Game talk:Lingering Will

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Why is Lingering Sentiment branded with the ....ugh...'Somebody' emblem? Kaihedgie 04:51, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * What does the Ultimania say? Glorious  CHAOS!  05:00, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what the Ultimania says and frankly, I don't trust it x: I don't read Japanese

Despite the officialness of these books, 'Somebody' is never used in there at all. So why are you using it, on LS of all people? Kaihedgie 05:08, June 22, 2010 (UTC) Kaihedgie 05:02, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I facepalm.

Hey guys, there's a second character with the Sentiment brand and both of these characters behave the same in terms of nature and power. How in the world does a bunch of memories and emotions count as a Somebody? Kaihedgie 05:17, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

He isn't a Nobody, nor is he a Heartless. Sure, he's not really complete, but right now I don't think there's a category for "just memories". As for Vanitas's Sentiment, I believe it is stated in the Ultimania what he is, though I don't remember what it says.05:20, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm still opposed to the Ultimania calling him a non-Unversed for blatantly obvious reasons. There should be a category or class for Sentiments. As I've explained in the VS talk page, I had given my explanations about a Sentiment: As observed, Sentiments appear to be the powerful lingering emotions and memories of a person either crystallized in physical form or inhabiting a sufficient shell of sorts to contain and sustain them. Sorta like a ghost and like a ghost, they are bound to the living world by either an unfinished task or rage. They also retain the powers from where these memories originate. It's safe to say that their powers are also directly influenced by their emotional states and such. LS's intense hatred towards Xehanort fuels his incredible power, so much that it also influences his Keyblade, too, causing it to take on a multitude of forms not seen from Terra. When not thinking of Xehanort, LS remains inert and doesn't move an inch until provoked with a single thought. Vanitas Sentiment spawned from the lingering emotions of a creature born raw of all of the things associated with evil. Vanitas was evil to the core and Vanitas Sentiment's power was fueled by that negativity. However, what made VS seemingly stronger than LS was that there was nothing to offset Vanitas' negative emotions. Lingering Sentiment was offset by his hope and concern for Ventus and Aqua. VS had none of that, only fueled by the desire for destruction.

Of course, this is just my hypothesis. It's not official, but it's what I've gathered from my observations Kaihedgie 05:34, June 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Technically speaking, the symbol is not associated with beings with body + soul + heart, but is just the official "Other" symbol, to go along with the Heartless and Nobody symbols. --  Neumannz ,  The Dark Falcon  05:36, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

"The Lingering Sentiment is by far the hardest boss in Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix and was arguably one of the hardest bosses in the series, having no real match until Vanitas's Sentiment in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep" <- What? Vanitas's Sentiment was a wimp, yet LS is a b/tch. 71.65.103.166 04:29, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

VS was far quicker than Lingering Sentiment, could bring your HP to critical in one strike or kill you outright, no matter how much HP you had and wouldn't take any damage at all unless you were at a high enough level. Only two of VS' attacks could be blocked. You can block all of LS's attacks, with or without Reflega. Kaihedgie 04:38, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

English name?
I suppose we'll get an official translation with BBS, but "Todomarishi" doesn't mean "to linger" as in "to remain as a remnant", but "to linger" as in "to stop moving" - which fits the boss's situation. Just food for thought, I don't at all suggest moving the page at this point in time. Glorious  CHAOS!  15:08, August 27, 2010 (UTC)