User talk:Byzantinefire/Archive 1

FileTalk: Continued
Thought I should finish my thought, but the page was removed just as I was going to publish it. So, I understand, though from where I stand, he has every reason to be mad. Anyways, if you want to help, check the "Welcome" banner on your talk page. It has many wonderful links that can help prevent this kind of thing. 06:56, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Re:Mediawiki Pages
I'm not sure what you mean by MediaWiki Pages. Could you please explain? -KeybladeSpyMaster (talk) 18:16, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Well like the cursor on Disney Wiki is Mickey Mouse's glove i was thinking the cursor here should be a keyblade. Byzantinefire (talk) 18:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I know but its quite a long shot and i can't really do it by myself and i would prefer it if users from KHWiki would come and help edit it to make it less like the originals. Byzantinefire (talk) 22:09, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Huh? What are the editors on the Disney Wiki doing? I hate to use a hostile tone but seriously, that's not fair. You can't expect us to write an article for this wiki...and then rewrite it for the Disney Wiki. Saying that, if some people do want to help the Disney Wiki, they're welcome to, I'm just speaking for myself here. 23:04, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry i asked. Byzantinefire (talk) 23:39, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * No, you can ask for help. I'm just saying that the Disney Wiki (including OTHER editors, not just you) need to pull their weight too. 23:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah but many of them might be too busy editing Frozen related articles. Byzantinefire (talk) 23:50, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Then the least you can do is license your .gifs, which members of our wiki made, like this and many more (although why a Disney Wiki would need an article on Thunder Surge, I'll never understand). Also, you shouldn't attribute our articles to your wiki (so no having our articles as Featured Articles for your wiki) and it would be nice if the template attributing us was at the top of pages, instead of the bottom where no one can see it. EDIT: This has come to my attention. 17:11, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

 * Your Welcome. Byzantinefire (talk) 22:51, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Re:Keyblade
But I suggest you mention KH on your hidden mickey article. 22:23, 9 April 2014 (UTC)


 * This is none of your busyness 15 there are plenty of Disney themed symbols and never tell which belongs on which wiki never say DisneyWiki its Disney Wiki. Byzantinefire (talk) 22:27, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry for butting into the conversation. Not sorry for sharing my opinion, which I still stand by. Character and world symbols take up 0.2% of the game. It's only the Mickey head that's significant.


 * P.S: Inventive sarky-ness with the nowiki tags right there. 22:38, 9 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't need you giving me more stress.Byzantinefire (talk) 22:40, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Affiliation
That's right, you weren't there to discuss the issue. It was concluded at the Roundtable that Erry would discuss with the other staff/admin members about affiliation with the Disney Wiki. I think the purpose/objective was to have an answer by the next Roundtable. 20:25, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh right well i almost forgot about that but it was not mentioned on the previous aftermath Roundtable section so i just wanted to be sure.. Byzantinefire (talk)


 * Yeah, it wasn't, but it was in the transcripts/log 00:06, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Logo Images

 * I got them from KHInsider. Byzantinefire (talk) 04:48, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Images
Hey there. If you really want to help out on the images, we could really use someone to make images transparent. A list of such images can be found over here. The images don't need to be resized-made larger- they need to be transparent. If you can help on that, that would be appreciated. Thanks. 03:41, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Dude, actually check what you're transparenting. Don't just Fuzzy Select + Save. Check the image. 04:50, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I am just checking over what is on the list. Byzantinefire (talk) 04:51, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * He's right, though. Don't just make everything big and transparent. Quality over quantity. As a general rule, I think it should be just in-game elements that should be transparent. But other things, like this, don't need to be. Also, quality trumps size. Three images were reverted yesterday because they were of poorer quality, even if they were bigger. Just be careful. 05:40, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * But those images were on the list and many of the images i uploaded are higher quality than the original. Byzantinefire (talk) 16:24, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Huh, well, the Smile (Art) image isn't on that list, so I'm not on that. However, UnknownChaser was wrong with the other images he reverted. I don't know, I guess those images should be reverted to your uploads. I'll do that myself. 18:40, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well i made a Transparent image of that Smile image but with the Yellow number code and i will be uploading it now. Byzantinefire (talk) 18:47, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hold off on images for the time being. Once Chaser goes through the transparency list on the renovation forum we'll go from there. So, until then, just hold off so we can get this straight. Thanks again for your help. 18:57, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Your Welcome. Byzantinefire (talk) 18:59, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Three things:
 * 1. I think we all appreciate your effort here but uploading these images from KHInsider without giving a source is just rude. Sign spent countless hours rendering all these images and this could easily strain our relationship with this site.
 * 2. As pointed out above some images are intended with a white background, mostly artworks, sketches and images ripe with effects. Pulling off a transparent alternative takes a whole lot of skill, something that you, I and even Sign are not capable of. This requieres a whole new level of wizardry (just check this out).
 * 3. Bigger is not always better, the quality of an image can greatly improve if it's not compressed until there is no tomorrow. The order is mostly like this this: scans < press materials < website materials/rips. Even if the press materials are always around 3000x3000px or even bigger they are in most cases heavily compressed jpgs, meaning a loss of color fidelity and an somewhat blurred image. So even if it that's big it always looks hideous when displayed at 100%. That's not true for all circumstances though, so it has to be decided from a case to case basis if an image should be replaced or not.
 * The other problem with the bigger images you uploaded is that most of the pictures here are displayed at 350x850px max., so when you uploaded the new images with the vast white space around them they look actually smaller now than before. 10:18, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't just say where it is from all the time and frankly i don't like being criticized by anyone we all know where the images are from and at least i contribute these images to 3 wiki's at once you only bother to edit one wiki now. Byzantinefire (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Conduct

 * I'm the one that should be upset here all this talk of quality of quantity i know the difference and you telling me about plagiarism i was replacing these images to make it up to KHWiki and most of you have just been ungrateful i have edited and added image to more wiki's than you in your entire lifetime and you give me is scorn. Byzantinefire (talk) 16:12, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Without turning this into an argument, let me tell you some facts. Everyone has been repeatedly saying "we appreciate your efforts" so I'm not sure why you think we're ungrateful. ShardofTruth was giving you advice on how to make your edits better but you responded negatively, which is the "attitude" I was referring to earlier. 16:25, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh well i was confused well i will just everytime i get an image from KHInsider i will say in the upload comment that i got from said site. Byzantinefire (talk) 16:27, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Resizing Images
Until we get the discussion on the art transparency forum about your image uploads is settled, please hold off on uploading images. If you are indeed doing a poorer quality of image work, be it resizing or transparency, you're just making more work for us over here. So, until Shard or someone else with some higher image knowledge replies, do not upload any more images. This means, no resizing, no transparencies, nothing. Thank you. 19:11, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Rather harsh don't you think. Byzantinefire (talk) 19:20, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Re:IRC
Hey, just got your message. Can you get on right now? 03:13, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Logo
Remember the logo. I finished it. Erry's advice helped a lot.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zdPI_vrN_DI/U7SI0ObO3bI/AAAAAAAAAMY/E5iV39NIWok/s155-no/Kingdom+Hearts+Wiki+Main+Logo.png

What do you think? 23:10, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


 * It looks good but is it the same size as the current one? Byzantinefire (talk) 23:12, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * And it does break a bit from the tradition look maybe wait until the game cover comes out. Byzantinefire (talk) 23:14, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


 * It is the same size as the current one. And yeah, it breaks tradition, so I'm waiting till the game cover art comes out. It was really an experiment to remove the text from the front of the HD 2.5 ReMIX logo to leave the "Kingdom Hearts" part. The images of Sora, Donald, and Goofy will be replaced with the cover art images when we get it. In the mean time, I'll just use this in my personal CSS. 23:17, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Magazine: Mark of Mastery Exam
Hey. The staff and I found the need to clarify the Mark of Mastery Exam requirements in the Journalist Spot. Please feel free to review them. Thanks! 05:06, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * In addition, the Journalist Spot is being hosted at the Keyhole this issue. Please sign-up for assignments for the magazine there. Thanks! 16:41, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Re:Interview
I will be free for an interview to be conducted this coming Saturday. - 02:02, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * At what time on Saturday?Byzantinefire (talk) 03:13, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll pretty much be free all day. - 03:25, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah good. Byzantinefire (talk) 03:29, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm free right now if you wish to conduct the interview. - 16:09, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I am i'm on the social IRC right now? Byzantinefire (talk) 17:17, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll be right there. - 17:18, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

RE:Terminology
Hey, whenever you can, can you tell me what you were trying to tell me about this? Thanks! 00:02, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I was saying that Disney wiki should have the full terminology to the Kingdom Hearts series. Byzantinefire (talk) 04:54, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, sorry I didn't get back sooner, I was out the last two days. Um, yeah, it should probably get more terminology, but I'm not sure if the entire text of the Reports, for example, helps in that quest. 04:42, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I prefer a collection to be complete and not stunted.Byzantinefire (talk) 04:45, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Notice
Just in-case you didn't notice, it's against wiki policy to remove content from discussion pages the way you did. I realize the events/occurrences that led you to do this, but it's still against the rules, and as Xion said, it could/will cost you a warning next time. Again, as always, this is just a wiki run by regular people. You need to keep your emotions in check when editing, because not everyone will agree with you. It comes with the turf. 06:17, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

"Its not that crowded it looks fine and at least i'm not editing as an auto confirmed user"
If you want to be taken seriously, please refrain from using unnecessary insults. - 18:08, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I wasn't trying to be insulting. Byzantinefire (talk) 19:40, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Magazine
Hey, thanks for your contribution to the magazine and podcast, I'm hoping to have the podcast episode up soon, and I got your interview for the next issue. Thanks! 07:11, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Your welcome. Byzantinefire (talk) 16:58, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

EDIT: I gave Chaser all my things, so you'd have to ask him. But I wouldn't ask him because he hates that question. 03:00, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Byzantinefire (talk) 03:02, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Signature
Hey, this is just to notify you that your signature violates the wiki's Signature Policy, as it lacks your username. Please be sure to fix it, or it may be removed. Thanks! 21:02, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh this is embarrassing. Byzantinefire (talk) 21:21, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

I can help
If you like, I can help you with the Disney wiki Riku page, but the Disney wiki freezes my computer, so you will have to insert it. In return, can you explain to me why you steal other people's content? 12:27, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Because barely anyone on KHWiki gives Disney Wiki enough assistance with Kingdom Hearts related articles I am not that good with writing myself Disney owns a great deal of Kingdom Hearts just about the same as Square Enix does and my view of Disney is virtually infinite and i want that infinite dream to be fulfilled. 16:35, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Then I'll try to help, and then you can also get your position back. Let's discuss more on the IRC, and then maybe you can get more help from just me. 16:49, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. 16:52, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

EOYE 2014 Plaque
^_^ 18:09, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

The Disney Wiki
About your invitations to edit on the Disney Wiki, I have received them. Unfortunately, I just do not have the time to edit on multiple Wikis at once, given my school schedule, personal life, et cetera. Please understand. - 19:32, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * So you did get it well i thought that disney wiki could ease the tension and be a good chance at community service. 19:35, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Avengers: Age of Ultron Parody
Since you like Marvel so much, I thought you'd get a kick out of this:

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16:50, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Magazine
Heyo Byz! I'm going around and checking on people's progress for the magazine contributions. You signed up for a puzzle for the grid and an interview. You sent me an interview between you and Troisnyxetienne, but I need you to convert it into the proper magazine coding format before I can accept it. As for the puzzle, 15M has already sent one in, but you can still feel free to send something in if you want, because we can use it for a future issue, or a backup couldn't hurt if something suddenly unexpected happens with his puzzle. If you'd like to do more than what you've signed up for, feel free to sign up for more on the Journalist Spot, just don't put too much pressure on yourself :) Keep in mind that the deadline is June 23rd, which is less than a month away. Thanks for your contributions and have a good day! 05:54, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Coding format? 16:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

To the magazine scene!

 * 23rd of September? 20:52, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yup and I'd love to see what you got so far! 22:09, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

http://byzantinefire-sandbox.wikia.com/wiki/Ansem_Report I also just purchased the 3.0 edition now. 22:51, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

It looks good so far. When was it said that Dark Baymax came from Baymax's old body? If it wasn't confirmed, I wouldn't add it in. Also, would we be able to get some Kingdom Hearts Unchained X news in there? 23:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I suppose. 00:13, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it was said during the presentation. 00:13, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Artwork
Hey, where is the original source of ? 19:53, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Ansem Report
It looks good, thanks! 19:55, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Insult
Please quote me where I insulted or attacked you. --Webber22 (talk) 22:07, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, now I want you locate and extract the bits of that sentence that insinuate an insult and an attack. --Webber22 (talk) 01:48, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Neither of you are supposed to be edit warring over who gets to be the author of the image. New images should not be uploaded unless you can justify why the new image is better than the previous.
 * Furthermore, if you're having a fight against another editor, especially related to personal attacks, you're supposed to go to Forum:Heartless Manufactory so that it can be channeled into something more productive. 12:36, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Very well. 14:59, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Invitation
Hey there, Byz, this is an invitation for you to take part in our end of year event! You can sign up as either a participant or a judge and we'd love it if you could come aboard. Thanks! 22:15, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts III
Please remember that Kingdom Hearts III material is not to be placed on articles in the mainspace, aside from the Kingdom Hearts III article itself, unless it has been explicitly confirmed through a press release, in words, that the topic will be covered in KH3. Even then, the material needs to be marked with Template:Unreleased. When adding the game icon to an article, you need to provide a link to said press release in your edit summary, or in invisible comments in the article itself. Also, any information placed within an in-universe article also needs to be in-universe. 16:44, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Magazine CRUNCH

 * Are you in the irc? 19:55, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't online. Can I get a progress check? 23:42, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't have the time to write up content with you. Please send me finished drafts of all your pieces ASAP and then I'll see what I can do to improve them from there. 01:29, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Then, you'll have to make a start prompto. By you signing up to a section, it's your responsibility to finish it and send it in by the 23rd. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to write all your sections for you so you're going to have to do some work. If you're worried about quality, I can review the completed sections afterwards. I can understand if you can't get them all in by the 23rd by this point but please, by the 28th at least. 10:13, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Re: Logos to Cover
I found the files of the logos! To avoid having to look for them again in the future, I decided to upload them to the wiki. You can find them here, here, and here. 18:05, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

/KHWV/ sings
This is a friendly reminder that you agreed to record your voice for the /KHWV/ sings for the 10th anniversary. Please get your audio to me by the 27th at the latest so that I'll have time to put it together! Thanks! 19:03, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Another thing to do is the "Meet the Panellists" section as part of the KHWV sings that we did. For this, simply write a 50-100 word blurb about yourself and/or why you joined the Round Room project (see examples in Issue 7). Send this in ASAP. Thank you! 19:07, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Well speak to me on the disney wiki char or the khwiki irc. 22:49, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * For what reason? I don't really have the time at the moment and the instructions for the Meet the Panellists are pretty straightforward If there's something that you need help with, email the wiki address and I'll get back to you. 19:53, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Comment on ShardofTruth's TP

 * Well i think the term is Mountain out of a Molehill. 04:19, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Lol! I know what the actual saying is, but I thought since you said you watched AA during our talk in Chat, you'd get the reference. It's one of Ant-Man's lines from an episode in the second season of the show.-- 20:04, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah of course. 22:18, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Trailer
Looks good. 00:44, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Links? 14:44, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Birthday
Heyo, I saw that I missed your birthday. I hope you had a good one! 05:04, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Also happy birthday. 13:49, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * 4 days late but i thank you for remembering. 17:15, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

WSJ wiki
What is it that you need? I don't know anything about WSJ, so I'd only be help with backend stuff at best. 17:29, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

(I'm sorry if I invaded this section but it's about the same topic.) I unfortunately can't help, seeing I don't know anything about it and I barely have time to balance Keyhole and my own life. Adding this wiki would just make things go overboard on my side, sorry. 22:50, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

The Marvel Database has a distinct advantage however: It's a shared universe. All of those characters show up in countless other serials. Steve Rogers isn't only in Captain America, but you'll find him in quite a few Avengers (duh) and Wolverine stories. Weekly Jump is a magazine that simply publishes all those manga. It's disjointed and without rhythm. You'll be juggling two dozen serials with absolutely no rhyme or reason between them, and before long you'll find yourself bored and disinterested. --Ignis (talk) 23:41, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't care. 23:52, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
 * You go around pestering virtually everyone about this, then act like an outright dick to them. So with that, think I might be reporting this to an admin.  --Ignis (talk) 00:57, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
 * In regards to asking Kunoichi101 to help with your WSJ Wiki, personally, I don't find the problem with it. Objectively, however, is another issue. I know you're doing not any harm by wanting to asking users for help and I understand that, but there is a good reason why many wikias, if not all, across the Internet forbid the use of advertising. The purpose of a wikia is to edit, improve, and gather information on a series into a concise, objective database for all fans to enjoy. It is not to be used to promote advertising for another wikia. While Ignis may have overacted just because you asked Kunoichi101 for help, he does make a valid point of about how advertisement shouldn't be allowed on the wiki. Moreover, the KHWiki isn't even affiliated with your WSJ wikia at all, which kind makes what you're doing seem disrespectful to the goal of a wikia is supposed to be. If you were going to ask Kunoichi101 to help with your WSJ wikia, you could've just asked her via the Narutopedia, as she edits there, too. Moreover, you do not actively contribute to the mainspace wiki at all. Therefore, it really does seem you're just using the KHWiki to benefit your WSJ Wiki, which isn't okay. Again, personally, I don't see the harm of you just asking, but objectively, I can't agree with it. So, I am asking you to please refrain advertising on anymore on the KHWiki. If anything, you should be asking around the wikias concentrating with the WSJ's series instead of on a wiki that absolutely nothing do with WSJ. I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound harsh, but please don't use the KHWiki for advertisement anymore.-- 20:11, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, but...

 * Fair enough at least your more reasonable then other admins from various wiki's. 04:35, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for understanding. No one likes issuing warning templates to users, you know, but this is necessary to help keep the peace. That's why we have the Heartless Manufactory as an alternative way to help resolve issues with users. And thanks for apologizing to Ultima Spark.-- 19:21, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Warning 2
I had enough of this ridiculous hostility between you and Ignis on the KHWiki. For a while now, the of you have at each other's throats. Byzantinefire, I do understand that when you approach users, you do not mean any sort of malicious intent, but when other users disagree with you or say something you don't like, you become hostile. I'm not excusing Ignis's behavior, but you have not shown exemplary behavior, either. After numerous warnings and confrontations, Byzantinefire, you and Ignis continue to violate community standards by personally attacking the other. You have been warned about your behavior in the past and taking everything as a personal affront to your character. While I understand your circumstances, you have insulted other users for simply stating their opinions that contrast your own, and continually engage with fights with Ignis. If you and Ignis continue to provoke each other to start fights, both of you will receive blocks for misconduct.-- 20:38, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Advice
Ignis has been blocked for personally attacking you. I really wished the two of you would have worked out your disagreements, though. I advise you to not reply to any of his comments and stay away from his talk page if you don't want to escalate the situation further. Regarding your first message to me, though, let me clarify something: Ignis telling you to shut up is a personal attack. He had no right to tell you that, dismissing you when you voiced that Ignis shouldn't be cursing during a page discussion. That's all I have to say in the matter.-- 23:11, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * He might be right and i'm aware of his block i was reading what has been going on. 23:13, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * If you've been following what's going on, then you know that Ignis is now banned from the KHWiki permanently. He made things worst from himself by deleting content from the project page and violating the KHWiki's rules about removing content his talk page, as well continuing his hostile and malicious behavior.
 * I will NEVER understand why he acted towards you the way he did. Never. Aside from the times you were offended when users disagree with you and responded with hostility, you never sought out users with the intention of being rude or malicious. I don't understand why he was so adamant about getting you blocked for even the tiniest things. Anyway, you didn't do anything bad this time around, Byzantinefire, but I'd like to remind you that you have also received warnings in the past. Again, I don't understand why Ignis and you acted to hostile to each other, but I really hope something like this doesn't happen again. -- 17:39, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm confused at the last part. 17:49, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm just saying to be careful not to get into any more squabbles. Ignis had it out for you, you know? Being hypocritical, Ignis went to report to me whenever you did something, like when you asked Kunoichi101 about your Jump database wikia, for example. Because of his tendency to overact, every time something happened between the two of you, it gets blown out of proportion. So, just be more mindful, because I don't want something like this happening again with another user.-- 18:08, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually i was confused about the typo. 18:09, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * A typo? Ah, I think I know what you're talking about. I fixed it. Still, be more specify about what you're confused about next time; otherwise, how am supposed to understand what you're referring to? Well, see you around.-- 18:12, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright. 18:13, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

At personal risk, I'm going to give my opinion on the matter here (which I've witnessed over several months). While Ignis's attitude was way over the line, he nonetheless did have a point in that a substantial amount (as opposed to a very small minority) of Byzantine's edits are basically irrelevant to the greater goal of the wiki as a whole (ie. be a repository on KH series information). Look, Byzantine, I understand you want to discuss stuff you're passionate about with people, but that kind of thing is really better suited to a casual IRC channel or some sort of forum (or even e-mail, if the user allows it).  Ultima Spark   (talk)  04:41, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You know there is also a discord channel right? 14:46, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I put my message here because more people are likely to see it, and to serve as a permanent record unless an admin specifically strikes it off. It would inevitably vanish from a chatroom (which is by nature transitory).  Ultima Spark   (talk)  Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png 16:12, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Discord is different the messages stays on unless it gets deleted by the user who wrote it or an admin. 16:18, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Regardless of what Ignis said (which was way, way over the line), Ninja herself warned Byzantine to just avoid Ignis and stop provoking him. Specifically, we have never had a no profanity rule. Coming into a discussion on wiki content just to basically call out Ignis on a rule we don't even have was a clear provocation, especially when two admins were already in the discussion with Ignis and didn't have a problem with his behavior.
 * Byzantine's contribution metrics are not an issue. Byzantine does a lot of the welcoming new editors, and on a fundamental level, we don't have a quota for editors to adhere to. He has been asked to refrain from off-topic posting, which as far as I can see (barring this incident) he has avoided since then.
 * Per Ninja's own warning, Byzantine should receive a misconduct block. If Ignis comes back, Byzantine, for the love of all that is holy, do not go around trying to be an admin where he's involved. If you have a problem with his behavior, contact an admin privately -- preferably on IRC or something so it doesn't become a "public call out". 15:04, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * For the record that wasn't provocation it was a mere suggestion for basic language standards. 16:48, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It was an inappropriate place to bring up such a suggestion, and Ninja had already warned you about it. 16:57, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Then where should it have been put? 16:59, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Following the "assuming good faith" policy, I figured that might be the case when you posted that on the discussion page, though I do admit that I was debating on whether to give you a warning. If Ignis didn't post that tirade on my talk page, the worst that either of you two could have gotten was a scolding instead of a block, simply because of how light the offense was originally. However, Ignis escalated the situation further by personally attacking you on my talk page before I even had a chance to mediate the situation and then start abusing multiple IP addresses simply to curse the two of us out. Personally, I agree that profanity shouldn't be used on page discussions, as it pretty much violates the common policy that all discussions on wikias must be kept civilized and using profanity opens the window for hostility to spring up later down the road. I've experienced and seen the same issue across many wikias. In any case, I've warned Byzantinefire already to be more mindful of his behavior. Unlike Ignis, Byzantinefire makes a conscious attempt to watch his behavior after receiving warnings for previous misconducts. If he does act out in the future, he will receive another warning.-- 17:51, 9 May 2017 (UTC)