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Should it be added that ''Vex'' means to disturb and annoy in little ways, and that, ironically, Vexen does so to most fans? Or should that be left out due to it being opinion?--[[Special:Contributions/72.240.185.120|72.240.185.120]] 23:29, November 16, 2009 (UTC) | Should it be added that ''Vex'' means to disturb and annoy in little ways, and that, ironically, Vexen does so to most fans? Or should that be left out due to it being opinion?--[[Special:Contributions/72.240.185.120|72.240.185.120]] 23:29, November 16, 2009 (UTC) | ||
Yeah. I'm pretty sure many people find Vexen annoying, but that's a personal opinion unless it is confirmed that he is annoying!-- | Yeah. I'm pretty sure many people find Vexen annoying, but that's a personal opinion unless it is confirmed that he is annoying!--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:32, November 16, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Yeah, I love Vexen.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 01:24, November 17, 2009 (UTC) | :Yeah, I love Vexen.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 01:24, November 17, 2009 (UTC) | ||
Me too. But he creeps me out!-- | Me too. But he creeps me out!--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 01:29, November 17, 2009 (UTC) | ||
"I'm a scientist. Experiments are what I do, yeeessssss......." [[User:JudgmentDay95]] | "I'm a scientist. Experiments are what I do, yeeessssss......." [[User:JudgmentDay95]] | ||
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It's quite ironic. I used to have not hatred, but a strong dislike, for Vexen. Then I realized he'd be the only character I was good at in Days for a long time XD - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 01:33, November 17, 2009 (UTC) | It's quite ironic. I used to have not hatred, but a strong dislike, for Vexen. Then I realized he'd be the only character I was good at in Days for a long time XD - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 01:33, November 17, 2009 (UTC) | ||
Yeah, but everytime he looks at you, it's like he want to take out your internal organs and experiment on it. Creepy.-- | Yeah, but everytime he looks at you, it's like he want to take out your internal organs and experiment on it. Creepy.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 01:38, November 17, 2009 (UTC) | ||
Well, to be honest, if I had half of my being ripped out of me and was forced to live the rest of my days as a demented shell, I'd go nuts as well. [[User:JudgmentDay95]] | Well, to be honest, if I had half of my being ripped out of me and was forced to live the rest of my days as a demented shell, I'd go nuts as well. [[User:JudgmentDay95]] | ||
I'll be fine with it, actually. Though, I still want to feel happiness and joy, of course. I can get Vexen, but Xaldin is one of the members that I don't get very well. He's very complex.-- | I'll be fine with it, actually. Though, I still want to feel happiness and joy, of course. I can get Vexen, but Xaldin is one of the members that I don't get very well. He's very complex.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 01:47, November 17, 2009 (UTC) | ||
I have a comment to make on this segment: | I have a comment to make on this segment: | ||
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{{Bananaphone|sad=Aw, this is terrible. Nobody else can give an creepy laugh like Nachi Nozawa. His laugh gives me nightmares. Guess it's good that Vexen seems unlikely to return.}} | {{Bananaphone|sad=Aw, this is terrible. Nobody else can give an creepy laugh like Nachi Nozawa. His laugh gives me nightmares. Guess it's good that Vexen seems unlikely to return.}} | ||
== Speculation? == | |||
{{LyingMemories|time=[[User:Lying Memories|Lying Memories]] 22:09, August 6, 2010 (UTC)|luxord="This is mostly due to his recurring incompetence and preference of not sullying his hands like Zexion, though the latter can easily hold his own in battle." | |||
I think this is a tad speculative on Vexen's part, at least in regards to his perceived competence (and honestly I wouldn't say he's incompetent myself). Given that he's the lead scientist and most of his efforts were to research the complexities of the heart, the Replica Program, and other such things isn't it more likely that his low rank in the Organization is due to how he just... doesn't get many missions? Because his focus lies elsewhere? | |||
Granted, ''that's'' speculative on my part. Thus, discussion.}} | |||
{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 15:17, 9 July 2014 (UTC)|default=Members of the Organization often refer to Vexen's competence, mentioning how he must "prove himself" or reference his [lack of] prowess in battle. That's why the article is written like that.}} | |||
==Derek Stephen Prince's podcast?== | |||
Kingdom Hearts World apparently has an interview with Derek Stephen Prince, [http://kingdomheartsworld.net/podcast/StevePrinceInterview.mp3 you can listen to it here.] Make what you will of it. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 19:55, 10 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
That's cool. I'll have a listen to it tomorrow, but is there any neat information in the interview?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:59, 11 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
{{TNE|time=12:20, 11 July 2015 (UTC)|text=Having listened to it, I can gather these: | |||
*When Prince recorded a lot of the stuff he was doing, HE RECORDED VEXEN'S VOICE IN A CAR. He recorded it in a laptop to a pre-amp, connected to a mic with a pop shelter, and that is basically the garage version. He also did a lot of audition stuff in his car. HE AUDITIONED FOR KINGDOM HEARTS THAT WAY. (They obviously wanted the best people to VA, and there were 887-odd VAs auditioning for Vexen -- he beat them all by simply recording in his car.) | |||
*When asked "Where did you draw inspiration for Vexen," he said a lot of Vexen is there for the Japanese version. The original VA wasn't high and mighty according to Prince, but rather had a calm and educated voice, but could be maniacal if he wanted to. Now the producers didn't want Vexen to have an accent -- they simply wanted Vexen to be American -- but Prince decided to throw in some (Tim Curry???) in there. Flamboyance was what he went for. | |||
*He ''did'' try Re:Chain of Memories and couldn't get into it. He couldn't get past the first world (Traverse Town)... | |||
*Even (whom he also voiced) didn't have as much an impact on him as Vexen did, to the point that Prince doesn't remember Even at all. He was only in recording Even's lines for an hour, as opposed to five hours per day on Vexen -- where he really got involved. He found Even "a little less flamboyant" and "not as intellectual". He, too, believes that the writers could have done more with the apprentices, but knows that the challenge faced by the writers is to focus on the Disney stuff, which the kids can most relate to. | |||
So that's what I gathered. | |||
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{{NinjaSheik|text=Wow, that's interesting! And it seems like Kingdom Hearts World did an interview with Zexion's VA, too, Mr. Vincent Corazza, too. :D You know, some wikis put stuff like how VAs (or TV/movie actors) think about their characters and how they auditioned for it and stuff in their trivia sections. I think it'd be fun to mention stuff like that.}} | |||
{{TNE|time=22:14, 11 July 2015 (UTC)|happytext=That is the purpose of trivia after all. I think it'd be fun. | |||
I heard from the grapevine here on the wiki, several years ago, that of all the VAs, Quinton Flynn was the most approachable of all of them. If the podcast gets revived (and is done on UTC for once!), perhaps getting an interview with him might be fun?}} | |||
{{KrytenKoro|This would all be great info for a Development section.}} | |||
{{NinjaSheik|text=You know, you're right! :D The FFWiki does the same thing with their characters, and they have been listening to the interviews because I see them update the ''Type-0'' characters' creation/development sections! Also, Mr. Prince mentioned that, like, over 800 (???) people auditioned for Vexen! I need to go listen to the Zexion's interview tomorrow!}} | |||
== "Vexen secretly collects Roxas's memories" == | |||
"While Roxas continues to explore Twilight Town, Vexen secretly collects Roxas's memory of the town as data. " | |||
Source that Vexen was lying in CoM?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:25, 22 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
== At the end == | |||
Is there any confirmation that Vexen regains his heart after the final battle? The edit that put it on his page says that he no longer has yellow eyes during the end scene, but that has nothing to do with whether he is a Nobody or complete person. The yellow eyes were just signifying that they had a piece of Xehanort's heart in them; otherwise, the original Organization XIII would all have had yellow eyes from the start. So his green(edit) eyes now would just be a sign that he is no longer a vessel for Xehanort, which would make sense since Xehanort is officially gone now. Unless there was something I missed? [[User:Sirlionel13|Sirlionel13]] ([[User talk:Sirlionel13|talk]]) 00:10, 20 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
His eyes were green, not blue. [[User:CrinosWolf500|CrinosWolf500]] ([[User talk:CrinosWolf500|talk]]) 00:29, 20 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
:My mistake, fixed it. Question still stands, though [[User:Sirlionel13|Sirlionel13]] ([[User talk:Sirlionel13|talk]]) 00:45, 21 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
::Points in favour of being Even instead of Vexen in the ending: Saix faded away, and when Isa returned, he lacks ‘Nort’s signature yellow eyes or pointed ears (I think the implication is that it triggered some sort of “purge”). Xigbar didn’t fade like the others, and when he appears in the epilogue, he ''does'' have them. Then again, Xigbar’s situation is unique, so… ''[[User:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#002395 ;">Ultima Spark</span>]]'' '''[[User talk:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#007FFF ;">(talk)</span>]]''' [[File:Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png|17px]] 11:59, 21 February 2019 (UTC) | |||