Talk:Maleficent's goons

Are these listed strictly as the title implies, or should we change it to the Disney Title, "Maleficent's Goons"? - EternalNothingnessXIII 00:23, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

FRIKKIN ENEMIES
So why the frakk do these guys still not have enemy infoboxes or, (because apparently we need them,) separate enemy pages?

Same with the Undead Pirates. And the only reason why the Card Soldiers have a place for their infoboxes is because we grouped them together onto the Queen of Hearts boss article, which may or may not be appropriate.

It can't be because no one's got the stats, but why do we even need a separate page? -- 05:32, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Pro'ly 'cause they aren't mentioned in the Bradygames guide, meaning someone with access to the Ultimania scans has to do it. 14:32, December 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, I can accept that, but what about the pirates? -- 16:34, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Those should be given pages, or merged, yeah.
 * Hmm, we should go through and figure out all the non-monster enemies or things with HP there are. Off the top of my head:


 * BbS:
 * Blasters
 * Orbs of Light
 * Trees
 * Dwarves
 * Inanimate objects? (do those rock walls in Neverland have HP?)
 * KH2
 * Rock walls
 * Dead souls

etc.


 * I feel like the rocks in BBS didn't have HP, but I'll check.
 * Also, do you know what the deal is with Mimic Master's copies? -- 18:41, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh god. Yeah, they have separate stats in page and replica form. Arg. I think the Ultimania lists the stats. 21:32, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

To be referenced... somewhere
Like the Undead Pirates, these guys uniquely react to Fire, Thunder, and (I assume) Blizzard magic. As far as I've seen, Fire and Thunder make them run around wildly with flames and static bolts, respectively. -- 22:28, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I can back up this claim, but I haven't tried Blizzard. Should we mention it in the strategy section? 14:35, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Unless it's strategically important (disrupts/prevents attacks), it's nothing more than an aesthetic gag and is unimportant to gameplay. - 23:46, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Story section
I can't remember if the goons appear in any cutscenes or not, can anyone check? If they do appear, they should get a story section. Whether they're actually important to the events that take place isn't really a factor here. 14:34, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I think they do appear, though I'm not sure whether "When __________ happens, the goons ________" would suffice here. The idea of a story section is to list important plot points in which a subject is involved, rather than make note of its every single appearance. - 20:06, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I disagree. I think the story section should note when characters appear, like Honey Bee for example. 20:17, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Normally, I'd agree as well. But see Kryten's comments on Foreteller, particularly in the edit history. - 23:34, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Those comments are more pointed to the KHX synopses, which were using several paragraphs to describe short, half-minute scenes. That's over the top. However, every character should have a plot section -- that's what makes them a character. If there's not much to say, that's fine, but the point is more to make sure we're not going overboard, and turning every page into a novel. It could very well be that the entire plot section for the goons would be "Ventus and Aqua encounter them as they explore." -- that would be proportionate and reasonable. 03:40, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Axe vs. Spear
As you can read above, the translations of the goon with the axe or halberd is "Spear" in the BBS Ultimania. In KHUX though the power-type enemy is actually called "Axe", "マレフィセントの手下(斧)" while the speed-type is called "Spear", "マレフィセントの手下(槍)", which I named "Shield" to avoid confusion.

Still, the game is more canon than the Ultimania, isn't it, so we should rename the enemies according to KHUX, right? Also, there is another goon boss with Malificent's raven which is magic-type that is called "マレフィセントの手下たち". I don't know how to translate that. -- 09:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think we should use the names from KHUX, since it's more recent. We could wait for the English localization, but that'll take a couple of months. Maybe that name could be translated as "Maleficent's goons", like Darkling and Darklings or Fluttering and Flutterings. 09:36, 13 May 2018 (UTC)