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Thanks! KeybladeSpyMaster (talk) 00:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)



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Youtube Player Template
So should i make the template for KHWiki? Byzantinefire (talk) 00:24, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I asked Porplemontage about it, and it doesn't appear that such a thing is possible without creating a MediaWiki page or installing an extension, which I'm not sure I'm allowed to do. At least, that's what I think he meant. You could ask him, but from my understanding and investigation, it's not possible on here. 00:35, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well you don't know if you don't try. Byzantinefire (talk) 00:37, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I did try to copy the codes that the DisneyWiki uses, but it doesn't seem to work. Go ahead and try, if you want. 00:39, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you've noticed or not...
But your response on the "Template Talk" (Magazine forum) got cut off from your " blahblah  " tags. I'm not entirely sure why it doesn't work but I thought I'd let you know. 01:29, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it was the stupid pipes I used as I was explaining something. So yeah. Thanks again! 01:37, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Retired OP Page
Hey there. Were you at the last Roundtable meeting? If so, was anything decided about creating a retired OP page? I would check the logs myself, but for whatever reason my computer will not allow it. I'm sorry for the bother. 04:52, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was there at the Roundtable this month. We decided to create a retired staff page, but the staff featured would only be staff "post-KHWiki" split. That was it, we didn't really go into too much details on that, like who or how it would be created. I almost made it myself several times. 15:53, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * So it is safe to say all that was decided was that the page needed to be created, right? Okie dokie. I'll start a discussion on the talk page here in a moment. Thanks, Keyblade! ^_^ 18:52, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Template:Chapter list
So, as from my recent edit to the Kingdom Hearts Volume 1 page, the tabbed chapter list for Tokyopop and Yen Press is complete. My question to you is: can we remove the parenthesis under the volume number sections? Now that the tables are separated, there is no need for the parenthesis anymore. Thanks! 02:48, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll get on it! 04:26, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Finished! However, I do have to question, now that we have the tables separate, is there a point in having separate parameters for the volumes? Shouldn't we just make them all one parameter now? 04:40, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I've reviewed the April Roundtable in which all this was decided. Turns out, and this is my fault, I've done the volume articles and list of KH chapters pages the wrong way. The chapter summaries go on volume pages, while the list of KH chapters page should just chapter titles. That's not a hard thing to fix, just cut/paste the templates around. The List of KH chapters page should look very close to this: click. The individual volume pages should look like this: click. I'm going to first switch the templates around. Does this answer your question? 19:18, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * EDIT: If we do what I've stated above, that would make the List of Kingdom Hearts chapters page irrelevant/no longer needed....We couldn't determine the use for it back then, and I'm still not sure of it now. I'm up for marking it for deletion, but won't delete it outright. Kryten might have had a plan for it. I'd hate to delete all his work on it. EDIT x3: Just now realized I contradicted myself. >_< I got confused on what to do for the central hub page (KH (manga)). If we make KH (manga) look like Wikipedia's "List of NCIS episodes," we won't need List of KH chapters. However, if we keep List of KH chapters, the volume pages would either have duplicate information (keep the same info), or would be a shorter article (leave the information on the List of KH chapters/KH (manga) pages)). 19:29, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

IRC
Can you please come to the IRC there is something i wish to show you. Byzantinefire (talk) 20:22, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry
I am sorry I could not get an entry done in time for the magazine. I tried letting people know before I left I would be in Florida with no internet access during the deadline. I left this message using my phone, so yeah. Again I apologize. I hope I can contribute to the next issue. In the mean time I will try to crank out my best work yet in preparation. I should not be on vacation when the next issue is due for release. - 01:52, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Award System for Disney Wiki
Can you come to chat sometime to discuss the implementation of award templates for Disney Wiki. Byzantinefire (talk) 00:25, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Next Issue
So when can i expect work be done on the next issue? Byzantinefire (talk) 21:45, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Of the magazine? I don't know. It's whenever we get over the hype of the first issue. Why the urgency, we just published, the next issue is due three months from now. 22:32, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well i want to get involved make some interviews find some fan art to use that sort of thing and the best time for such a thing is to start early. Byzantinefire (talk) 22:39, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, if you read the Magazine page, you'd find that to get involved, you have to go the Journalist Spot to sign-up and discuss work/drafts. Again, though, we might not do much about it for another month. 22:44, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Magazine Problem
As addressed over here. 03:17, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Your majesty
Hi your majesty. Can you teach me how to make great user page and use talk bubbles? Thank you.

00:43, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Just thought I'd thank you for understanding my plight regarding the magazine and for the award. Belated congrats on being featured user; I'll be home tomorrow from my trip, and hopefully back to work in preparation for the second issue. - 21:58, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Project:Music
Should we run across any missing .ogg files, let me know...I think I can get them. Most likely. 23:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Traverse Town: Third District
Do you mind updating the image for the Secret Waterway now that the CotM is running? Thanks! 00:09, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

As requested...
Here is the reminder do the KHFavorite event over on the KHWiki's Twitter. 00:36, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that! I thought I had it scheduled, but I (apparently) put 10:05 PM instead of 10:05 AM, which is why it didn't post. I haven't been on since before then, so yeah. Thanks so much, I totally wouldn't have checked again! 00:54, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Old Traverse Town images
^ ...that can be found over here. Are we good to delete them? Thanks! 00:53, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Welcome message
Can I make a welcome message? 18:19, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? 18:38, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Fifteenthmember posted one at the top of your page. 18:50, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * You want to welcome someone to the wiki? Sure. You simply use this:


 * where < > is your signature. It's a default welcome message we give everyone upon arriving. If you want, you can add an additional message after the welcome template the way I did for you when you first came. 18:54, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Can you please come to the disney wiki cat. Byzantinefire (talk) 15:59, 10 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I can't until later today, because I have church in a bit. Maybe in the late afternoon or at night. Sorry. 16:08, 10 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Are you available to edit this Silver remove some things. Byzantinefire (talk) 02:10, 11 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I told SilverFlight I'd handle the merge tomorrow when I had time. I don't know why she couldn't wait. I'll handle it, though. 03:11, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

IRC?
02:52, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Once again? 05:08, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

That's okay, are you available now? 04:26, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Next Disney Wiki Pages
So will it be the Mini-Game list or a reconstruction of the Hollow Bastion page and when do you intend to begin? Byzantinefire (talk) 20:22, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I much prefer the world pages, so I guess a re-write of Hollow Bastion would be good. I don't know when I'll begin, though, since school's about to start. 20:26, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe it should be called Radiant Garden instead of Hollow Bastion. Byzantinefire (talk) 19:41, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Can you please help me deal with this. http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Radiant_Garden?diff=1338891&oldid=1338885 Byzantinefire (talk) 03:45, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Mirage Arena
I just saw the Recent Changes and noticed you changed the templates and everything. Really sorry for not changing them myself; I kinda forgot :< 10:18, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha! I totally forgot that you would do that. I just did it because I was finally going to do this on time for the first time. It's fine, we'll try it again this Friday. 00:23, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * All right, I'll set a reminder. 13:13, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Revived with a beautiful graphic from the grand tale connected to Kingdom Hearts III
That's the translation. 05:12, 25 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks so much for that! 20:05, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Mirage Arena
Do I have to wait for the timer to run out or can I change the templates a couple of hours early if have to? 21:04, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didn't answer yesterday, I can't tell when I getmessaged from the mobile site. It's ok a couple hours early, as long as it's still reasonably close to theclose time KeybladeSpyMaster (talk) 19:13, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Cool. I updated it.

It's so pretty! *.*
Hey, nice job on the 2.5 theme! I love the changing logo (whether or not that was intentional). Anyways, thanks for all your hard work. :D 17:10, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! The logo is supposed to change, just not the way ANX described. 17:33, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

New Welcome
Hey your Majesty. I was thinking about replacing the new welcome template. Is it ready to be used? 22:24, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reminding me. I'll change it, because there's an issue that I have to note when I add it. 22:39, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Magazine Puzzle
Hey KSM, would you be interested in partnering up and making a "spot the difference" puzzle for the Light Cycle on the Grid? I have ideas of what to do but I need the assistance of someone with the magical program of Photoshop. 22:21, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, what do you have in mind? 01:43, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Cool. Do you have an email or is there a time we can speak on the IRC (in PM)? 16:20, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

oh wow
I have an extension that replace all "g o d" to "nocolas cage", wasnt even aware that it did that to words and save it while editing x.x 18:07, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Working on a Project
TALK - Working on a project. 05:14, 20 September 2014 DaysAxel.png

NOTE: Sorry if my English is bad. Not my homeland language. Your wiki is so great! If you need something, you'll never left without attention! It's seem like I can not only grab some info, but also upload my works! Okay, let's get down to the business. I'm working on a project. It's called "Kingdom Hearts Ultimate Collection" and contains every Kingdom Hearts game playable on PC. I wanted to make a port of HD remixes, but there's already some. So I decided to make something bigger. Practically, this collection is just a couple of emulators with including ROMs/ISOs, but I want it to run automatically like a PC game, without setting anything (that's the problem!). Interface is not a big deal, I'm good at Game Maker. Since I already got everything I needed, here's a list of everything containing in my collection: Kingdom Hearts games (10 in 1) Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep (PSP) Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix (PSP) Kingdom Hearts (PS2) Kingdom Hearts Final Mix (PS2) Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories (GameBoy advance) Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories (PS2) Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days (Nintendo DS) Kingdom Hearts II (PS2) Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix (PS2) Kingdom Hearts Re:Coded (Nintendo DS)

Bonus Square Enix + Disney games: The World Ends With You (Nintendo DS) Final Fantasy IV (Nintendo DS) Epic Mickey (Wii) Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Wii) Extra Content: Kingdom Hearts Soundtrack Siro Amano's Works Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days HD Cutscene Movie Kingdom Heart 3D: Dream Drop Distance Cutscene Movie Kingdom Hearts Chronicles (from KH3D)

I know this will take huge amounts of memory, but it is worth it! If you have any opinion or advice, tell me! I'll try to solve my problem until then.

Hi there!
Nice to meet you I really like this wiki and I've been a Kingdom Hearts fan for ages. I'd like to ask a question, how do I upload pictures to my profile? Lightning Princess 12 (talk) 14:06, 29 September 2014

Timeline
I don't appreciated having my edits undone and where am i supposed to add that image now? Byzantinefire (talk) 17:44, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Theme
Are you availible and able to design themes and wordmarks for the Disney Wiki? Byzantinefire (talk) 21:52, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

HD Boxes
Will you upload them, or should I? 23:19, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll do it later. Not right now, though. 23:32, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Magazine Podcast
I assume the 2 are separate like a podcast for the magazine and another one for something else unbelievable. Byzantinefire (talk) 21:02, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No. Though their themes are different, the podcast is handled the same way. In addition, the podcast you were a part of was the one meant to be released with the magazine anyways. 22:16, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Magazine Interview
Hey KSM, are you interested in doing an interview with me (I'll be asking the questions)? We have three months so we don't have to do it any time soon. 21:41, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I was going to ask him. Byzantinefire (talk) 21:43, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. I'll do it with someone else then. *Leaves it at that before the situation turns into a playground argument.* 21:45, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Guys, there's no reason to fight over me (secretly blushing...not really ). Anyways, seriously, it's not a point getting mad at over, Byz. Since FM kindly has chosen to do it with someone else, I'll do it with Byz, then. 22:18, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Tomorrow then. Byzantinefire (talk) 00:02, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * ^Read availability notice at the top of the page. I won't be available 'till Monday. 00:10, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh then monday of course. Byzantinefire (talk) 00:19, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts Let's Play Project
So I saw on the front page that you guys are going to start a Kingdom Hearts Let's Play series soon. I was wondering if you guys would let me be the one to host it? I have extensive experience with the games as I have played every game released in America aside from Re:Coded and I am actually doing a Kingdom Hearts series Let's Play for the Something Awful Let's Play subforum. If you could get in touch with me via email at jstephens64804@gmail.com I would be greatly appreciative. Also if you would like a preview of my work you can check it out on my Youtube channel. The channel name is the same as username for the wiki. -GrandmasterArcturus.

Coded
Could you spare a moment at the place where the tables are in a circular shape once a month? 01:39, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Could you help me out?
Since you're pretty good with templates, I was wondering if you could help me out. I'm having some trouble with this template used for Card: Articles. As seen on this page, there are two empty cells at the bottom-left, next to Support Value. These cells normally contain either Home World or HP, but this card has neither. So, I wanted it to show Home World and leave the cell beneath that blank, like other cards have, but that doesn't seem to work. The Home World only shows up when I add something to the cell beneath it. For example, a "-" would let it show up, but automatically adds the category "- cards", as you can see here. Is there something you can do to fix it? I would really appreciate it. 17:15, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, figured it out. So, for the code to work and show the Home World to appear, the code uses not a regular hyphen, but a special character hyphen. Here's the difference: this is the regular hyphen from keyboards: -, and here's the one used on that Cloud page, and in the template's code: – . The difference is how long it is, which I didn't think mattered, but it apparently does. To get the second hyphen, the one that works, you go in the edit page down to the wiki markup codes box, further down the page from the "Save Page" button. In the section that says "Insert:", you select the first hyphen, the shorter one. It adds it to the text automatically when you click it. However, that's how the Cloud page works. I've fixed the template so that it does the same for regular hyphens, too, so that should work now, too. 17:31, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks ^-^
Oh, Sorry I didn't notice that it was there haha I just removed it, thanks for telling me it was there ^-^

Possible false KHIII release date
Can you please speak to him he most likely won't listen to me. http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_III?diff=1404609&oldid=1404606 Byzantinefire (talk) 22:47, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * He's still doing it. Byzantinefire (talk) 03:31, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've already tried, there's not much I can do, really. 03:53, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Well you sent him a message it might work and if he fails to comply you could always report him to dlrp or silver. Byzantinefire (talk) 04:15, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You could report him, too. After all, even if you guys don't get along, Walt Disney Jr. is still breaking rules. I doubt SilverFlight or Dlrgirl would refuse to get his attention just because they don't like you.
 * Those 2 have anything against the relationship is just strained a bit. Byzantinefire (talk) 04:42, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, that should do it. I hope. 04:54, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Re:cent Changes
I'm glad someone got a little humor out of it. I like doing that when i have to flood the RC. Also I think that UC is the only one really upholding that rule. As soon as he dies of old age the first thing that's going up is the new hearts. If you're reading this UC, we love you. Even if you don't let us heart you. 02:56, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Disney Wiki Riku page
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Riku When can you get started on building up this page? Byzantinefire (talk) 18:55, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know. I've gotten quite busy on the wiki. 19:40, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Avengers: Age of Ultron Teaser
Byzantinefire (talk) 16:44, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

PW
He said "Ok, I have an hour or two then, I'll probably need a reminder." I'll let you know about us later. 03:18, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Podcast IRC discussion
Can you explain to me why 15 and UC were talking about me behind my Back?. 01:47, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Yoooo like
uuu xD FYI: There's no featured article or SilentHero's FU thingy hasn't been written--I asked FM to do it because I thought your banner said you were going to be absent this weekend, but he siad he would do it later. Mind doing it now? 16:07, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Big Hero 6 Disney Wiki Wordmark
Do you have the wordmark ready Byzantinefire 19:15, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Dlrgirl told me not to when I showed them to her. She said they could handle it themselves. 19:29, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Really they could handle it themselves (sarcasm) they barely use the walt font for the wordmark and they say they could handle it themselves they are practically amateurs so why even bother considering their opinion. 19:31, 1 November 2014
 * Because they're the site's administrators. And you and I are not. So yeah, their opinion matters. 19:37, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * In my eyes they are only novices and i do intend to take back my position eventually. 19:40, 1 November 2014

A glitch! in the code!
I seem to have found a odd glitch on Pricklemane in the Nightmare Stats, it lists country of musketeers as ICountry of Musketeers. I have no idea how to fix it. Can you get to the root of this, Agent Key? 22:10, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Fixed! There was a capital letter where there wasn't supposed to be, so it was messing up the code. 22:39, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * A spy and tech master, just as the username states. Thank you for your services, captain! 22:48, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Congrats!
Took them long enough. (talk) 03:29, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

I completely forgot about this
Yeah, I know. A little late for this. 22:48, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * hahaha, thanks! 00:23, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Transparent
Hey, can you teach me how to make images transparent? Please, and thanks. 01:09, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sure. What editing program do you have? Photoshop, Gimp? 19:25, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I normally use Photoshop for advanced things, but I didn't register an account. I found the image I was looking for, but I still want to learn. And I certainly don't wanna download anything. 19:52, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That's fine, I use Photoshop, too. I don't think you necessarily need to register unless you need help/support from Adobe. Anyways, the way I do it is to use the "Magic Wand Tool" and click on the white space. That creates a selection of the entire white space, so long as there are no interruptions (other colors, etc.). Then, you use the "Eraser" tool to erase the enclosed white space. You can do it as many times as needed to erase the entire white background. 20:13, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't know, I don't use Photoshop Express. Is it an app on your phone, or for Windows 8? I can only try it and find out if your using the Windows 8 version. 21:53, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

You won't be able to use that. It only accepts and saves in .jpg, a file format that doesn't support transparency. Sorry. 22:07, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

It'd be easier to download and install GIMP, which is free. I don't know if there's a Magic Wand equivalent on GIMP (it's been a couple years since I last used it), but it's basically a free Photoshop, so I'm sure there is one. The other more obvious choice is Photoshop, which costs a ton (unless you go Chaser's way and find it for free online, which you probably could). Whichever floats your boat. According to their GIMP docs, GIMP's equivalent of the Photoshop Magic Tool is called Fuzzy Selection/Magic Wand Tool, and it looks the same, should you choose to download and install GIMP. 22:40, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

End of the year event
So where exactly are we hosting this thing? I created a duplicate page of the "End of the Year page" in the KHWiki space for the keyhole, and then you made that forum, so will it officially be over here then? 18:35, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, wow, didn't notice that. Anyways, I think it'll be jointly hosted. I just made the forum to inform of the event and the details so that they could be copied to the Keyhole however FM was planning to do it. But my understanding is that it's jointly hosted, here and on the Keyhole. 18:40, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Fan-posed Action Renders
Hi, sorry to interrupt, but do either of you mind waiting to delete the images so I can copy and paste them to a document? Personally I like them and I'd only need two days. Once they're gone, they're gone. 97.81.38.40 14:42, 6 December 2014 (UTC) Rex Ronald Rilander

ENX: Did you read the logs for the roundtable? The justifications can be found there. Essentially, we aren't classing the action renders as "fanart" since they have still been taken from the game. That's the reason why it was decided to allow them to remain. If you have any rebuttals to the points raised in the roundtable, do voice them so we can debate it. Thanks! 18:28, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't mean to sound dumb, but there are logs for the Roundtable? Where can I find those? They'e probably been right under my nose and I've just never noticed...As for the justification you just stated, I think that just means they should be permitted to stay on the Wiki, not to be used on the boss pages. My reasoning for that still stands; all of my points are above on that. - 21:06, 6 December 2014 (UTC)


 * No, we can't just keep them on the wiki without they serving a purpose. That's the point of a "No Fanart" policy. We're not a file-hosting site. Either we use them on the Game:Pages or serve another purpose on the wiki, or they go. We can't decide they're not official enough to use them and still leave them here. If we won't use them, they need to be moved off-wiki. Rex: Ultimately, whether they're moved off-wiki or not, they'll still be seen at least in Dark-Enigma's Museum of Renders (which I linked earlier). So, I'm not going to hold back on removing them just for that. Especially since they'll still be linked, they just won't be hosted here, probably on Photobucket. Not to mention, a quick Google search of each image shows they're hosted all over the place on the web. Ultimately, if we decide that we won't use them anymore, we will remove them and, in the case of Dark-EnigmaXIII's Museum of Renders, I'll re-link them via Photobucket or another file service. Perhaps they'll get moved to our sister wiki, the Keyhole. Either way, they won't stay here if we decide not to use them. 21:24, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The images just look really ugly to me in comparison to the official images, if you ask me, when you get right down to it. They look weird. "They're from the game" does NOT make them better than "They're from Square Enix" to me. I read the Roundtable logs, and my opinion still stands, using all the points I listed above as back-up. - 21:30, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

OK then KSM, that works for me. 97.81.38.40 21:57, 6 December 2014 (UTC) Rex Ronald Rilander
 * What are the "official images" you keep mentioning? You mean the renders we have for the infoboxes on the main pages? 00:07, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Any image released by Square Enix, obviously, that is used by the company in any of their products - guidebooks, websites, et cetera. KSM and I have discussed the fan-posed renders further; we're working on reaching an agreement where the fan-posed images are a LAST-RESORT ONLY! - 00:16, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I do question the Xigbar renders. Where did we get the first one from and where did we get the second one from? I thought we already made that clear in the roundtable; the less official renders are suitable when there's nothing from SE, no? 00:19, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The official renders are more suitable than the fan-posed one. I don't care how "action-y" they look. The official ones are of higher quality, official, and in all seriousness, we're really arguing over something as stupid as what we think looks better and why. Square Enix isn't releasing renders of the characters that this Wiki apparently would find suitable based on the Roundtable any time soon. So KSM and I were discussing using the official ones until and unless, by some happy circumstance, we get official images from Square. The official images should ALWAYS be used before fan-made ones. The only time the policy on fan-posed images is voided is in the case of a character like the Grand Councilwoman. Square never gave us a render of her. A screenshot would not have been suitable. So we made a render for consistency with the other articles. That is fine. But Square has released several official images of characters like the Organization members, and they should NOT and NEVER be neglected in favor of something someone made themselves. The fan-posed images are of inferior quality to the official ones. Trying to twist the policy on official vs. fan-posed images just because Square hasn't released any images like what you're searching for does NOT change the situation. Official images still should be used in our mainspace rather than the fan-posed ones, except as a LAST RESORT. Exceptions to the policy are ONLY things like Xemnas's dragon form, which Square never released any renders of. - 00:28, 7 December 2014 (UTC)