Talk:Marluxia

Flowers
I've heard a lot of debate over whether they're Cherry-Blossom petals or if they're Pink Hawthorn petals. Here are the arguments I've heard:

Cherry-blossoms are a Japanese symbol of death, and Mar's title is the Graceful assassin.

Pink hawthorn, because of the shape of the petals as seen in KH RE: CoM. Furthermore, the Scientific name for the specific plant is Crataegus Lumaria, Lumaria also being the "Reverse-Anangrammed" version of the name "Marluxia"

So, Which is it? Cherry-Blossom or Pink Hawthorn?97.90.18.64 03:06, October 6, 2010 (UTC)Empty-Sentiment

Angel of death?
I'm concerned about calling the angelic Nobody or machine or whatever that Marluxia is combined with for his final battle an "Angel of Death". It seems very romanticized and interpretive. Is this how it's actually officially described and I just haven't seen it?  Scott ch  04:42, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

--The Nobody that Marluxia is riding was called the "Phantom" in an interview I read once, let me go try and dig it up... But it does fit in in both it's appearence and Marluxia's element. I mean, no offense to who wrote it, but it looks nothing like a machine...

-I read an interview as well saying that the Nobody that Marluxia rode was known as Spectre. This could just be a translation error between the Japanese version to the American. Phantom and Spectre mean the same thing.

Element
While some people say his element is death, others says its flowers. Isn't there a definite answer in the Proof of existense though? can someone check cause I can't.XienZo 00:42, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Here you go. 花 = hana = Flower. --Hecko X 20:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

-Marluxia's element is a very debatable topic. His tile in the Proof of Existence features his trademark pink scythe "Full Bloom" and the words Graceful Assassin. The title Graceful Assassin could mean two elements. "Graceful" infers to Flowers, while "Assassin" infers to death. This is made even more apparent with Marluxia's scythe. Obviously a scythe usually signifies death because of its relation to the Grim Reaper. However the scythe is colored pink and green like a flower's blossom and stem. These factors could all mean that Marluxia has almost a dual element-Flower and DeathFinal 13

I think his element is most Death. Even if he uses blossoms, it can represent the fact of flowers being short-lived.--Unbirth 23:00, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That's the symbolism, yes, but it's outright identified as "flower" and that's what we're going to use.—Urutapu 00:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Flowers are used as death symbols (in Japan, if nowhere else).—Urutapu 05:31, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I also agree with using nature as his element. After all, flowers signify life, and his scythe signifies death, and nature is life and death. 68.97.215.229 23:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)Morghman
 * Er, we're not going to change it...Ultimania says "flower," outright. There's no way to debate that. It's not like the Japanese word has any other meaning.—Urutapu 04:32, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You might want to provide the Ultimania screenshot on his element.  BLUER   一番   04:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I think that is element should be called plants or greenery because it just seems odd to call his element flowers.

We don't debate this. His element is referred to in all official media, such as the Journal entries, as "Flower". We don't pick a new name just because we think it'll sound better; this is a fact-based wiki. Also, sign your comments on talk pages with 4 tildes like this: ~ -- Lapis of the Night  20:12, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation
How exactly do you pronounce Marluxia's name? I always thought it was "Mar-luk-sia" but I've heard it pronounced "Mar-lu-sha" by someone and that confuses me. Olette Kitty 19:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * "Mar-lu-sha" is how it's properly pronounced in Japanese. "X" isn't part of the Japanese language, and so "s" sounds are often used in its place. My last name, for example, has an "x" in it, but I use "su" when writing it in katakana. There is no official English pronounciation that I know of, so we may yet be calling him something more akin to what you have if one makes its way over here. BebopKate 20:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, hopefully when Re:Com makes it to the US on december 2, we'll find out how his name is really pronounced. Olette Kitty 20:16, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yip in the Re:Com (American Version atleast) Heis refered to as Mar-Lu-Sha, i had always said Mar-Lux-Ia, but BebopKate is right about "X" in the Japanese Language.


 * I always thought Mar-luk-sia sounded better than Mar-lu-sha but if that is the way you pronounce it then that is fine with me.Pizzahut101 00:40, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

It should be added in the article. You hear Axel pronounce it many times in Re: Chain of Memories. (Bananaphone1996 03:20, April 14, 2010 (UTC))

We know how it's pronounced, but I'm against putting a pronunciation in the actual article. It just seems unprofessional. There's also the fact that the Romaji is basically a pronunciation key already. That's how I figured out how his name (and Xion's for that matter) was pronounced. Plus, anyone who's curious could just look on this page and see that "So it IS Mar-lu-sha" section below.-- Lapis of the Night  03:25, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Unlock puewease?
I really don't know what's up, but it might be nice to unlock this page so I can make a few worthwhile edits, yah? If you really need to know, it's editing out some unnecessary stuff (reference to Grim Reaper....), battle quotes, VA, stuff like that. Yeah? OG-Loc 06:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Change in sex
Was a specific reason given for the change in Marluxia's sex? 71.99.96.174 19:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't think so. Nomura probably just decided that Marluxia would be better as a male. LapisScarab 02:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

-It is stated in the trivia section of Marluxia's page in KHwiki that Nomura didn't like the idea of having the lone female members (this is considering the fact that Marluxia would be female)as the rebels in Chain of Memories. It was easier to change her into a man, however the name Marluxia stuck.Final 13

Mar-lu-sha!? They were right!
There is a girl in my high school who keeps insisting that Marluxia is pronounced Marlusha, and I just wanted to know if it was true...and it is. The japanese prononce the 's' instead of the 'x' thats completely understandable. But I don't care, it will always be 'Mar-lux-ia' to me! Thanks.

Should have been a girl...
After the revelation that Marluxia IS pronounced Marlusha, me and a friend of mine have decided Nomura-sama should have kept Marluxia a girl character. I mean, the combination of the flowers, the pink, and now the name just SCREAMS girl, don't you think? I might have had more respect for him as a boss and enemy character if he had been female. Now I can't even say his NAME without giggling. Sweet Nightmare 09:47, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I dissagree. I see no reason he couldn't be a guy. The Dark Fiddler 14:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * He WAS supposed to be a girl. However, Nomura realized that it would mean that the traitors to the Organization would both be the only female members, which would have bad implications. XienZo 18:28, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I Agree with you there, Teh Organisation (While i love all memebers) Really Needed more Female ones, and it sounds like a good team to me, Marluxia the Graceful Assasain & Larxene The Savage Nymph. I Agreed also with the change so the only two females being traitors, that wouldnt look good

I guess it does sound sexist that the females of the Organization were the ones that rebelled. It's like, "I'm sick of all this testosterone!" But I think that Marluxia would be much better as a girl since it means that the females are individuals and could take care of themselves (if it wasn't for Sora, but then they're all gone anyway). I wonder if they could retcon Marluxia? Like he had Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (like Sadako Yamamura of "Ring" fame) or his other lived as a girl (like Nuriko from Fushigi Yugi/Curious Play). Far-fetched, but I could dream, right? HealerSpirit 07:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

If they only reason he was changed to a male is because they didn't want a female as the main traitor, then why not just make Axel or Vexen the main villian? (Bananaphone1996 04:44, April 22, 2010 (UTC))

my friend thought that axel,vexen,demyx,zexion,marluxia and roxas were girls -13sonicstar-

Actually, Marluxia of all of them shows the greatest indication of being straight - especially when you take into consideration Axel's comments about him in the manga, after Larxene dies: ("What are you going to do with all your time, now that Larxene is gone?"), not to mention his general attitude towards her. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they're an item, and I wouldn't put it past Squeenix and Nomura to make the most "obviously" gay character straight. 66.162.164.34 21:38, June 10, 2010 (UTC)butterflyeffext

I disagree I respect any guy that has pink hair and can still kick ass. He takes 'tough guys wear pink' to a whole new level.--To lose and claim anew or claim anew only to lose 06:46, January 10, 2011 (UTC) theGracefulAssassin

Either way, you guys should be careful, you could offend gay people on this wiki. Surely there's a gay person on this wiki somewhere [edit]AlVan 13:04, 24 March 2011 (EDT)AlVan

Hair..

 * Sounds fair, itll probally be taken down later by someone who disagrees. To me they really do show that, Xaldins dreadlocks to me always showed his Lances but no one else really seems to share this trend

Somebody Name
Just something I noticed, there is a type of plant called Lumaria, a plants website saying it's a kind of hawthorn. Add the 'X', jumble up the letters, and that spells Marluxia for you, not to mention Marluxia's element is flowers/nature.

That wouldn't be totally insane if his somebody was a girl, the only Nobodies we've seen with somebodies are the six apprentices and Sora, the remaining members are a peculiar mystery...

When it comes to name theories, somones gotta be right.  Myself 123  22:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Ita IMPOSSIBLE for his somebod to be girl because hes a BOY!He has his originals persons body and Soul.Meaning he was orginally a girl he BE A GIRL.Because he would have a girl body duh.But obviously his body is a boys meaning he was a boy.Thats compltely stupid to say he couldve been a girl. 15:46, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

something weird
Um, mind running that by me again? it seems all your thoughts are running into one another there.;)Brago-77 18:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think he's saying he just figured out that the COM's Enigmatic Man is Marluxia. ...which was always obvious.—Urutapu 20:28, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't his name Lumaria? I got it off YouTube

Sub-headings?
Does anyone think that they are unnecessary? I mean: "Rebellion against the Organization", "Into Oblivion", does anyone think that they should be removed? --The Yoshiman 97 01:06, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Fourth wall
I think it was talking about his plan to take over the Organization.-- 04:12, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia
In Marluxia's trivia it says he, Xemnas and Roxas were in cg, but I don't remember ever seeing Xemnas in cg, so when was that?
 * Deep Dive. Glorious  CHAOS!  17:09, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Voice Actor
I have lots of infomation with many serieses, and did you know that Marluxia's English voice actor (for Re:COM and Days) also voiced Basch in Final Fantasy XII? (It looks like the Roselia-like fem-boy's voice actor also voiced a Lucario-like power-man!) It's very weard in many, many different ways, y'know! (Also, another conection with voice acting is that both the English and Japanese voice actors of Captain Jack Sparrow have voiced Final Fantasy characters; The English one voiced Tidus (in Final Fantasy X), while the Japanese one voiced Balthier (in Final Fantasy XII). Also, Vivi's Japanese voice actress voiced Satoshi's Pikachu in the Pokémon series)! Uxie  Lover  1994 03:31, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

What freaks me out most is that Marluxia's voice actor also voiced Bloo in the cartoon network series "Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends" ~Xena

Going back to Pokémon... OMG RLY??? NO WAY!!!! Pikachu and Vivi? Sounds like Vivi is a Japanese Pokémon trainer. LOL LOL LOL AxelsWifeVIII leiks Axekipz! (Axel and Mudkipz) 14:27, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

Pronunciation
I think at least in instances like this where the romanji doesn't reflect the proper english pronuciation (marusha excludes the l sound) we should put it somewhere. --Evnyofdeath 18:17, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Personally I think a pronunciation should follow the Romanji in the character info and/or in the first paragraph along with the romanji. 18:21, October 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Maa-ruu-shaa equates to Mar-loo-sha. maggosh 18:49, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

I know, but I was wanting some English pronunciations for new-comers. But, if it's unnecessary then never mind. 18:52, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Cherry Blossoms?
The petals are RED, he's even seen holding a rose in the official manga! Yes the explanation for the Sakura are logical, but think about it, when everyone's all elegant and crap in anime and most japanese things or anything else for that matter, there's roses. Look fangirls, I know you want to Japanify the living hell out of this English wiki, but they're rose petals.-.-
 * ...they are VERY pink. 23:54, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

They are severely pink. And don't you "fangirl" us, anon. We don't shit around with this stuff. If you want there to be a change, give us a source. One other than "He's holding a rose in the manga." -- 00:14, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Lord of the Castle?
This might be unnecesary, but I found it worth asking for it. The trivia says that all of his battle themes are named after the whole concept of Marluxia, including "Lord of the Castle" as his posicion in Castle Oblivion. I disagree with the statement, as, now when know the origins of the Castle, that would make Aqua, or Eraqus "lords" of the Castle. So, I propose to change it to somenthing around the lines of "Finally, "Lord of The Castle" refers to the title Xemnas gave him inside Castle Oblivion" Any objections?--''' Dark-En   igmaXIII   00:57, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not really a title; it's more of just a role that he fills while they're stationed there. -- 03:07, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Bug Thingy
Y'all seeing this? I made my browser wider but it still didnt change the problem. 22:11, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

What is that? It look like you're trying to put in on a phone. 22:20, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Lauriam
His real name has been revealed in UX.--68.110.185.16 23:40, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * While it is very likely, it hasn't been officially confirmed it is Marluxia's original self. 09:02, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * To clarify: we've had Nomura fuck us on this kind of thing before, so for the moment we are being cautious until he spells it out in black and white. 17:09, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * You know, I keep wondering why they won't admit Lucy (My nickname for Marluxia) here used to be Lauriam. CleffaGirl173 (talk) 14:39, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Marluxia planned as female
It seems to be common knowledge that Marluxia was originally planned to be female, as stated on the page, but does anyone have a source for this? I've been looking through interviews on KHInsider and KH13, but I can't find anything about it. 19:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * That trivia existed even before I came on as an editor back when the KHWiki was still with FANDOM, so I don't who originally added it. If there's no source, it should be removed.-- 00:58, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * source: . That is if it's considered reliable. - JTD95 (talk) 12:06, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * That's it! Great job finding that. 12:15, 1 April 2020 (UTC)