Talk:Samurai

Controlled by Roxas?
They have been said that are roxas's nobodies, but I don't think that's accurate. why would they've attacked roxas while he was escaping the castle that never was in 358/2 Days. I think it's the organization that controls them, either Saix or Xemnas, and they just have the nobodies follow that organazation member. That way if a member betrays the organization, they can't control they're nobodies. there's further proof of this in CoM, as no nobodies appeared in that, and Saix knew that they betrayed the organization, as shown in 358/2 days. animalbrad 20:48, April 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not so sure, but remember when Roxas went to face Sora in his awakening, when Sora was in The World That Never Was? Samurai were blocking Donald and Goofy so that Roxas could fight Sora. I think that's proof. The Yoshiman 97 20:56, April 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * The members of Organisation XIII all had a common nobody connected to them, the ones alive in KH II anyway. Luxord had Gamblers, Xaldin had Dragoons, for example and the nobodies connected to Roxas were Samurai. I believe the connection meant command as the members were the strongest of the Nobodies.


 * I thought about that as well. Maybe it was some kind of block, that was released when roxas rejoined with sora. saix/xemnas wouldn't of know that Roxas would regain control of his nobodies, as none of them had rejoined before, and xion never had a type of nobody. it is possible that xion had control over them as well. or it could be possible that, because nobodies themselves can think and plan, when Roxas went renegade they tried to stop him, because if roxas left, they organization would have no use for them animalbrad 21:07, April 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Interesting, but I would suggest that Xemnas and possibly Saix could override his control over them as the other nobodies keep going despite their "master" dying. Roxas would have used all of his power in the fight so he could have taken back control. I would also think the lower levels of nobody to be largely mindless- the dusk confusing photos with Roxas. The unsigned post above was me too... Psycho Mick 21:15, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

The Journal entry for them in KHII and Days explicitly says that they are controlled by Roxas.-- Lapis of the Night  21:19, April 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * As it stands, I do beilevie that xemnas can do it, as there were dancers, demyx's nobodies, directly after the saix fight. animalbrad 21:46, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Regardless of personal opinions the only confirmed, canon material we have is that Samurai are under the control of Roxas; everything outside of that claim is speculation.-- Xion 4  ever  22:05, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * What I honestly believe is that the Samurais are controlled by Roxas, but Roxas turned on the Organisation, and as you know what lesser Nobodies do (they pledge allegiance to the Organisation at all costs), there you get your full story. 02:03, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

The Samurai Nobodies were not the only Nobodies to turn against their leader. The Assassins have done the same to Axel Kaihedgie 02:21, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

This doesn't have anything to do with improving the article, so why not take this to a forum?-- Lapis of the Night  02:31, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed, guys. Cut and paste where necessary. 03:02, April 14, 2010 (UTC)