Talk:Avatar Menu/Archive 1

What is this?
¿What is this? --Lukethehedgehog 13:17, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

It's a list of Avatar parts for Kingdom Hearts Re:coded. In case you didn't know, you can make avatars in Kingdom hearts Re:coded and use it for online interactions. 13:25, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Images




...why doesn't someone just ask Shard or IZerox? 22:23, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope it's possible to get the images directly out of the game files, that would be a lot less work. But browsing through the game files is not very easy: meaningless names, decrypting and unpacking every single file, problems with viewing the result. If everything goes well I should have some results this weekend. --ShardofTruth 21:33, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I found them and it's still a nightmare because every single picture is packed like three times and is splitted in three different pallets (color, graphic and cell) which has to be combinend and after all that still to be cutted.
 * Before I'm going to upload all this images, I have two questions:
 * Is the order, how the items are listed here the same, as the one in the Ultimania?
 * Should there be a standard image size (e.g. 64x64 px) because some images are really small. --ShardofTruth 11:25, January 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I believe so, but I can check the image names after you upload them if you want.
 * Yes, a standard size would be good. I think Warrior of Light is the tallest, off the top of my head. 15:18, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay here the deal: I will make two version of every image. One that can displayed here in some sort of gallery without a problem and one where every image has the same size, so it's actually possible to play the whole dress up thing without the game. Maybe we could implement the second version in some sort of a very difficult tabber, but I don't think Wikia can do overlaying of images. --ShardofTruth 16:26, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

What do we want the background to look like? I was think black or just floating in the air. Not a white background. The floating in the air wouldn't have a white background if you put the image over the cover. Like File:DaysNamine.png
 * No. No no no no no. Transparent backgrounds. 19:21, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought. Anyway, I have saved those images onto my flash drive so I will be able to cut them from the pictures.
 * Well I manage to get 30 images so far so from the Ultimaina and the sizes for them are not that small. hmm UnknownChaser 20:11, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * We don't want the ultimania images, though, since the gamerips will be much higher quality. 20:53, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Avatars
...this is going to be difficult... 22:50, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
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Parts
Scars,Etc.

Snooty Stache - PumpkNRydr Find the Queen of Hearts 3 times.

Hair

French Twist: Silver - PumpkNRyder Twisty floor Don't Jump too much!

Pageboy: Gold - 10derMemry Find the Avatar's Buddy

Fuu's Hair - One♪Wonder Sparkly Floor Defeat the Heartless

???

Formal Dress - PumpkNRyder Twisty Floor Don't Jump too much!

Blizzara Lv.4 - BoyNexDoor Find Queen Minnie 1 time.

Ice Sweep - One♪Wonder Find Cid 1 time.

Items

Shadow Dawg Buddy - 10derMemry Breezy Floor Healing is for noobs

Sports Bag - BoyNexDoor Bumby Floor Bash as many Blox as you can!

Strategy: Go to Nintendo Channel, DS demo downloads, and activate tag mode as the demo (any demo will do, the idea is that the Wii is pretending to be a DS so it can transfer demo's) is transmitting. You should recieve scratch card and sector floor, exit, rinse and repeat until you have 100 floors.

Note for the message above
Please add to this! When we have our images we will post these.

Info Table
So the 908 images are ready and I would like to upload one part type after another. But there are still some questions regarding the table. Some but not all Japanese names can be found here. Anyway I will always compare to the Ultimania scan, where the parts have the same order as found in the game. There are two columns though, I can't make any sense of. The "genre" (ジｬンル) and the one after that. What do they describe and is it important? Also I don't think we won't need to fill out some info on obtaining the pieces, because all but 8 of them are given by chance, with the first avatar has some connection to the player's name as far as I understand.

The non random parts are:
 * King Mickey's Hair - Get 2 trophies
 * King Mickey A's Shoes - Get 5 trophies
 * King Mickey A Outfit - Get 8 trophies
 * King Mickey's Tail - Get 12 trophies
 * King Mickey's Gloves - Get 16 trophies
 * King Mickey B's Shoes - Get 20 trophies
 * King Mickey B Outfit - Get 25 trophies
 * King Mickey Ears - Get 30 trophies

That's an example of what it could look like:

Buddies
Without the number this will get very confusing, so I will also put them in the filenames (like "Buddy-9-Bat Buddy XIII.png"). The colored background is needed because some parts are nearly pure white and wouldn't be recognized on the normal background. Oh, another thing: All Avatar parts are more pixelated than their mobile counterparts and I won't smooth any edge because that would hurt the art style.

So what do you think?--ShardofTruth 22:38, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've also been getting King Mickey A parts for 2, 5, 8, and 12 trophies.
 * If there's not an official description like with the Mobile items, then it probably isn't worth it to have the description column. Would it be easier on you to use this template? Or, would it do better to just have thin tables (2 columns, number+name and image), arranged in extratabular columns?
 * As for obtaining, I think that it would be best to just cover the few definite ones in prose, and summarize how to get all the others.
 * The file naming sounds fine. Don't worry about adding the nihongo to the table, unless you can do it easily - I'll clean up anything left behind.
 * Also, for the sake of my own sanity, please tell me that there is a Trickmaster costume somewhere. I'm going to have to hurt Nomura if he left the one direct coded/Mobile link out of the coded/Mobile mashup. 00:52, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to inform you that your sanity is saved. Nomura was kindly enough to put in the costume ingame^^
 * I used the Mobile template to create something like this:


 * This look really neat but the problem are the names that will strech every box to a different size which will look not so good if it's done 908 times on one page.
 * I'm not really sure what you mean with extratabular columns, something like this?

--ShardofTruth 22:41, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

I meant having thin tables surrounded by the col-start, col-break, col-end tags. 00:06, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, that doesn't like that great too.

But I suck at making tables, maybe you could put some good coding in there. --ShardofTruth 22:49, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

The problem there is that the height of the columns would have to be made constant. We could either have multiple blank lines in one of the text cells (suggest number), or if you have created the images with constant backgrounds, that would work too. 20:19, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Adding nihongo
Can we basically just take the nihongo straight from the Ultimania? -- 21:21, 10 February 2011 (EST)
 * Go ahead. I tried to put as much as I could on there in my last edit (before the anon started adding the dubs). 21:30, 10 February 2011 (EST)

Kryten, can you get the nihongo for the Geisha wig? -- 01:04, 11 February 2011 (EST)

I could swear I already had, but it is 和装カツラ (Wasou Katsura - Japanese Wig). 12:14, 17 February 2011 (EST)


 * You sure? The second kanji looks different... -- 15:50, 7 March 2011 (EST)

Ensembles
It should be mentioned that Ensembles are merely shortcuts to set of parts, and not something you actually obtain through play. 12:12, 17 February 2011 (EST)

How to obtain
Can someone please add an "how to obtain" thing to tell people how to unlock them?  ~Arch light 10:45, February 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * You start off with several parts (which?) by default.
 * You get an Avatar Part for clearing the challenge on the non-decim floors of the Avatar Sector. Initially, you get any parts the avatar has that you do not. Once you get all of their parts, the reward becomes random.
 * You can get Avatar Parts for clearing the Character Hunts on Scratch Cards (check; I've never gotten them from Bonus Hunts). This part is totally random, and you may already have it.
 * You get the King Mickey A and King Mickey B pieces by collecting trophies. (2, 5, 8, 12, 16, 20, 25, 30, I think)

That's it, right? 14:49, 24 February 2011 (EST)

Avatar Sector
I didn't keep track of which ones dropped which parts, so it would be somewhat difficult to recreate these, but there are 50 default avatars, as shown here. The floor challenge, number of trophies (look especially at the Organization trophy amounts), name, and quote are all references to the avatar. The last nine (first nine in the album) and UrTrueSelf were the ones that were generated randomly (as you can tell by them all having Goofy's mouth for some reason), and were obtained through long waiting, not the Wii trick. 00:20, 16 February 2011 (EST)


 * Randomized avatars (trophy, challenge, and floor are random also):
 * UrTrueSelf: Reunited at last, eh?
 * AlwaysLTTP: And often not invited...
 * The 1nk1ing: Did I jog your memory?
 * UsualNon¢s: Penny for yer thoughts?
 * UR<3sDzire: And now, I can be yours.
 * DistantVOX: HELLO? (OH-Oh-oh...)
 * Don'tASCII: It's a SCSI story anyway.
 * BigBrudda: 'Sup, bro? Need a hand?
 * TwixtTween: Always stuck in da middle.
 * Could_B_U: See the resemblance?
 * The""One: I dunno why you "" me.
 * ORLY_YARLY: Will my life have meaning?
 * 10derMemry: It's great to be a kid.
 * A1ternateU: Always just a step away...
 * NotTe11ing: ...Unless you ask nicely.
 * FlyOnDWall: The real bug in this tale!
 * Masker8dr: No one knows my REAL name.
 * No1UKnow: So let's keep it that way.
 * LivNLegacy: Oh. You're not gone yet?
 * ∞Lives: I totally 1-upped you.
 * Miracle2Go: May I take your order?
 * (>_<)/RAGE: Back off! I'm angsty!
 * PureRandom: Nothin' to see, folks!
 * Sdrawkcab: Ereh sedoc terces on!
 * U.Know.Who: Don't pretend you don't.
 * UnsungHero: No one ever sings for me.
 * P00rPuppet: Always being strung along.
 * UrPastLife: You're me but I ain't you.
 * Pure^_^Joy: With plenty to go around.
 * Omigoddess: I'm, like, a divine ditz!
 * ROFLCopter: Hey, do you LOLerskate?
 * MeIfIWereU: Chew on that. Deep, huh?
 * WhatUWere: No escaping your past!
 * PassNDream: Enjoy me while I last.
 * TheOne4U: U is the best letter EVER.
 * Sh8pShiftR: I'm really a triangle.
 * Un4Gettabl: It's my memorable face.
 * $$$Grubber: Munny is mah hunny.
 * HeyIKnowU: Long time no see!
 * 1WhoGetsIt: Shh! No more words.
 * 2Good2BTru: And too true to be good.
 * ★fromAfar: SALUTATIONS, EARTHLING.
 * LongLostM8: Err, formerly lost...
 * Dude!ItsMe: Y'know? From the thing?
 * A♭OutLie: Don't believe a word o' me!
 * OozinCharm: Grab a mop. OC's in town!
 * ShadyNomad: I don't like the sun, OK?
 * TimeTravlR: The 21st century? Retro!
 * TuffCookie: Known fears: Milk-dunking.


 * GameFaqs (unconfirmed, screenshots needed before posting)
 * Ninja(shh): You did not see me.

If anyone gets any others, please add them to this list, with the name, quote, and a screenshot for evidence. 11:39, 16 February 2011 (EST)

Make sure to mention the 10th-floor challenges and Data-Riku. 11:48, 16 February 2011 (EST)

We will also need to list enemies, and it might be worth it to call out which enemy-types are bugged for the various floors.

Rare Scratch Card
Does somebody know why Scratch Cards with the worlds "Dive to Heart", "100 Acre Wood", "Disney Town" or "Hollow Bastion" are considered rare? I can't remember if the prizes were more special than the ones of the normal cards. --ShardofTruth 11:01, 28 February 2011 (EST)
 * I've only gotten 100 Acre Wood once, and none of the others, so I can't really say too much (are you sure it's Disney Town?), but it didn't have any special cards on it at all, and the prizes were pretty bleh. 13:19, 28 February 2011 (EST)
 * Here is a overview of the background arts and a collection of the persons I encountered here:
 * http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9348/allscratchcards.png
 * Sadly I had Olympus Coliseum only one time and somehow forgot to get a better image. By the way, itsn't it strange that although 100 Acre Wood is declared a rare Scratch Card by the game it doesn't have the rare logo? --ShardofTruth 16:53, 28 February 2011 (EST)
 * That's...awesome! How the hell do you get those?! Also, it looks like it renamed the ice creams, for whatever reason. 17:26, 28 February 2011 (EST)

Chestnut ice cream (credit Shard): http://img34.imageshack.us/i/chestnuticecream.png/

Enemy gallery

 * Regular enemies
 * Floor: Light - Mid - Heavy
 * 0s: Shadow - Soldier - Large Body
 * 10s: Red Nocturne - Blue Rhapsody - Large Body
 * 20s: Bandit - Air Soldier - Fat Bandit
 * 30s: Bandit - Darkball - Invisible
 * 40s: Blue Rhapsody - Soldier - Defender
 * 50s: Bandit - Darkball - Large Body
 * 60s: Red Nocturne - Air Soldier - Angel Star
 * 70s: Blue Rhapsody - Air Soldier - Invisible
 * 80s: Bandit - Wizard - Wyvern
 * 90s: Bandit - Wizard - Invisible
 * 10: bugged Shadows
 * 20: bugged Core Blox
 * 30: bugged Bandits
 * 40: bugged Invisible, Shadows
 * 50: bugged Core Blox
 * 60: bugged Blox Bug
 * 70: bugged Shadows
 * 80: bugged Wyverns (mid and heavy), Bandits, Wyverns
 * 90: bugged Core Bloxes
 * 100: Data-Riku

total enemy list:
 * Shadow, Soldier, Large Body, Red Nocturne, Blue Rhapsody, Bandit, Air Soldier, Fat Bandit, Darkball, Invisible, Defender, Angel Star, Wizard, Wyvern, Core Blox, Blox Bug, Data-Riku

total bugged list:
 * Soldier, Large Body, Blue Rhapsody, Air Soldier, Fat Bandit, Darkball, Invisible, Defender, Angel Star, Wizard, Wyvern
 * Shadow, Core Blox, Bandit, Invisible, Blox Bug, Wyvern, Data-Riku