Talk:Zack

Well damn
First FF cameo we had in years.. This was quite an eye-opener for me, literally. Kaihedgie 14:14, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it's about time we had more FF cameos:D.--Masgrande 15:12, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Zack is awesome!FaythOfFenrir 15:20, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Now give us more FFVI and an FFIV character and I'll be happy Kaihedgie 17:02, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Zack is the best FF character. He better not be in this game JUST to replace Cloud. BTW he's is the best. No 3 Xaldin 21:34, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Not the best, just decent Kaihedgie 21:33, December 7, 2009 (UTC)


 * Dude wtf is with his waist—Urutapu 19:38, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Is it just me who realize that Olympus Coliseum shows badass ff characters? First Cloud, then Auron, now Zack??? What's next? Balthier? Balthier....or Basch and Gabranth. :D

@Kaihedge-Yep put some ff characters from those games or rinoa and bartz and square will have my gratidute(cuz rinoa and bartz are my favorite ff characters) Firaga44 23:05, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Expect
72.184.129.252 23:18, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Seiyuu: Kenichi Suzumura
 * VA: Rick Gomez
 * Role: Wants to be a hero.
 * World Storyline: Similar to Crisis Core (With Sephiroth, Cloud, & Tifa).

I think so, too.-- 23:19, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Other Details
Zack's Sword and stomach guard are still branded with the Shinra Logo. When Zack is Summoned via D-Link, he uses Materia-based attacks.

You confused Shinra with SOLDIER Kaihedgie 07:24, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

SOLDIER is a part of Shinra, you know HarpieSiren 08:06, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

They have separate logos though. Tryin' to be specific here. Shinra isn't mentioned in KH anyway Kaihedgie 08:09, December 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * SOLDIER - http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:SOLDIER_Logo.jpg
 * Shinra - http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:Shin-ra_logo.jpg

Need I say more? Kaihedgie 08:14, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

SOLDIER has been mentioned in Cloud's entries in Jiminy's Journal, before. Which doesn't really make all that much sense. Considering that A: Cloud wasn't in SOLDIER and B: It's an alternate universe so the stuff that happened in FFVII didn't happen in KH. HarpieSiren 08:19, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe they'll be trying to figure out why Jiminy has the word "SOLDIER" in his journal for cloud. Wouldn't be surprised if that showed up in whatever that game is they're making for the cell phone. Which, honestly, I won't get.--Pkthis 23:33, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

And now for a lame pun
Zack is the seventh FFVII character to make an appearance in the KH series Kaihedgie 01:25, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Body Praportions
"is it me or dose he seem to be WAY thinner than normal?

in the sceen with him and Terra, his waste is like a womans.

my Theory is that Zacks design is to make it look like hes origonaly from the same world as Hrec.

you know, make it so in KH Hercs home world could be Zacks home world, his outfit is also an indication to make me think so, maybe hes a student under Phil.

its posssable that Zack and Phil may have the same friendship and conections as Zack and angeal had in FF7:Crisis Core.

but again its all just a theory of mine

~Ixbran"

I think so, too, about Zack and Phil's relationship. I'm hoping that Phil will call him "Zack the Puppy". Zero attention span, and reckless as a puppy. Tee hee hee!-- 02:56, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, making him look Hercules-esque is obviously the intent. Just look at his legs. The problem is his head is still Finally Fantastic and looks out of place as hell.—Urutapu 03:55, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

It's not that bad.-- 04:03, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Why is zack classified under the "Characters from an unknown world" Catigory?
i think its pretty obvious that Olympus Collosieum is Zacks home world in KH:BbS.


 * his body praportions are on par with the characters from that world, his ears even have that swirl design in them like young Herc in BbS


 * hes dressed the same as the other characters from that world.


 * also take into account that even though they are from other games, Aerith, Yuffie and Cid, from FF7, share the same Home world with Squall, from FF8. whare as Cloud, Tifa and Sephiroth are from a compleatly difrent world all together.

I personaly dont see anything wrong with a FF character whos home world in KH is a disney World, i mean KH is suposed to be about fusing Disney and FF into one. So the very idea of a FF character whos home world is a disney world shouldent be all that hard to accept

Or are there some people who just hate the very idea of it, and are in denial about Zacks home world being Olympus Collosieum?

im not trying to start a fight or anything, but i just wanted to know why Zack is under the "Characters from an unknown world" Catigory, when its obvious, to me, hes origonaly from Olympus Collosieum, or am i missing something?

~ Ixbran

Or ban you. Don't forget that.--71.116.53.127 20:28, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

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i think its 100% safe to say that Olympus Coliseum is his home world. I mean the Events of BbS take place before Xehanort was an apprentice of Ansem. and it was Xehanort who destroyed the barriers around the worlds that kept them separated. during BbS the only way to travel to different worlds is by those portals of light, which can only be accessed by Keyblade wielders. and its obvious Zack dose not have a keyblade, combined with the fact that Zacks design mimics that of those who are native to Olympus Coliseum. Ixbran 23:00, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Only FF character?
Were did you get that information. (And what about Moogles?) FaythOfFenrir 17:44, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Check www.kh13.com and read the Nomura interview, moogles and Zack are the only FF part in the game. Squall and Cloud were supposed to have a backstory in the game, but there was already too much story involved, so they dropped the idea.--Ataradesu 18:34, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

New trivia piece
Someone needs to add in Zack bein' the second FF character to appear in the series with his own theme Kaihedgie 03:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I need help
Hey darkstar16 here I tryed puting a video in zack's page but a part of the page is gone can you help me thinks

Fate

 * Well, we don't know. That's the last thing we see of him.—Urutapu 16:08, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Zack doesn't own the Buster Sword in KH, so it's fine. The Buster Sword is probably just cool in this continuity and not a "warrior's legacy" type thing like it is in Compilation of FFVII.—Urutapu 20:28, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I just want to say that I have no problem with Kingdom Hearts messing with the stories of Final Fantasy stories because Kingdom Hearts is an originaly series, not a spinoff of Final Fantasy. The same goes for Disney. So I think we just should be happy that we have someone as cool as Zack, and I'm pretty sure they won't do much to elaborate on the plot of Zack in the same way they haven't elaborated on the plot of Cloud. 69.178.248.181 01:37, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

That and they aready have their own games, so we shouldn't rely on Kingdom Hearts to base a huge plotline around minor characters that already have their own backgrounds.69.178.248.181 01:38, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

The Black Feather, Sephiroth or Sephirnot?
Alright. Now why does everyone have to think that the black feather isn't Sephiroth's? Werehog 2:55 PM 2/14/2010 (UTC)


 * @Kingdom zachdawg, Not done, and not done by a long shot! What makes you think it belongs to Genesis? He isn't even in the game. Werehog 3:05 PM 2/14/2010 (UTC)

I too also believe it could be Sephiroth, but until it is confirmed we cannot add that to the article. This wiki has a no speculation policy. Also, proof is indeed needed to back up such an acqusation.-- Xion 4  ever  23:03, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * @Xion4ever, You don't need confirmation about a piece of wing that came from only one character, and one character only. Werehog 3:08 PM 2/14/2010 (UTC)


 * It doesn't matter. If it isn't confirmed that the feather is from Sephiroth, then no matter how likely it may be it cannot be in the article. It is not confirmed that the feather is his. Everything needs to be confirmed, Werehog. By the way someone erased this comment earlier.-- Lapis of the Night  23:12, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Who knows...Maybe one day he will.-- 23:08, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * @NinjaSheik, But Zach is an original. Genesis is not. Sephiroth is all the proof you need to know who's feather that currently is. Werehog 3:13 PM 2/14/2010 (UTC)


 * @Kingdom zachdawg, I don't second that. You don't need confirmation for Sephiroth's wing! Werehog 3:17 PM 2/14/2010 (UTC)

Wait a minute! We don't even know if Zack's dead in KH.-- 23:15, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

The why is Cloud chasing Sephiroth? Werehog 3:18 PM 2/14/2010 (UTC)

Enough of this. This is getting dangerously close to edit warring. If that happens, warnings and such could/would be handed out; we don't want or need that. Also, I too believe it is Sephiroth, but until we have actual, confirmed proof we cannot add it into the article. Sorry, but this wiki has a no speculation rule; even if we're sure its Sephiroth, we cannot add it into the article until it is confirmed.-- Xion 4  ever  23:18, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Tetsuya Nomura confirmed that the black feather indicates the presance of Sephiroth.--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 02:04, July 28, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman

1) This discussion is several months old. 2) We know that, look in the article.07:34, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Old or not, I looked through the article, & I don't see where it says anything like that.Neo Bahamut 02:19, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Theme
In the trivia section, who was the other FF character to have a theme? I'm thinking Squall, but I'm not sure. The Yoshiman 97 03:44, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sephiroth is probably being referred to.—Urutapu 05:12, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Odd question
How does he get his hair in that helmet? 66.215.21.80 23:09, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably with great difficulty YamiNoBahamut 17:45, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Keep in mind that this is the same universe where the legendary weapon is a giant key, and where humans and anthropomorphized animals can glide with little difficulty. How Zack can fit his hair in that helmet is the least confusing aspect of these games. Tamroc7 02:16, July 28, 2010 (UTC) Maybe it's like how Axel gets his hair in the hood. Maybe.

Alright, This Is Starting to Piss Me Off
Someone put that Zack is the first FF character whose home world is a Disney World & it was deleted. I tried putting it back & I tried changing the home world back to "unknown." Both edits were reverted. It can't be speculation in one section of the article & legitimate information in another!Neo Bahamut 19:06, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

The home world is still stated as Unknown I putted OC as other residences--Xabryn 19:21, September 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Whoa, dude, calm the hell down. maggosh 19:28, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am calm. Also, my bad for not noticing the separate categories.Neo Bahamut 20:04, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

We don't know for sure that this IS his home. His designs are similar the rest of the OC residants, but with pretty much everyone else fom FF7 being from Radiant Garden, it's equally as valid that he'd come from there. Hyperwre_2.0 22:31, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Trinity Report/Journal Entry Discrepancy
I've noticed that on the Opening Copyright/Trademarks Screen, that the years in the Square Enix Section are (Not in this exact order) 1990, Presumably for FFIII because of the moogles, 2010, I think as a general trademark of the series as a whole and 1997, For Final Fantasy VII.

Now at first I assumed that it was for using Zach but upon inspecting his journal entry, it lists Crisis Core as his debut game, not that mildly pissed me off cause Zach's appearance albeit as a minor character was still existent in VII, and it doesn't list 2007 for that matter. Then I assumed that they were referring to Zach Fair as a whole, like that was the game that showed his personality and the SOLDIER logo on his SOLDIER issued sword but again I digress. I then thought that it was referring Sephiroth because of all that indigo/black feather stuff but I don't wanna go there cause we don't really know and la, la, la whatever. So why...*Sighs* Whatever, I just thought that was in interesting thing I noticed and wanted to share with you all. Under The Heavens 15:28, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Zack Fair they are using is based off of Crisis Core, but the character is copyrighted to 1997. That's all. Glorious  CHAOS!  15:40, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Zack/Ventus
"*Ventus and Zack's character arcs share many parallels. Just as Cloud becomes Zack's successor, incorporating his past with that of Zack's to form his delusion of being a former Soldier First Class in Final Fantasy VII, and taking Zack's Buster Sword as his own, Sora similarly assimilates Ventus, using his power in the form of the Kingdom Key. Both are prequel characters, and both character designs contain stylistic references to their "main game" counterparts. This is most likely the reason for his inclusion in Birth by Sleep"

Do we find the claimed similarities notable enough to mention? Furthermore, is there not any word from Nomura on why he included Zack? 03:41, 19 February 2015 (UTC)