Forum:New Heartless-enemy template

Template:Heartless/Draft2: Viewable here.

Concerns (not glitches):

If I misinterpreted the consensus, please tell me.
 * 1) Do we want to keep these colors?
 * 2) Decision: Yes
 * 3) Right now, I think the infobox stretches to the needed width. Do we want to decide on a fixed width for the template or the images?
 * 4) Decision: Width is now fixed at 350px.
 * 5) This template currently has all information, except for "reactions" and "KH2 boss victory bonuses", that any non-Gummi enemy or boss in the games has, and it is possible to use it as a general "Enemy" template. In its current state, the only thing that would need to be changed to be widely applicable is the name of the template. Do we want to do so?
 * 6) Decision: Copy code and modify for other enemies.
 * 7) Do we want the template to display the games an enemy appears in, or is that acceptably redundant to the tabs themselves?
 * 8) Decision: It is redundant.
 * 9) Do we want the templates to put enemies in stat-ranking categories?
 * 10) How do we want to handle item drops, especially for orbs (HP, MP, moogle, munny)? Do we want to create quick use image templates for the various orb types, like the guides use? Do we want item drops to be handled somewhere else on the page?
 * 11) For CoM, do we care about Moogle Points?
 * 12) Decision: Yes
 * 13) For CoM, is Aero an elemental attack, or is it a "Special" attack? Same with Gravity and Stop - I've grouped them together with "Other", is that correct?
 * 14) For CoM, do we want to assume that enemies on a certain RR floor have the same stats as the respective SS floor? Do we want to include the applicable stats, then, for both RR and SS floors, using only the 13 floors?
 * 15) Decision: Ignore R/R floors.
 * 16) For KH2, do we want to ignore Coliseum appearances, as they have a greatly different stat setup than in normal appearances (No EXP, no drops, etc.)?
 * 17) Does anyone at all want the journal infobox as a tab here?
 * 18) Decision: Remove Journal tab.

Discussion
--Hecko X 06:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, they can always be changed at a later point in time.
 * 1) Fixed, and it needs to be slightly slimmer than it is now.
 * 2) Why not just use if protocols, like the current one does? That way, the don't appear unless data is added in those sections when the template is actively used.
 * 3) If we use tabs, let's just stick with the tabs, no need to put it in the template as well then.
 * No.
 * 1) Do we really care about the orbs, other than munny?
 * 2) I'll consider this for a later time.
 * 3) They are non-elemental, as I recall.
 * 4) No comment.
 * 5) Why not just have a coliseum tab?
 * No, the journal info will go in the respective game tabs.

When will you have these templates uploaded?Winxfan1 14:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

They are? Cool. I'll have to check them out.Winxfan1 11:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

I worked on the Kingdom Hearts version of the Shadow Heartless Template. What happened to the other two? Winxfan1 18:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

Oh. Sorry. Anyway, the Shadow also appeared in more than just world 7-10 in Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories. They appeared on the floors before and after it. And in Kingdom Hearts 2 they sometimes drop Potions and Dark Shards. Just some info you would like to know.Winxfan1 19:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

Hey you guys, I hate to be a burden but most of the boss templates aren't showing up. Any reason why?Winxfan1 23:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
 * They are being updated like the Heartless ones are. Glorious  CHAOS!  02:45, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh. Well that explains it. When do you think it'll be done?Winxfan1 11:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

Hello everyone. I would like to ask if information on the Heartless will be updated, now that 358/2 Days (Japan) is out. For instance, the 'Darkside' in Beast's Castle is actually named 'Dark Follower' in the Enemy Records of the game. Thank you for the attention!! Flashtrigger 12:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Who keeps removing my info from the Chain of Memories and Kingdom Hearts II templates? ANd whoever provided the fully detailed info for the Air Pirate should do so for the trest of the Heartless pages.Winxfan1 15:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
 * I am, because you're adding either false information (the moogle points), or adding cells which shouldn't be there (for example, all 13 floors for CoM templates).
 * If you do not have the guides for the games, you should not be modifying the templates at all. Please stop. Glorious  CHAOS!  00:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

1. I thought Moogle Points meant the amount of Moogle Points you can get from selling the Enemy Cards at Moogle Shops.

2. In Chain of Memories Some Heartless like Gargoyles are limited to floors 2-6. Others are on every floor like Shadows. It annoyed me that all the CoM templates only displayed floors 7-10 while it is known that Heaterless appeared in more than those floors.

3. All I know is how much experience you earn for beating a Heartless in Kingdom Hearts 2. The only one I didn't have to do was Air Pirate. Whoever did that did a great job. Who did it anyway?Winxfan1 01:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1