Talk:Xion

I believe we can tell what Xion looks like by the second pic. I think we're fine with just one or two.XienZo 23:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Theory
This is a theory, this has nothing to do with the article. Could it be possible that Xion is Kairi's TRUE nobody. I mean, it may sound weird cause Namine is her nobody, but could it be possible that she is the other half of Namine? Squallinoa 08 03:06, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * She could be Kiari's unbirth... or her version of a heartless given the black hair... Maybe she's just a freak clone of kiari Xheanort created during his expariemants..... I like the last one :)


 * I think she is Kairi´s second nobody because Kairi´s Heart changed place two times.the first time when she passed it to Sora on Destiny Islands.The second time when Sora stabbed himself with the dark keyblade and released his and Kairi´s Heart wich was when Naminé and Roxas where born.


 * This makes Sense think of this
 * There is Sora and Roxas.. but also Ven
 * There is Kairi and Naminé.. but also Xion


 * Well, what I see...
 * There is Sora and Roxas... but also Ven
 * There is Kairi and Naminé... but also Aqua... but also Xion...


 * We know Nomura has a thing for the number 3.


 * I've posted a theory about this somewhere else, but I think Naminé is the odd one out here. Sora is to Roxas as Kairi is to Xion. Naminé's already an exception to the nobody rule. Summon:WALL•E 05:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Could it be possible for a person to have two nobodies?? Squallinoa 08 01:19, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure? Why not? If Sora had 2 hearts with him, he'd make two nobodies. Thats what I think. Summon:WALL•E 01:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * if thats true,Xion was made first. 86.154.143.242 12:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Then how do you explane Roxas? 204.49.209.110 13:26, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * This Thoery is very clever but alas, it can't be true. Yes, Kairi's heart is released twice, once on Destiny Islands and once when Sora stabbed himself with the dark keyblade. But through most of the first game, Kairi's body is in a comatose state, not a Nobody. Weither or not it was because she's a Princess of Heart and her body can't leave the Relm of Light or because her heart didn't make a Heartless doesn't make a diffrence. My guess is that she is Kairi's Unbirth because she has connections with Kairi ans Naminé and that really the only thing she could be. Xnaminex 19:56 January 2 2009 (UTC)
 * Technically, a second nobody could form through the "loophole" that Naminé did, which wouldn't require Kairi's body. The problem with her being a unbirth is that it'd require a person to play Birth By Sleep to UNDERSTAND 358/2 Days, which would be rather unfair. XienZo 01:19, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

I think she isnt even a nobody i think namine made her out of the memories of Sora, Kairi and Namine herself it would explain y shes friends with Xion and why Xion looks like Kairi and why Xion and wield the Kingdom Key thats my theory

Is namine not made of BOTH sora & kairi? Therefore could xion not be her nobody & namine be a combination? Hence namine having the power over sora's memories while looking like kairi. In short: Xion = Kairi's nobody Roxas = Sora's nobody Namine = Both Sora & Kairi's nobody After all she is the exception to the rule!!!


 * http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/kingdomhearts/images/5/56/Kairi-Normal-Live.gif
 * kingdomhearts kairi
 * [[Image:Paopu Fruit.jpg|26px]]Um.... actually, Xion isn't a nobody or a heartless or an unbirth. She's an unperfect "replica" of Sora, created by Xemnas from his memories in case Xemnas plans didn't work. She looks like Kairi because Sora was thinking of Kairi the moment she was created. Because shes a replica of Sora but she was created from his memories of Kairi, she doesnt have a gender(she isnt a boy but she also isnt a girl :P -_-'). So, lol, Roxas = Soras nobody, Namine = Kairis nobody and Xion = Soras replica.[[Image:Paopu Fruit.jpg|26px]]

I have a theory,even though it is not true, but since kairi had no darkness at all in her,maybe she created two nobodies insted of 1,wait,according to kh physics,thats impossible-Iownedsephorothatlvl5

Name Change
Shouldn't it be Organization XIV now? Did Xemnas get lazy? --Blue Highwind 22:06, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomura specifically stated the name stays ORG XIII for a reason to be revealed in 358/2 days. XienZo 22:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I bet it's because the guy who engraved organisation XIII everywhere refused to change it to XIV.  Myself 123  12:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Plus, 13 is unlucky. Thats why it's so bad ass! 14? Psh. Thats just some spoiled girls birthday where she gets a car. 9__9

um..........................................that's fifteen. XV. get it, got it, good. DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS 23:15, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 13+1=15? XienZo 01:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

no...i think hes talking about a hispanic tradition about when girls turn fifteen, they get cars for their birthdays. DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS 05:26, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

The reason that xemnas didn't change the organization's name is because Xion is being kept agenst her will! It kinda mentions that in the japenese comerical thingys...

ur theory
its exactly what i believe and u see i have prof if u pay attention u understand that everything is connected our hearts r 1 as r the worlds u see becuz of destiny islands and sora piercing his heart to release kairi's heart it created 2 seprete nobodies namine and xion u see kairi never lost her heart she gave it to sorry but still her body was lost which made xion and when sora released her heart it created roxas and nomine u see

I can barely understand what you just typed. Guardian Soul 13:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Hookt on fonix werkt fer me! (lol)

According to the "Another Report" and Ansem Reports, when a Nobody is destroyed, it goes back to its original form (provided the Heart is not in Heartless form). Kairi should be good to go. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  06:46, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Just a thought...
Shouldn't we use this pic (Xion pic) instead, so Xion's page/image matchs the pages of the other Org.XIII members? Belinda-Rikku 22:04, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * the quality sucks. Gte a smoother picture. --Zack fair 007 00:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, it'd probably look better than lets say, the Roxas picture once you shrink it down. I think that picture will do for now. XienZo 01:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's anything wrong with that pic. Dr.Kermit ( The Doctor is in ) 23:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Considering we don't have any nice, hi-res images from 328/2 Days yet, that's pretty bloody good. Go for it. BebopKate 04:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, once I shrink it a bit (and try to fix the quality, I guess... sort of hard for me to do when I have no clue what's so bad about the quality in the first place...) I'll put it up. (BTW, "Zack fair", there is no need to be rude, m'kay?) Belinda-Rikku 04:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't you tell me what to be. That picture is NOT going on that page as long as I'm here --Zack fair 007 04:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Dude. WTF. I did NOT tell you what to be. I only said there is no need to be rude. Because there certainly isn't. I don't know what your problem is, with me. I also have no idea what your problem is with the pic. However, I seem to have the approval/go-ahead from two staff members. I'm sorry if I somehow rub you the wrong way, but I have no clue what the big beef here is. I did say I'd try to fix the pic up a bit. If this is really such a big deal to you, then please, take it to a staff member. I don't mind. But I don't want to deal with someone I don't even know biteing my head off. Belinda-Rikku 04:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Learn some grammar, ok? you said "I DIDN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO BE... DON'T BE RUDE!" fucking idiot. The picture is ugly, and unless you fix it up REAL good, its not going up there. don't take some shit u probably don't even know about up with me. you got it? I'm sorry we had to meet under these circumstances. But still, i cant believe were working on a shit picture, and we have a high quality one right there. SO YEAH --Zack fair 007 04:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You know, my grammer is pretty fine, actually. That is not what I said, nor how I said it. I don't see what is wrong with the damn picture, and you telling me that it's "ugly" or "shit" does not tell me what the fuck your damn problem with it is. I'm working on fixing it "real good". (and you have a problem with my grammer? Don't even MAKE me rip apart every little wrong thing with everything you've said above.) I was working very hard to hold my temper, because I don't like to pull out what I'm going to call "Super b*tch" on random strangers. But if someone like you is going to give me a hard time, on a fu**ing wiki site, for pete's sake... really. You don't own this friggin' site. You aren't even a staff member. And I have the approval of at least one (and I think it's TWO) STAFF MEMBERS. SO YEAH! If you have a problem with all of this (which you obviously do!) TAKE IT UP WITH A STAFF MEMBER, THEN! Belinda-Rikku 04:53, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally, I find this Xion pic better. It's a full body shot like the others. Also, the Xion pic we use now (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Xion) is of worse quality. Also: Grammar and spelling. It's not a race. Mistakes are fine, but take the time to type out what you want to say. (Same to anyone else reading this)
 * You know, Zack fair... never mind. I will take it to a staff member. But I'm not going to bother replying to you again. It's not worth my time or my stress. Belinda-Rikku 05:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

WTF? KHPEIDA FLAME WAR?!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo *Runs out of breath* *Inhales* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... You were bei--Zack fair 007 01:50, 12 December 2008 (UTC)ng rude Zack... knock it off.71.253.13.185 21:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

the pic is already up, don't call me rude, i already apologized.

Um yeah, already done and over with. And... why the page stretching? Belinda-Rikku 03:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, a point of advice, zack fair, if you don't learn to behave, you could get kicked off the site. Rock2060 14:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/575/4525698rg7.jpg I changed the pic to this (a few days ago ^^' ). It's smaller, but with a better quality. --Unbirth 20:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Xion's Name
I thought so too. But it's pronounced Shi-on. Like Mar-lu-sha.

Name Theory

Xion = No I

As in Xion is a nobody that never had a heartless counterpart.

But another theory is that Kairi can have many nobodies because she is a Princess of Heart.

Please don't post your fucking theories HERE. go put it on Khinsider. theories can't be used on a wiki. --Zack fair 007 05:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't be so negative... there's no major problems if you post it HERE, just don't post them in the actual article. Longer theories should go on userpages and stuff. XienZo 07:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)


 * No. This is a TALKPAGE. we talk about the page, and stuff about the person. Not sharing dumb theories that make no sense. --Zack fair 007 21:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, technically, the theories are on-topic (about Xion). I suppose they don't contribute much, but there's no need to make a fuss when they show up. XienZo 03:07, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I did say I wasn't sure if this was the right place. - Billylemmon 18:19, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

You know what, Xienzo is right. Oh and by the way, a really obvious fact about her name is that you can spell ion, an irregular form of a compound, the mixture of 2+ compounds. That is somewhat symbolic seeing that the elements that make up a human are a heartless and a nobody. So...

Heartless + Nobody = Human

If Xion, Namine, and Kairi are part of that case,

Xion + Namine = Kairi

THis could not be the case although, if in fact, Kairi's Heartless was actually created when her heart left Sora's body, thus creating Xion, Namine, AND Roxas. Roxas is Sora's Nobody, Namine is Kairi's Nobody, but where does Xion fit in all of this? She could very well be a special Heartless, being Sora's, but looking like Kairi, formed by Kairi's heart leaving Sora's body.

But, as that person with no name said, Kairi is a Princess of Heart, so she could have created 2 Nobodies, instead of creating a heartless and a Nobody, creating

Nobody + Nobody = Human or Xion + Namine = Kairi

But, the fact that Sora DID become a heartless combined with the fact that His and Kairi's Heart were in Sora's body, The

Xion + Namine + Roxas = Sora + Kairi

theory is somewhat plausible.

Please, tell me if any of this makes sense or not, and I will change it. Thanks to all who do! Also, If this REALLY isn't where this belongs, I will post it on KHInsider. DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS 05:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * [[File:Kairi-Normal-Live.gif]]
 * kingdomhearts kairi
 * Paopu Fruit.jpg + Namine = Kairi with Sora memories(or a Sora that looks like Kairi LOL!) xD. Xions a replica of Sora not Kairis heartless lol oganization XIII would never let a heartless become a member of the organization.Paopu Fruit.jpg


 * Well, no one will complain if you put theories on your user page. XienZo 06:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

BTW, Xion is pronounced as Shion. -User:OrangeGel
 * In Japan. They also pronounce Xigbar with an S instead of a Z sound. XienZo 04:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I personally think Xion's name will be pronounced "shion" in English too (I'm looking at Marluxia's name as a base; pronounced "mar-lew-sha" and not "mar-lew-zee-ah"). Either way, we'll find out when the game is released. LapisScarab 22:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

This may be a coincidence, but in the Bloody Roar game series, there is a character called Xion the Unborn. Dr.Kermit ( The Doctor is in ) 17:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Her name could be an anagram of 'Ino' with an X added, just to keep up with the characters having Japanese names. Kaihedgie 18:36, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I already said that, but it's good to know its not only me :) --Zack fair 007 18:39, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, with all due respect, (which isn't much), SHUT UP! Rock2060 14:07, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? Towards me ?
 * Just ignore him, he probably read the argument up above and thought you did that recently. XienZo 05:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * That makes sense as there's suspicion on whether or not she's real.  Myself 123  22:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * That's what I said, added it to the page, but that got removed. Drake Clawfang 23:23, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * She could just be made out of memories...?--User:Scarlet Avatar 10:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * [[File:Kairi-Normal-Live.gif]]
 * kingdomhearts kairi
 * Paopu Fruit.jpg lol not leaking memories of Kairi but leaking memories of SORA. In the trailer, when Namine said that "If it's connected to another memory, surely she can't endure it.", she was talking about Kairi("she"), and that if she found out that Soras memory of her("another memory") was gone she wouldn't be able to endure it :o D:.Paopu Fruit.jpg

Used Pods
In the "Mansion: Basement Corridor" area of Twilight Town, there are two pods that say something to the effect of "It seems this pod has been used before." It's been confirmed that Xion has been in a pod. I'm not sure if it's too speculative, or if we should make note of that in her trivia.-xNaminéx

I believe those pods belong to Donald and Goofy. Where did you hear that Xion has been in a pod?XienZo 03:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Well it's not confirmed, but it's a good theory. He's right about the first part - in the hallway, there's two pods that say there were Donald's and Goofy's. There's two others, that say when examined "there's evidence this has been used before", and "this hasn't been used in a while". Interesting indeed.... Drake Clawfang 03:39, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Very Interesting. And I shouldn't have said "confirmed". I'm referring to the scene in the 358/2 Days trailor when Naminé and DiZ are talking about Xion in front of a pod. So should this be put in her article? -xNaminéx

Still, They were talking about manipulating someone's memories, and Naminé said "she". I think it a reasonable assumption to say that she was talking about Xion. -xNaminéx http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/575/4525698rg7.jpg In a screenshot, Axel says she was asleep. It can be in a pod, but Naminé says "I wanted to meet you, Xion", so maybe they have never met before. --Unbirth 20:35, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Naminé sounded like she was having a very hard time reassembling Sora. Maybe Xion is a temparary holder of Sora's most important memories. Which would explain her likeness to Kairi, and the fact that many characters have implied she doesn't, or wasn't supposed to, exist. If this is true it may also be why the Organization seems to be keeping her in the organization agianst her will, so that Sora can't be complete. She'd be like the Riku Replica, but instead of remembering fake memories, she has someone else's memories; Sora's. In order of Troisnyxetienne's facts, it would be:

If I get many or this right I'll probably pass out. -xNaminéx
 * Xion resembles Kairi because most of Sora's important memories revolve around Kairi.
 * Naminé wasn't allowed to mean Xion like she wasn't allowed to mean Roxas.
 * DiZ and Naminé could had that disscssion before she was released meaning that the leaking memories were being transfered to Xion at that moment.
 * Riku spent his year with DiZ and Naminé to make sure Sora would wake up. He wants Xion to "get back into her real self" because she possesses Sora's memories.
 * The "fake" Keyblade baffles me to no end. Riku may be playing mind games with Xion to make her want to return to Sora?
 * Already explained.
 * An artificial body was put into a pod, the leaked memories were transfered into it, and the body came out as Xion. The reason Xion doesn't look exactly like Kairi is because not 100% of Sora's important memories are of Kairi, meaning Xion would have small qualities of other people, like her "dark" appearance comes from Sora's important memories of Riku and her her ability to weild the Kingdom Key comes from Sora's memories of himelf.

Here's my proof
http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/images/famitsu21.jpg

New Theory
Drake Clawfang was really close! As we know now, Xion is made from Sora's leaked memories (which he got right). However, we also know that she is not a Nobody. I'd like to give thumbs up to Drake Clawfang! His theory turned out to be true. :) HealerSpirit 09:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm good aren't I? Heh heh.... Doreiku Kuroofangu 10:31, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Rip off!!!!!
Me (xion) and my brother (axl) were using the screen names xion and axl for years before kingdom hearts came out. Some game desingers saw us on the net and stole our names.--208.118.200.168 19:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC) xion.

Are you cereal? Are you coco puffs cereal? Part of this nutritional breakfest? The name Axel sounds like it isn't THAT uncommon. Seriously, stop being such a loser... You're probably like a 5 year old or something!

Dude, don't be stupid. It's not funny OR cool. Besides, there is another video game character named Xion. I'm not sure what game he's from, but his full name is "Xion the Unborn." DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS 15:00, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

it can't be a addicent(i have bad spelling)but when they use my name(katie)i'll believe this isn't a addicent

deal with it druggieD.Dark. 17:48, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Kairi's Keyblade
I think Xion has some sort of connection to the Keyblade Riku gave Kairi.

Saturday-04-apr-2009: Charmed-Jay

I understand why one would think that, but what would the connection possibley be? It's already been shown that Xion's canon ketblade is the Kingdom Key. -xNaminéx

Kingdom hearts in the sky !!!!
When you look at the picture of Xion in the section ´´Here is my proof´´ you can see Kingdom Hearts in the top right corner ?

We know that Roxas entered the Organisation before Xion, and it means that the theory about kairi´s heart could make two nobodies useless.For that theory to work Xion had to be born before Roxas and she didn´t so guess its Proof: 1 Guess: 0

Powers?
I once did a picture of what Xion's attribute might be. The closest could be mirrors and reflection. This is probably because Xion looks like Kairi and she has a Kingdom Key of her own. Plus, I think it would be cool. Another possibility is Sound, She can create sonic vibrations. Another is Metal She can probably turn herself into metal and finally like Saix rises with the moon, Xion could rise with the sun. What do the rest of you think? Winxfan1 14:13, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
 * Why would she do any of that when her attribute is given as light?—Urutapu 23:55, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Since when is Xion's power Light. Do you have any proof? Also, I saw the Extra's section of KH 358/2 Days and Donald Goofy And Xion are Secret Playable Characters. Winxfan1 00:02, 30 May 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
 * ...Exactly why did you bring up Donald and Goofy? ...And I'd be looking up the magazine scan that says it if any of the big fansites would work algajdgbjag—Urutapu 05:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And here it is! Both Xion and Roxas are shown with the attribute "光" (light).—Urutapu 05:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok. In my fanfic she had the power of Mirrors.Winxfan1 12:14, 30 May 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

Keyblade
I don't suppose anyone else was thinking that Roxas's ability to dual-wield could be related to Xion’s Keyblade.
 * Wow. That's actually pretty cool. I agree --Zack fair 007 21:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I dont get it either. --Kairi4evr 00:05, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Absorbed by Roxas?
If it is already out in Japan why isn´t there any wideo fotage on youtube or other channels ?

My bad, just found it at first try =)

should probably be sourced and accurately confirmed.

also it seems to be a bit to soon after release to have gotten that far completed.

Xion isn't absorbed. All the video of the death shows is that she turned into crystals, and the memories floated up into the air and away, rather than Roxas taking any of it in.

Xion's English Voice

 * [[File:Kairi-superhappy.jpg]]
 * kingdomhearts kairi
 * Paopu Fruit.jpg. omg! OMG!!!!! :D :D :D ^u^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thanks!....and I think I might know whos voice her voice is like.... KAIRI! :o HER VOICE SOUNDS LIKE KAIRIS VOICE! I think it might be because she was created from Soras memories of Kairi, so she has Kairis voice.... :P :oPaopu Fruit.jpg

Where have I seen this before?
I'm just thinking... Xion's story kind of resembles that of another famous character from square... They both belonged to a organization, found out about the terrible experiments behind their birth, went insane, deserted the organization and tryed to destroy they're former comrades... I swear, this is so familiar! But that's just my opinion!--Kai Maciel 19:54, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Original Name proof, please.
Original name = No. I, as in Number 1? DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS 03:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

technically her true name would be S.O.R.A.But we've already got one of those.
 * Why would it technically be Sora? She isn't Sora's nobody, she's a puppet. Guardian Soul 03:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

she isn't a nobody at all. she's a clone. of sora.

or I means "Me" instead of "One"

Well, I guess you're right. After all Roxas wasn't originally named Roxas either, he was named by Xemnas when he first found him. So I guess he named Xion from Number I.

I think the captial wasn't put in there for a reason. It's not "No. I", it's "No. i". If you know your math, you know that "i" is an imaginary number; that is, a number that's not real. That's more fitting, I think.

So many questions
I don't get it, it said that if Xion absorbs Roxas, then Sora's memory restoration would cease completely, but when Roxas absorbs Xion, it works the same. How come? It's like no matter who absorbs the other one, the result would be the same. And how long has Sora been sleeping exactly? I remember in Kingdom Hearts II, while Naminé was restoring his memory, the database first said "Restoration at 12%" before further progressing. Did something happen? Did they re-do the process or something?

And why did Roxas fall asleep for weeks instead of never waking up, since Sora is already sleeping?

And why is it that they didn't merge Roxas with Sora once they captured him? After all, Ansem said they needed one another to be able to be complete. If that really was true, then why did Ansem lock him up in that Digitized Twilight Town?

And how exactly did Xemnas create Xion via Sora's leaked memories? Was it like, Xemnas gathered memories from Sora's lost heart?

I don't understand your first point but for your second, why would Roxas never wake up? The reason DiZ didn't merge Roxas and sora immediately was that sora needed to recover his memories first Well, during the superboss fight in final mix, Xemnas walks through sora and images from the game flash on screen. presumably She was created then.67.76.40.218 21:43, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Xion's title
We know almost everything about Xion except one: Her Title. Everyone in Organization XIII had a title. What is Xion's?Winxfan1 13:00, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

Really. Interesting.Winxfan1 14:08, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

That plan backfired and Roxas ended up absorbing Xion. WHich would explain how he could weild two keyblades. But which would be Oathkeeper and which would be Oblivion?Winxfan1 16:46, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

organization didn't namechange because Xion isn't a Nobody.And at a rough guess i'd say Xion's keyblade was the oathkeeper one.(just a guess)

Something is missing
Well maybe the reason they mock her is that she isn't a real nobody but an imperfect clone of Sora.Or maybe it's because she's new.--74.160.160.122 17:48, 8 June 2009 (UTC)Goma107

Gender
She doesn't have a gender, does she? We already know she looks female only because Sora's strongest memory was Kairi, not that she was one herself. Sora's strongest memory could have been a special pencil he lost, and that's what she would have looked like. So, being a Sora clone, that either makes her male. If not, just genderless, seeing as her component are memories, and memories don't have any title to go by. She changes forms as well. Why was that erased from the article, then?

They actually do have genders, considering that they take after who they were before. A Nobody is the leftover body and soul. They might not exist, but that doesn't mean they don't have a sex to go by. The production team labeled her as a "she", because, obviously, they are not going to spill the game and say she's genderless or a male, due to her being a Sora clone made of his memories. The point is, whether she identifies herself or not as a "she", and she's been that way for most of her stay, the factual reality of it is that "she's"...not. She looks the way she does because of Kairi being Sora's strongest memory. What if it was a beach ball that was his strongest memory? Or a boat? Or even a palm tree? Will she be a "she" then? The thing wasn't really wrong, honestly.

I dont think she has a gender,and because she is a memory being she doesnt even truly have form.Roxas and few other who are connected to a certain "apecial" person see her as xion.Other see her simply with her hood on and Xigbar sees her as ven.When riku saw her for the first time he already saw her as sora,because this form is her true nature,she IS Sora´s clone after all.that also explains why her body seems to change from a female to a male in one blink of an eye during the scene shortly before the battle against her.

Guys, I'm going to have to disagree on this. I see Xion as female. She may be a clone/replica of Sora, but she's an -imperfect- clone/replica. And memories themselves may be genderless, but the people in memories aren't genderless. Had Xion been a, *cough* beach ball, or whatever, then yes, she would be genderless as beach balls have no gender. But she's not. She's a Kairi-alike, and last I knew, Kairi was a female. Thus, Xion should be female. *Raises up flame-protective shield* Belinda-Rikku 17:54, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Xion / Ven
Can anyone tell me where to find the video where xion transforms into ven? and how do you know that its ven and not roxas?
 * She doesn't transform, Xigbar just sees her as Ven in his mind. And you can tell it's Ven because he's wearing Ven's armor and clothing. 01:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

i realize that and i misunderstood about the ven and roxas thing because i thught it was another vid but can u tell me where i can see the video of this scene? Justo go on youtube type in sumthin like...."xion is ven?" i think the video was...well. thers hundreds of copies from different youtube users. same stuffs tho.

Xion a he-she?!?
well,xion in my opinion is either a he-she or genderless-Iownedsephorothatlvl5

Fake Key
I am so through with this Fake Key crap, just find out Xion's title and make up mind, will'ya?
 * We're going to have to wait until September, when the English translation for her title is released. Until then, any name will be fallacious. Glorious  CHAOS!  00:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * According to the Japanese Wikipedia, she has no title (and why would she?), hence the "None."—Urutapu 01:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Voice

 * She retains her original voice. She just changes appearance. On a side note, hearing Sora speak in a girl's voice is the craziest mental image I've ever gotten. JudgmentDay95 20:32, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Aster tataricus
Anybody know where　I can find the newest Days interview (the one that talks about Aster tataricus) in Japanese? I want to verify it, because of what I said on this page's history　(”reword and remove the 100% wrong Aster tataricus note (the "shion" for this flower means "purple garden", and the Japanese name for forget-me-not is wasurenagusa.").—Urutapu 19:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Aha! I knew it! Nomura said giving someone Aster tataricus means "I won't forget you" (the same way yellow roses show friendship). Not the forget-me-not flower. Crazy Heartstation :|—Urutapu 19:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

There's a need for an update. That interview in itself has confirmed and shown things that are now wrong in the article. For example, Roxas absorbing Xion. That wasn't the case. He just inherited her Keyblade.

Not a Nobody
I noticed that that when you open the "nobodies" template thing it mentions Xion under Organization XIII. Considering the fact that Xion isn't a nobody do you think she should be taken off the template?--ShadowsTwilight 16:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I would say yes. JudgmentDay95 20:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

she is sort of an organization member and we don't have a template for that on it's own.

Sora.. OR Roxas?
There seems to be sufficient amounts of information in the secret reports to suggest that although Xion is full of Sora's memories, she is in fact a Replica of Roxas, not Sora. Has anyone else looked into this?

"The nobody of the hero, and that nobody’s replica, Xion." -Day 276: The Other Side of the Truth (Axel)

It says in this article that she is absorbed by Roxas thats not true,she returns to Sora she even says so herself,i´ve seen the scene and she never is absorbed by Roxas she dissolves into many bits of light and shards of crystals/ice wich fly away-kaialone14


 * Wait until the English version comes out before jumping to any conclusions. JudgmentDay95 12:46 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I thought Xion is Sora's imperfect Replica why its Roxas? I mean Xion have Sora's memories and his face. Cococrash11

Xion is Sora's Imperfect Replica not Roxas. Beside the Secret Report sometime isn't correct. You said the Secret Report in Day 276 Xion is Roxas's replica well look at Day 255: Final Stages Author: Xemnas it read "Xion's appearance should vary based on the relation of the viewer to her. Saïx sees her simply as a puppet. The Program approaches completion. Through Roxas, Xion is assembling a copy of the hero of the Keyblade. As proof, she sometimes appears to take on his form to my eyes" Cococrash11

Lefty!
Sephiroth is left-handed. --68.190.210.240 06:55, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Xion's True, True Name
Shouldn't it Say 'Sora Replica No. i'? After all, the replica of Riku is not called 'Riku', it's called 'Riku Replica'.

Stop in Confusion
When Xion died, the restoration of Sora's memories seized at once. But before she disappeared, she said she was going back to Sora. Does that mean she died instead of going back?

It's kinda confusing. And since she did not join with Roxas like the original version of the story, then that means Roxas has always been able to use the Keyblade, right?

Charmed-Jay - September 25, 2009


 * Yes, Roxas could use the Keyblade from the get-go. Xion's existence itself was halting Sora's memory restoration, because Roxas had unwittingly leaked the "key," Sora's memories of Kairi, into her. When Xion says she is "returning to Sora," she actually "returns to Roxas." Then Roxas can wield two Keyblades: Oathkeeper (his) and Oblivion (Xion's). Then Riku-Ansem drags Roxas to DiZ, Roxas and Axel play around in the digital Twilight Town, and eventually all of Xion's and Roxas's memories return to Sora.


 * Bottom line: Sora, Roxas, and Xion are all the same person, and so their memories are all shared.

SavageLarxene011 16:35, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Who created Xion? (Theory)
Now from what I read after beating the game, and unlocking the secret notes, it became obvious to me, that the creator of Xion was Vexen. He created Replica Riku, so could it be that Replica is No. 2? Maybe. If you notice, after about the first 3 entries for Xion, is a scientist speaking. Sounds like Vexen to me. And then he stops, as if as soon as Xion was finished, Vexen was disposed of, since the Organization could now control her themselves. It is just a thought, and I still need to check if the diary entries line up with the people at Castle Oblivion getting destroyed work together. I will just have to check. But all in all, I think this is a rather probable theory. Who agrees? --Sylint19 01:33, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, yeah? It's not exactly a revelation that Vexen created "No. i". And Vexen was disposed of for various reasons by Axel. None of them relating to what Xemnas wanted. His death was an inconvenience because he was supposed to personally monitor Xion. Interobangu 08:45, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, when Xion fades, she sort of freezes, or turns into ice/crystal things. It seems like Vexen created her from Ice/crystal, or at least that's what I think :P - Ice boy Svalur! 08:52, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Either Vexen or Xemnas created her altough im pretty sure its Vexen.D.Dark. 17:51, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Vexen created her under Xemnas' orders. She was made from Sora's memories, the basis of her body. Born w/ a blank face, she only grew to look like Kairi as Sora's memories flowed into her. - EternalNothingnessXIII 19:23, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Xion/Roxas Relaitionship?
So, I have a few points I'de like to make:

Xion is made from Sora's memorys of Kairi. Kairi has romantic feelings for Sora. So, Xion might have harboured romantic feelings for Sora had they ever met. Roxas is Sora's nobody. So is it possible Xion harboured romantic feelings for Roxas? And since Roxas is Sora's nobody, and Sora has romantic feelings for Kairi, he could like her back.

The one flaw I see in this theory is that Sora may not have known Kairi had feelings for him atthe time of Xion's birth, so his memorys of her wouldn't contain that. I haven't played 358/2 days or read plot details from that, so I'm sorry if that contains information on the subject.-Coroxn-The Lunar Brigade


 * While I suppose anything is possible, I don't recall any scenes from the game that would indicate that they were attracted to each other. Plus, Xion's gone now, so it kinda renders the whole thing moot. LapisScarab 21:12, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

You do know this is the equivalent of loving yourself, right? Xion's not even a true female.

Replica of Roxas, and not Sora?
The article currently states that "Xion is an imperfect Replica of Sora." However, in the Secret Report for Day 276, it reads:

"As the Nobody of the hero of the Keyblade and the Replica of that Nobody, those two are special. Unique in every sense of the word. But that doesn't change the fact that we're friends. Nothing will. Got it memorized, Xion?"

The first sentence seems to imply that Xion is a Replica of Roxas, and not Sora. It is also stated in-game that Xion was meant to imitate Roxas's behavior. Also, she was not created from Sora's memories; she was created in the same fashion that Riku-Replica was, by Vexen, according to the Secret Report for Day 23:

"The Program is largely on target. No. i, my finest Replica, has proven an even greater success than anticipated. I intend to take the other vessel - judged unfit for number status - to Castle Oblivion, where I will subject it to further testing. One thing is clear: could these Replicas not be classified as a special sort of Nobody?"

The final sentence also suggests that Xion actually is a Nobody, contrary to what the article currently says.

75.27.230.249 22:46, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I thought Xion is Sora's imperfect Replica why its Roxas? I mean Xion have Sora's memories and his face. Cococrash11

Xion is Sora's Imperfect Replica not Roxas. Beside the Secret Report sometime isn't correct. You said the Secret Report in Day 276 Xion is Roxas's replica well look at Day 255: Final Stages Author: Xemnas it read "Xion's appearance should vary based on the relation of the viewer to her. Saïx sees her simply as a puppet. The Program approaches completion. Through Roxas, Xion is assembling a copy of the hero of the Keyblade. As proof, she sometimes appears to take on his form to my eyes" Cococrash11

Where did they came from?
Where did they get Sora's memories to make Xion, since it seems she was born before he went to CO--Masgrande 08:56, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * From what I have gathered from the story, Xion is getting the memories from Roxas.Adam 148 13:23, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Inconsistency
Xion was not absorbed by Roxas!! How hard is it to understand?! She specifically said that she is returning to Sora! Watch her death scene in English and you'll see. She doesn't return to Roxas, but SORA. Play the game, people. Getting your facts wrong is really getting old now.


 * What do you mean being incorrect is "getting old now"? You make it sound like people are delibrately getting their facts wrong to annoy you. This may be surprising, but people make mistakes and you can correct them politely. LapisScarab 20:20, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Umm, because the game has been out for, what, a month now? I mean, come on. I'll admit that I was a bit rude and impolite, but I've been reading that incorrect statement for a long time now. And I'm probably not the only one getting annoyed by it, mind you. By the way, someone needs to unlock the editing for Xemnas so the info on Xion can be corrected.
 * She says that, but she's a Replica of Roxas, not Sora, and he's the one that gains the Keyblade when she disappears. And, apparently the memories as well, since KH2 shows us that Namine still has to recover them from Roxas. Glorious  CHAOS!  05:25, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

The thing is, when would the Organization have had time to make a replica out of Roxas? She joined right after he did. And another thing; she has Sora's memories. She DID absorb Roxas' powers, but it was through him that she had access to Sora's powers. How would she be able to absorb someones power when they're sleeping? Through Roxas she was able to do that. And Namine still needs to recover the memories from Roxas because he is Sora's Nobody and naturally has Sora's memories through the relapses. NOT A REPLICA OF ROXAS. She was supposed to absorb the Keyblade heros powers through Roxas. "Through Roxas, Xion is assembling a copy of the hero of the Keyblade." -Xemnas, Day 255. Reading the Secret Reports should really help.
 * Oh gosh, wow, I mean Vexen only created Riku Replica in the timespan of Sora climbing a floor or two, just by observing Riku once. It's so totally impossible he made Xion with the space of an entire week, isn't it? Silly Nomura.
 * Yes, and Nobodies are the ones who contain their somebody's memories. She took them from Roxas, he's the one who had them.
 * If you want to be a smartass about the Secret Reports - they specifically say "The Nobody of the Hero of the Keyblade, and that Nobody's Replica". It's fucking explicit that Xion is Roxas's Replica, and only indirectly Sora's. Glorious  CHAOS!  14:00, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Well, excuse me! So much for "you can correct people politely" from LapisScarab. You're not correcting me though, because you're wrong. I've played the game, so I think I know what I'm talking about. IF she was Roxas' replica, why would she fade back to Sora, loser? She had SORA's memories because Roxas didn't have Sora's memories. If you read Roxas' diary, he says that he doesn't remember his past life, which would be Sora. All I said was that reading the Secret Reprts should help-and I meant it in a nice way, dingbat. Just because Axel called her the Nobody's Replica doesn't mean anything. Xion belongs with Sora. Period. She is Roxas and Sora in a sense, but is Sora's imperfect replica regardless. Someone, PLEASE hear me out and help me against these annoying people!


 * Umm, for the record, Mister Anonymous-Editor-Who-Doesn't-Sign-His-Comments, Mister KrytenKoro is correct. And, also for the record, this is coming from someone who has played through 358/2 Days and read all of the Secret Reports: myself.


 * (Brace yourself for a wall of text.)


 * Xion wasn't ORIGINALLY supposed to be a Replica of Roxas. Don't argue with that, because Nomura said it in an interview. My understanding is that Xemnas, Xigbar, and Vexen collaborated on a project to replicate Sora based on the memories Xemnas sampled in KH:FM. After all, they DID need a Keyblade-wielder to collect hearts for them. However! Their plans changed somewhat when Roxas came about. He was unexpected, and they decided to make use of their situation so they would have two Keyblade-wielders working for them. Vexen created two empty Replicas, and the first was inducted into Organization XIII as Xion. At that time, Xion wasn't a Replica of anyone. However, as she spent more time around Roxas, she began to replicate him. You see, she was designed to become a Replica of Sora, but because she was never exposed to Sora (except indirectly through Roxas), she became a Replica of Roxas instead. This is why when Roxas weakens, Xion grows stronger, and vice versa. Sora is unaffected because (one) he is asleep and (two) Xion is replicating Roxas, not Sora. The only reason Xion needed to recombine with Sora was because she was inadvertently absorbing Sora's memories of Kairi using Roxas as a medium. Because she was originally intended to essentially become Sora, she was like a Sora-Memory-Magnet, if you will. So Roxas has no idea who the heck Sora is, other than some guy wearing red clothes, but Xion starts getting these random memories from Sora. She even remembers fighting Axel in Castle Oblivion. But, I digress. Your other point is that Xion said she was going to "rejoin with Sora." Yes, she did say that, but she wasn't able to join with him just then. Roxas happened to be more closeby than Sora was (and I think it also has something to do with Roxas managing not to forget about her immediately), so her entire existence (which was only made up of memories) went to Roxas instead of Sora. Although, it is also arguable that Xion considered Roxas and Sora to be the same person at that point, since she does later say "I am you, in the same way that I am Sora." Regardless, she merges with Roxas, and that is why Roxas can wield two Keyblades: Oathkeeper and Oblivion. Had she merged with Sora and not Roxas, she would not have been able to speak to Riku through the Oblivion Keyblade. Plus, the only reason Sora couldn't wake up was because he didn't have his memories of Kairi, Xion did. Roxas never had any memories of Kairi until KH2, because he had merged with Xion. DiZ needed Roxas once Xion was gone, because Roxas had absorbed Xion's being, and those precious memories of Kairi, into himself.


 * That, my friends, is the tragic tale of a Replica known as Xion. Got it memorized?

SavageLarxene011 00:42, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * To the anon: If you're going to bitch and act patronizing, I'll do it back.
 * She didn't, in any way, fade back to Sora. The memories she had of Sora went to Roxas, as seen in KH2. Her memories went to Roxas, as seen when Riku gets the shock from the Oblivion. Her powers went back to Roxas, as seen with Roxas getting the Oblivion. So your basic argument is "I totally played the game! It doesn't matter what the game actually says! Everyone but me is stupid!" Well, that's nice for you. Take your nonsense elsewhere, please. Glorious  CHAOS!  01:57, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not going to argue this anymore because, for one, I'm badly outnumbered. Which really sucks. Makes it a lot harder to have a debate when you're stuck with the wrong people. It would help if another brain could make a few points I haven't already attempted to make. When was I patronizing? That didn't make any sense. Still, despite everything written above, I'm still not convinced. When did Nomura confirm that she was Roxas' replica? Last time I checked, that wasn't the case, but whatever. Nomura did confirm that Roxas influences Sora, and Xion influences Roxas. They have a yo-yo effect. She was getting Sora's powers through Roxas because he had those same powers. The flashback Riku had was indeed carried about by Xion through Roxas. Regardless, that doesn't change my views. Why did she have Sora's memories? She was created a memory being. Namine confirmed that returning to SORA would mean she would be forgotten by everyone. At one point in the game, Axel says to think of Xion as a mirror that reflects Roxas, but when Axel 'looked' in the mirror, he didn't see Roxas. He saw Sora. Why did Roxas see her as Sora, when according to you, he should have seen himself. That's the impression I get from you. She had Sora's memories. The crystals that left her body didn't go into Roxas, but the air. And in the end, it doesn't really matter because she is Roxas the same way that she is Sora, as she herself confirmed at the end of the game. It makes me feel better to know that not everyone doesn't have the same mindset as you, and therefore, there are others bound to believe me and/or feel the same way. I don't plan on hopelessly arguing anymore anytime soon, (unless you decide to call me plenty of other names. At least I am more respectful than the lot of you)so, as of now, good riddance.
 * Play the game, people. Getting your facts wrong is really getting old now. So, yeah, you're the one who brought in the whole "annoying as fuck patronizing crap". You're not "more respectful than the lot of us", you're just more melodramatic. Get over yourself.
 * Just because Xion is the Replica of Roxas doesn't mean that she has to look like him. After all, she's not the Replica of Kairi or Ventus, but she looks like them at times. It has to do with who's looking at her and what memories she has absorbed - and she's absorbed Sora's memories, which belong to Roxas, same as with all Nobodies.
 * Roxas HAD Sora's memories, just as the other Nobodies have their somebody's memories. Xion took them, however.
 * You used annoying patronization to tell us to "read the Secret Reports", and then ignore the one actual claim within them of who she is a Replica of? What kind of twisted-ass logic is that?
 * "As the Nobody of the hero of the Keyblade and the Replica of that Nobody, these two are special." And this is coming from the one living being with direct contact with active Replicas.
 * In fact, to follow up: "But now, as I get stronger, Roxas keeps getting weaker. I shouldn't exist anymore." The implication is heavy that her existence is linked to ROXAS, not so much Sora. Her only real relation to Sora is that she has been sponging his memories, not his powers and being (like the Replica Riku tried to do with Riku).
 * Xion returned to Sora, in the end, through ROXAS. That's the whole plot of the first week as Roxas, in KHII. He finally has all the memories he was supposed to have, so Namine can put him back together with Sora.
 * The "crystals that left her body" were ice. She even starts refreezing. Vexen made here, she's made of ice. She basically shattered, liberating the stolen memories back to Roxas. Glorious  CHAOS!  04:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

You are definately wrong about the ice. It's crystals. Vexen did not make her out of ice, that's just bull. Get over this stupid arguement. In the end, she is Roxas and Sora. Good enough for you? Now shut up and leave me alone. GOOD-BYE. (At least now I know never to comment on these blasted discussion pages ever again.)
 * ...1) Ice is a type of crystal; 2) VEXEN made her, and she makes a freezing sound when she transforms back and shatters, why would it be anything about ice; 3) If you're absolutely unable to back up your argument, the patronizing just makes you look like an ass. Glorious  CHAOS!  04:00, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Coak and chest
Is it just me or should Xion’s cloak be noted further. In all her appearances when her hood was up she’s the only one who has ever had her chest shown. Everyone else has always had the collar covering their chest when the hood was up. Sooooo?--Nanohano 00:27, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Cutscence
Do you know the Snarl of Memories Cutscence? Did Roxas experince that if he didn't he should and whats the point of that cutscence?. Cococrash11

Sora or Roxas?
Can someone please tell me who's Xion is a replica of, Sora or Roxas? I played the game and Xion was said to be a replica of Sora, not Roxas. She was meant to absord Roxas to become the real Sora. Tell me with proof and specfic details.-- Ninja Sheik  18:46, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * "As the Nobody of the hero of the Keyblade and the Replica of that Nobody, these two are special. Unique in every sense of the word. But that doesn't change the fact that we're friends. Nothing will. Got it memorized, Xion?"
 * Aside from the explicitly explained, there's the fact that everything Xion has of Sora's is supposed to be Roxas's, ex: memories. This is made evident after Xion fades, and Roxas regains his power and memories of Sora. Xion is only ever said to be affecting Sora in that Namine can't find some of the memories - it's never said she took them directly from him. Given that Roxas also has the memories, and according to lore he's supposed to have pretty much all of them (CoM Sora was apparently using Kairi's shared memories with Sora, which works since he had her heart for all of KH1), and then given that Xion's nature is specifically said to make ROXAS's continued existence impossible, not Sora's (Sora will just "never wake up" because his memories are not returned - Roxas will completely cease to be), it's pretty clear that Xion is Roxas's replica. Besides, you know, the game outright saying it.
 * In short: Xion is not at all a Replica of Sora, her only connection to him is those memories of his that she has leeched from Roxas. She is a Replica of Roxas. Glorious  CHAOS!  18:54, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. But, when in the game it said that Xion is Roxas's repilcia and not Sora's? I think I understand your explaintion. I think that's why Xion took the form of Sora at the end of the game, because she had Sora's memories. But then again, I already knew that.

Anyway, can someone answer my question?-- Ninja Sheik  18:57, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * That, um, the part that I highlighted. Glorious  CHAOS!  19:29, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I rather go to a direct link, but okay. Thank you.-- Ninja Sheik  19:34, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh! I thought you just wanted the quote. That part is in the Secret Reports. Glorious  CHAOS!  20:43, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.-- Ninja Sheik  20:53, November 7, 2009 (UTC)


 * ...for the same reason that she looked like Kairi for the rest of the game? Glorious  CHAOS!  00:50, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * i think THAT might be more of a question of why Roxas does NOT look like Sora than why Xion does --Neumannz 00:53, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Okay now that we know she was a replica of Roxas why does it say in the article that she was created by Sora's leaked memories.--Masgrande 00:11, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * She was created initially from Sora's leaked memories when Sora encountered Xemnas is KHI. However, she is Roxas's replica due to the way she absorbed memories of Sora through Roxas. Adam 148 17:54, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Antagonist
If I have to readd this again, I'll be really pissed. People who slept through high-school shouldn't be trying to correct others on literary terms.

To clarify:

ANTAGONIST: a person who is opposed to, struggles against, or competes with another; opponent; adversary.

By being an (accidental) threat to Roxas's existence, and then attacking him, and specifically plotting with Namine and Riku to end his existence to save Sora, and then (if that really is Xion speaking, and not Namine) telling Riku that Roxas "must be stopped" she is EXACTLY his principal antagonist. She is most directly acting against him - not even the masterminds behind her creation do so much, as Xemnas was at several points either saying "It's okay to have two" or "I give up on Xion, save Roxas for me." Xemnas is a minor antagonist in this game, and Riku/Namine/DiZ are perhaps the only rivals for Xion's spot - and AGAIN, Xion has a much more active role in acting against Roxas.

This isn't hard, people, you just have to know what the f*** you're even talking about. Antagonist in NO WAY means "the bad guy of the story" - it can even be the good guy, such as in THIS GAME. Glorious  CHAOS!  20:51, November 7, 2009 (UTC)


 * Umm, no, not actually. She wasn't doing it to save Roxas, she was doing it because "that's where she belonged". She knew full well that they planned to return both her AND Roxas to Sora, and she went along with it, probably because it was better than the alternative (erase her best friend completely, and then be used in a plot to take over the universe). Glorious  CHAOS!  19:51, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I thought Xion and Roxas are friends? Cococrash11
 * Yes, and Sora and Riku were friends, yet Riku still managed to put that aside to do what he thought he needed to. Glorious  CHAOS!  03:28, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, Xion actually was trying to save Roxas from Xemnas by returning to Sora, saving him from being erased, and at the same, going to back to where she belonged. Two birds, one stone. She asks Axel to protect Roxas from Xemnas. Is that what you mean by not trying to save Roxas? Doubt that. And yes, she does return to Sora. In an interview, Nomura confirmed that a "small" part of Xion remained inside of Roxas that wants to stop him from coming into contact with Kingdom Hearts because she sees that Roxas will most likely lose against Xemnas. Hence the "small." If she WAS absorbed by Roxas, acording to 'some' people, all of her essence would be inside of him. Which she wasn't. Like when Roxas returned to Sora, you could SEE the crystals go into Sora; when Namine returns to Kairi, you can SEE the crystals go inside of her. Known of this "Oh, my crystals are floating in the air, but you won't see them go into Roxas out of nowhere because that's after the cutscene!" Umm, no. She specifically said she was going back to Sora, and that's exactly what she did. Xion did not contradict herself. While Xion wants Roxas to free Kingdom Hearts, she knows he's not ready yet. None of this "planning to end Roxas' existence." Namine did say that in the end, their fates were to return Sora's memories and completely fade from existence, but she wasn't plotting against him. Nomura confirmed that as well. Just like Xion wasn't plotting against Roxas when she's trying to save him. She can kind of be considered an antagonist, (in the sense that her existence puts him in danger) but she was never against Roxas. When she attacks him, (another thing Nomura confirmed)she is feeling that she has no choice but to play along with Xemnas' plan, but knows that Roxas must defeat her. Finally, Xion is not a replica of Roxas. Sorry to break it to you, but she's not. Nomura confirmed that the Replica Program was started before Roxas even joined the Organization. "Originally Vexen was working privately to advance the research on Replicas, but for the Organization's goal of completing 'Kingdom Hearts of people's hearts' they needed to use the Keyblade to recover hearts, so they switched to this plan of copying the Keyblade hero."-Nomura When Axel said "that Nobody's replica" he's meaning that Xion is made primarily to absorb Roxas' power and evolve. To think of Xion as a mirror that reflects Roxas, but when Axel looked in the mirror, he didn't see Roxas. Also, Nomura confirmed that Riku saw the 'true nature' of Xion's face at Beast's Castle, resulting in him telling her to leave the Organization. But in the bigger picture, it is actually "through Roxas" that Xion is assembling a copy of the Keyblade hero, as confirmed by Xemnas in the Secret Report. Arguing with that is like arguing with Nomura; which you can't really do and be successful afterwards.
 * "But rather than saying she was initially created to imitate something, it's more like she was a special case, born primarily to absorb Roxas' powers and evolve."
 * That is pretty basically saying that Xion is a Replica of Roxas. Yes, they started the program before Roxas joined, and yes, it was originally intended to be used on Sora. However, that's not how it turned out.
 * "This was less due to her doing missions together with Roxas every day, and more due to using his Keyblade. She was able to once again copy his power."
 * Same here. Nomura says that Xion is copying Roxas's power, not directly Sora's.
 * If Xion had fully absorbed Roxas, he would be completely erased, as Xion was. Not simply returned to his true self, as seen in the KHII finale, where he still possesses some self. Yes, it was the best possible outcome. However, KHII and Days make it clear that this is not something Roxas wanted to go along with, and as such that qualifies as her acting against him.
 * "Even though in the end both of their fates was to return Sora’s memories and disappear forever, on day 356 she said to Namine “I think things will soon be difficult for Roxas.” Until that time came, she wanted Axel to protect him from Xemnas. "
 * This seems to verify that Xion knows that the ultimate goal is to return Roxas to Sora as well.
 * "Just like Xion wasn't plotting against Roxas when she's trying to save him."
 * I apologize for the unclear wording, but what I was trying to communicate is that Xion was planning to go against Roxas's will, and to force things against his will. The running away in the first place, upsetting the order of the Organization, is already a big step in this - her meeting with Riku and Namine to plan the eventual return of her memories to Sora also constitute plotting to go against Roxas's will. I did not mean to connotate that Xion was trying to hurt Roxas, or that she was evil.
 * "First, the reason why Roxas throws a keyblade to Riku, and we then see a vision of Xion, is that there is a small remaining part of Xion in Roxas that wants to stop him, and makes him take those actions."
 * The main thrust here is that Nomura is pretty clearly saying that there was at least a part of Xion trying to stop Roxas. Ergo, she is an antagonist, so that part of the question is solved.
 * For the second part - this is a very rough claim to make, especially considering that this is translated material, but what Nomura is saying is small is the part that wants to stop Roxas - he doesn't appear to actually be contradicting that Xion went back to Roxas.
 * "Well, it isn’t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion’s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas. "
 * To be fair, though, this seems to put down my claim that Roxas absorbed Xion's Keyblade.
 * "Like when Roxas returned to Sora, you could SEE the crystals go into Sora; when Namine returns to Kairi, you can SEE the crystals go inside of her. Known of this "Oh, my crystals are floating in the air, but you won't see them go into Roxas out of nowhere because that's after the cutscene!"  Umm, no."
 * I may be misremembering, but the Namine/Roxas > Kairi/Sora seemed to actually involve pure light and sparkles ( at about 1:13), while Xion's breaking explicitly involved her body turning to ice (or "crystal", if you prefer), and shattering. That, along with her not actually being a Nobody, indicate that there's no reason she should follow their rules exactly.
 * Then, there is the important fact that Namine's memory retrieval from Roxas had stalled until after Roxas defeated Xion. I suppose it's possible that Namine could have finished the memories without Roxas's involvement, but the fact that the memories are apparently channeled through Roxas strongly implies that he was in fact the one who currently had them.

In short - Nomura explicitly says that Xion is copying Roxas's powers, and that Xion is on a balance of power with Roxas. While at core the two are using Sora's memories and power, I think it's clear that Xion is indirectly accessing them through Roxas. While he only explicitly confirms it being a small part, he does confirm that Xion has partially gone into Roxas.

Unless we drastically misunderstand what a Replica is, this "copying of a person's powers" seems to be the defining feature. Xion indirectly copies Sora, yes, but she is explicitly said by Axel to be Roxas's Replica, and Nomura confirms that she is copying Roxas, even if it is a way to indirectly copy Sora. Glorious  CHAOS!  04:28, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. Nomura does confirm she is copying Roxas, but (as Xemnas confirmed)it was "through Roxas" that Xion is assembling a copy of the Keyblade hero. Axel is referring to the fact that she's that "mirror" that reflects Roxas; she is copying his power. (But when Axel looked in the mirror, he didn't see Roxas. We can infer he saw Sora.)  Also, Nomura only said a small piece of Xion remained inside of Roxas. Symbolically speaking, I think that might be something to the seashell left behind after she faded, but that's just a personal opinion. Not a fact, so please don't take it the wrong way. She, as confirmed by Nomura, was trying to protect Roxas by trying to stop him, because she knows that he will most likely lose. That isn't really antagonistic. Nomura confirmed that Xion wants Roxas to free Kingdom Hearts, but DOESN'T want him to face Xemnas right now. Anyway, the point of the matter is, she is an indirect Replica of Sora AND Roxas; not really one more than the other. According to Xion, she is Sora and Roxas in the same way. This much I concede to.


 * That's not what "Antagonist" or "Neutral" means. Antagonist != evil, Protagonist != good, and Neutral != "Sometimes good, sometimes bad".


 * Antagonist: anyone who gets in the protagonist's way. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO "HELP" HIM. In effect, anyone who serves as a boss is at least a temporary antagonist, unless it is explicitly a friendly bout.
 * Protagonist: anyone who the story shows the POV of. (Ex: If Mission Mode showed the POV of Xemnas, he would be a protagonist.)
 * Neutral: Anyone who does not take sides.

Switzerland is neutral. Russia is not. Moogles are neutral. Riku is not. It is really annoying when basic literary terms like these get misinterpreted all across the wiki, and they need to be corrected. Glorious  CHAOS!  22:15, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Xion's possible future appearance
I have a theory about Xion appearing in the future game. It start like this do you remember a scene when Kairi restore Heartless Sora to his original self. Which makes me thinks Kairi use some of her body and soul to Sora. Why do you think Sora can still have a body and move? If Sora becomes a Heartless again and Roxas will be reborn with Kairi's body and soul and somehow use its parts to revive Xion. Xion’s heart or mind can be transfer to Kairi’s body and soul and become Kairi’s new Nobody. Cococrash11
 * This makes very little sense. And sounds very fanfic-esque. Stop with this, it clutters up these pages.Adam 148 20:54, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Height Trivia
OK, whoever placed this in trivia: "Xion existed for nearly a year and yet she remained the same height like most of Organization XIII (1 to 12) and unlike Roxas and Namine." should have considered it first. If you actually pay attention to the game, you'll notice that Naminé and Roxas seem to be pretty much the same height they were in KHII. This is due to the impracticality of implementing several character models at differing heights for the characters throughout the games. So we can assume that Xion did grow ingame, as she remains pretty much the same height in proportion to Roxas throughout the game. So unless someone can back up this trivia, I'm removing it. Also, 1 to 12 have already reached full maturity (with the possible exception of Zexion), and so won't grow anyway. Adam 148 17:53, November 23, 2009 (UTC) PS: If Xion did not grow, we can maybe attribute that to her being a Replica instead of a Nobody.

Weird Sister concept
Xion's whole 'shapeshifting' shtick may have been based on the 'eye of the beholder' concept seen in Gargoyles, a Disney animated series. In that show, there were a trio of Oberon's children known as The Weird Sisters, a trio of identical looking shapeshifting deities only distinguishable from each other by their hair color. Their default form was that of adult women in white robes, but they can appear in different forms at once depending on the eye of the beholder. To the Gargoyles, they usually appear in the default form, but to others, they can appear as kids, hags, business women, etc. Kaihedgie 17:56, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

You watched Garogyles!?! I LOVE THAT SHOW SINCE I WAS A KID!!! A few months ago, I feel sad since I missed it so much and I watch it on YouTube with my sister!-- Ninja Sheik  18:15, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Why Can't Anyone Remember Her?
Because she was purely composed of memories, so when Roxas absorbed her....yeah. You should also keep in mind that she is not a Nobody, but a Replica.Kaihedgie 17:19, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

xion is a HEARTLESS
if you've played kh 358/2 days, or have the book it shows her as a heartless thing at he end. so xion is a HEARTLESS.


 * Obviously you haven't played Days because you're completely wrong, she's nothing of the sort. Doreiku Kuroofangu 17:25, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoever said that Xion is a Heartless must've been really hit hard on the head. Agi Idup Agi  Ngelaban !  08:08, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * She is NOT a Heartless. Her being shown like that were forms that were caused by the little silver machines you place in different areas during some missions. Xemnas also has different forms, but that does NOT make him a Heartless either. Marluxia had the same thing in RE:COM. Seriously, get your facts straight. Saiyoku68.52.96.72 04:41, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Axel has his own fight music??
According to the article, "Xion is one of five Organization members to have her own battle theme. The other four members are Roxas, Xemnas, Axel and Marluxia."

Um, what? Axel never had a boss theme of his own, last time I checked. In CoM, he has "The 13th Struggle" just like every other Organization member... and in KH2, he has a different version of the same song, which he shares with Luxord.
 * Correct. It should be one of four. Agi Idup Agi  Ngelaban !  00:54, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Xion's Earliest Appearance?
After playing 358/2 Days, I went back to  KH2 and noticed something familiar in the intro. I think Xion actually has a brief appearance in the intro movie of KH2. At about 2:20 there's DiZ and someone in a hood standing side by side, before the scene warps to Castle Oblivion. The more I look at the hooded figure, the less it resembles Riku... and it wouldn't make sense to me for that to be Roxas, either. Anyone else have any impressions on this? Digital Ronin 01:55, January 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's Riku. The main reason why you have DiZ and the hooded figure is because by then, Riku had taken the appearance of Xehanort's Heartless. It's not Xion. Agi Idup Agi  Ngelaban !  02:04, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

There is also a hooded personafter the scene of Sora fighting against the heartless in Rising Falls is that Unknown or maybe it's Xion--Xabryn 21:48, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Appearance in Birth by Sleep
From the secret ending from Birth by Sleep I saw in Youtube, should we put that she makes a minor appearance from it? edit: I mean that she appeared in the secret ending, along with Roxas and Axel (not Lea).--Xsonicdragon 22:59, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. What hapenned here?
what about riku?

Because if xion dies in his arms they must have SOMETHING and seriously, sora and kairi have nobodies so shouldnt riku?

And wtf is that supposed to mean when riku says "im the biggest nobody of all"? is he still possessed by that darkness guy?


 * Xion did not die in Riku's arms. She died in Roxas' arms after he defeated her. Xion was just unconscious after taking a lot of pain from the memories she has absorbed and transforming into Roxas, back to herself, Riku, and Sora, and then returning to herself again. Riku obviously had to talk with her so he was there either while that happened or right after and decided to help her. KH3 SPOILER WARNING!!!: Riku does find out he has a Nobody in KH3. No one knows who he is or anything like that, but that's all we know so far. Apparently when Ansem took over Riku's body, that turned him into a Heartless, thus creating a Nobody.


 * Next, when Riku says "I'm the biggest Nobody of them all." then he is basically saying that he has much to atone for because he basically helped with the destruction of all the worlds and that he has as much as a crime for existing as a Nobody does, if not an even worse one. Saiyoku68.52.96.72 04:48, February 5, 2010 (UTC)