Talk:Kairi

Kairi
Yo, Akamoron here. I felt a need to start a discussion on Kairi. So here are a few topics...

Princess?
If Kiari was the princess of Radiant Garden, wouldn't that make her Ansem the wise's daughter? or Gradaughter?

You don't have to be an actural princess to be a er... princess, take alice for example.  Myself 123  23:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, look at Wendy. No royal blood mentioned, and she gets mistaken for a princess of heart. If she were a actual princess, not princess of heart the other kind, they would say so or call her " Princess Wendy ".--PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart 17:33, 2 May 2009 (UTC) if you kidnaped the kings daughter and sent her away super man style, than i dont think you would want to actually want to leave explicit written evidance that you did that. --Foutlet 01:41, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

SoraXKairi?
Though there are many scenes where Sora and Kairi show that they really care for eachother (as in more than 'just friends'). They never really admitted it, well...openly anyway. When are they going to kiss or do something; c'mon Square, throw us a bone!
 * Akamoron 21:14, 22 June 2008.

I know i feel the same way,every SoraXkairi fan is waiting since kingdom hearts 1

Exactly! I really want something to happen. It's driving me nuts! Do you think something will eventually happen?

I HOPE something happens. Oh yessssssss, I can just picture Sora kissing Kairi right now. Teehee. :D Troisnyxetienne 15:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well...that's fucking creepy. 69.207.145.217 03:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I hope they kiss, hey Square Enix and Disney, Ya better make them kiss if you ever read this stuff, you won't lose fans, ya'll gain 'em.--PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart 17:26, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

@PrincessAndie: There may be a reason Sora and Kairi haven't gone further with this, you know. Ever consider what the rating on this game series, which has Disney characters out the wazoo, would be if these two ended up having a scene together? They may be trying to keep that consistent so the younger-end players can see the 'entire' series instead of being restricted by parents or the law. Still, we can hope. 67.43.20.244 20:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

The age rating on the Final Fantasy series, if I'm not mistaken, is higher than the age rating on the Kingdom Hearts series. As for the Disney movies, they may be intended for kids, but I've seen stuff that has the joke more intended for adult humor. For example, ever see Aladdin and the King of Thieves? And I quote from Genie looking like a fat girl popping out of a triple decker cake: "It's a bachelor party, big boy!" Keyblader 22:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I think they should kiss! In Hannah Montana and stuff when she was 15 she was toungin almost ever boy that she saw!!! I think that's stupid and you're right! Only teens really play the game! Ninabean822

Yeah i know ur right...but...the paopu fruit is a symbol of lovers on their world...and when they both saw the picture they both knew they liked each other. (srry the way i said it kinda sounds like im not making any sense). User:Ninabean822

I'm guessing that paupou fruit is an aphrodisiac. the only thing that cloud and sephiroth shared togeather were stem Jenova cells--Foutlet 19:39, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Random-Gent: Yeah, due to the rating stuff and that the games aren't really about romance, I won't expect a kiss anytime soon.............But, seeing as a kiss would piss of the Sora/Riku shipping LOSER fangirls, I certainly WISH it would happen.

kairi's home
how is radiant garden her true home???


 * Zack, please don't call other editors/visitors idiots. For all you know, this person actually hasn't played or finished the first game, or is younger and doesn't understand some parts of the plot.

(Exception to the idiot rule: vandals and bots.)BebopKate 18:42, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Kairi's Arrival at Destiny Islands
But according to "Ansem" (Xehanort) He sent a "Special Girl" To Find the keyblade Ansem Reports

It's simple xNaminex's THEORY is wrong

My apologies

where the hell in director's secret report 13 say that

okay xNaminex's theory was that the "Real" Ansem and king mickey sent kairi to destiny islands to keep her safe, whereas Xehanort's reports state that he sent "on the ocean of worlds" to find the keybearer (and presumably kill him/convert him)

should i define "Convert" for you

I'm joining the side of xNaminex, I think her theory could have happened.--PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart 17:28, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

despite all (official) Evidence to the contrary?

Okay xNaminex had a good theory.Wrong,but a step in the right direction.But this?This is getting ridiculous. I have a question when and how did Kairi get to the Destiny Islands--Firaga44 01:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Well in the ansem report he refers to where he sends her as the "ocean of other worlds".Nomura also uses a similar wording when mentiong space as the "the sea of outer space" I forgot where though.SO it's likely that she was placed in a gummi ship and landed at destiny islands kinda like superman.As to when it's probably in the BBS timeframe.--74.210.24.180 05:21, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

is the granny dead
ok is kairis granny is dead i mean what if she was aqua who fell in a time hole and went back 10 yeaars before birth by sleep and is kairi's granny--Joekeybladeaura 16:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * WTF. That's farfetched. She was merely a character to tell a story, and has no importance whatsoever. (At least so far) --Zack fair 007 16:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Kairi's grandmother probably became a heartless seeing how when sora and company arrive it's overrun by them.--74.210.24.180 03:32, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Kairi was pretty young in that memory, and that grandma (excuse me if this sounds rude) didn't look like much more than skin and bones. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she had gone either way by now. Whether or not she is alive, however, you can bet your ass that Kairi will do everything she can to try and find her the minute she sets foot in Radiant Garden should the subject even be hinted at. Keyblader 02:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Radiant Garden
when do they say or something tht kairi's from radiant garden????

In the memory she shows to Sora, she is seen as a little girl listening to her grandma's stories in the library of Hollow Bastion's castle. Hollow Bastion was later renamed Radiant Garden, a name it takes on after your second visit to Space Paranoids. Keyblader 00:23, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

It's also mentioned by ansem the wise in one of the secret ansem reports.--74.210.24.180 05:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Her Age In KH2
You may recall that Sora was a head shorter than Goofy in KH1. in KH2, he is a head taller than Goofy. Compare Kairi's height in KH1 to Sora's height in KH1. Now compare Kairi's height in KH2 to Sora's height in KH2. From there, you can gain a rough estimate of the difference in Kairi's height. As for age, that should be easy to determine, considering that only one year passed between KH1 and KH2 (or to be more specific, the first 358 days of Roxas' existance, plus the 6 days that he spent in the virtual Twilight Town; 364 days in total, give or take a few hours). Xeno the Hedgehog 20:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Or the fact that they can use magic, glide around, have feet the size of their heads, turn into heartless, USE MAGIC, and be slashed by monster talons and never show any signs of permanant damage. It's a videogame people!

Don't forget how everytime you push a team member off the TreeHouse they somehow reappear right behind you.-- 12:56, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Wow just wow your gonna apply the laws of physics to a video game?LOL.Dude kh went against so many laws of physics its illegal to play if you work with the laws of pyshics.The fact there is magic,heartless,nobodies,ability to glide run up walls run along them get hit by huge monster talons and still live tells you kh breaks it all.Its a VIDEOGAME!You cant apply laws of pyhsics to GAMES!Thats like trying jump off a 100 foot cliff into a pile of rocks and survive.Its IMPOSSIBLE!Everyone has given many facts that show Kh cannot apply to the law of pyshics. 23:58, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

About that last triva sentence...
Is that really appropriate on a informational site for a E rated game?


 * Hellz no! If you see it again please delete it, it's vandalism. Thanks for noticing ^^ -- 06:00, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * sigh* how many times will we have to delete that? — Ghost boy 3000 09:36, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

What? Does that happen often

I'm not the one who's put any of that there but don't Blame the messanger, Blame square for rendering it (and making that dress so dang short.)

What was there in the Trivia?Zyrax 23:22, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Kairi saving Sora's Heartless
Do you remeber Kairi save Sora's Heartless and restore him to his orginal form with a bright flash of light? That light was probably Kairi's Body and Soul transfering to Sora. Since Sora's missing body and soul that time was Roxas. So Sora probably been using Kairi's body and soul in KHI to KHCOM. So what do you think about the theory? Cococrash11

Kairi's english voice actor
I heard Kairi's english voice actor is Hayden Panettiere so why the heck her en-voice actor in KHRECOM and KH358 is Alyson Stoner? Whats wrong with them? Cococrash11
 * "Their problem" is Hayden Panettiere is a pretty popular physical actor as well.—Urutapu 08:15, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah but what does physical actor had to do with Hayden Panettiere not english voice act in KH:COM and KH:358? Cococrash11
 * She was busy? ಠ_ಠ —Urutapu 11:09, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Oh. Cococrash11

Kairi's possible true Nobody
If you've read Talk:Xion; Xion's possible future apearnce. If Xion happen to become Kairi‘s nobody she will have 2 nobodies and they are Xion and Namine. I know that doesn’t make anysense Kairi having 2 nobodies. But what if after Xion was revived and have her own body, Xion and Namine combine together to become Kairi's true nobody that looks like Aqua that ends with an anagram of Kairi with an X. I mean Sora‘s nobody Roxas looks exactly like Ventus I mean Kairi and Aqua are kind of similar they both had the same personality and make sea shells lucky charm for their friends. Its just a theory. Cococrash11
 * OK, you are kind of insane, and this is kind of a fanfic. There are just so many things wrong with it.Adam 148 13:57, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

You don't have to be a jerk about it --Cococrash11 02:06, January 27, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11

Dead Fantasy
If you guys want videos to Dead Fantasy. I know where to get them. YouTube and IGN have them.-- 22:48, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Wait, what?
'During the events that take place in the World That Never Was, Riku hands her a Keyblade crafted from his memories of Destiny Islands, and allows her to wield it so that she may combat the Heartless.'

When did this happen? Is there any evidence to back this up? I don't remember anywhere where it says Kairi's keyblade was crafted from Riku's memories of Destiny Islands. Adam 148 10:50, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

the ultimate plot twist topic irrellevent nevermind alredy discused
this is about as accurate as a conspiracy therory and is probobly wrong. since all the other princesses,(barring alice) are princessess, what if kairi was the daughter of ansem the wise when she was on holow bastion?--Foutlet 19:31, December 10, 2009 (UTC) HAHA disregard that i suck male genitalia, could an admin please deleet this ridiulous mistake i made? sory about that.--Foutlet 01:45, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * You're...able to do it yourself...—Urutapu 08:45, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Kairi tomboyish?
All of the users here seem to be very reasonable about their opinions and my sister and I are in a really dumb argument about rather Kairi is a "tomboy" or not. And even though it says so on her page, I wanted to see opinions of everyone here. Thanks. :)

Random-Gent: In the KH Character Report book volume 1, Nomura himself said Kairi WAS a tomboy in the first KH and, though less of one in KH2, still had some qualities of one.

New info (BBS spoilers)
-- Aqua lays a spell on Kairi’s pendant. Is it to protect her from the forces of darkness?

Nomura: Because of that pendant Kairi was sent to Destiny Island.

-- So Kairi going to Destiny Island wasn’t just an accident.

Nomura: What we wanted to show in the story this time was that “fate is inevitable”. Someday Kairi would go to a place where she would be protected by a hero of light. from KHInsiderXoaks 04:11, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Necklace Charm = Keyblade Wielding
It's probably stupid to think of it this way, but I get the feeling part of Kairi's ability to wield the Keyblade comes from the protection spell Aqua put on her necklace. --Charmed-Jay 13:04, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Dead Fantasy Appearance
Yeah, it sucks dosn't it. Dumb policy in my opinion.--Trainalf 21:16, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yes it does--Xabryn 23:53, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

The Final Fantasy,Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden wikis all have references to Dead Fantasy (FF and DOA actually have articles on it, being the "hosts" with the KH and NG characters as "guests".) this is the only Fan-Wiki without references to this Mega-Awesome series that has a character (characters if Namine does appear) in it. I know we have a policy, but couldn't someone take vote to make an exception? I mean, could the mods and administrators and Users all watch the series and take a vote?204.211.185.107 13:08, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

All I think we need is a brief reference to her appearance and links to the Final Fantasy Wiki's page and/or the videos.It shouldn't be to bad if we keep it in the trivia section.204.211.185.107 13:13, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * The FF wiki also includes Rinoa's DF weapons and her fanart weapons on their "list of FF8 weapons" page, a clear sign that something fundamental has gone wrong. This is NOT a fanfiction encyclopedia - there is khfanon.wikia.com for that. Glorious  CHAOS!  22:15, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

We should also do some research on every fanfic site and look for other extremely important details we are missing out on. It's all very relevant so keep up the good work guys.--ΧƳƵach. 02:07, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

You really expect us to track down every single KH-related fanfic on the internet? Fan works aren't at all relevant.02:10, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Swing and a miss!--ΧƳƵach. 02:12, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Final Fnatays wiki is gotten terrible because they allow ANYTHING thats related to it on there. I don't care about if Yugioh Abridge mentioned Cloud or Sephiroth,its not Wiki related. Thats why it shouldn't be mentioned here too. Naruto195 18:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Aqua's battle stance
I was watching a few KH vids last night and when I saw the one where Riku gave Kairi a keyblade then i noticed that Kairi had the same or at least similar battle stance to aqua's so i was thinking, should we mention it in the article?--Xabryn 01:53, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Really?
"At the end of Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, she returns her Lucky Charm to Sora and asks him to hurry back from his quest to find Terra, Aqua and Ventus."

Is this true? --Buckle Bruiser 20:34, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Not the part about Aqua, Terra, and Ventus, it isn't that specific, but yes, in the secret ending video she gives him her lucky charm again and he prepares to leave on another quest of some kind.20:37, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I saw Blank Points and the T,A&V part not so much. -- I'll  Crush  You!  20:39, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

List of Encounters
This is just a list of those who've encountered Kairi, and below is vice versa, or simply those who know of her existence.


 * Those who encountered Kairi
 * 1) Sora
 * 2) Riku
 * 3) Selphie
 * 4) Wakka
 * 5) Tidus
 * 6) Donald
 * 7) Goofy
 * 8) Leon
 * 9) Yuffie
 * 10) Aerith
 * 11) Pluto
 * 12) Mickey
 * 13) Ansem the Wise
 * 14) Ansem, the Seeker of Darkness
 * 15) Aqua
 * 16) Naminé
 * 17) Roxas
 * 18) Maleficent
 * 19) Xemnas
 * 20) Saïx
 * 21) Axel
 * 22) Xigbar
 * 23) Luxord
 * 24) Snow White
 * 25) Cinderella
 * 26) Beast
 * 27) Belle
 * 28) Alice
 * 29) Wendy
 * 30) Jasmine
 * 31) Aurora
 * 32) Captain Hook
 * 33) Smee
 * 34) Olette
 * 35) Pence
 * 36) Hayner
 * 37) Jiminy Cricket


 * Encountered by Kairi
 * 1) Sora
 * 2) Riku
 * 3) Selphie
 * 4) Wakka
 * 5) Tidus

Kingdom Hearts
 * 1) Donald
 * 2) Goofy
 * 3) Leon
 * 4) Yuffie
 * 5) Aerith
 * 6) Ansem, the Seeker of Darkness
 * 7) Maleficent
 * 8) Pluto
 * 9) Ansem the Wise
 * 10) Snow White
 * 11) Cinderella
 * 12) Beast
 * 13) Belle
 * 14) Alice
 * 15) Wendy
 * 16) Jasmine
 * 17) Aurora
 * 18) Captain Hook
 * 19) Smee
 * 20) Jiminy Cricket
 * Cid
 * 1) Cloud
 * 2) Pongo
 * 3) Perdita
 * 4) Merlin
 * 5) Aqua
 * 6) Mickey
 * 7) Naminé
 * 8) Roxas
 * 9) Xemnas
 * 10) Saïx
 * 11) Axel
 * 12) Xigbar
 * 13) Luxord
 * 14) Olette
 * 15) Pence
 * 16) Hayner

(more to come)


 * Know of Kairi, but never met her
 * 1) Xion

Questions About Kairi...
What is Kairi's last name?? And is it known who her parents are?? I have heard a fan theory about her father being Ansem The Wise, but I don't know. Help?? 03:48, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * We don't know her last name or who her parents are. Fan theories are NOT canon, however I'll admit, it'd make some sense for her to be connected to Ansem, why else would she live in the castle? --Evnyofdeath 16:59, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

I don't remember that scene?
Here it says about a scene in the end of Birth by Sleep with Kairi picking flowers, but I don't remember that scene. Where can I find it?187.65.67.149 01:09, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Try the final credits. -- 01:12, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Sora and Kairi Meet
In this revision of the page http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kairi&diff=next&oldid=64862, a scene is mentioned where Sora finds Kairi washed up on the shore. However, I checked the video game transcripts and found no such scene. Furthermore, the edit was made by an unregistered user. Should that part of the article be edited out? --Sir Phil Mirrory, Toa of Mirrors, Founder of the Munchkin Wiki 02:35, January 26, 2011 (UTC) Also, in the revision of the page at http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kairi&diff=prev&oldid=85559, when Guardian Soul revised the Combat section to clarify that it was Riku's keyblade Kairi wielded, not her own, he also said that it was crafted from Riku's memories of Destiny Islands. Should that be rectified to state that the keyblade originated from the reoccurence of his Way to the Dawn? --Sir Phil Mirrory, Toa of Mirrors, Founder of the Munchkin Wiki 02:19, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Keyblade Inheritance
Wait, so if she touched Aqua's keyblade and they accidentally preformed a Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony, does that mean she can summon a keyblade on her own? I know she was able to wield Riku's Destiny's Embrace, but shouldn't she be able to summon a keyblade, not just wield it?

Two Kairis.
Should the 2 Kairi glitch from BBS be mentioned? -- Look at me...  Look at me!   Do I have gum in my teeth?  08:27, 12 February 2011 (EST)
 * Probably not. 14:04, 21 February 2011 (EST)

Kairi's Childhood
First: About Sora finding Kairi washed up on shore, it's in the first scene of the manga, which is not considered canon.

Second: As much as I like her appearance in BBS, it's not enough. I want to "see" more of Kairi's childhood, how Radiant Garden was taken over by Heartless, how Kairi arrived in Destiny Islands, how she met Sora and Riku, and what her first few days/weeks on the Islands were like. I do hope Nomura will have the decency to "show" us in a future game. Blackchaos27 18:35, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in CoM; at the very least, they talk about how she showed up. Can someone look into what exactly the games say happened? 21:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I can't remember any background information of Kairi revealed in CoM (and there is nothing to be found in this script too). I think Sora's childhood scene quote "Hey, you know the new girl at the mayor’s house?" is the only time her past on Destiny Islands is mentioned. --ShardofTruth 22:20, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I've read about what basically happened, as well as the small pieces that a few of the games mention. But the point I'm trying to make is I don't want to just read or hear about what happened, I want to "see" what actually happened with my own eyes. What I'm saying is I think it'd be nice if in a future game Nomura would touch upon her childhood more by creating flashback scenes of how everything I mentioned above happened. In my opinion, the backstory of any protagonist is incomplete without at least flashbacks of every important event. Blackchaos27 23:31, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * That's not really relevant to the article at all, which is why we were ignoring it.
 * Shard: Sorry, I guess the meteor shower thing wasn't about her showing up on the island. I got nothing, then. 02:02, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

(Okay then, I'll try this again.) I've always been curious about Kairi's childhood, hasn't anyone else? She came from another world and, as far as we know, has little to no recollection of it. It just makes you wonder what she may or may not remember at this point in time. Blackchaos27 17:26, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * We are ignoring this point of yours because, as Kryten stated, it isn't relevant to the article. Talk pages are meant for discussing information regarding the article and its construction, not for fan discussions. If you want to discuss this, I would suggest you head to a forum. 19:10, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh.... my bad. I misunderstood what Kryten was saying. (Man do I feel stupid right now) I'll shut up about that.
 * But about my first point: Sora finding Kairi washed up on shore was only in the manga, not the actual games. While I do think it's plausible enough to be on the article, shouldn't that at least be noted? (That's a relevant question, right?) Blackchaos27 20:57, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, you didn't know any better. As for the other point, I will fix that - thanks for noting it. 02:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I see what you did, but I think I'll tweak it a bit so that looks more accurate. Blackchaos27 05:12, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Pairings

 * I'm not from the Xion Hate Club, but this is not fit for the talk page. Please use the forums for casual discussion. 23:06, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Chinese?

 * Kanji is interchangeable with Chinese, Japanese is just a mix of Kanji, Hiragana and Katakana. 16:48, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Pantsu..?
Okay, I don't know for sure if this even warrents a mention in this article or if it's something to be moved to the localization/censorship section of the main game article but I... er...

You know how if you look under her skirt at the Altar of Naught you can see she's wearing white panties with a ribbon on them? As far as I know they kept that in all localizations originally (my PS2 copy is NA) But I noticed in my PAL copy of KHII.5 ReMix that there's... nothing there anymore. They got rid of them and now her thighs are stumps and you can just see right up into the inside of Kairi's model. Is this a localization thing? Were they removed in all version of KHII.5 ReMix, or just removed in the NA/PAL versions of II.5?  Eden t / c 17:17, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * What a peculiar question. But yes, Kairi's underwear texture was removed in every version of 2.5 as Selphie's underwear texture was removed in 1.5. -- 18:22, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I want to express my personal discomfort with detailing this on the article, if that's where this was leading. 19:59, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * If I recall correctly, the FF Wikia does this for the characters, too? I remember seeing edits being made for the FF Type-0 characters and seeing images of their "pantsu". I think the description is still in their articles.-- 23:11, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * There is nothing wrong with videogame characters having underwear (it's a bit strange that this was only the case for Kairi and Selphie in the KH series though), but this can be twisted in a unpleasant way, so I'm all for keeping it out of the article. I wouldn't even know this was the case when people on the KHInsider forum didn't complain about it missing in the remixes. -- 08:57, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

This IS a kids wiki, and a kids game after all. 12:57, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't call this a kids wiki or kids game, but I agree with leaving it out of the article. 13:03, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Xehanort Experimenting on Kairi
A friend of mine just showed be this post on Tumblr. It has a picture of a page of one of the Kingdom Hearts novels that pretty much implies that Xehanort was experimenting on Kairi, particularly he tried to turn her into a Heartless, but it failed. Is it worth putting this info onto this wiki? I mean we've used info that was only covered in the novels before, namely Vanitas's background.

Here's a link to the Tumblr post: http://gettachristalready.tumblr.com/post/168880631150/im-literally-shaking-right-now-so-xehanort-and Blackchaos27 (talk) 02:28, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh wow. Hmm. Just to be devil's advocate...is there somewhere "more official" that we can find this? 03:13, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, like I said, it's supposedly in one of the novels, though it doesn't specify which one. I'd think the KH2 one though given the names mentioned on the page in the photo. Other than that, unfortunately I don't know. Blackchaos27 (talk) 04:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC)