Talk:Riku-Ansem

No
It's about Riku's new form, not exactly Xehanort's Heartless itself. So...

Well, I guess we could consider moving it.

As Riku calls himself "Ansem" in this form, not "Xehanort's Heartless", this should be under "Ansem Form". Glorious  CHAOS!  02:59, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Merging with Riku article
People! This page is a spin-off article about Riku's form as Xehanort's Heartless, not the Riku article itself. Consider it like the other forms our Kingdom Hearts characters use. Of course, this is not really a useful form in battle, but it's still a disguise.

This article should not be merged, because it has an independent purpose of its own as Riku's alternate forms, just like his Dark Mode. Besides, if you consider this page should be merged, then maybe you should merge the Dark Mode article too. It isn't exactly a good article itself. User:Charmed-Jay April 10, 2009

Renaming
So Days's museum labels him as "Riku-Ansem" (or was it Ansem-Riku? I forget and my DS is dead). So not only does that confirm we should use Ansem rather than Xehanort, doesn't that also give us an actual official name rather than just "Riku (Anything)"? Dazuro 08:55, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * What museum are you talking about? Glorious  CHAOS!  14:23, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Er, not museum, theater. The cutscene viewer thing. Sorry. Dazuro 16:40, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * The scene is actually dubbed "Riku Becomes Ansem." There's also one called "DiZ and Riku", if that's what you meant by the whole Riku-Ansem thing, since Ansem is really DiZ, and the "Ansem" is Xehanort's Heartless (wow... really redundant). I'd say we retitle back to Riku (Xehanort's Heartless). - EternalNothingnessXIII 23:31, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Please actually look at the entire list before you make yourself look foolish. There's also one simply called "Riku-Ansem." Dazuro 03:59, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * "Mickey and Riku-Ansem". That shit is canonical. Glorious  CHAOS!  16:58, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Improvement
Would it be possible to get a Photoshop artist to believalby mix a render of Xehanort's Heartless with an Organization member (Xemnas, preferrably)'s cloak? We could then have a "sub-proper" image. We also need to reformat the page, as it has some story significance. The way it is positioned now is as a really long "opening paragraph". We need to reformat with a Story, Weapon, and Fighting Style section, along with anything else necessary. - EternalNothingnessXIII 18:01, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

EDIT : Would it be possible instead to extract the render from the Jiminy Journal in a large size while still HQ? - EternalNothingnessXIII 19:00, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

How does he do it?
Hey guys i want to put on this article that it is unknown how riku is able to turn back to riku during the riku-mickey cutscene, but during his battle with roxas he gets stuck as ansem-xehanort's heartless, but i havent beat days yet, so im just not sure how he does it. i just wanted to check with u guys before i put it on there --Kingdom zachdawg 04:53, January 31, 2010 (UTC) Its been some time, but I think this is how it happened. At some point the Darkness in Riku grew strong enought that against his will he gained the appearance of Ansem. He realized that by wearing the blindfold he was able to surpress that Darkness and return himself to his real form. During the fight with Roxas he had to give in completely to the Darkness, thus rendering his ability to surpress it unusable. --Evnyofdeath 00:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Something I noticed
If you look at the image in the article of him using the Guardian to defeat Roxas, he is grabbing Roxas's shoulders. However in Days, he grabs Roxas around the arms or waist. --Evnyofdeath 16:55, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Merge with Riku
I personally don't see a reason for why this should be it's own page. I read that this was being compared to Ventus-Vanitas and Terra-Xehanort which I don't see as a fair comparison. In Ventus-Vanitas' case it was Ventus body being controlled by Vanitas. Same with Xehanort taking charge of Terra's body. In this scenario it's just Riku's body which changed appearance. Ansem isn't controlling him, nor is he controlling Ansem. Remember Ansem doesn't have a proper body. In KH1 he stole Riku's body and reshaped it to something more suitable. When Sora fights Ansem at End of the World he's actually fighting Ansem's heart inside Riku's reshaped body. By continuing to have this page we're sort of saying that this is it's own entity, which it really isn't. It's just Riku with a different appearance. He doesn't even have different mind if we're to compare him to Anti-Aqua. It's just Riku. - JTD95 (talk) 14:26, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not simply changing appearance, as it's an actual condition. That's why the Encoder exploding had a measurable effect on this. There is something fundamentally different about Riku-Ansem's composition, versus standard Riku. 17:42, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Same goes for Ansem (Robed Figure) and Ansem SoD with Riku's body. KH3D even has separate journal entries for them. But if the wiki has chosen to have those two on the same page shouldn't same follow with Riku and Riku-Ansem? - JTD95 (talk) 18:59, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Robed Figure should not be on the same page. KH3D makes it very clear they are separate. 22:05, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Main image
The main image is a render of Riku-Ansem's old look pre-HD, should we perhaps update it with an image of his redesigned appearance? --Vanitas (talk) 18:10, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Hyphenated naming inconsistency?
I know “Riku-Ansem” has been established in-game, but considering the “possessee-possessor” scheme of Terra-Xehanort and Ventus-Vanitas, is Riku-Ansem inconsistent? Has this been officially addressed? TJF588 (talk) 14:58, 3 July 2020 (UTC) TJF588 (talk) 14:58, 3 July 2020 (UTC)