Talk:Realm of Nothingness

So I decided to edit this page (it was before I created my account, so I'm not listed as the contributor, but whatever). The reason I decided to edit it is because it made no sense based on the information in the games. This is what I have concluded from playing the games:

(Spoiler Warning!!!)

I've been all over the net about Kingdom Hearts and Keyblades and everyone seems totally lost and confused about this subject--but I don't see why. As of KH II there are 4--FOUR known wielders:

Sora, Riku, Kairi and Mickey (Roxas DOESN'T COUNT, he can only wield because he is Sora's Nobody--period. His Keyblades are merely shadows/memories of the real one Sora wields, which is why they retain the same forms).

There are four known realms: Light, Darkness, Twilight and Nothingness (which has yet to appear in-game).

Sora = Light (Kingdom Key) Mickey = Darkness (Darkside) Riku = Twilight (Way to Dawn) Kairi = Nothingness (unknown name)

"Why does Kairi wield the Keyblade of Nothingness?" you may ask... Well, consider what we know about the Realm of Nothingness. DiZ spent time there and spoke about it. What did it take to survive there? He had to "remember his past". When does Kairi receive her Keyblade from Riku? Shortly after she "remembers her past". Why is everyone so confused about this?

Before people start asking goofy questions, let me answer a few up front:

1) The "keyblade" Riku used in KH I was not a real keyblade (the red and black Oblivion blade). It had no keychain. Riku did not recieve his true Keyblade until some time during KH II (the first battle with him in The Land of Dragons, he still had his Soul Eater sword). Riku and Sora battled for control of the Kingdom Key during KH I, but Riku lost since Sora's heart was "stronger" (i.e., more Light oriented).

2) Roxas wields Kingdom Key, Oathkeeper and Oblivion because of the symbolism. Kingdom Key represents the memory of his true self (Sora), Oathkeeper represents the memory of Kairi, and Oblivion represents the memory of Riku. They are Sora's closest friends, and therefore, his strongest memories.

3) Mickey wield's Darkside because he has a strong heart that remains uncorrupted, even in Darkness.

As for why Riku had Kairi's Keyblade in the first place? I can only speculate. Perhaps that Keyblade belonged to DiZ, and he gave it to Riku to pass on to Kairi. I don't know. It's the only question about this particular subject, so far as I can tell, that is still unanswered at this point. Anyway, if that doesn't mostly clear it up for you, then I don't know what to tell you. Pay more attention to the games, I guess. I know they are kind of confusing at times, but they provide all the necessary information to piece it together if you actually pay attention.

Nethrelm 11:31, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually the Dark Keyblade, the one created by the hearts of six of the princesses of heart, is an unfinished keyblade. Itlacked Kairi's heart therefore laked a keychain

Roxas-rules 12:21 am November 18

Nomura has said in the Director's Report that Kairi and Riku's Keyblades are the same nature (Light realm) as Sora's. So, this whole thing doesn't work. He goes on to explain that there's only two types of realm for the keyblade - light and darkness, for the two sides of a door. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon  survived intact.  10:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Realm of In-Between = Realm of Nothingness
Wouldn't the "realm of the present" that was mentioned in the final mix report be the realm of darkness?Since that's where Xeanort ended up after becoming a heartless.--74.210.24.180 04:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Because he goes on to list it, I would suggest not. I'd like to get a crack at the original Japanese to get a literal translation, though. Glorious  CHAOS!  16:22, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Moved from Twilight
Twilight represents the realm in between Light and Darkness. It borrows powers from both forces, using both elements in ways that would not be the norm. It is relatively unknown as even King Mickey was not aware of it until realizing the path Riku took. But nonetheless, the existence of this element allows many that were normally against the darkness to accept it as something that can be used for good.

DiZ refers to this path as "the twilight road to nightfall" but Riku calls it "the road to Dawn". Since the nobodies, who are said to be twilight beings, possess neither light nor darkness it can be assumed that there are two different interpretations of the term twilight: the first being Riku's twilight which indicates a fusion of light and dark, and the second being a broader definition encompassing all that does not fall under light or dark. Worlds that are tied to both Realm of Light and the Realm of Darkness are known as twilight worlds (Twilight Town and Traverse Town are notable examples).