Forum:Manual of Style Changes


 * Chronological order is okay in my view. In truth, either method works. It's just arbitrarily choosing one and sticking to it. 20:24, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

My turn: Sorry if this is coming out as rambling, I am running on fumes at the moment. -- 05:19, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Re: "they": I don't feel I need to argue much more than anyone else has already done, so I will just say that I find "they" to be more than satisfactory. While we do want to obey the rules of grammar, we are not striving to be great examples of the highest levels of grammatical propriety, and readability should be a top priority, and "his or her" makes a sentence feel clunky and annoying. Since "they" is acceptable, we should accept it, even if college professors wouldn't be happy about it.
 * Re: captions: Captions, if used, should be used for information not included in the article (e.g., appearances). I don't see a problem with using characters' names unless it implies exclusion of another character. (So, say "the user" for Firaga, but name names for Break Time [@Kryten, I don't understand your argument about Break Time. How would you word that caption?]) If Riku is the only one to use Maelstrom, there's no reason why using him name would be unacceptable. "The user" would also be acceptable, but I personally think it would sound better to use a name in this case. For abilities in multiple games, like Tornado, unless you're going to say specifically "In KHCOM, when using Tornado, Sora..." saying the name of the character is silly, because of the exclusion thing, since Ven uses it in BBS. (I don't know if I would say the same about, say, Faith, since the versions in different games are different.) If we start cutting down on images, the exclusion factor will become more important, making "the user" necessary for more images.
 * In short, if you intend to use one image to describe multiple characters' or games' versions, I would most likely agree with using "the user", but otherwise, I like the sound of using names.
 * I agree with Kryten about not going overboard with caption lengths, though. Don't feel obligated to spell out every small detail of a visual.
 * On a related note, if we do decide for minimalism, I would be okay with just, for example, "Thundaga" or "Slide Dash in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep".
 * Re: Kryten's Sidenote 1: What the hell is wrong with using "Birth by Sleep"? (And "Chain of Memories", and "Dream Drop Distance"?) We used to be okay with that, weren't we? Obviously, the first time in a paragraph(?) we should use the full title, but it's not necessary to use it every single time.
 * Re: Kryten's Sidenote 2: Agree. Also, be careful about misusing "allow", because when it comes to visuals, that just makes the captions sound really weird.
 * Re: nav templates: Game release order. That's what the custom (if you can call it that) has been for the longest time, and I believe it makes the most sense.

I don't really feel like getting into Wikipolitics, but I'll just say that as of 2.5 English, the secret video is indeed "Birth by Sleep" with that exact capitalisation. Ultima Spark  (talk)   15:58, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Well scheize. 17:17, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Here's the difference: "Birth by Sleep" the video versus Birth by Sleep the game. Remember that game titles are in italics. And I think it's alright to use quotes for the video. That's how we could differentiate the two. 18:06, 13 January 2015 (UTC)