Talk:Heart

Is it really correct to assume that heart is connected with memories? Roxas is considered unique among Nobodies in that he doesn't remember his previous life, so we can say that most Nobodies do remember when they had a heart. Thus, memories seem to be stored within the soul. If I remember correctly, there has been a mention of people remembered within the heart. Maybe memories of events are stored within the soul, while people known and feelings go to the heart? - EclipseDragon 16:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe back-up memories are stored in the soul, which is why Nobodies remember things, like emotions, but the Heart is the main source for memories, emotions and people. Adam148 17:15, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

This could make sense. Like, souls would have memories as we have them in real world, just as reminiscences of the past, and hearts would contain "live" memories, which would both serve as the reminiscences and do all these crazy things like resonating and linking one person to another. Correct me if I missed anything canon in my theories, it's been a while since I last played any kind of Kingdom Hearts. EclipseDragon 19:02, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

yeah but then your saying that nobodies have no memory but the past but thats not true because they do have memory i'm not sure exactly at what you mean by "live" memory, live memory could be anything, are you talking about like short term memory, memory of the moment because if you are then your saying that nobodies don't have this which isnt true, they wouldnt be able to take in any new information which they do, they conduct experientments and they know what they are which wouldn't be achieved without a live or short term memory, they wouldnt be able to store new informationPhade Paradox 21:06, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

No, no, that's not at all what I meant. I suppose I didn't make myself specific enough. I theorized that the Nobodies may have normal memories of events that had happened, but without a heart, these memories wouldn't be able to do all the fancy things hearts do with them, like linking people together (For instance, when in KHII the real Twilight Town's gang seemed to remember Roxas/Sora, or when at the very beginning of CoM Sora's memories made his friends from Traverse Town remember his name without even knowing it, and it's said in the Reports that there are ways in which heart works that haven't been fully understood). In other words, Nobodies' memory only serves as memory for their personal use, while a normal person with a heart would also be linked through his or her memories to others. That would certainly fit into all the talk about hearts blending together, etc. And memories that can link a person to other people are what I called "live". So, in essence, souls and hearts remember in just the same way, but hearts also do metaphysical things souls alone are unable to do. Of course, it's also possible that I'm thinking about it way too much;P. Hope I at least made my point clearer than last time. - EclipseDragon 21:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

yeah that makes more sense - Phade Paradox 22:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm... Well with the argument about memories... The argument "Why do Nobodies have memories if memories are kept in the heart?" reminds me of "Why can Roxas wield the Keyblade without have a heart?". I suppose memories are connected with more than just the heart in this context. The benefits and "linkage" of memories might be within the heart, but the physical, neurological synapses are within the soul. I dont think heartless are corrupted hearts.I mean they´re called Heartless so they cant have a heart. Summon:WALL•E 05:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, actually it isn't that heartless have no hearts, it's that the heartless is a heart in which the essence of darkness within the heart has overpowered the light and taken over control. In essence, a heartless is a heart in which the balance of light and dark has shifted in favour of the darkness and the light loses its control. That is why when a heartless is killed by a keyblade, the darkness releases its grip and the heart is then freed and returns to Kingdom Hearts as seen in KHII.

Hey, do you think we should add something about the art of heart release? I find it to be mildly confusing while some find it completely confusing. From what I know, hearts are only released by the keyblade. The thing is, I saw some cutscene clips that involved Cloud and Sephiroth "killing" heartless, and hearts came out. Would that mean that the hearts are released? Or would they become heartless again, like Marluxia said in 358/2 days? Or is it possible that only Nobodies cannot release hearts with their weapons? Maybe anybody with a heart and a weapon (w/ a weapon, because when the Beast killed the neoshadows in 358/2, they didnt have a heart appear) can release them?--RyuuseiSoul 23:28, October 31, 2009 (UTC)