Forum:Boss attacks

I definitely agree on no unofficial names. See Kryten's talk page and my message on it for an idea I had as a potential solution to the problem. - 20:17, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't think gifs will work, because it won't be easy to get good quality ones that can show what the enemy does. I think we should focus on getting the official names from the Ultimania. 20:36, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm not saying it won't work, but gifs are already as difficult to obtain as they are. I'd rather have the few people who can make gifs concentrate on more prevalent attacks, like limits and commands. Also, yes, preferably we get the names from the Ultimania but we still need to reach a consensus on how to deal with unnamed attacks either as a placeholder until the Ultimania is checked or if the Ultimania doesn't name a particular move. 21:33, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Bold vs. Italics seems like a good suggestion to me. -- 21:52, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I was suggesting either .gifs (which would make descriptions of attacks redundant) or regular .png screenshots (since those could depict the main part of the attack in question, while still requiring a description of what happens when it is executed). This basically would stop the debate on whether we use unofficial names or not (something I'm against, completely). If anything, the table I'm proposing could allow a space for an attack name if there is one from the Ultimania. Otherwise, we would just leave that slot in the table blank, or write "N/A" or put a dash. For example:

Alternatively, we can format the table like this: Here's an example in which there is no official attack name (note that there is NO FAKE NAME USAGE; pretend Dark Aura's name was unknown) Again, just a suggestion that can be tinkered with and improved upon in the future if necessary. - 02:14, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, I can see the potential there, if we can get demonstrative gifs. Might not be as good for long-duration attacks, like the V-V's Shadow Dive, though. -- 03:28, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think you necessarily need the full attack, as much as a portion of its main form and then its finisher (using Dark Aura as an example, a few warps and then the flames). - 04:40, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Still, there are some games (KH3D for example) which make it hard to get images from. 06:45, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe we could develop something like this for when an attack does not have an image to illustrate it. - 06:55, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Maybe you're right, but I just feel that quotation marks make it feel more like making up a name, while italics make it feel more like calling it by its description. That's just my impression of it. -- 14:55, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. 18:40, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thoughts on the table, Kryten? You kinda ignored it entirely :P - 18:41, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * While the ideal article would absolutely have images, I don't think it's going to be possible to use images to the exclusion of names, and definitely not to the exclusion of descriptions unless we can somehow get the camera to focus on the boss instead of the protagonist. I would prefer the table have the images in a separate column from the names, if only because it will literally be ages before we have comprehensive image coverage -- although it should also be said that having the images above the technique name distracts the eyes from the technique name. Given the busy-ness of the images, and the lack of comprehensivity, I would actually place them in the rightmost column, so we don't have a gaping abyss sucking at the eye marrow and tunneling inbetweeners to the regulation of patriotism...
 * Huh? Oh. The table would also benefit from listing the KHWiki:Project Shout-style telegraphs, and should absolutely list a method for avoiding or countering the technique, but that doesn't need to be a distinct cell from the description itself. 22:20, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but you're only using the names in the strategy section as opposed to the Attacks list. Though on second thoughts, the italics might work okay. 17:12, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * As far as I know, all attacks/techniques/whatever ever used in the series (except perhaps the BBSFM-exclusive enemies; I think Shard has the official guide for that, maybe ask him about it?) have official names listed in their respective Ultimania; so it's just a matter of finding them. This site has a bunch of them in Japanese (although I can barely navigate it...), and I can clarify any names from KH2/KH2FM, ReCoM and DDD personally (there's always a description alongside a named technique). Ultima Spark   (talk)  Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png 18:04, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I have the KH3D Ultimania too, but it doesn't list all techniques, like the Spellican's broom-summoning attack, for example. (This may be because it is not an attack, but more like a special technique.) 18:11, 23 May 2015 (UTC)