Forum:Design vs. Appearance

I would say that "Appearance" is for characters and near-characters (which might include Maleficent's goons...) and "Design" is for enemies that don't fit in that. -- 21:07, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

Look at it this way: if we wrote an article about an animal, would it be appearance or design? 22:01, 24 May 2011 (EDT)
 * You don't "design" an animal. -- 22:05, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

Exactly. 22:12, 24 May 2011 (EDT)


 * I'm against this.
 * I was under the impression that we use "design" sections to cover etymology, if needed. See Shadow for an example and Star Seeker for an exemplary use of combining "appearance" and "etymology" (even though this is a weapon article, it still gets the point across; this absolutely could and should be done with enemy articles). "Design" sections cover the design of the entire subject, including things such as appearance and etymology, while "Appearance" covers the physical features strictly. We could technically split them into "Appearance" and "Etymology" sections, but as we're able to effectively use them in one section, it's redundant.
 * In this case (@Crono), they are designed. They're monsters in a video game -- video game monsters are designed by someone. Not to mention they aren't animals; have you ever heard of an animal named "Aeroplane", "Shadow Blob" or "Missilediver"? -- 03:58, 26 May 2011 (EDT)
 * To add on to that, "Appearance" sections could be used when there really isn't any etymology to cover (such as Maleficent's Goons). -- 04:00, 26 May 2011 (EDT)

So, a character like Cid would get design? That doesn't make sense to me. Either way, though, a Heartless, especially a pureblood, is more similar to an animal than... an accesory. 11:14, 26 May 2011 (EDT)

Heartless are essentially animals in the KH world, so I would give them appearance. Design is only to be used with inanimate things such as Keyblades, accessories, items, etc. not living beings. Also, Doorknob would have appearance, not design due to being animate. 12:23, 26 May 2011 (EDT)


 * ...huh? -- 12:53, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
 * @Inexistent: Characters are the only ... "things" (for lack of a better word) to get both Appearance and Etymology sections. They should never use design sections; only items, weapons, enemies, etc. do. So as for Cid, no.
 * Is what I'm saying not making sense? Or am I just being blatantly ignored, as usual? We use design sections to cover both appearance and etymology. I got chewed out for trying to separate them before.
 * "_____ sounds funny, is weird, blah blah blah" is not a good reason to change it. If it was, we'd have changed Lingering Will back to Lingering Sentiment long ago. -- 14:02, 27 May 2011 (EDT)


 * 1) Technically, "Sentiment", "Will", and "Remnant" all apply to the meaning of Shinen, as was pointed out prior. "Will" was only used because of "Will's Cage", the name of the map where you fight as Lingering Will in BBS. But that's changing the subject.
 * 2) We aren't FFWiki or Wookieepedia; who says what they do is better than what we do?
 * 3) For the last friggen time, we use Appearance for characters and enemies with no etymology. Design is used for items, weapons, and all non-character Heartless/Nobodies (for consistency's sake). We don't use it for everything.
 * 4) The image coding in your Luigi template is messed up. -- 15:22, 27 May 2011 (EDT)

Um, Lego, it's easier to find an article that doesn't have etymology. All the weapons, all the Heartless, and a lot of accesories have etymologies. Unless you are talking about a different type of etymology, I don't understand where you're coming from. Enlighten me, if you could. 16:53, 27 May 2011 (EDT)


 * @LightRoxas: I personally would prefer it if this wiki were in the minority. Who wants to see the same page format over every wiki they visit? We're more interesting if we're different.
 * @Inexistent: Um, Inexistent, I don't understand what you don't understand. I am referring to the etymologies, the meaning of a subject's name, that exist within the Design sections around the wiki.
 * But I digress; if, say, you get your way and every single enemy article gets their Design section changed to an Appearance section, what do you propose is done to the etymology coverage within those sections? Certainly, "Appearance" doesn't cover meaning of names and anything besides appearance that may exist within the Design section. Rather than argue, propose a counter-solution that is better than what we're doing currently, which is a simple coverage on all of the aspects of the being in question rather than just what it looks like. -- 21:21, 27 May 2011 (EDT)

FF characters usually don't have "etymologies", they have "origins", although I believe that you are saying that they are the same thing. I really don't see why Heartless cannot be equavilated more closely to characters than items. That is my main quarell. 21:37, 27 May 2011 (EDT)