Talk:Oathkeeper & Oblivion

Quote from magazines before KHII came out, important for this page
Secrets of the Keyblades; Nomura: "The Keyblades the boy who knows Sora is holding are the Oathkeeper and Oblivion from the first game. The precious "Oathkeeper", which Sora received from Kairi. The jet-black Keyblade, symbolic of Riku. / The Oblivion, at first, was called Riku's Keyblade. The boy who has the Keyblades from Riku (darkness) and Kairi (light)...... Who is he!?"

you'd think it be roxas but it can't be roxas didn't get oathkeeper and oblivion then so it can't be roxas Firaga44 02:52, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

abilities of Oathkeeper and Oblivion
Maybe we should add the abilities of when Roxas dual-wields in Kingdom Hearts II. Not like the abilities you can equip (like guard and Aerial recovery), but the abilities gained for only that time while he wields them. --Xsonicdragon 22:55, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I suppose so. That does make sense. We still are going to need to add the abilities from 358/2 Days. I think they're defender, crisis half, and Last Reap (also known as once more).

Un-Subpage
Is there any way to make this not a subpage of Oathkeeper, similar to how Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days is not a subpage of Kingdom Hearts 358? -- Door To  Nothing  01:34, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * No. That only works because there is no "Kingdom Hearts 358" article. If there was, the software would automatically create the link at the top of the Days article. Glorious  CHAOS!  04:40, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia claims to have the "breadcrumb" function suppressed on their mainspace (wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages), so we might be able to do that, if we don't want to have the function in any other mainspace article. I don't know how, though. Glorious  CHAOS!  04:41, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, our coding master ILHI is on Wiki-break, so I don't know who else would know. Maybe someone over at the Digimon Wiki you're active on? -- Door To  Nothing Kupo! 03:25, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

That'd be really nice Nitrous X 22:17, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Why don't we just change it to "Oathkeeper and Oblivion"??? --Nitrous X 00:51, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't see how the page is necessary. I understand they technically count as "one" weapon, but the game credits them as two separate Keyblades when Dual-Wielding. I'd nominate this for deletion and simply update the respective Keyblade pages. - EternalNothingnessXIII 00:55, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

I strongly urge for this page to STAY. IT even has it's own image and information. --Nitrous X 01:03, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'm going to fix this whole subpage problem with a name change. I'm glad this article is staying. --Nitrous X 14:46, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * "Oathkeeper/Oblivion" is the weapon set's official name, and there's no actual problem with it being a subpage. It functions exactly the same, it's just that there's an extra link at the top. Considering the nature of the set, that's not actually a problem. Glorious  CHAOS!  15:07, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Not meaning to be rude, but where did you get this official name? Also, it just looks more professional without the extra link at the top. --Nitrous X 20:49, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * The guide. I'm going to try it a different way. Glorious  CHAOS!  05:11, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * How's that? If this doesn't woprk, I'm going to look into disabling the breadcrumb for the main article-space. Glorious  CHAOS!  05:22, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it certainly did the trick, but i'm not sure it looks natural. anyway, it's fine for now, though if you do find a way to disable breadcrumbs, that would probably be preferable. --Neumannz 05:28, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Looks great to me! Thanks, Kryten. --Nitrous X 17:26, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

/ vs \
I'm on it!!!! (Gr8champ 17:13, April 27, 2010 (UTC))

Two Version of the same Weapon
Roxas isn't the only member to use two version of his weapon at the same time, Zexion for example use three Lexicons in the battle against Riku in order to use the Soul Eater, Xemnas shot many versions of his weapon against Sora and Riku on the Final battle but my point is roxas isn't the only one--Xabryn 23:12, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's why it says "different". Glorious  CHAOS!  09:29, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't say multiples of his weapon, it says two different types of his weapon, as in oathkeeper and oblivion, as opposed to three book of retributions or a million interdictions -ShadowsTwilight 17:21, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Xion
"Roxas is not able to use his Synch Blade at first because of Xion's existence" - just wondering A) where that comes from, and B) does that mean that Xion's ability to use the Keyblade is derived from Roxas' Synch Blade? IE, he normally wields two, she drains that ability from him so they each use one? Doreiku Kuroofangu 06:14, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sora has Ventus's heart (and his Keyblade) as well as his own. Roxas inherits this, but when he is replicated, he gives half of that to Xion. Since there are only two Keyblades to share between the two Nobodies, Roxas gets one and Xion gets one. So x ra  ]] 06:16, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is I think an interpretation of what Nomura said about Xion's destruction reawakening the ability in Roxas, and saying that Roxas always had the ability due to Ventus.(ಠ_ೃ)﻿ Bully!  15:01, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Soxra summed up point B well, thanks. Point A I worded poorly - was wondering what the official source for that is. Doreiku Kuroofangu 16:27, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was answering point A.(ಠ_ೃ)﻿ Bully!  17:15, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Where he gets it
Uk I have read before (it may have been from Days game cannot remember) that roxas gets the  synch blade from, Oathkeeper: Roxas' promise to stop Xemnas from Xion  Oblivion: Xion's death

174.111.249.34 03:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC) BTW I am a different anon
 * Nope. Nomura said that he always had it, and that Xion's death just awakened it within him. As for why those specific Keyblades...the only thing I know of is early promotional material for KHII, which called them the Keyblades symbolizing Sora's memories of Kairi and Riku. 06:59, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Double Form
So I was wondering...Sora in Double Form uses both Oathkeeper and Oblivion. Do we mention that on this page or not? Because he uses both simultaneously. Also while on the subject is Sora using Synch blade to do that or no?