Talk:Lea

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Why did someone make this? Is it really nesscesary?-- 17:53, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

That would make sense if Lea either had a conformed appearance. This is the same as giving Sora's mom a page...-- 18:00, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Look very carefully at this article...is there any information in it that does not already appear on Axel's page? I really don't see anything being added to the wiki by this being here. Granted, there are pages being made for other "somebodies", but that is presuming they will have a role and story in Birth By Sleep outside of their existence as Nobodies. Unless more of Lea's background is unveiled somehow, this really should just be a redirect to Axel's article. Bebop Kate  18:27, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * What does it matter if someone said "this is like giving Sora's mom a page" before? That's exactly what this is. All we know about Lea is his name and that he was friends with whole!Saix. And that's it. This page is only longer than an introduction because it just talks about Axel, which we have the Axel page for.—Urutapu 19:04, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Cut it out, you guys.-- 19:09, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

The founding members are a little more important than Lea, that'd be my guess. I don't remember them having pages until after they were conformed in BBS.-- 19:21, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

True.-- 19:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * While we did have pages for the founding members, they were subject to this exact same debate. Many felt we did not need the pages, as the bulk of the information focused on the Nobody instead of the person.  Now that BbS info has changed things, the pages have suitably changed.  Look at Lea's page...two-thirds of the text are on Axel, not on Lea.  Even the intro says, "Not much is known about him."  Why do we need a second article on what is basically the same person?  Bebop  Kate  20:00, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

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Go ahead.-- 20:11, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps.-- 20:15, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

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 * Because it's absurdly speculative, and if you honestly can't see that, then you shouldn't be editing this kind of article any more. Every bit of what you just said is text-book speculation. Glorious  CHAOS!  20:21, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

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Flynn as Lea
Not gonna use my talk bubble as this is kinda official. - http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4466/leac.jpg - there is the source. Taken straight from my Facebook, I asked him the question as to whether he was doing Lea and he confirmed it.

Lia or Lea?
In the new scans that was released, the box with Lea's name was spelled differently. It was spelled Lia. So, is it Lea or Lia now? I know I shouldn't be worrying over something like this, but stil...-- 17:55, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I thought as much. I hope we can get clearer scans soon.-- 18:00, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. Until we get clearer scans, I putt that "Betterpic" template on their pages.-- 18:04, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

To answer your question: Axel's true name is pronounced and written as "R/Lee-uh" in the original Japanese versions of the Kingdom Hearts games, and romanized as "Ria" or "Lia" due to the pronunciation of the "L" sound in the Japanese language. Thus, the "Lia typo" is born. --24.99.20.159 23:41, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Child?
Don't you think it should be rephrased to 'teenager'? He really doesn't look like a twelve year old when you compare him and Isa to Ven Kaihedgie 23:51, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Radiant Garden
The example given, Kairi, is actually "the exception that proves the rule". She was only able to leave Radiant Garden because space travel was discovered, and this game is set before Radiant Garden becomes really aware of that. Especially because they are kids, there is no reason to believe that they could have been flying around. As such, the possibility that they aren't from Radiant Garden is actually less plausible, so let's just use this for now. Glorious  CHAOS!  22:45, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Remember Cid? Cid built a gummi ship and escaped that way.-- Xion 4  ever  22:51, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't prove anything about Lea or Isa. Just that Leon, Cid and the others are natives from Radiant Garden/Hollow Bastion. To back this up further: We found this out from Kingdom Hearts. Finding out if Isa/Lea are natives of Radiant Garden will probably be answered in Birth By Sleep. Wait until the US release to confirm if they're actual natives.-- Xion 4  ever  23:20, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, the nature of gummi ships is that they could not be built at Radiant Garden during the events of Birth by Sleep. The Ansem Reports are clear about this, and the recent info about the Star Fragment only backs this up. Glorious  CHAOS!  23:47, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

A little tidbit of Lea Trivia
Lea's not just wearing any old scarf, it's a houndstooth style scarf. Isn't Houndstooth the name of one of Axels attacks? I think "Firetooth" is the attack you're thinking of, and what makes it a houndstooth scarf?  Lapis Scarab  02:34, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/kingdomhearts/images/b/bf/Lea_bbs.png http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=2213030

That is not Houndstooth, that's just stripes and checkers. This is Houndstooth HarpieSiren 07:40, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Bomb reference

 * Yeah. Uh. How so? Kingdom Hearts makes random Final Fantasy references all the time. Also, a Bomb is a flaming head with piranha teeth, last time I checked.—Urutapu 17:59, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

New cutscene with Lea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyRgem68abc

Um.. spoiler warning if you don't want to know ANYTHING, I guess. It's in Japanese and dosen't have subtitles, and I doubt it'll be up for long, but it looks like Lea and Isa are in Radiant Garden. Could this support the theory that they are natives? I think so. :] Don't see how they could've traveled there otherwise...

Anyway. Thoughts on this new video? Does anyone understand it?


 * Meh, too lazy to translate the whole thing, but basically, Ven's butthurt about something, Lea pokes fun at Terra's wooden keyblade ("Look at mine! Way cooler, right?), they introduce themselves, spar, Isa's actually an alright guy, just quiet, Isa reminds Lea that they have a place to be, et cetera. Whether they're native or not doesn't come up, but I think it's pretty obvious they are, they don't have a means of travel and only appear in the Radiant Garden.—Urutapu 07:21, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also it already says Radiant Garden in the infobox you could've read that much ಠ_ಠ —Urutapu 07:23, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

hahahaha funny....
Hey, you're right! Well, we need to tame some of his hair a little more, but yeah. Lea's closer to Reno than Axel. Let's get the kid some sunglasses and a business suit immediately!

Boss Fight?
Do you fight Lea as a boss fight, or is it just a cutscene? Keyblade474 22:59, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cutscene. You don't even actually see the fight.-- Lapis of the Night  23:00, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Content from Axel Page
This needs to be added to the Lea page in the best way possible, as it contains information relevant to the article that was once a redundant section on the Axel page :

Before becoming a Nobody, the character known as Axel was a teenager named Lea (pronounced "Lee"). Lea was friends with Saïx's original persona, Isa, the two planning to take over Organization XIII together. Once Lea joined, his name changed to Axel, Isa's name changed to Saïx. Identities weren't the only things that changed, however, as Saïx changed to an emotionless, calm Nobody in terms of personality. Axel's personality remained more or less unchanged. This caused the bond Axel and Saïx shared as humans to break. Over time, Axel possibly forgot about their plans or chose to keep them secret and not think about them, as Saïx became Xemnas's second-in-command. He was later reminded by his old friend about the plans they once had. Saïx even addressed Axel by his original name. Lea and Isa's friendship later turned into a hostility, as seen in Kingdom Hearts II and Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days.

Thank you. - 20:20, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I kind of meant for this to actually happen... There is content that must be in the article. -  18:50, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Name pronunciation
What is the source for this? Glorious  CHAOS!  23:03, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days has it prounounced as "lee" in the English version.00:59, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Have you noticed...
Have you noticed that Aeleus backwards is Sue Lea and Lexaeus backwards is Sue Axel? Maybe Lexaeus/Aeleus dislikes Axel/Lea. Should we include this somewhere in the pages Aeleus, Lexaeus, Axel and Lea

Archlight 101 08:33, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * ...no, we shouldn't. Why don't you try it just to see  what happens?  14:22, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not saying I will start editing it, BUT. Apparently Axel is revealed to be a Keyblade wielder towards the end of Dream Drop Distance, be prepared for clean up regarding that.--Lavaros 08:38, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

You mean Lea, and why isn't their any info regarding KH:DDD yet? The suspense at finding out all the info that is in DDD is killing me faster than my pet heartless! --Sapphowako 00:51, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Axel/Lea. The adult version is the same to me.--124.148.41.171 12:32, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

@Sapphowako, we're not superheroes. The game just came out, and both YouTube walkthroughs and livestreams are largely incomplete. Plus, many editors don't own a 3DS. We can't just put every single detail on the game within the week it comes out. 13:47, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Source?
In the "Abilities" section it says Lea got the ability to wield a Keyblade from "magically compressed training with Yen Sid, Merlin, and the three fairies". Is there a source for this? --Elfdemon (talk) 04:21, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah. DDD. I'll explain in detail tomorrow. Rex Ronald Rilander (talk) 04:44, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah dang, man. I totally blanked on you big time. Anyways, the source. After completing the Symphony of Sorcery, the cutscene "The King Departs" plays. In it, after being questioned vaguely about Lea's training, Yen Sid clearly states that "Merlin and the three good fairies are aiding him in a place that's more...temporally flexible.". Rex Ronald Rilander (talk) 00:13, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Please rewrite


Most of the anon's edit here is salvageable and good stuff, but it removes way too much context that helps the reader understand what the stage directions actually mean, so it comes off very robotic. The intent was good, but the execution has this flaw we need to correct. 21:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

His quote.
My version of his quote, being ""Axel"? Please! The name's Lea! Got it memorized?" does represent him, since he doesn't like when people always call him by his Nobody's name, and thus, with his catchprase, shows how he wants to be remembered the right way by calling him by the right name. Plus, the "Please !" shows how he mocks Xigbar about his mistake, meaning he tends to make fun of his enemies. 23:10, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * For reference, the previous discussion. 12:47, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I think the quote Chitalian put is better, as it is more meaningful. It truly embodies Lea's desire to be remembered by everyone he meets. It's a quote that pushes past Lea's typical cocky behavior and reveals his profound wish to be remembered and live through the memories of others, which is why he always say "Got it memorized?"; thus, the quote gives Lea's personality a more meaningful representation.-- 19:25, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

It's not just that the current quote is indicative of his personality, it's also that Lea's primary motivation is being spelled out to us. This is what drives the character, it's the building block around which Lea's personality is built. 19:36, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * His version doesn't contain his catchphrase, and it is about a younger version of Lea, not the actual version of himself being the adult, appearing in KH3D, and thus, this younger version is obsolete. The simple fact is that in this game, people always mistake him for Axel, and he makes that correction, by wanting to be remembered the right way, like I've already said that before. Plus, it also has the catchphrase being "Got it memorized ?" as well ! To me, it truly represents his personality as his actual version (this fact overruling the other quote) and shows how he makes fun of his enemies, so there's no way it doesn't represent him at all ! 15:54, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It seems you're really hung about using the quote you recommended simply because it contains his catchphrase and doesn't like being called Axel. The quote should be more about personality and dig deep into what truly embodies that character. As Chitalian pointed out, the current quote is " building block around which Lea's personality is built". It pushes past the surface of Lea's cocky, sarcastic, jovial personality and represents his innermost desire, which is to be remembered by everyone he meets. In any case, would it be acceptable to put the "Axel"? Please! The name's Lea! Got it memorized?" quote in his personality section and leave the current quote as it on top of the page?-- 20:08, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * And thus give up his catchphrase being on top of the page ? 18:18, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It's really not that important to have a catchphrase featured like that, and we already mention it in his personality section. We're not trying to show that Lea is some vehicle for a catchphrase, we want to display the best quote possible to give us insight into the character. 18:44, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

If I may. I personally have no real care for this topic; I feel that this is the least significant issue on this page. However, it appears that Square Enix feels "The name's Lea. Got it memorized?" is a good show of his character. So, with that in mind, I think that should be his quote. But, again, it's not the biggest deal, so it doesn't really matter in the long run. 21:58, 26 June 2017 (UTC)