 2010 (UTC)The Inexistent
 * Sure, but there's also artwork in the Ultimania. Glorious  CHAOS!  20:59, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Xion
Haha, in some places, sure, but mostly I'm just rewording things since we know she isn't an actual member.05:53, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Continuous stabbing
DTN is stabbed!

DTN regenerates!

Ahahahahaha no. -- 06:02, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Dark Whatever
This page and this page indicate that Vani's and Vani's Sentiment's Shoot Locks are called Dark Cannon, and Dark of Link is only Ven's version of it. --  Neumannz ,  The Dark Falcon  03:49, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * 'kay. It's absolutely not Obelisk, though. Glorious  CHAOS!  04:06, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, but I can see where that mistranslation came from. --  Neumannz ,  The Dark Falcon  04:14, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Project Enemy: story
I found something I could do, actually, after I saw your edit on my talk page. I wanted to do some of the story sections for the Heartless, I noticed quite a few of them are missing. I could definitely do some of the stories for Days enemies, as I own that game and I'm not borrowing it, like I am CoM. Misuki The Great &lt;3 20:41, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Project Enemy
I'm honored/flattered that you'd remember my interest in that particular field. I am aware that Project:Enemy was started, but your message on my talk page was a bit confusing. I saw Gallery:Sora... we're doing that for enemies now? And you want me to basically copy the coding for the Card: article template, and change it to apply to an enemy gallery, or just a gallery in general? Once any questions I have are cleared up, I'd love to do this, and then continue helping out with the project in any way I can. - Eternal  Nothingness  XIII  00:48, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * How is this? This would be a rather mediocre example, as I really would have preferred to upload an image where I joined the three emblems together into one image. Plus, the image probably shouldn't be coming out of the message box like that. This is just to see if this is what you had in mind, or if I need to do something different or more complex. - Eternal  Nothingness  XIII  11:26, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

You have no idea how strainful creating a new template can be. There's the problem of conflicting character usage and lots of other nonsense. There isn't really a specific character who speaks of all three enemies, so would it be all right if, just for the purposes of the template, I uploaded the image of the three emblems? I'm not to sure how a template would work out in any other style than the one above, but I really would feel better if there was an image of all three emblems, since the image there is of a Heartless, the line I borrowed from Yen Sid refers to a Nobody, and Unversed would be included in this template's usage... I'm probably speaking nonsense or seeing an unnecessary problem, but it's better to get this over with now than later. - Eternal  Nothingness  XIII  16:39, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

DoorToNothing's Draft
Wait, that template seems to be awfully large to use for this purpose. We're going to putting this on large articles often, ones as long as Sora, Riku, and Xemnas. We do not want to cause the same problem that several maintenance template once caused before, in which the templates cause the reader to not be unable to see any more of the article itself than just the infobox initially, if anything. I have created drafts of two templates; the first is to be used on the mainspace article, and the latter is to be used on the gallery page. I have included no image because this does not need to be anything more than a short and simple message to establish that there are more images than presented on the article, or that the page is a gallery of a certain article. We don't even need to put in any inputs, it automatically will use the page's name to create the link.

I have placed these on Sora and Gallery:Sora as examples. I hope that these fit the needs that you seek in the templates to be used in conjunction with the new galleryspace, KrytenKoro. Be sure to leave feedback! -- 20:02, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

As most of the templates have image why don't we add one of Namine's draws?--Xabryn 20:36, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * The whole point was not to use an image, so that we don't have an awkward and possibly large image on the top of an article that may cover up the actual article. -- 20:37, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * At the top of Sora, sure, it needs to be small. But at the top of the gallery pages, this will be the only template.
 * I think the Three emblems image that Shard has, or anything by Namine, would be appropriate for this, if you want my opinion. Glorious  CHAOS!  00:27, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Shazam~! How is that? -- 00:37, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

LV Up
Could you take a look at this version of the Level Up article? I'm planning to use it to consolidate all the level-related panels. (Also, if possible, could you check your game to see which LV Tripler is a clear bonus for which mission? The wikiwiki and Bradygames disagree.) --  Neumannz ,  The Dark Falcon  05:20, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Keychains and Keyblades
Like this? http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5977/xbladekeychain.png The keychains may be a problem for the BBS keyblades because they are really tiny. While ingame I tried to zoom near them, but that seems not be possible. Everytime the camera get's too close to the character, the view "jumps" to the other side of the character in normal distance. I have a suggestion/request about the BBS keyblade infobox. Would it be possible to add an gallery tab like in the new enemy template, so it can display all three different versions of the keyblade (yes, they are not that different, but nonetheless it would be incomplete without them).--ShardofTruth 22:53, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep. Just upload it over the current image. Glorious  CHAOS!  23:43, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Re: Gallery. I can try, but it'll be somewhat messy looking. Glorious  CHAOS!  23:43, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Protection
Erm, I'm sorry if I'm intruding, but why was Aqua protected?
 * People kept putting Willa Holland up as the VA. Glorious  CHAOS!  00:26, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh, it turns out that Willa Holland is the voice for Aqua.

LOOK HERE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willa_Holland#Filmography AND http://www.kingdomheartsunion.com/news/kh-birth-by-sleep-voice-actors-revealed-aqua-master-xehanort-and-more--910.html!

I'm not seeing an official source on either of those. If you can provide a statement from Willa Holland/her agent saying "I am going to be voicing Aqua in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep", or something along those lines, that's an acceptable source.20:13, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Dammit Janet!
We have a serious vandal! He has been given 4 warnings and refuses to listen! THIS USER refuses to stop vandalizing the wiki. Please deal with this swiftly and carefully.

New vandal with the maturity of a four year old. Block please?-- Lapis  Scarab   20:42, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Why delete?
Just a question, why delete the battle quotes from Xigbar and Saix? Not that I'm upset or anything, I'm more... worried. You see someone else added them today (I just improved them) but everytime that happens they always seem to be taken down, so now I'm worried I did something wrong. So, once again, why remove the quotes?Be a good boy now! 00:55, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * As has been discussed before, as a section, "Battle Quotes" is useless. It always ends up as a repository for the character's various grunts. However, if one of the quotes is particularly illustrative of the character, it should be included in the character's regular Quotes section. Glorious  CHAOS!  19:40, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Design Table

 * Eeehhh...I think the design especially is something that should be covered in prose. It's just so irregular, sometimes with no real design for a part, sometimes with overarching themes that cover multiple parts or multiple themes covered by one part, that any standard format wouldn't be very applicable. Glorious  CHAOS!  19:43, May 30, 2010 (UTC)