Talk:Terra/Archive 1

Videos
I've noticed how on some pages they put videos up for the xtra boss fights mainly on organization XIII and I was wondering if we could do the same for the other characters, not sure wether or not this is the right page for that Hazesky 01:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC) Hazesky

Nelo: go ahead, though I think the Admin wants the "non-blury" ones.

I'll see if i can find one and if i do how do you add them to a site pageHazeskyHazesky

I found a link but how do I upload it Hazesky Hazesky

added video but I couldn't find one with cut scenes so it's just the fight for now Ejud10 02:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

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make it smaller, like 250 px.

That's freakin amazing, if you did a better job, I'd mail you a cookie.

Well. I could say they're almost similar. By the way, just a slight deviation, Drake : how'd you create that speech-bubble-like thing ? Troisnyxetienne 01:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The ffwiki ,made it, and uh there are instructions http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Help:FAQ#Talk_Bubbles here

Thanks Zack Fair ! :D Troisnyxetienne 07:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Something's not right. Whenever I want to create the template:TroisnyxetienneText, it doesn't seem to work. I created a template - a link was formed instead. Anything I should do? Troisnyxetienne 07:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Terra, Then Xehanort, Then Ansem
I know people hate theories but I have a strong feeling I've got this right:

Terra was a keyblade master with Ven and Aqua under Master Xehanort. Then for some reason Master Xehanort and his apprentice go missing and Terra, Ven and Aqua set out to find them. During their search, (or possibley after since they apparently found them as seen in the Birth By Sleep secret ending) something happens to Ven and Aqua, and Terra falls to the Darkness and takes the name of his old master, Xehanort. Then Terra/Xehanort somehow finds his way to Ansem the Wise and becomes his apprentice along with Braig, Dilan, Even, and Ienzo. Then through the events of the Ansem Reports, he banishes Ansem the Wise and takes his old master's name once again. Willingly giving up his heart to the darkness, he becomes Ansem(Xehanort's Heartless) and Xemnas(Xehanort's Nobody). The Enigmatic Soldier in Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ could be many things, Xemnas in disguise, a ghost or spirit of some sort, or possibley just a sneak peek of what's to come in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep. This would also explain why Xemnas calls Aqua's armor and keyblade "friend" because Terra and Aqua where friends (or at least on good terms) in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep...........So, what does everyone think?

Maybe so. I've noticed that Xemnas, who was the optional boss for Kingdom Hearts Final Mix, was the main antagonist for Kingdom Hearts II. If this trend is followed by Tetsuya Nomura, then Terra, who is the optional boss for Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+, could very well be the Xehanort we all come to know and love - um, hate - um, whatever. And, if this theory is followed - that each person has a heart, body and soul (when divided, would form a Heartless, Nobody and Unbirth) - then this may be the Unbirth of Terra (I'm not saying it is). Also, Xehanort had no prior memory of what he was, but it seems he appeared after a great Keyblade War ended.

On another note, the theory may not be true, on three accounts :

- Take a good look at the image of Xehanort in Ansem's Study in Radiant Garden. Yes, their hairstyles are similar, and it is rumoured that Terra's hair turns white while his eyes turn amber towards the end of Birth By Sleep, BUT... Terra has blue eyes while Xehanort has brown eyes.

- Also, in the previous Kingdom Hearts, when we look at the reports written by the fake Ansem, i.e. Xehanort's Heartless, he is rather inquisitive about the Keyblade, saying that it is mysterious, also quoting that some people say it is used for the restoration of the worlds ; others say it was used for destruction, and he doesn't seem to know the nature of the Keyblade. Xehanort's Heartless comes to Destiny Islands in the brown robe at the beginning of Kingdom Hearts to tap Sora's power as the wielder of the Keyblade - had Terra actually been Xehanort, he wouldn't have done that as he knows the power of the Keyblade, he himself is a Keyblade master. (Or could it all be pretence ?) And according to Ansem's Secret Reports, a Nobody would usually take on the form of the soul. If the Terra we fought in Kingdom Hearts II were an Unbirth, methinks he should look like Xemnas - but Terra looks nothing like Xemnas.

- Terra and Ven were friends. If Terra were Xehanort and Xemnas - the same person, he'd have known the true nature of Sora and Roxas, and in both cases, wouldn't seek to eliminate him (Xehanort wanted to kill Sora to extract Kairi's heart and open the final Keyhole ; Xemnas instructed Axel to eliminate Roxas if he didn't rejoin the Organization). After all, Sora, Roxas and Ven are connected. (A possible counter-argument to this is the fact that Ven told Terra, "You're my friend, right ? Erase me." This may have led Xehanort and Xemnas to do the same to Sora and Roxas.) Troisnyxetienne 10:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

How could he have known the true nature of Sora and Roxas if he became Xehanort? Xehanort lost all his memories in Radiant Garden so he doesn't know them anymore Romeo$JoKer 23:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Romeo$Joker

You forgot Aeleus in your theory, who later became Lexaeus.Winxfan1 13:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

Terra or Lingering Sentiment?
It has never been officially stated that Terra is the Lingering Sentiment. So, all info on Terra's alleged KH2FM appearance has been moved into a new topic.

Which IS the new topic ? --Troisnyxetienne 02:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

It's The Lingering Sentiment

Thanks! I'll go check it out. Troisnyxetienne 01:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

It's only speculation that Terra is the Lingering Sentiment, hence the information stating that Terra is the Lingering Sentiment should stay off this page until a confirmation. And seeing as that video depicts the Lingering Sentiment, and not Terra, it should also remain off of this page.

Rank
I've just noticed his emblem is a different colour from Ven's and Aqua's meaning he may be a higher rank of keyblade warrior or whatever. It's also in a different place.  Myself 123  23:22, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

It's on his belt whilsts Ven's and Aqua's are on thier chests. It kinda looks like a heart.  Myself 123  13:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)



I don't know, i still think it's MX's appretice even if it is too obvious.  Myself 123  19:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Is terra wearing a dress? o.0(Sora) (Soa) R) (Sa) Rox) (S) Roxa) (Roxas) 09:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

looks like Samuri trousers to me.  Myself 123  16:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

First of all troisnyxetienne (is that it?) how does "Your not half the hero the others were" indicate that he PARTICIPATED in the fight? Maybe he was an observer? I mean when you see the birth by sleep video with say, a giant pillar no pillars of rock, a a storm of keyblades, (you only use two in superform) people being frozen solid MX wieling a giant keyblade with a battleaxe head in ONE hand; not to mention the "Lingering Sentiment's" Transformations and then look at Sora there is a noticible difference Oh and i know who Xehanort is.

You know what would be funny and unexpected? Terra was the good guy and Ven and Aqua turned out to be the bad guys!!! I would love to see that. Augment96 04:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure who you're talking to me or augment96. I haven't confused sora and ven and I simply don't see any indication that Braig participated in the fight. I mean you can tell Sephiroth is Badass and he's not kicking your ass. (well he is but...) Oh, and it's obvious who Xehanort is. Xehanort is Xehanort. Dun DUN DUUUUUNNNNN

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND: XEHANORT IS XEHANORT'S SECRET IDENTITY Seriously you guys are over-thinking this

Well, Xigbar looks like the oldest menber of the org as his hair is going gray as opposed to being naturly grey.  Myself 123  22:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I find this interesting on the whole Xehanort's Identity issue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S1cIb2MUrM Ven?

Why would Terra think sora is Xehanort?

Sora:"I may no longer be me? how could i be anyone else?"

Isn't it confirmed by Nomura that xicbar saw them?Also in one of the new cutscenes in kh2 fm xigbar says that after the warriors weilding keyblades vanished a man who had lost his memory appeared meaning Xeanort.--74.210.24.180 05:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Fate of Terra
At the end of the video, Terra's eyes become like a yellowish gold, similar to the Heartless right? Well I was thinking, since the Heartless didn't exist in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep, could that mean that Terra could have became the VERY first Heartless? --SS INFINITY 20:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Nice, ive never heard that theory but im not sure that heartless didnt exsist i mean maybe the Emblem heartless didnt exsist but purebloods i always imagine have been around for as long as the darkness has.--Ximodnic 21:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I was thinking of. Xehanort was said to discover the Heartless, but as far as we know the Heartless could have existed prior to that. Or that's what I believe. --SS INFINITY 00:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, if you know about darkness, you know that when darkness stains a persons heart, it can turn there skin tan, and there eyes a golden amber color. Your heart becomes stained by using darkness frequently, this stain is not easily removed, and will remain even after someone stops using darkness. I think that Terra's eyes were becoming amber because he was about to use his darkness to defeat Xehanort. Also, there were no heartless in the Realm of Light prior to the experiments done by Xehanort. There was darkness in human hearts, but none to the point of them becoming heartless themselves. This is stated by Nomura, hence why the only enemies in Birth by Sleep are the Unversed. Terra didn't become the first heartless, because heartless always existed in the Realm of Darkness. However, I think that Terra becomes the Xehanort that was Ansems apprentice. This would explain his amber eyes, his tan skin, the same hair style. Also, his hair could have been turned white due to a traumatic experience in the final battle against Master Xehanort. Perhaps his hair turning white could be another effect of a dark stain on the heart? --Ookami zetsumei 4:52, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Just a theory, but considering the parallels between Sora/Roxas/Ven, and Kairi and Aqua's physical resemblance to each other, is it possible that Terra is a reprizentation of Riku? Besides the similar meaning of thier names, Terra has been suspected to "fall into darkness", and so did Riku at the beginning of KH1. And Terra's goals are questionable as are his methods, and so were Riku's initial ideas in KH1. Its a long shot, but maybe. 67.142.161.32 01:20, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Main Image
Hey, maybe your right (to the guy who left a theory about Terra being Xehanort, etc.. But you seem to dismiss your own theory because Terra would have known all these things, when it has been confirmed that Ansem the Wise found someone that had LOST THEIR MEMORY, and named him Xehanort as it was the only thing he could remember. This would make a lot of sense if Terra was Xehanort like you said.

Terra and Lingering Sentiment
http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/scenario-mysteries-interview/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVtfLp7nHdM&feature=related

Why would terra think sora is Xehanort?He's not a vaguely bishounen Mad scientist or a Bald old keyblade master.

Terra=Saix?
I dunno. Just kinda drawin' a comparison here.

Their hairstyles are a bit similar. Both appear to transform when staring into Kingdom Hearts and of course: Terra - Master Xehanort and Saix - Xemnas Kaihedgie 20:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that is possible since saix has an i in his name and terra doesn't.--74.210.24.180 21:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think Xemnas proves that means almost nothing. (I personally don't think this theory holds much weight; just being devil's advocate here...)—Urutapu 00:17, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Now when i first saw an image of Terra i to thought of Saix but i think thats just me love for Saix seeping in, For one Saix knew Axel and joined the Organisation later. If Terra was Saix chances are he would have joined when Xemnas created it. As much as id love to see Saix as one of the most mysterious characters i feel it isnt him.Ximodnic 00:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Eye colour
When terra's eyes change they turn yellow like master xnorts but are different compared to xemnas/xnorts heartless and ansem the wise which has more of a orange glow to them.--74.210.24.180 05:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

terra and xemnas
ok so is it possible that xemnas and terra could be linked because of their "friend"? i was just watching a video and it talked about xemnas tlking to aquas armor and called it his friend and how terra was abut to battle MX when he said "I have a friend". so just thought id put it out there.

I have friends too. :P It's possible, I mean if Terra does indeed become the Xehanort we love to hate, then I'm sure it's possible that somewhere down the line as Xemnas he remembers Aqua. Or remembers a little, but not a lot. Like her name, it could be taken that he knows her so well that it's polite to call her friend, or maybe he doesn't remember. Or maybe Terra's talking about Ven, who knows? Adam 148 19:03, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Terra ≠ the Lingering Sentiment: The Ultimate Proof
As stated in the Ultimania, when asked about Birth by Sleep, Nomura said and I quote:

"This game is set the farthest in the past of any other, so it connects to Kingdom Hearts, but the main characters are three that haven’t appeared in the other games."

This is even on the BbS page for goodness sake. So there you have it. Please make the appropriate modifications. Kthnxbai!

Inaccurate Info
The info under the plot seems completely made-up, and the same goes for Ven and Aqua too. It should be generalized much more.

He's probably refering to the fact that the plot section is saying that they visited the worlds in a certian order without actual prove, actually it would be better to just erase everything and leave a brief summary of the overall story until the game comes out in January--Masgrande 01:17, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean Inacurate info!? What about the scans?! Cococrash11

Terra
to the guy who said that Nomura stated that the main characters of Birth by Sleep are not in the other games what about Terra in Final Mix?
 * That means in the strictest sense, the Lingering Sentiment isn't Terra. He could be some kind of manifestation of his regret or anger or something else, but he's not technically Terra.—Urutapu 19:22, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Nomura said that in the KHII Ultimania which came out before KHII Final Mix--Masgrande 01:20, October 8, 2009 (UTC)