Forum:Xion-Aqua Connection

Hey everyone. This is my first post and I fully intend to help improve this wiki as well as I can so wish me luck. Anyway. I noticed when looking at Xion's and Aqua's pages and noticed that they share the same Japanese Seiyu (Megumi Tegouchi.) Now I do remember reading somewhere that Aqua and Xion share some sort of connection (along with Kairi and Namine.) Ans now they have the same VA? Coincidence? I think not. Any Ideas on what it could be?

So, Xion and Aqua are the same person? But doesn't Xion have black hair while Aqua have blue hair? But I heard that Xion has a connection to Kairi, not Aqua. Augment96 03:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

No No I just said that they have the same japanese voice actor. Not that we were the same person. I am just thinking what there connection was?

So, what other connection could there be? They're related? Xion is Aqua's nobody? Aqua is Xion's Unbirth? Augment96 23:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Voice actors ain't got nothin' to do with relationships. That would also have to mean that Sora and Roxas would have the same voice actor so that falls all outta placeKaihedgie 18:05, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

But the theory that Xion and Aqua being the same person still makes sense, to a degree.

Not really /: Kaihedgie 23:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Then what? What is the connection between Xion and Aqua? Augment96 00:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Absolutely nothing. They don't even have the same etymology. You really cannot connect Xion through Kairi just because of shared name meanings nor has Nomura hinted at a relationship or anything like that. I guess I could see SOMETHING with Terra and Xehanort, but Aqua and Xion is shooting too far. Kaihedgie 00:43, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

There is a connection between the two. They look similar. Xion and Aqua have the same voice actress. Xion has the same connection to Aqua that Roxas has to Ven. Kairi somehow connects Aqua to Xion. The three are connected in some way or other. The similiar name meanings shows that there is a relationship between the two. The similiar name meanings are the hints. It's not shooting too far. Saying something like "Sora's Ven's son.", now that is shooting too far. Augment96 01:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

That's what they said about Riku and Terra, but neither look alike. And as I've said in the other forums, looks does not necessarily equal relationships. So what if they have the same voice actor and how the heck can Xion look like Aqua when not only does they hair sharply contrast each other, they don't even have the same facial features D: Same voice actor does NOT equal relations/connections. Kaihedgie 01:22, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

So, they don't look alike. They can still have a connection. Similarity in looks suggests a relationship. So, it's just a coincidence that they have the same voice actress? PLEASE!!!!!!! There are no coincidences in Kingdom Hearts. Only unanswered questions. To me, they look alike. The only difference is the hair color. Same voice actor suggests what, then? That the Kingdom Hearts staff lacks money and they're reusing the voice actors to save money? Augment96 01:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Bleh. They don't. They simply don't. In addition, have you even looked closely at their hairstyles and then compared the two?. And yes, there are coincidences. You would have to explain as to why both Sora and Roxas had to fight Shadow versions of themselves. Especially Roxas, who is a Nobody. In addition, you'd have to explain connections between characters such as Reno and Axel or Terra and Zack. Case in point: Nomura 'recycled' his designs and this is not the first time he's done it either. You also need to take in account that we still know little of what the Unbirths are. Kaihedgie 01:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I think they do. There's no way to prove me wrong until the game actually comes out. The only difference I see between them is the hairstyle. Other than that, they look the same, at least to me. I don't want to believe that the similarities are just coincidences. I can't explain. But I can come up with theories. Heartless take up many, many different shapes as they consume more and more hearts. And I believe that after a heartless consumes a very large number of hearts, the heartless will look more and more like a human. And instead of coming up with an original look, the heartless will resemble another person like Sora or Roxas. It doesn't matter that Roxas is a nobody. To a heartless, nobodies are just "humans" without hearts. Augment96 03:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

There may be connections between them or not. So what if I can't come up with an explanation? There could be an explanation. I just can't figure it out. Nomura didn't recycle his designs. He based new characters on the old character designs: Like Lightning from FF13 and Cloud. Besides, characters like Reno and Zack aren't in Kingdom Hearts, for now anyway. So, there doesn't have to be an connection. BUT Xion and Aqua are in Kingdom Hearts. So there has to be a connection. It doesn't matter that there is little information on the Unbirths. What we're talking about RIGHT NOW is Aqua, Xion, and Kairi and the connection between them. Although, there is a good chance that at least one of the Chasers is an Unbirth. Augment96 03:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Boy have you got it wrong XD.

You can come up with so many theories and you'd still be far from right. In addition, it was never implied or stated that Xehanort's Heartless gained a human form from consuming hearts. A Heartless' form is determined by the original person's darkness in their own hearts such as the case of Riku and Scar. While Zexion's demonstration was a mere illusion, it'd be hard to argue that in the case that Riku DID turn into a Heartless, he would have been a Darkside. It does matter of the amount of info we have and most of the time, baseless theories seem to be spawning out of nowhere. We do not know what exactly are Unbirths and if they could take on human forms, we wouldn't even know what's needed to do so, what they feed on and whatnot. Kaihedgie 04:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't care!!!!!!!! The point of a theory is to answer questions. And you never know. I could be right. No way to tell for now. Besides, what's your theory? What do you think is going to happen in Birth by Sleep? Xenahort's heartless is different from other heartless. It's the exception to the rule. So, my theory could still be right. A heartless can change and does change when it consumes hearts. Look at Xenahort before he possessed Riku and then after he possessed Riku. He changed his form even though he didn't consume hearts. Although, he probably changed forms because he took Riku's body and changed it to look like his old body. Riku didn't have a heartless. Who knows that Riku would turn into if he became a heartless? I know the information matters. But new information won't be coming for a while. If Heartless can take human forms and Nobodies can take human forms, Unbirths can definitely take human forms. What the Unbirth feed on and stuff like that, I don't know. But I can come up with a new theory to answer that question. Augment96 04:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Question is: How do YOU know if Unbirths can take on human form? Bein' the opposite of life, they probably can't do so. A Nobody is pretty much a person lacking a heart and their strength is determined by the original person's willpower. A Heartless however, their form is determined by the darkness in their hearts. Stronger the darkness, the more powerful it is. One who fully embraces the darkness has the ability to take on human form similar to how a Nobody's form differs on the strength of the person's will, thus they can take on human form as well. The question is, how can you explain or determine how Unbirths thrive and how would it explain Aqua, whom is the least we even know about in the first place?

How do you know that they can't? If Nobodies can and Heartless can, Unbirths can. As far as I know, there is no reason why Unbirths can't take on human form. Since they're the opposite of life, they shouldn't exist at all. But they do. So, I can assume that an Unbirth can take a human form. I thought that a Nobody's power is determined by the strength of the person's heart, not willpower. So, a Heartless won't change at all or become stronger if it consumes hearts? I don't think so. When Xenahort embraced the darkness, he lost his form but gained a lot of power. Xenahort "became" the darkness. He only got his human form beck by possessing a willing heart (Riku's). I think Xenahort's form was just a illusion, made to look like Xenahort. I do not know how Unbirths survive or what they feed on. Do you? If I want to believe that Aqua is an Unbirth, why can't I? Until the game comes out, you can't say I'm wrong. Augment96 02:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I pretty much have every right to say yer wrong cause ya just might be XD It's definitely no illusion due to the fact that he actually resumes his humanoid form in Chain of Memories after his defeat at the hands of Sora in the first game, so it's no illusion, but a fixed form. Kaihedgie 04:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

But I might be right. There's no way to know for sure until the game comes out. Well, I thought it was an illusion. But it doesn't explain why he looked like a phantom in the beginning of Kingdom Hearts. Augment96 07:02, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

How come he take a slightly humanoid shape? Why didn't he just take his old form in the beginning of the game? Augment96 02:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)