Talk:Naminé

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How come namine has no trivia?

her memory
where does it say she dint have any of kairis memorys?

Because she doesn't. XienZo 00:21, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Well Naminé was born from Kairi's heart while it was released from Sora's body. Because Kairi existed beside her she couldn't have been born with Kairi's memories. BozPity

Given her knowledge that she is Kairi's "shadow", wouldn't it make sense that Naminé was able to piece together her past life as Kairi from her power over Sora's memories. And if so, it explains the Castle Oblivion plan. (174.198.7.234 03:25, 21 July 2019 (UTC))

...Nobody? Wrong!
In chains of memories, she says she is Kairi's heartless. Also, it is implied that Zion from the new DS game is going to be kairi's nobody, so obviously Namine is the heartless. She has also displayed heartless properties, such as emotions (which nobodies are NOT suppose to have) and a lack of concern for others (to begin with, such as tampering with sora's memories).


 * Uh... she doesn't say that. You can check the script. Axel also told Roxas that Roxas has emotions unlike Axel or Namine. They're just pretending to have emotions. Furthermore, she's missing the heartless emblem, which even Xehanort's heartless has, and she lacks the form of a pureblood heartless. XienZo 01:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Although this would explain Xion, I don't think so. She says that she is her shadow, not her heartless. Shadow meaning just a part of Kairi. And she did show concern, and regret, for what she did to Sora. On the other hand, I have to point out that naturally formed heartless don't have that symbol. Rock2060 14:16, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It says in the secret ansem reports that she is Kairi's nobody. Philip   Mccann  18:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Xion is made up of Sora's memories and she only looks like Kairi because she is reflecting Sora's strongest feelings. Other than that, she really has no connection to Kairi at all, Namine is Kairi's nobody. Xion is a puppet of Sora's memories.

Abilitie
In Chain of Memories Reverse/Rebirth It is mentioned that she could have "locked" Riku's heart and keep Xehanort in apparently making him sleep and causing him to lose his memories of darkness, should be in article

Re:... Nobody? Wrong!
Namine does not specify that she is Kairi's Heartless. She merely says (In both the GBA and PS2 Versions of CoM) that she is Kairi's Shadow. This could very well mean she is either heartless or nobody, or something completely different altogether. Also remember that because Sora has the power of light, Roxas has the power of light. If Namine has power over memories, where did Kairi get this power? Much will need to be explained about this enigma, but with the little information given, we can not find out at the time. Lt.Haven 20:15, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I Wonder....
if namine can use a keyblade, i wonder wich one she would use.....

(First of all, please spell her name right, with "é" not "e".) I think Naminé's keyblade is Oathkeeper because....

1.) At the end of Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories, Naminé turns Kairi's good luck charm (the keychain of Oathkeeper)into a paupo fruit trinket. That trinket is quite possibley the keychain of Kairi's Keyblade. If it is, her keyblade and Oathkeeper are counterparts, like Naminé and Kairi.

2.) The Oathkeeper represents the bond between Sora and Kairi, and Naminé, being born from Sora's body using Kairi's heart, is, in fact, Sora and Kairi.

...And all the fact and theories aside, it even looks like it would be her's.

Aging?
I don't think Naminé can age because she's a nobody, and all of the other nobodies stay the same age. I think they're just trying to make her look like Kairi. Nitrous X 21:34, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

...Nobody? Maybe.
Xion could be Aqua's Nobody. Xion is a Nobody, and there is no room for another Nobody of Kairi (will be proven below). Aqua, however, appears to be similar to Kairi in several aspects, and Xemnas was talking to Aqua in the Room of Sleep, so with Kairi out of the loop, Aqua is left, and it all fits. But I will avoid excessive speculation and wait until 358/2 comes out.

Promised Proof: Namine stated merely that she was Kairi's "shadow". I don't think she ever said she was a "heartless". Which would be impossible, by the way, since Kairi is a Princess of Heart, and cannot ever turn into a Heartless.
 * The Secret Ansem Reports claim that Namine is merely the soul of Kairi, as her heart was with Sora and her body was left behind. Or maybe, not even that. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  19:48, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

No the Secret ansem reports say that she was created using sora's body and soul.
 * As a medium, yes, but she doesn't seem to have kept them. At best, she has a small fraction of his body and soul, as enough was left with Kairi for him to resume human form, and Roxas has enough to seem like a full Nobody. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  19:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, no doubt she's a Nobody, that much is explicit. It's just that both bodies she could have been using are already quite in use - she may have a very small fraction of Sora and Kairi's body (so she's more their Nobody child, I guess...), but DiZ explains that this is why her existence is so much more fragile than other Nobodies. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  04:18, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe Xion is rare and was formed without a person losing their heart, that would explain the fact that her name could be moved around to be "No I"--PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart 16:05, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Voodoo?
In the manga and Chain of Memories there is that doll in the cage right? I think the Organization captured her and that is a voodoo doll to keep her from escaping.--PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart 16:03, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * That actually makes sense.(174.198.7.234 03:22, 21 July 2019 (UTC))

i wonder to...
i wonder if namine is ever going to date sori becuase i looked on all those pictures on google.com and there was a lot of pictures of sora and namine...... i wish they can date even though roxas is inside of sora

fan art most likely. Nomura paired all the characters up already (Kairi-Sora; Naminé-Roxas), so we have no right to say who goes with who. Oh,how the sea calls 02:37, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well, if Kairi could...
Becasue Kairi could weild a keyblade, does that mean Namine can, too?--Xepscern 11:22, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Namine and Roxas
I think about this a lot...since Sora and kairi love each other, doesn't that mean Namine and Roxas do too?? User:Ninabean822

oo right....forgot about tht...but u no...on occasion...Namine does show some emotion at times....so does axel. User:Ninabean822

and don't forget roxas a example of roxas' showing emotion would be xion's death--Firaga44 05:44, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Aging
Nomura stated that Nobodies don't age. Naminé is evidently an exception. "Nobodies don’t age; they exist as they were at the time of becoming a Nobody." Plackers 11:20, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay. As of KH3D, we KNOW Nobodies DO age, as Ienzo was a child when he became Zexion (96.68.6.221 19:14, 29 April 2019 (UTC))

Naminé is a real nobody
Naminé is a real nobody because she is what was left behind from Kairi's heart leaving Sora's body I think Naminé used Sora's body and soul at first but remember when Kairi used her heart to turn Sora human? well I think she gave Naminé part of her soul and body in return to be able to give Sora the soul and body she was in pocession of.(Naminépower) No thats not true Roxas has Soras body and soul Namine has nothin at all she is a true non-being and as we all know,No one in kh can give their soul and body to someone they would surely die if that was true!74.103.8.60 14:12, September 9, 2010 (UTC)13 keyblades

Naminé
If she was born using Sora's body and soul why is she still Kairi's nobody wouldn't she have to return her existence to Sora and not Kairi.(Naminépower)

True engough that Naminé was born from Sora, but she was born with Kairi's heart. Therefore, she is Kairi's Nobody and that's why she reutnr to her true self.-- 19:52, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

yes but she is was in pocession of Sora's body and his soul as far as they tell us so wouldn't that have to be given back.(Naminépower)

Naminé is nothing of Sora. Not body, not soul. It is possible she inherited Aqua's body, like Roxas might have inherited Ven's. This would explain both of their bodies missing, and the likeness of Roxas (and quasi likeness of Naminé to both Aqua and Kairi).Oh,how the sea calls 02:44, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Naminé and Xion
Has anyone else noticed Xion looks more like Kairi than Naminé does(Naminépower)

Yes, we all known for a looong time.-- 17:56, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Name
In most of the fics I read, either Xemnas or Marluxia. My guess is Xemnas.-- 18:14, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

They probably didn't know who Namine's Somebody was. They just gave her a name.-- 18:29, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Dead Fantasy?
Wish I knew how to do those text boxes.....

Anyway, it IS Namine using a fanmade Keyblade called Lunar Eclipse. And by the way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CgXF7lEpGI&feature=channel

Well, yeah.....Should this be added to the trivia section or something? As a non-canon appearance in Dead Fantasy. Rucario 10:35, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I don't mean about that. I mean, let's say for example, Sora appears in Final Fantasy C (Other than X and V, it's the only Roman Number I know, it's 100), then it's a non-canon appearance, right? But appeared in a highly recognized game/movie/picture. THAT's what I mean, even the Star Wars wiki (Which is bigger than it's own good) do this stuff, as Darth Vader, Galen, and Yoda appeared in Soul Calibur 4 (Or 5?). Rucario 11:23, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * That kind of stuff would be "semi-canon", since those are works by the same publisher. I hope it's at least clear how Kingdom Hearts appearing in another Square Enix production is an entirely different situation than Kingdom Hearts appearing in a fan-video. Glorious  CHAOS!  14:35, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

I admit defeat there. Rucario 13:56, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade
Ok, I know that this might sound a little weird, but shouldn't Namine be a keyblade wielder? I read somewhere around the wiki that the keyblade is connected to the soul (or was it body, I can't remember), so, since Namine was born from Sora's body and soul, shouldn't she be able to wield the keyblade as well? --Random Ranaun 07:33, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, while the soul thing is a bit off (it's been very much explicitly said that it's the heart the soul belongs to which decides who is eligible to wield, and I always thought Namine is a reproduction of Kairi's body and soul through Sora), Namine actually should be able to use the Keyblade since Kairi very much has the ability to wield it. Whether this will be touched upon remains to be seen. Xev154 17:24, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

removedXev154 23:23, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

she is made from kairi's heart and soul and sora's body the ability of wield the keyblade come from the heart, yes Kairi can wield the keyblade but she was never choose by any keyblade so she only can wield other people keyblades Namine never tryied to wield a keyblade so she may wield one but she never did it--Xabryn 17:43, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

But, in Birth By Sleep, Kairi touched Aqua's keyblade, meaning that she was to become a keyblade wielder. Since Namine was born from both Kairi and Sora, who can both wield the keyblade, shouldn't Namine be able to wield it too? Maybe it was because she didn't want to fight, so she never summoned it? Or maybe it has something to do with her being an unstable being as Ansem the Wise stated? --Random Ranaun 21:31, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think that kairi can only wield other peoples keyblades she never summoned one only used one that Riku gave her so if Roxas give to her one of his keyblade she would probably wield ot with no problem, besides if she could summon one she would use it agaist Marluxia or something like that--Xabryn 22:21, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, disregard my earlier comment. If Xion is any evidence, Namine definitely should be able to wield it. I guess since Kairi never actually used the keyblade before, then Namine didn't know how, and she had no idea she could use the Keyblade. Xev154 23:23, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

False trivia

 * It is worth noting that Naminé is the only humanoid Nobody in the series who's name does not have an "X" in it. She is also the only Nobody whose name is not an anagram of her original self. This is made even more unusual due to the fact that Organization XIII found her. This may be because she is a very unusual Nobody. Tetsuya Nomura may also have done this to emphasize the fact that, although she is a Nobody, she is not part of the Organization. It might also be because she doesn't possess any abilities that could be used in combat. Yet another speculation is that Kairi had no darkness in her heart, and thus, Naminé has no "X" in her name.

This trivia is false. The "X" in the organization's names are given to them by Xemnas, not "naturally bequeathed" upon them. So... this trivia is false, noting the "X" part, and that it is complete speculation. Can I get rid of it? -- 23:29, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is it false, or just a non sequiter? Glorious  CHAOS!  00:18, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * ._.


 * Can I delete it anyway? -- 00:25, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh sure. I basically hate all trivia, so my default opinion is "If it doesn't fit in article, chuck it." Glorious  CHAOS!  00:57, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Exacly what is Namine she has no soul,body and heart!Nothin!
I wanna know Namine has no componets yet she exist I read all reports but still she exist she has no body but she does and no soul but she does I mean how!?What is she!?

Namine is strange as in the ansem reports she is a true non-being at the true word but yet she still exist but doesnt at the same time how?!I mean Namne also has powers where did she get the memorie powers from and who and why was she born!?Namine is like Kairi and Soras special nobody child!?right?

Namine(kairis nobody) and Kairis heartless?!
I read the ansem reports and it said Kairi had a nobody a.k.a Namine and a heartlesss but how I dunno read secret ansem report 8 or 9 its one of those two.This is not a forum or a fan-theroie just a confused question as to why the report says that!?74.103.8.60 15:39, September 9, 2010 (UTC)13 keyblades

Yeah I know that but why does the reports say that?74.103.8.60 15:57, September 9, 2010 (UTC)13 keyblades
 * It's confusingly worded, but Ansem is talking about why she does not have a Heartless, using a hypothetical Heartless as an example, and then saying that Kairi lacks that darkness needed for it to exist. Glorious  CHAOS!  15:58, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oh I see I misread it well thx but also I was wondeing about Namine she is very strange!

I mean how can Namine exits without a body and soul but she does but than again she has a body and a soul but she doesnt at the same time.I mean how can she have no componets for a being while she has an apperance her appearnace means she has a body and a soul but she is a non-bieng.I mean is Namine like a new catergory that will be expalianed in kh3(I hope) I mean I dunno what is she nothing can exits without componets(excluding purebloods and unverse)but she does so she must have some but they say she doesnt but why does she have a apperance then I mean Im kinda confused Namine is kinda like a unverse but then again shes not Im really confused now this is not a forum or a fan-theroie still a confused question!

Capture?
Under the Kingdom Hearts II section there is a mini section labeled as Capture that talks about Riku leaving Naminé in Axel's care. I was wondering if this is mislabeled or if something should be added to it, because as it is there is no indication of her being "captured" by anybody. Naminé and Roxas Forever

New render
Can someone make a render for Namine for Re: Coded? Here's the link.-- 22:46, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Naminé's birth
Why do people keep stating that "Naminé was born when Sora stabbed himself at Hollow Bastion"? This is wrong! Nobodies are born when a person loses their heart - Kairi lost her heart right at the beginning of KHI; This is when Namine would have come into existence. I imagine her powers over Sora's memories come from the heart of her somebody spending a great deal of time in Sora - but that's just speculation. However, it does clearly state in Ansem's secret report #9 "Naminé is a Nobody, created when a young girl's heart left her body." - Left HER body. MikeyWho (talk) 23:38, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * "I believe that Naminé was born as a special type of Nobody when Sora attacked himself with the Keyblade, causing his and Kairi's hearts to leave their bodies simultaneously. " from report 10. "It would seem Roxas is much like Naminé. Naminé is Kairi's Nobody, but came into being via Sora's body and soul." from report 12, when Ansem knew more. Report 9 is clearly supposed to be Ansem basing his hypothesis on the normal procedure, then he learns more about the facts, and writes 10 and 12.72.12.205.35 02:55, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The Secret Ansem Reports confirm that Naminé was born alongside Roxas from Sora's body and soul. Hence her power over his memories. (174.198.7.234 03:20, 21 July 2019 (UTC))
 * I'm pretty sure Naminé wouldn't have existed AT ALL if it weren't for Kairi's heart being released from Sora's body. After all, when Kairi lost her heart, her body couldn't become a Nobody because she has no darkness inside her. The only reason Naminé exists is because of Sora's own body having darkness, which creates a Nobody when a strong-willed heart is released.--Mikoto (talk) 06:53, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Namine's Powers
On the main page, it says, "As she is always drawing pictures on her sketchpad, DiZ believes that she draws in order to capture the memories she needs to chain together."

Where was this stated? I can't remember it being said in any of the games.--Mikoto (talk) 06:53, 5 August 2021 (UTC)