User talk:ShadowsTwilight

Yeah, more or less.--ShadowsTwilight 23:55, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

i'd actually like zexion with the quote "Your hopes are nothing but a mere illusion"--ShadowsTwilight 16:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

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VS Keyblade
It appeared to be a simple black and white of Vanitas's Keyblade, but I see what you did now. However, it's still completely unneccesary - by the very nature of Absent Silhouettes (which the Sentiment appears to be), it's the same Keyblade, and we do pages for forms, not individual Keyblades - there's no "Roxas's Kingdom Key", "Sora's Kingdom Key" set of pages. This could maybe go as a gallery entry on the main V's K page, if you can get a better crop. Glorious  CHAOS!  17:28, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I really don't like that you reuploaded the image before getting a response, though. Glorious  CHAOS!  17:28, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

First off, the Sentiment appears to be a Silhouette (speculation), second of all the silhouettes weapons and the other forms of the keyblades were the exact same as the others. this one is completely recolored and it has a different keychain, so it seems to be a different keyblade to me. and as for you not liking what i did with the uploading, suck it up. ShadowsTwilight 17:33, April 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Might I suggest just adding the VS's Keyblade's description to the Design section on Vanitas's Keyblade? See Frozen Pride and Frozen Pride+? The Keyblade doesn't really warrant its own article, but it's worth mentioning.-- Lapis of the Night  17:37, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

In that case, why don't we merge vanitas and vanitas's sentiment?ShadowsTwilight 17:38, April 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * I recall you doing this same thing with Lea's page, suggesting that we merge Roxas and Sora. Weapons are not the same thing as characters. Vanitas is a separate being with a role in the story, while VS is a secret boss with many similarities and differences to Vanitas. The Keyblades, on the other hand, only differ in color and (apparently, I for one can't see very much of the Keychain at all) their Keychains. They are used in exactly the same way.-- Lapis of the Night  17:42, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

a) that was sarcasm. b) the same argument could be made for some of the days weapons yet they are all considered different weapons (and rightfully so) what makes this any different. they arent even wielded by the same being. (p.s. you have to look real colse but i guarantee the keychains are different) ShadowsTwilight 17:48, April 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I don't see what you mean about the Days weapons. Could you elaborate on that?-- Lapis of the Night  17:50, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

for example, true light's flight and darker than dark. the only difference between them is there colors, and they are two different weapons ShadowsTwilight 17:51, April 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah, those are made by using different Gears (the Wild Gear and Hazard Gear, respectively), have different abilities, and different stats. For Vanitas' and VS' Keyblades, however, we don't have any stats or any indication from the way they are used that they have different capabilities.-- Lapis of the Night  17:54, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * As I had said, if it's anything like the Absent Silhouettes, then VS literally is Vanitas's Keyblade, come to life. There is also absolutely no difference between the "two" Keyblades, except that the VS Keyblade has had the colors removed - it even has the same shading. There's no information besides that to be put on the article. Glorious  CHAOS!  04:30, April 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * What the hell are you talking about? the absent silhouettes weren't the weapons come to life. where are you getting that?ShadowsTwilight 23:45, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

I believe that was how Demyx introduced it in the extra (unvoiced) cutscene in Final Mix II. --Neumannz 04:00, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Even if that is true, we have no proof that vs is an absent silhouette, other that it's little orb form looks slightly similar. i do not think speculation is a valid argument. ShadowsTwilight 11:23, April 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * In that case, what proof do you have that they are in any way different weapons, aside from their color schemes? We don't have that much information on either weapon, so why would VS's Keyblade warrant its own page? It would make more sense to just merge the two. Also, notice how we didn't make a page for the Lingering Sentiment's Keyblade, even though that was a secret boss' weapon too.-- Lapis of the Night  19:46, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe we should have. Under that argument, maybe we shouldn't have pages for MX's keyblade, or ME's keyblade, or even vanitas's himself. ShadowsTwilight 23:06, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * What? Why wouldn't we need articles for those Keyblades? Those are all unique weapons (except perhaps Vanitas's) used by actual characters, not just a secret boss with a palette swap of Vanitas's weapon.-- Lapis of the Night  23:58, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

If you make a page you've gotta be able to defend why it should stay, but sure, that's a good idea, make a forum and put up a poll.-- Lapis of the Night  00:41, April 13, 2010 (UTC)