Talk:A Fragmentary Passage

Name of the Secret Episode or the Ending?

 * Well, that's just not true. At least the first two have the titles at the beginning, and I'm pretty sure that The Gathering and Birth by sleep do as well. 17:37, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Just call it Secret Episode
It's simply called Secret Episode in the game as well, so why pick a random phrase from the introduction cutscene and try to pretend that's its title? It's neither Zero Point nor A fragmentary passage. 87.185.233.27 22:37, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * No, the theater specifically calls it "A fragmentary passage" 22:41, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just one cutscene or the headline for the whole secret episode? 87.185.233.27 22:44, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Whole thing. 22:50, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't the Save Point call it Secret Episode?--Xabryn 10:40, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it depends on whether we are talking about the story (like with Final Episode), or the scene. It might be worth splitting them. 23:02, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

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 * Okay, so the game actually treats this the same as the Last Episode, it's just that the cutscenes within it are heavily reminiscent of Blank points. However, I think Blank points is still the true ending video. As such, I think we should move this to "Secret Episode", and mention that "A fragmentary passage" is the name of the video scenes. (When you select Afp in the Theater Menu, does it actually contain the gameplay of the Secret Episode?) 00:35, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

I believe not, no. I'd say we create seperate articles for the Secret Episode and Afp, like we do for the Last Episode and Blank points. 00:42, January 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * However, Blank points is not connected to Last Episode at all. You have to beat Blank points, then go and open the scene in the Theater Menu. Afp, you just see it while playing the Secret Episode. 00:47, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

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Translations
I was just watching the cyberman videos, and I was wondering if anyone can translate the parts in Japanese. It'd be much appreciated. 71.92.202.190 04:14, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

synopsis
whats the numbers for? 18:10, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you really watched the ending? 00:28, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Beginner Mode
The page says "Beginner Mode - not accessible." However, the menu for 2.5's BBSFM says "(The secret movie is extremely difficult to unlock in this mode)", thus implying it is unlockable. Verdict? Draconai (talk) 19:26, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh, χ-blade, the wiki doesn't know. I'm effed. Draconai (talk) 21:47, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * As completing the Trinity Archives 100% is the most difficult task already I can only imagine that this also the unlock condition for the Beginner Mode now, if it's not an error, because I haven't found any evidence that this really changed, at least not on the Japanese boards. You probably have to find someone who 100% completed Beginner Mode already, maybe on gamefaqs. -- 07:50, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought about it, in the original Final Mix the Secret Episode had the same unlock conditions as the secret movie Blank Points, maybe this was changed and Blank Points can be viewed in Beginner Mode now. I find an error still more likely though. -- 20:44, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I have got a strong feeling that we need to 100% every single darn thing, beat every superboss however hard it may be, etc., etc., etc. in Beginner Mode before actually viewing Blank Points. Just a hunch. Feel free to disregard.  Trois nyx  23:02, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I don't know but completing the journal 100% already includes most of this stuff since the secret bosses all have character entries for example. -- 09:03, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm in the process of 100%ing Beginner Mode now, I'll report back. Does Normal Mode Fragmentary Passage require all the trophies as part of 100%ing the Trinity Archives? Draconai (talk) 20:56, 26 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, you need Mickey symbols everywhere. 100% Trinity Report = 100% of all three individual reports + all items. I think the Secret Gem, Victory Line and the tickets/recipes from the Mirage Arena are probably the only items that can be passed to get 100% in an individual report but not for 100% in the trinity report. -- 21:50, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Hidden Mickey. They're called frickin' Hidden Mickeys. Anyways, thanks for the tip. I'll report back to you when I clear up. Unless someone else beats me to it/finds that someone has already done it. Draconai (talk) 00:51, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

WOAH. WOAH-HO. WOAH WOAH WOAH. HOLY. BAGS. OF MULCH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. I just cleared the Final Episode, didn't do anything out-of-the-way except Keepers of the Arena, and I just got a notice to save data to start the Secret Episode. Trinity Report is at 84%, but I have everyone's ultimate Shotlocks. I can get a photo if you guys need it, BUT I think someone's gonna have to start data mining and figure out the necessary necessities because I don't have a clue in Valhalla what the Pulse just happened. Draconai (talk) 22:38, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you got it, even though it doesn't make any sense to me;-) Did you also unlock Blank Points? -- 07:41, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes I did. Blank Points plays, and then A Fragmentary Passage starts. As far as unlock conditions go, I am in the deepest, darkest abyss. Draconai (talk) 08:08, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Unlock conditions across the different versions
I think it's time for another table as there seems to be a lot of misinformation circling around regarding the unlock conditions of Blank Points/A Fragmentary Passage: The information for the original Japanese release comes from the Ultimania, the information for the International (NA & PAL) from the Bradygames guide, since there is no (complete) official guide book for the Final Mix version (I will check the Master Navigation guide again though), there is no concrete source for the rest. Still there are three things to consider: For the Beginner Mode unlock in the Final Mix versions: Apparently it was always possible to unlock the secret movie on the lowest difficulty, here is a screenshot from the PSP version. But since it was translated wrong by KeytoTruth/Truthkey for the fan patch and nobody cared to examine the unlock conditions, this became a fact somehow. Thanks to Draconai we least know that 100% journal completion is not required, so it's probably another trophy or 100% treasure chests or something like that. If there is are no further questions or obscurities regarding this topic I will (or everyone who feels like it can) add this information to the page. -- 07:29, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) You have to unlock the Last/Final Episode first (meaning collecting all Xehanort Reports), even if you already fulfilled the unlock conditions for Blank Points/Secret Episode.
 * 2) The unlock conditions must always be met with Terra, Ventus and Aqua for the difficulty mode of their story. This means if you played Terra on Standard and Ventus/Aqua and Proud in the International release, you have to complete Terra's report (all Mickey marks) but not Ventus's and Aqua's.
 * 3) In the Japanese and International release of BBS it's required to complete the report on Standard. This doesn't include defeating the secret bosses since Vanitas Remnant doesn't have a journal entry in the original Japanese release and although both Vanitas Remnant and the Unknown have one in the International release, they are not counted towards 100% completion (meaning you can get the Mickey symbol without them). In the Final Mix and ReMIX release all secret boss entries have to be in the journal to get the Mickey mark, but journal completion is not required anymore. This is because Normura wanted all players to experience the Secret Episode, so the unlock conditions were made easier (a summary of the Degenki interview stating this fact can be found here, and translated here).

I can confirm that the unlock condition on Beginner Mode is not 100% treasure chests or anything like that, because I did nothing out of my way aside from getting the Ultimate Shotlocks. I haven't even fought either of the superbosses. I'm starting to get the feeling that it's just automatically unlocked upon completion of the Final Episode, similar to on Critical Mode. I know that doesn't make any sense, even setting aside the "explanation" on the difficulty select menu, but that's the only conclusion I can reach. Draconai (talk) 19:24, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess, how long would it take to do a speedrun on Beginner? 21:22, 3 June 2015 (UTC)