Talk:Kingdom Hearts Wiki

Xemnas FM battle
I'm quite surprised to see that there's no page for the fight against Xemnas in the original Final Mix. It'd be great if someone would be kind enough to make one.Xagzan

Lacking
Okay so this wiki is really great but we are lacking some serious info. I propose that someone with good knowlege of Kingdom Hearts (mostly everyone here) create articles for Outer Space/Sea of Outer Space, Memory Pod and some other things. I'll post 'em when I think of them.

KH2: FM and KH2: FM+
Does the main page really need a link to both of these? The official title is closer to Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+, and the other is a redirect anyways. Linking to a redirect, and then having a direct link under it, seems kinda weird to me.

Wikia:c:ideas:Kingdom Hearts
I made this page for making up ideas for future Kingdom Hearts levels, characters, items, etc. --Nerd42 19:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC

Shouldn't this be part of the Final Fantasy wikia
I'm curious about that because Kingdom Hearts is a final fantasy game...Alex 1991 18:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It actually has more content from Disney movies than Final Fantasy. Plus it's a seperate series - only 3 games, but that's longer than any other Final Fantasy game "series", the only one being FFX and FFX-2. Scottch 18:44, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't forget FF7. That's got a PS1 game, a PS2 game, a PSP game, and three Mobile Phone games. User:Sephiroth7734
 * No. Fail. User:Ekiron

it's in both Disney and Final Fantasy wiki's, but it isn't really a final fantasy game though. It just has some characters and ok maybe a bit of the magic >.> But final fantasy is in this wiki so it evens out I guess. KingdomKey

No they are different

Featured article?
Maybe it's time to set up some sort of front page article system. We certainly have a good number of presentable articles. Scott ch  17:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

New picture?
I think we could use our own custom image for the wiki logo. Perhaps Sora, Donald, and Goofy standing above the name of the wiki. Also we should come up with a name for the wiki, such as KHWiki, WiKHipedia, or Wi-Key-Pedia.

Or mabye one that has the Original Kingdom Hearts characters (Sora, Kairi, Riku etc.) And my votes for Wiki Hearts or Kingdompedia-Clarkmaster

Articles
Is there anything that doesn't have it's own article? I'm quite prepared to do one or two, and improve the ones that we have Jammi568 12:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sure there A LOT of articles waiting to be improved here. Blue. 15:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. But do you know of any that need to be made?Jammi568 16:27, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * There are too many fucking articles here. I am dead serious, we only have about 600, and I am confident that this wiki will only work once we have about 300. Especially all the Weapon pages, is there really so much information about each Shield to warrent a seperate page? No, and we got to work on this. --BlueHighwind 21:02, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Got to work on some Manual of Style to start. Blue. 21:11, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Underdrome?
Right, all this Wiki needs is a DNC clone. Good work, Cloudofdarkness. Blue. 02:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC) Bold text

IIn all fairness, a lot of people might probably would like to have KH fights, but since the DNC specifically forbids anything not from Final Fantasy, the KHWiki really ought to have its own venue for these... err... public combat displays. Besides, if you think it'd be too much of a "DNC clone", you could always change the layout or something. Furthermore, if there isn't an "official" colosseum on this wiki, I may decide to fill the void with one of my trademark utterly ridiculously silly ones. Take a look at my Flan's Elbow Colosseum to see just how worried you should be by this "threat" :P


 * I think what Blue meant when he said "DNC clone" was not that it'd just look like the DNC, but it'd do what it did to the FFWiki at one point, and even now. Which is take it over and people would be obsessed with it and we would get no constructive edits to the wiki if we have it. -Azul (talk ・contribs) 22:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair point (although I personally don't believe the wiki would suffer that much). Maybe we could put a poll on the main page to see how many people are interested in having one, and go from there?

Wikia Gaming IRC channel
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Different people may be on sporadically, but we organize weekly chats at a fixed time so we can get the most number of people online at the same time to ask and answer questions, or just to hang out. The admins of some of Wikia's biggest gaming wikis (e.g. WoW, Halo) often attend them. You can find the time for the next chat by following this link.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me! Kirkburn (talk) 10:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

KH Wikey
lol, just an idea for what you could name the Wiki...

Kingdom Hearts WiKey

Ofcourse now it sounds alot like Mickey.

I only come here for art reference. =3 86.128.164.219 17:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Featured Article
I am completely pro-Cleanup of the Month. But can't we have that AND a featured article? Only showing off the articles that need work sort of makes it seem like we... suck.--Zephyrus11 21:43, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

No more KH for the PS2?
I have a bad gut feeling the 3 knights from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep were added to Final Mix+ because they might move "KH3" to the PS3. I only have a PS2, a 360, and it's a risk trying to get the Wii for X-Mas. Enzeru 12:23, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

No, they probably will not, but you never know

Is it me, or...
Is there a random piece of coding next to the ads? XienZo 04:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's just you. Screen it and upload the image somewhere, so people can see. --Hecko X 04:57, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Pages for the fights in Kingdom Heart?
There are some other wikis that have entire pages for a battle, like on wookiepedia, there are innumerable pages, like the Battle of Geonosis, Duel in the Chancellor's office, Mission to Mustafar, etc., so I was wondering if we can do the same here. For example, "Duel in Twilight Town's Mansion's Basement" (between Roxas and Axel), and "Duel on Castle Oblivion's [insert floor number] floor" (for the battle in the hallways), "Duel in Isla De Murta" (for Sora, Jack and co. vs. Barbossa), and so on. I know it needs some work, but each page could have a lot of sections, like "Reaction Commands" and "After math" and maybe even some stratagies for the battles. What do you all think?
 * Well, we do have (enemy) pages which are about the bosses and how to beat them with reaction cards and stuff. Also, we try to include what happens in the respective enemy's page(Stopping the heartless production in Radient Garden would be in MCP's page). Also, specific battles are often quite trivial in terms of storyline unlike Star Wars.In Kingdom Hearts, the only important battles are the ones with Maleficent, Riku, and Ansem, which is covered in their respective pages.CoM takes place in less than a day, and its just the members attacking Sora/Riku and losing.In KH2, Sora goes somewhere, he fights some random villain cause he's bored, Sora obviously wins cause he's protagonist, and continues to the next world to keep looking for Riku and Kairi. XienZo 01:16, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd say that only the Battle of Hollow Bastion (or whatever you want to call it) is large-scale enough to warrant its own article, which is in fact the case. Note that both the fight against Demyx and the Battle of the 1000 Heartless are just two parts of this larger battle, so if it were up to me I'd move the latter article to "Battle of Hollow Bastion", since the 1000 Heartless isn't the only conflict in the overall battle... but that's just my opinion. Oh, and of course more battles may arrive once BBS comes out, what with this so-called Keyblade War an' all.

Another Report
Ever heard of it? Linkie http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/another-report/pages-26-27

cower at the words of Tesuya Nomura76.3.217.65 13:56, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

And Kingdom Hearts Mobile?
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/mobile/kh/

the disney castle image displays and says Kingdom hearts Coded

Gallery Pages?
It might be just a random thought but wouldn't be a good idea to have pages like Sora/Gallery or something like that? Clarkmaster!

I need an administrator or someone else in charge to read this!!!
Okay, this is kind of an odd topic, but I believe that, with the blessings of the mods, we should make a colliseum, in the same fashion as the one in the Final Fantasy Wiki. It's cool, and there are plenty of good matchups, now that there's Organization XIII, Unbirths, and other awesome characters. WHaddyathink? 75.1.7.22 02:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It's already been asked further up the page

Heartless groups
While looking around here i saw this on the Neoshadow page:

A Neoshadow is one step up from a Shadow and one step down from a Darkball.

is this actually true. Are there groups of heartless? And who decides which heartless is strongest? I don't rly get it MoltenAsh 15:46, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Sounds pretty ridiculous to me. Partly because I don't see how Neoshadows are below Darkballs, and partly because quantifying "steps" like that is just plain stupid. As far as groups are concerned, the only relevant group hfor those three is that they all happen to be Purebloods, as are Invisibles and Darksides and probably others I'm forgetting

BBS and days
Because they're not part of the main storyline; they're just shootoffs to explain other parts of the main story. Keyblader 19:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

an idea
how about when kingdom hearts birth by sleep comes out in america we put a picture of terra aqua and ventus i found a pic--demyx and mickey 4evr 11:17, 26 July 2009 (UTC) nah Ghostboy3000 12:10, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Bwahaha
I've already cropped one of them, but this is an archive of all the new journal entries and puzzles, as well as some screenshots of the new items. I'm using a gamefaqs save, so there might be stuff I don't have yet, and since I can only play at 10% speed, I probably won't get it. I'll try to get the synthesis images, though.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=60VKARAU Glorious  CHAOS!  23:34, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I did the synthesis items. Here's the dealio - I was able to setup my PC to play PS2 games on it, if I have the disc. I have the KH2FM disc, and I was able to get a file for the save of KH2FM. However, I don't know how to convert saves to the pc version, so I have to use a save I found on a forum. Plus, my computer's not fast enough to handle it, so it plays at 25% speed - just enough to make it through, for example, the Cavern of Remembrance in an hour or two. I can put up the files needed to play the PS2 on megaupload, including the KH2FM save.


 * 1) If anyone has the disc for KH1FM, I can find a version of the save file for that game. It would be extremely helpful if you could get screenshots of the new journal entries and item descriptions and post them on megaupload.
 * 2) I'm going to go through and try to put up standardized and clearer synthesis item images, as seen in Remembrance. If anyone could do me the huge favor of posting a save file for KH2FM on gamefaqs, which has at least one of every synthesis item in inventory, not with the moogle, I could get this done much faster. I don't know how to do this myself, though, but I can point you towards the right forums. Glorious  CHAOS!  05:49, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Games
See Ghost. Do you see how they list the appearances with those boxes in the upper left? Do we want to do that, using the game logos? 'course, we'd have to figure something out for the manga appearances. Glorious  CHAOS!  21:02, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Calling Admins
It is already September, which means the admins need to pick a new article for Cleanup in the Cleanup Drive. There also needs to be a new Featured Image (which I'm pretty sure the Piano Collections Kingdom Hearts cover won) and someone needs to start a new Voting area for November on the Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Votes for Featured Media. Heart  Of Oblivion  13:30, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

As a compromise between current games
Where did the table of contents go?--Masgrande 07:00, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Sidebars
Hey Admins! You know, clicking on the sidebar extension Kingdom Hearts from Main Series links to the article about the series, not the article about the game. Please fix this. -- Door To  Nothing  02:14, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

There is another problem. When you go to Universe of Kingdom Hearts > Main Antagonists > Organization XIII, Vexen is missing. Could this please be fixed? - Lev L  17:28, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

never mind i was gonna figure out how to do it but i got tons of homeworks to do Firaga44 18:07, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Days Ultimania
Could anyone who has them saved e-mail me the scans from the Days Ultimania? Glorious  CHAOS!  14:06, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Probably the wrong place, but...
Has anybody considered making a page for shipping? I'm not saying we need to be like Bulbapedia and have an article for every ship, but you know... it is a big part of the fandom. The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 22:58, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Nope, no, nein. This is a fact-based wiki; if it isn't actually in the games, it's not here. However, the Kingdom Hearts Fanon wiki might have more of what you're looking for. Bebop Kate  03:26, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

The stats for the 358/2 Days Weapons seem broken?
I was going to fix the stats and images for the 358/2 Days weapons, but even though it says 0 for the outside page, when you go and edit it, the text seems to have the stats on there even though it doesn't say it on the page, it just says 0. I noticed this when I was going to fix Larxene's Demoiselle weapon. Is this some glitch or something? Dornob25 04:46, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * not broken, people just suck at using the template correctly for the weapons. just check the template documentation, and you'll see what's wrong --Neumannz 04:56, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Article Order
Not sure if this goes here but I was thinking, shouldn't we make an official order for world and characters articles like: story, characters, enemies, areas for worlds and story, abilities, personality, appearance for characters(I'm just making example not saying this should the order). This is just to make the articles more uniform it's not like there is a problem or something.--Masgrande 03:25, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

White Rabbit
Whoever is the next Admin in line to pick a Featured Article needs to make their selection now. It's alrady December, and the White Rabbit from November still remains. -- 00:38, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Maleficent and Xemnas.....
I've been thinking a bit about those two when I noticed certain things:

1.- So far from all the characters featured it seems that Maleficent could be called the strongest spellcaster in the whole series so far as nor Yen Sid nor Merlin have been shown to fight at all, Merlin sorcery limits solely to support the main characters, while Yen Sid was shown using magic to show images to Sora and Co. It is to note that Diablo came to "pick" Maleficent from his tower itself, and it seems he was not aware of such. Just a thought, not sure if you agree with it to add it in the Trivia or in the description.

2.- In the last round of battles against Xemnas, he wears an armor with a gigantic blade, when I paid a better look at it, when he wears armor he somehow resembles the Keyblade masters from Birth by Sleep, which could possibly be another reference with Master Xehanort if this one is really related with the Xehanort we all know. I find this interesting to add in the trivia, not sure what you think.

Thanks for your time. I hope you can reply.

New Kingdom Hearts Game Idea
I dont know about you, but i think they should make a kingdom hearts game that is a 1 vs 1 duel type game, such as Soul Caliber. This would be an awesome idea with Kingdom Hearts. You could have a bunch of playable characters such as Sora, Riku, Donald, Goofy, Roxas, Leon, Yuffie, all of the Organization 13 members and more. Also lots of dueling arenas such as Castle Oblivion, Destiny Island, Hollow Bastion, etc. Do you guys think this would be a good idea? Maybe we can get the word around and it could possibly happen. --75.67.78.15 00:06, December 14, 2009 (UTC)Danny


 * Dude, this sort of stuff is for the Forums. Post it there. Maggosh 00:11, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean a Kingdom Hearts version of Dissidia: Final Fantasy? - User:One-Winged Angel 15:38 Decemeber 23, 2009

"See also" section
I've noticed that most if not all the links in the "See also" section on a lot of pages are already on the page somewhere before. Do we really need two or more of the same link? Is redundancy really necessary? - User:One-Winged Angel 10:26 December 23, 2009

New Kingdom Hearts Game
I think having a Kingdom Hearts game like Soul Caliber would be awsome. :)

Days spoilers
I think we agreed we'd only have these up for a few months, and well, it's been a few months. I've taken them down already on Kingdom Key and Oblivion. Glorious  CHAOS!  22:59, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, I think it's time to take them down, and put up the BBS ones... -  — Ripp RappRupp 23:04, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, BebopKate and I found it rather simple that there was no point in having specific spoiler templates for specific games. So, the Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep spoiler template was deleted, and the Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days spoiler template was redirected to the original spoiler template. So, when applying the spoiler template on the soon-to-come Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep spoilers, be sure to just use the regular spoiler template. -- 00:26, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Header?

 * Nothing. You should probably reload your browser. Glorious  CHAOS!  20:16, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

GS undefined

Just a Question
The rock titan and the Ice titan in kingdom hearts, they have names, revealled in the Hercules animated series or somethin like that. The Ice one is Hydros, The rock one is Lythos, the lava one is Pyros and the wind one is Stratos, so why note use these names in the articles instead of the Titan Titles. Another point would be if there was ever an explaination as to why Pyros and Stratos are absent in the Kingdom Hearts series, I mean with 6 games and a remake for three of them making 9, you think they'd be able to squeeze in these two characters, it just doesn't seem right without them, any other thoughts?

(Leviathan657 03:23, January 16, 2010 (UTC))

Hi, Leviathan. The Kingdom Hearts Wiki deals with information only in the context of the Kingdom Hearts video games. We do not cover information from other areas, such as Disney films or TV series, or the Final Fantasy games, as there are other, more suitable wikis and sites that cover that info. The Ice Titan is never actually called Hydros in the game; we feel it would be confusing if someone looking for information on "Ice Titan" came across "Hydros" instead since it's never referred to in-game by that name.

We don't know why the other Titans aren't around, but since there are almost assuredly more Kingdom Hearts games on the way, there's a still chance they'll appear. 03:35, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Coliseum infoboxes
I need someone to get me a high quality screenshot of the Cup scoreboards - those things that are purple with yellow text. I'm going to try and get the Coliseum infoboxes finished, and then we can finish all enemy infoboxes. Glorious  CHAOS!  18:29, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Nintendo Power
I guess this is the proof that Falcon is talking about:--Xabryn 16:35, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Days World location names
Please use User talk:KrytenKoro/Items to add to the world articles. Thanks! Glorious  CHAOS!  15:58, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

One winged Angel
For some reason I believe that there should be an article about the popular theme played when facing Sephiroth. It is recognisable, and one of the most popular pieces of video game music known. But I have this strong feeling that most people disagree.(Bananaphone1996 05:43, April 18, 2010 (UTC))

I would have to agree with this. The name technically is based off the track.

EDIT: My mistake, I thought you were talking about the Keyblade. So I'll have to disagree. Maggosh 05:46, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Creating that article would be a waste of time. The only songs we have articles on are the ones who play a strong signifigance in the series, such as Simple and Clean, Sanctuary, and the Atlantica songs.-- Xion 4  ever  15:37, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom hearts
I can't find an article about Kingdom hearts, not kingdom hearts the game or title, but the actual kingdom hearts. Is there any redirects or anything to help find it?Aqua00000 19:30, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you mean the world, then this is the article. Otherwise, see the disambiguation page here. 19:36, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

oh geez, no wonder i couldn't find it. kingdom hearts isn't a world. its just a stage, kingdom hearts can be used to make a new world.Aqua00000 19:40, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dimension Link
Can You Add Pictures of The D-Link Icons "The Characters Faces and The 2 Symbols" That Show Up When You Use Them and When you Go To The D-Link Menu?

Cleanup of the Month
Alright, the Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days weapon articles have really improved; all that is left is for a few of us to go through and add the rest of the "Gameplay" sections, and for the last of those arrowgun images. Since this means we should be changing it again, I'll open up this Forum for the administrators to discuss what the next "Cleanup of the Month" should be, similar to how we choose featured articles. See you there! -- 20:59, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Whats Kingdom hearts 3 going to be about? Sora already destroyed kingdom hearts i thought

KH BBS Official Site NA
Guess What Guys, The Offical NA Site for BbS Has Been Updated Check it Out. You May Also Wanna Check Out The Gameplay, It Has English Gameplay Of the Characters. Also we Here The English Voices of Terra, Aqua & Ventus.

June 5, 2010 4:35 AM

Kingdom210

Is it me or are we all facing the same problem ?
Monaco.css is showing blue, except for the homepage and logo, which are red. We haven't switched to the BBS theme yet, have we ? 12:49, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

This has been happening to me for a while now. I know that DTN and KKD were experiencing the same problem as well... 12:54, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm seeing blue again. But today is the first day this has happened. I know the same problem has happened over Kingdom Hearts Fanon Wiki - all of us set Monaco to Jade (the green one, to fit the logo), but till now we're still seeing blue.


 * Think we should ping Wikia Central and/or the staff ? } 12:58, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm... This definitely isn't the first time it's happened to me, and I have a screenshot to prove it: I'm not overly sure what the date was, but I think I printscreened it on the same date that ENX posted this.  13:11, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah that, yes. But all this while I was actually seeing the red theme..... and I thought that this problem only existed on KHF until today. 13:15, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Its happened to me loads of times too. Organization 13 13:15, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh noes... I think this calls for a ping to Wikia Central. 13:22, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * While we're on the subject of wiki problems, the wiki is taking ages to load for me, and it occasionally just stops working and displays a blank page, so maybe wikia is up to something? 13:25, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * As for that, that happens to me once in every three weeks or so... I'm not sure why. 13:30, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * That stuff never happens to me. But then again, I use Monobook (I'm so old school >.>), so yeah. The wiki is actually one of the fastest loading sites for me.
 * You're using Monobook ? So that means only Monaco's giving problems. But that's the skin almost everyone uses. 13:47, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, I use Monobook. It usually Is Monaco. That means we should all switch to Monobook <.<
 * I know, but if we were to switch to Monobook, then what will become of our layouts ? We need to ask Kryten or anyone with access to the CSS page if it can be changed. 13:57, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Methinks we should just make Monobook layouts then, if possible. If not, oh well. You get used to it.

I've noticed that when the place goes blue it messes up the Heartless templates on the Heartless pages. Organization 13 14:06, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait, that's for Monobook or Monaco ? 14:12, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Monobook never screws up. He meant Monaco.
 * Yeah, none of the tabs work when the Monaco turns blue, and the game templates appear at the top left, not the top right. 14:20, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

So now, we make Monobook skins and compel everyone to use Monobook ?? 15:32, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know, I just want a Monobook theme :P But seriously, we shouldn't force people to do a certain theme. The point of the themes is unique customization; just contact Wikia Central, I'm sure they'll get on it. This happens in the FF Wiki too, so it's definetely Spell fail DX not just this wiki.

Apparently, from what I hear, the new BBS theme which Xiggie designed should be compatible for Monobook (Bluerfn is using it, I think). But for now... since I'm signing out, can someone ping Wikia Central ? Please ? 16:07, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds great. I don't know how, so not me :/
 * I'll try, and I'll link them to this page. 16:43, June 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, this appears to happen often. I get it about every 36th page (I was bored so I counted) refreshing usually fixes it for me.
 * Okay, I've sent them an email with screenshots and a link back here. Hopefully, they'll reply soon. =) 17:00, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * The same problems have been happening on other wikis I've been on, I wonder if this is wiki-wide...I first used Monobook, but I couldn't access all the wiki trinkets.
 * Thanks Dan !
 * In the meantime, let's hope they reply...... 02:23, June 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have the relpy!:


 * "Hello.


 * We are currently working on fixing an intermittent server problem that is causing malformed CSS to be sent to your browser, causing a wiki's custom CSS to be ignored. It is only a temporary problem. Nothing needs to be changed on the wiki. Please be patient while we fix this.


 * Regards,
 * Regards,


 * Chris "Uberfuzzy" Stafford
 * Wikia Community Support Team" 10:36, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Alright ! I hope it won't be a long wait. ^_^ 10:37, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Jiminy Cricket's New English VA
Guess What Guys, I Discoverd That Phil Snyder, Known as the Man of a Million Voices, Has Comfirmed To Do The Voice of Jiminy Cricket. Plus, He's Voicing the Character in the english version of Kingdom Hearts: Coded for the first time. Also, Kingdom Hearts: Coded is being Released in NA Under The Remake title, Kingdom Hearts Recoded. --Kingdom210 09:49, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait, just where did you get that information ? 09:53, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

From Phil's Official Site, PHILSNYDER.net
 * Alright. I'm getting there. If the reference is pretty obvious, I'll put it as a cite note. Do note that if it's not obvious enough, we're taking that bit of information down (for now). And what about the bit on Recoded ? 09:59, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

It's True, Go Check it Out.
 * As long as you can provide me a source, I won't doubt its truth. I'm asking you again, where did you get the bit on Recoded ? 10:02, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'm Saying Go to His Site! Again, PHILSnyder.net.
 * Okay. I'm there. Internet's lagging, I can't get there. Yet, the Bing search results say it loud and clear. Can anyone please check the URL out for me and put the cite note in, AND DO NOT UNDO KINGDOM210'S EDIT PLEASE ! 10:07, June 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * EDIT 10:11, June 6, 2010 (UTC) : Done. Thanks for the ref. I put it in. Anymore sources on Recoded, please let us know. ^_^ 10:11, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

World infobox
I've made a new World infobox that combines many of the sub templates we've been using (I.e., the world directory and World Music templates), as well as the various world and logo images, and the IL links. You can see it in use at Traverse Town and Hollow Bastion. Glorious  CHAOS!  00:47, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Something I noticed...
I found interesting the fact that all kingdoms hearts (except coded) feature 2 male protagonists and one female protagonist. I wonder if we could work with that somehow. BGMaxie


 * CoM? Unless you mean Namine, who is an antagonist in the early game. Or KHII, in which you have a whole mess of male protagonists, and then Kairi doing about zip s***. Glorious  CHAOS!  01:10, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

And the youngest male protagonist (Sora, Roxas, Ventus) is the hero. The oldest (Riku, Axel, Terra) is the anti-hero, by choice or not. The gal (Kairi, Xion, Aqua) is... well... idk. There's a shit pot load of that in anime. CLARKMASTER! 01:26, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

I mean how can we make this info useful in some way. Then again yeah.....you got a poin there :S BGMaxie

I know this is old but in FMA the Scar JP VA is Terra.--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 21:43, August 13, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman

Mysterious Tower Battle Music BBS
Can Anyone Post the batte music "Working Together" From Birth By Sleep? Not the Kingdom Hearts II Version.

Trinity Report
Can Someone here Post the Entire Trinity Report, Also Post it On YouTube? I Wanna Se All of it. Characters, Unversed, Treasure Chests, Ect. --Kingdom210 13:54, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts III
I got a feeling it will be announced on E3. What do you think?

No KH3, fansites mistranslated again:
Game Informer 207;
 * Bryan Vore: "Translations of your interview in the Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep Ultimania seem to confirm that Kingdom Hearts III is coming along with two other games."
 * Tetsuya Nomura: "Kingdom Hearts III is not a confirmed titles. I actually phrased my answer for the Ultimania "two titles other than III" to avoid speculation that we were working on Kingdom Hearts III."
 * Bryan Vore: "Are there any hints you can provide about these games?"
 * Tetsuya Nomura: "Hints would give away too much, and for Kingdom Hearts we're contractually obligated to keep any information that has not been officially released under wraps. However, I can say one of the two projects mentioned above came into existence because we wanted to do something for the North American fans, so we'll be announcing it at E3."

KH BBS Official English Trailer
thumb|300px|right Hey Guys, The Official English Trailer Of BbS Is Now Online! Check It Out. --Kingdom210 11:34, June 15, 2010 (UTC) I Heard the Voices in The Trailer, Go Check It Out. --Kingdom210 11:53, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, is that Haley doing Vanita's voice? It sure doesn't sound like him, if it is. --Gypseian 03:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Check Out The Official BBS VA Discussion in the Kingdom Hearts Insider Forums. --Kingdom210 19:48, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why? Glorious  CHAOS!  21:04, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Because It Shows The New Confirmed Actors. --Kingdom210 21:10, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I checked it, but the only names it has that we don't, it doesn't have sources for. It's just the same "it totally sounds like him!" nonsense that we've had to protect pages to avoid. Glorious  CHAOS!  21:19, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Edit Count
Shouldn't the edit count be updated with the walktrough?

...Forget what I said(or, typed) Keyblade0 02:25, July 16, 2010 (UTC)Keyblade0

New KH BBS Trailer
Hey Everyone, Gamespot Released A New Trailer of Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep! --Kingdom210 20:23, July 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Link please? -- 20:31, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Here's the Link: http://www.gamespot.com/psp/rpg/kingdomheartsbirthbysleep/video/6269498/kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep-exclusive-trailer

Can we put this video on the BBS article?--Keyblade0 01:17, July 20, 2010 (UTC)Keyblade0

Ask a moderator. I think it should.--Memorized


 * It would be better to just link it to the Talk:Birth by Sleep page. We're trying to avoid videos as of now, I think. -- 02:00, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Dead Fantasy Response
Sure we'd love to affiliate ourselves with you guys. Although our websites small, any help in getting the Dead Fantasy product out would be greatly appreciated....

Somebodies?
I've seen that on several pages for worlds, under their 'Enemies' sections, there's a category for 'Somebodies'. I have no problem calling the complete halves of Nobodies Somebodies (though I personally prefer calling them 'Others'), wouldn't it be better to refer to them as just 'Humans'? Just a suggestion, seems more accurate, especially since most don't have Nobodies. Phoenix of the Darkness 23:57, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Scar's not a human. Nor are the Card Soldiers, Ursula, or 50% of the somebodies in the series. Glorious  CHAOS!  04:38, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Seems to me that this is just a term somebody made up. I'm for removing this category. Xerruy 01:08, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is used more than once in the series (at least once by Axel). It's not a great term but it's the best official one we've got right now. Go here for more about this issue.01:28, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hm, okay. I must admit I'm not very familiar with all the side games as I don't have the consoles they're on. Xerruy 17:54, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * You should probably do research before declaring something to be made-up, but oh well. Glorious  CHAOS!  19:13, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

RE: your galleries
I notice at:

http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Sora#Forms/Costumes

The galleries are normal. As you may or may not know, they really messed up the galleries, causing a lot of frustration and anger. See:

http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Sarah_Manley/Design_your_own_photo_galleries

An editor wrote:


 * I checked with the custom CSSs and KHWiki do not have one. Everyone else who's dissatisfied can check and see one of the example pages, because Wikia seems to have overlook this.


 * I wish to highlight that one of the Wikis, the Kingdom Hearts Wiki apparently managed to keep their old Wikipedia-style Gallery intact. How can they not be affected?

So how did you all doe this ? I would be dying to know because I despise the new galleries too. Please message me on my talk page with a response, or let me know when you responded here. Thank you. Anno1404 01:01, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Extra worlds?
Some of my edits regarding character home worlds were just reverted. I changed the home world of Santa Claus to Halloween Town (it was Christmas Town) and of Hades and Pain and Panic to Olympus Coliseum (it said Underworld). The reason is that Christmas Town and the Underworld are treated as areas of Halloween Town and the Olympus Coliseum, respectively. They are not worlds in themselves and as such should not be listed as home worlds on character pages (unless one would change "home world" to something that would encompass areas within worlds). The reverts were justified by stating that these are "parallel worlds, story wise", but this is original research. I understand that it looks better aesthetically to list Hades's home world as the Underworld and Santa's as Christmas Town, but they're not worlds.


 * 1) They do not have their own section in Jiminy's Journal in KHII.
 * 2) They do not have their own logo (every world has an introductory scene where its logo is shown).
 * 3) They and are not listed as worlds anywhere on this Wiki.
 * 4) The menu still says "Olympus Coliseum" and "Halloween Town", respectively.

They may be seperate worlds in the films they originate from, but within the context of KH they are not (the Clock Tower in Neverland is another good example).

If you want to list Hades's home world as the Underworld, by that logic you might as well list Barbossa's home world as Isla de Muerta and Ursula's home world as Ursula's Grotto.

Xerruy 21:24, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

They are considered separate worlds story wise.
 * Unless the game states so, that's original research. Xerruy 21:56, July 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) Ursula's Grotto (which isn't a thing, you mean "Ursula's Lair") is part of Atlantica, even in the story.
 * 2) Story-wise, the Coliseum is treated as the "in the clouds" area (ex: "These days Phil is busy running the Coliseum and screening contestants for", "Underworld Map, Caverns Map, Coliseum Map". Or, you could read the Olympus Coliseum story in the journal)
 * 3) Same thing with Halloween Town. The actual script of the game is never so stupid as to say that Christmas Town is part of Halloween Town - yes, gameplay wise, they are one planet. However, according to the plot, Halloween Town and Christmas Town are parallel.
 * 4) Barbossa doesn't live on Isla de Muerta, and in fact, the first time you see him is at the normal port town. However, no single part of Port Royal is delineated as being the true Port Royal, as far as I know - it is used to apply to the entire planetoid. (ex: "In Port Royal, Luxord used Heartless and the cursed medallions to conduct experiments on the Organization's behalf and collect hearts.")

In regards to your definition of a world - kingdom hearts and dive to the heart are clearly separate worlds, but do not get their own logo or section in the journal. Neither does Castle Oblivion in Days, nor Destiny Islands (I may be wrong, but I don't think that any world gets an introductory cutscene in Days). However, Christmas Town and Underworld ARE listed as sub-worlds on this wiki.

Finally, your list misses the pretty basic point that I said "story-wise", not "game-mechanic wise", so it's a waste of time in any case. Glorious  CHAOS!  23:29, July 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Dive to the Heart is a dream, isn't it? Even if that's not true, your analogy is wrong. DttH isn't just not listed as a world, it's not listed at all! Not as a world OR an area. Therefore you can't really determine what it is, so it's of no use in challenging my definition of a world (well, "my" definition - I'm just going by how it is represented in the game). Kingdom Hearts isn't encountered until the final boss fight, so it's impossible for it to be in the Journal (just like the Bit Sniper - you never get the chance to look at the Journal after seeing it).
 * My point with the Barbossa and Ursula examples was not that these were their actual home residences, but that world subsections/areas are not listed under "home world". We don't list Ursula's Lair as Ursula's home world, so we don't list Christmas Town as Santa's home world. There is no difference in how Ursula's Lair and Christmas Town are presented within the context of KH.
 * The plot does not state they are parallel worlds, that's your interpretation and that's original research.
 * You proved my point by stating that "Port Royal" refers to the entire planetoid (I take it you mean world by that). "Halloween Town" also refers to the entire planetoid, including Christmas Town. CT is not a seperate planetoid, it's part of the planetoid - the world - Halloween Town. That may not be the way in the story it is derived from (The Nightmare Before Christmas), but that's the way it's been incorporated into KH. Mind you, I'm not saying it makes sense - it also makes no sense for the Clock Tower to be a part of Neverland, but that's how the game treats it so that's the way it is.
 * Imagine if New York State was a world in KH just like Halloween Town or the Coliseum, consisting of NYC (Halloween Town/the actual Coliseum) and Albany (Christmas Town/the Underworld). The home "world" of someone from Albany would still be referred to as New York, even though NYC and Albany are two distinct cities. I know this analogy isn't perfect but I hope you get the point I'm making.
 * If the Underworld and CT are listed/mentioned as sub-worlds on this Wiki, that should be changed since it's original research. They're areas in worlds, that's how they are presented in the game and there is nothing that isn't original research that refutes that. Just because you're interpreting the plot in a certain way doesn't make it so. Xerruy 00:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Dive to the Heart is listed for KH1 and KH2, in both the bradygames and Ultimanias. It's room names also appear in the game's pause screen. Whatever the circumstances of the Kingdom Hearts, the point is is that the game does not always show the logo/video, if there is something preventing it.
 * 2) Ursula's Lair is considered part of Atlantica by the story.
 * 3) It very explicitly states and treats them as separate worlds. Again, please read the game script or journal transcript - they always say stuff like "We went from Halloween Town to Christmas Town", etc.
 * 4) The game mechanics treat CT as part of HT. HOWEVER, Story-wise, it is just another world accessible from HT, just like 100 Acre Wood is accessible from Radiant Garden, or TWTNW from Twilight Town - HT and CT even have a convenient wormhole, through the trees.
 * 5) Your analogy is completely faulty. New York City != New York State.
 * 6) They are absolutely presented as distinct from the "logoed" world.

Finally, (1) Original research is not prohibited on this wiki, speculation is. If we banned OR, we'd not have any more info here than wikipedia did. (2) You need to provide sources for your assertions, by the way. Glorious  CHAOS!  05:26, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

As for OR, how about you provide a source stating that it is allowed on this Wiki? Genertally Wikipedia's also apply to other Wikis. What allows this Wiki to have far more info on KH than Wikipedia is not the useage of OR, but the fact that since this Wiki is devoted to KH we are allowed to write "in-universe" and can go into far more into detail than would be considered encyclopedic on the main Wikipedia (for instance, seperate pages for all the KH worlds would not be allowed on thje main Wikipedia but are allowed here, allowing us to put a lot more info into them). Xerruy 12:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) What Galexgan said.
 * 2) You're still missing my point. My point is not that Ursula's Lair is not a part of Atlantica (it ís, part of it, I'm not disputing that). My point is that world areas are not listed as home worlds for characters.
 * 3) What Galexgan said. Besides, what you quote doesn't say CT is a seperate world.
 * 4) Idem.
 * 5) "The city is often referred to as New York City or the City of New York to distinguish it from the state of New York, of which it is a part." How was my analogy faulty again?
 * 6) How's that?

Galexgan: You're calling me a liar because the citations I provide disagree with you, but you're so monumentally lazy that you refuse to look up any other citations yourself. Please leave the discussion, because you are wasting everyone's time.

Xerruy: There is no point in just saying "idem", especially if you don't make it clear what you are referring to.


 * 1) The official, licensed guides each say that the Dive to the Heart is it's own world. Saying "Well, the official material could be completely wrong" is an empty argument.
 * 2) Ursula's Lair is canonically part of Atlantica, in every possible sense. It is not a valid analogy by any means. A better source would be Agrabah versus the Cave of Wonders, which are also treated as distinct in the games and movies (For example, the city areas have "Agrabah: Room name", and the CoW areas have "Cave of Wonders: Room name". As for your claim that "world areas are not listed as home worlds", yes, they definitely are. Anywhere that says "Hollow Bastion" uses a world area name, as does the articles where your edits were reverted.
 * 3) Isla de Muerta is not separated, story wise, from "Port Royal". If I'm wrong on this, provide a source. However, the game absolutely says CT is a separate place. They "go from Olympus Coliseum to the Underworld", they "go from Halloween Town to Christmas Town". CT is physically separate from HT, and is accessed through a wormhole from HT, just like TWTNW from Twilight Town, yes, they are both listed under Halloween Town planetoid, but it is obvious that is because they are from the same movie.
 * 4) NYC IS NOT NYS, IT IS A SMALL PART OF NYS. Halloween Town is Halloween Town. There is no "Halloween Town State" nor "Halloween Town City", and neither the games nor movies have ever claimed there were.
 * 5) I provided multiple quotes from the game, and pointed you two towards where more would be. Provide something from the games that backs up your claim, or accept the citations presented.

I never said OR was prohibited. Do you guys understand what OR is? If this wiki banned OR, we would not be allowed to write ANYTHING that hadn't already been written in a reliable third party source, like the New York Times or an IGN article. We would not have any game stats, or list character's home worlds, or any of that, unless Professional Journalist Pete Penciller had already written it and had it published in major syndication. Glorious  CHAOS!  14:30, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, they're part of the same "planetoid". And that planetoid is called "Halloween Town" (same for the Coliseum), which is where my NY analogy comes in (which Galexgan understood correctly). Hollow Bastion and Radiant Garden are the same thing by the way, RG being its original name as Aerith said. But I think that's a different matter entirely. Xerruy 15:38, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is a simple debate. However, if you are not willing to put any work into researching your claims, and you're going to fling baseless accusations of lying, you need to leave.
 * Hollow Bastion is the castle. Anyone from the castle is from Hollow Bastion.
 * That "logic" does not disprove anything, as it is completely inapplicable to the discussion at hand. For example, your kitchen is not your house.
 * I'm not disputing that Halloween Town and Christmas Town are presented as part of the same "planetoid". However, within the game script, "Halloween Town" only ever refers to the town of the dead, never the Christmas portion. That is and has been the entire point of this discussion. Glorious  CHAOS!  02:27, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand your analogy. It is not analogous to the situation, and it is not supported by the game script. There is nothing in the story to indicate that there is any kind of "Halloween State" which contains "Christmas Town", and that claim is in fact directly contradictory to the plot. I really wish you would, just for one second, actually find some sources, instead of throwing meaningless and irrelevant "analogies" at me.
 * Hollow Bastion and Radiant Garden are not the same thing. Hollow Bastion is the castle itself - when Radiant Garden fell, only the castle remained, and that was all that people could remember. When the full world was restored due to Sora, people remembered the name of the world itself. Glorious  CHAOS!  18:24, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, if you think my heart is "too weak to see the truth", Galexgan, how about you actually do some work and present a single source, i.e., truth? Glorious  CHAOS!  03:22, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're taking the analogy too literally. The "state" is the planetoid. As I have already said the game script doesn't really say anything about this one way or the other; I already posted other proof earlier (e.g. the menu, Journal sections, logo scene). I'm not going to post screenshots of those because I assume you own KHII just like I do. Also, how about we take this down a couple of notches? I'm talking to Galexgan and KrytenKoro. This is a simple disagreement, no need to make it any bigger than that. Xerruy 13:58, July 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) Again, Xerruy, I fully understand that the game mechanics do not differentiate between Christmas Town/Halloween Town, Olympus Coliseum/Underworld. The character infoboxes, which this whole thing are about, are fundamentally story-based. The home world box even more so (it is where they are from, not which world you can talk to them on). Using gameplay definitions is completely irrelevant.
 * 2) As I've posted and said over and over, the plot and script always differentiates between HT/CT, OC/UW. CT is never said to be part of HT, UW is never said to be part of OC.
 * 3) If you disagree with this, post sources proving me wrong (it should be quite easy if you're right, as I'm claiming a negative - you have to show just one positive). However, the constant analogies to your claim are useless, since they have no actual evidence behind them and are largely inaccurate, and there really is no point to continuing this discussion until you guys find some sources. Glorious  CHAOS!  15:04, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is ridiculous.


 * Hades - Homeworld: Olympus Coliseum (Underworld)
 * Santa Clause - Homeworld: Halloween Town (Christmas Town)

You guys are in a huge debate that's getting nowhere. Quite frankly, i agree with Kryten. But if we're going to get snippy and technical, My suggestion above is a simple solution. -- 00:30, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I like LA's solution. The decision why SE didn't seperate some worlds (even if they are by story logic) is cleary a gameplay decision. That's why The Mysterious Tower is seperated from Twilight Town in BBS.--ShardofTruth 10:32, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and implemented LA's solution.
 * Just to clarify, though, Jiminy was referring to how Halloween Town was decked out in Christmas decorations, as is referenced in the opening cutscene. Glorious  CHAOS!  11:34, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is a good compromise. Xerruy 01:19, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Speculation Page
What if we make a speculation and theory page, including with facts whose answers are already confirmed and facts which aren't answered.

For Example:

Who is the BHK from Anotehr Side, another Story (Deep Dive)?

Possible answers:

- It's Tidus - It's a new character

Confirmed Answer:

It's a new character called Roxas, the nobody of Sora.

Or:

When Terra encounters young Riku from behind, he can see a young Guy (later confirmed as Master Xeanort in his youth) and Riku in several years later (Kingdom Hearts II design). What could that mean?

Possible ansers:

- This shall show a connection between Riku, Terra and Master Xehanort, since Master Xehanort is from Destiny Island like Riku and Terra resembles Master Xehanort in his youth - There is not really a connection, but Square-Enix wants us to make some tension - Nothing. It was just a phenomen

I don't want a page, so that everybody can post a random speculation, but a lot of Wikis does have a speculation-page, so why shouldn't there be one in this, too?

We could safe the page, so that only admins or mods can edit the it. Zyrax 23:00, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

There is absolutely no point in including information that already has a confirmed explaination. It ceases to be speculation at that point. As for the idea of the page itself, if everyone was allowed to post every theory that crossed their minds, it would be an absolute mess of a page. If only staffers could edit it as you suggested, that simply wouldn't be fair. We have the Twilight Town forums for this sort of thing specifically.23:16, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Bug Blocks
I just wondering if we can create pages on the different types of bug blocks after Kingdom Hearts Re:coded comes out in Japan. In the video shown below, there are more types of blocks whan in the original Coded. There are:Blocks that combine into one(Which gives Sora SP), Purple and Yellow Blocks with stars on them, disappearing and reappearing blocks, electric-looking blocks that damage Sora on contact, etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtalG59Cnyk

It would probably be better to mention them on the main Bug Block page rather than create whole articles for each of them, but yeah, they should be noted once we get more info.19:03, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

The countdown is wrong
Can somebody fix it? The text's gone all funny, with the actual timer part having vanished into the aether. 82.37.246.236 07:14, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * It looks fine to me... Is anyone else experiencing problems? 09:55, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

When I'm logged in, it looks fine. But, if I log out, the countdown section looks like this: Only September 7 2010 00:06 UTCThe North American release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep is on the 7th of September! GMT until the North American release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep! Just that, and no actual countdown.

Same here. It looks normal when your logged in but when you log out its messed up. 18:23, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's actually a function of how wikia handles non-logged users. There is no way to fix it from our end. Glorious  CHAOS!  23:02, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Rich text editing
There is no rich text editing. :(Yuffie, the Great Ninja MASTER!!! 23:20, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

It screwed up the coding of the pages and added a bunch of random spaces everywhere from what I understand. We had to reqeust that it be disabled.23:28, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Repetitive
I've noticed that some of the FF and Disney characters oh their original appearances (be it movies or games) in their main section. So, my question is if it is already in the Origin section is it truly needed? I'm just curious. Venitus 18:28, August 17, 2010 (UTC)