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this may already be discussed

while this may have already been discussed, what about the link of terra with zack from ffvii? after all ffvii charecters have appeared in KH.

That was discussed elsewhere, on the Master Eraqus page if I'm not mistaken, and it was decided that only the reference to Reno on Axel's page would stay, because that was confirmed by Tetsuya Nomura. LapisScarab 05:17, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? Plus Zack appears so it's pretty much null

Armor form

The armor form in the gallery is from the story mode not from Joint Struggle, here is the article that talks about it [1]. Now that "you" know please stop editing it to say its from joint struggle ;D--Masgrande 04:58, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Can anybody find any differences between the story armor and the LS armor, besides the bucklers and cape?Glorious CHAOS! 03:16, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Battles

Zonnic2 - You will eat your cheese Demyx. TALK - {{{time}}} {{{text}}}

Trivia article on Terra as a summon/D-Link

RobbieNewton1 - Don't Mock Me! TALK - {{{time}}} Is this really true though, Mickey was playable in KH2 and 358/2 Days

There. I improved that trivia. I hope you liked.

Terra's helmet and the jackal reference

I removed the reference to jackals that was placed with the description of Terra's helmet. My reasoning is that the jackal reference is based on the initial Anubis reference, and to help the article appear more concise. Here's a link to an image of a jackal, which clearly shows no resemblance to Terra's helmet. My argument is that the appearance of Terra's helmet can be interpreted differently depending on who sees it. For example, I for one thought it looked like Batman (shown here and here, especially the second image). But I don't want it to say "the helmet looks much like Batman's ears" either. My point is, it would be better to leave the description neutral, and let the actual image of the armor do the "talking". --WorldOfChaos 16:01, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Fight

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Uumm yeah, does anyone have any ideas or theories on wtf wuz up with that fight thing between Terra and Aqua?

Maybe something like when Sora and Riku fight but diffrent reason. --Cococrash11 23:48, December 15, 2009 (UTC)Cococrash11

Pteprocks - Sorry to keep you, Sephiroth! TALK - Is that the best you can do? — Pteprocks 21:56, December 18, 2009 (UTC) Well, it looks to me like it's in the opening (or I suppose it could be ending) FMV (Judging by the graphics). So I have 2 theories: 1. If it's in the opening, it cloud be like a practice match or something in the Land of Departure. 2. If it's in the ending, it could have something to do with Terra's eyes turning yellow. Maybe somehow Master Xehanort is like controlling him or something, and Aqua has to try and stop him.

--I Agree on both parts that it could be either a sparring match while still in Land of Departure or an end of game scene but in the still Terra looks more like hes fighting to kill than for practice or fun so to me it seems more likely its towards the end when they turn from friends to enemys, assuming they do ofcourse.--Ximodnic 18:26, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Ataradesu]] Qu'as-tu fait à son coeur ? — 21:52, December 23, 2009 (UTC) Since he doesn't have yellow eyes and none of them is wearing their armors so I definitely don't think it takes place at the end.

Xabryn - I don't care if you're real!You're not better! TALK - It's nice to have darkness on my side.04:12, December 29, 2009 (UTC) Maybe it is because of the Master Qualification Exam, i mean maybe the test is a fight for show the keyblade wielders abilities. or maybe is because of Terra submiting himself to darkness

Firaga44 - Everyone's favorite anime nerd is back and kicking!Well not everyone's favorite but you people get the idea >.< TALK - All i hear during that cutscene blah blah blah. Well in the new birth by sleep trailer i think master eraqus said something along the lines of"If it seems like Terra is turning to darkness bring him back"well maybe he does Aqua tries to stop him he refuses and their fighting because of that?Well that's all i can think of

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA The expressions on both of there faces makes me thnk it's more than some sparring session. on another note though does anyone have a guess on the where they're fighting at

Key-blade master - I don't need a weapon! My friends are my power! TALK - Roxas... I wish I could meet him too... — 02:04, January 31, 2010 (UTC) From what i've heard, terra and aqua's fighting is due to the master qualifaction exam.

Terra's English voice

Since English actors are already bein' confirmed for the cast...I'm bettin' on JYB as Terra. I just know it's gonna happen. Kaihedgie 20:23, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'm betting he's getting an minorly famous live action actor rather than a professional voice actor, just like the rest of the main characters. HarpieSiren 20:21, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Terra's ending *spoiler*

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 00:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC) Just wanted to say what I know as of yet, mainly the ending: After the KHIIFM secret move scene, Terra fights with Vanitas, but MX soon tells Vanitas to go find Ventus. Terra then fights with MX. Once that battle is won, Kingdom Hearts is "completed" and the door to light opens up, apparently. MX opens up his own Heart with his Keyblade (just like Sora did in KHI), and sends his Heart into terra, to take over his body. Once MX's heart is inside Terra, He is suddenly in full armor, and holding MX's keyblade. He talkes his armor off, and It now looks like Terra, but his hair is white. MX has taken over his body (he's become the Xehanort we know) Suddenly, the empty Armor btands up, and summons Terra's KHIIFM keyblade. The armor (the Lingering Sentiment) and "Terranort" fight. After beating "Terranort", the Lingering Sentiment gets down on it's knees, and goes into the pose we see him in in KHIIFM (looks like he hasn't moved an inch in 10 years...) Soon, Kingdom Hearts disappears, and Terranort does too (we can guess that Terranort ends up in Radiant Garden, where Ansem finds him... suffering from amnesia, and takes him under his wing. After Kingdom Hearts has disappeared, the Lingering Sentiment (as said before) is perfectly still in the same spot until everything fades to black. Then we hear Terra's voice saying "Aqua... Ventus..." and then something in Japanese which i didn't understand... The end for Terra! References: Terra VS. MX + cutscene Lingering Sentiment vs. Terranort + cutscene/ending Well, shouldn't this be added to the article?

Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 00:12, January 9, 2010 (UTC) I was hoping to add that, as soon as the article was unlocked. It all makes sense now :P

KrytenKoro - "Because I knew something he didn't. I knew that I was lying. Seriously, sir. 'No silicon heaven'? Where would all of the calculators go?" TALK - Doesn't this completely muck up KH and KHII? After all, if it's just MX's heart and Terra's body and Soul, Xemnas shouldn't have been evil at all. Makes sense for "Ansem", I guess, since he ends up being a youthened MX (and might explain why there are 2 Heartless there!), but he shouldn't have even looked like Terra.

So this image: File:Terra becoming xehanort.png is real? Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared. — 01:21, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oddishh - We're friends. Therefore, I want to ask you something... Destroy me. TALK - Our connected hearts are my power! indeed it is. Got in from youtube and somebody print screened it. It's real, i made sure.

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 01:34, January 9, 2010 (UTC) Yes. That's "Terranort"

YES!!!! I was right all along about Terra being Xehanort! Of course, it really isn't that hard to tell. Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared. — 01:40, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Venkix - Having no heart, no emotions. It's Better this way. TALK - Open your heart. - Yeah Terra is Xehanort. It was predictable. Since its a prequel and everything...

But still incredibly cool! Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared. — 01:54, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

You know what. After finding this out.......Birth by Sleep...is Mega Man Zero 3 D: Terra's voiced by Ryotaro Okiayu, who also voices Zero. Xehanort's voiced by Chikao Atsuko, who voices Weil. Xehanort/Weil steals the bodies of Zero/Terra for their own evil ends. Both Terra and Zero go to sleep after defeating Xehanort and Weil, never again to be disturbed for decade(s). Kaihedgie 02:09, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

That's pretty much exactly what happens. It's cool, but MMZ3 did it first and way better.Glorious CHAOS! 02:22, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Never played MMZ3, so this story is a first for me. Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared. — 02:24, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Eh. Anyway. With the previous questions bein' answered. Time for...MORE QUESTIONS!

• Why doesn't Xehanort's Heartless and Xemnas wield a Keyblade? We know that the Keyblade is neutral in alignment as both light and dark users can wield one. We also know now that the Xehanort we know and Master Xehanort are one in the same.

• What of Terra's body after the creation of Xehanort's Heartless and Xemnas? Will it really come back despite that Terra has become the Lingering Sentiment?

Yeeeah Kaihedgie 02:29, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 02:58, January 9, 2010 (UTC) Nomura once stated that if you forget how to wield the keyblade, you lose the power to do so. Permanently. It is my theory that when MX took over Terra's body, Terra's soul and perhaps his Heart too, were "moved" into his armor. Then Xehanort was Terra's body+MX's soul and Heart, which explains the behavior of Xemnas and "Ansem", as they are the Body and Heart. I wonder why Terra's remains (the Lingering Sentiment) couldn't go anywhere... Why was it stationary in the Keyblade Graveyard? And I wonder how Aqua's armor (with her spirit in it) ended up in the Chamber of Repose... I dunno for sure, but I've heard that Her story ends with her heading out to look for her missing friend; Terra. I really hope that someone will crack up the secret movie soon, as it is said to have more info...

So is the whole Xehanort/amnesia thing just a ploy by MX, or did he really forget everything when he did the takeover of Terra's body? And about the stationary Terra's remains, maybe he simply couldn't move anywhere, or had no other place to go. It doesn't make sense, but oddly enough I can imagine Nomura saying that for some reason. Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared. — 03:05, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

The thing is after "Terranort" is born terra's remains become the lingering sentiment and knock xehanort out.so yeah head injurys. also in gameplay terms one of terra's mode changes "Dark Impulse" should probably be added to the article at some point.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Perhaps Terra's soul was bound to the Kingdom Hearts-esque moon in some way and couldn't leave the world it was in.

The moon disappeared though didn't it? And I didn't see it in the KHIIFM battle.... But that does make sense.... The way the moon was shining directly on him as the clouds covered it..... Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared. — 03:33, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Master Xehanort Talk to Me! The Keyblades and the legend of the Keyblade War has been passed down to us. Yes, let your angry heart be stained in darkness! — 16.07 Well, I played KH2FM+, and I thought that Terra was the Lingering Sentiment. And that He and a link with Master Xehanort to become Xehanort. Now it's just been confirmed. But we still don't know the outcome for Ven and aqua, and they are all important! I need to know if Ven is Roxas! Someone get the info!

Well, I wouldn't say Ven is Roxas, but there has to be a connection between him and Sora. Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.

Ataradesu]] Qu'as-tu fait à son coeur ? I just want you guys to know that Master Xehanort's plan failed. He took over Terra's body for a while only. LS is not Terra, it's the good within him. What's left in Terra's body is Terra's darkside, Eraqus (for some reason...) and MX. When MX is in control, he has yellow eyes. However, when he's found by Ansem, he still has yellow eyes and says he's called Xehanort. But in the secret ending, we do see Evil Terra and MX talking in, we guess, "their" body (since the light around them indicates they have no physical shape, the same that was around MX when he got rid of his heart and disappeared) and what's following is pretty interesting. Braig goes to talk to Xehanort, calling him ironicly "Master", and then stops, and stares at his eyes, which are brown, not yellow, and Braig then says "Impossible... Terra ?!" , since Braig was smiling when he heard Terranort said he was Xehanort, and that he's surprised to see Terra after that, we can assume MX didn't control long. It's more like Terra's darkness with MX Eraqus and Terra's heart in the body. Oh gosh Nomura, let's not even talk about Vanitas >_>.

With braig's scene it seemed less like an indication that master vacated the premises and more like an uncertainty about who was in charge.

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I'd have to put another vote in for "uncertainty" on Braig's part. Also, who's to say that Lingering Sentiment was motionless for 10 years? Admittedly, I've forgotten a good deal about the hidden battle, but since you access it through the Hall of the Cornerstone, isn't it possible that Sora's battle with Lingering Sentiment takes place in the past, the same way it's possible to enter Timeless River through the Hall?

Also, what's this I keep hearing now and again about Aqua's armor in the Chamber of Repose having her soul in it? I recall Xigbar saying he'd heard another voice in the Chamber on occasions, but for all we know Xemnas might've had a split personality and would argue with his theoretical Terra half. Do we ever actually hear the armor speak? ChicoKiri 07:41, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ironic

Anyone else find it ironic that Terra's final boss is against Terra, more or less. Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared. — 03:22, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Venkix - Having no heart, no emotions. It's Better this way. TALK - Open your heart. - Yeah it is ironic but it does make sence because terra's final bosss had to be himself since he was "fighting the darkness within his heart"

Fight with Eraqus?

I just read that Terra has boss fight against Eraqus. When and why does this happen? Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.

I'm not sure, but in a video I saw Eraqus was trying to kill Ventus (I think) and Terra suddenly appears and stops him. Terra then sends Ven somewhere using a portal while Terra stays behind and battle Eraqus.--Xsonicdragon 00:30, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm.... Well thanks for the info, but that just leaves me with more questions. What the heck was wrong with Eraqus? Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.

Well, also in another video but the same event taking place it shows a flashback between Eraqus and MX. They are talking and then MX attacks Eraqus with balls of darkness. Then Eraqus takes out his keyblade and tries to kill Ven. You know what happens after that.--Xsonicdragon 03:29, January 12, 2010 (UTC) User:Naruto195/TalkTemplate No no your right Naruto195--Darkstar16 13:22, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Key-blade master - I don't need a weapon! My friends are my power! TALK - Roxas... I wish I could meet him too... — 01:56, January 31, 2010 (UTC) from what i've seen/heard Naruto195 is right. Eraqus realizes what Ven is and what he is truely capable of (im trying not to give stuff away), not knowing his reasoning, terra stops eraqus and saves ven.

Naruto195 - I'm Zack nice to meet ya! TALK - "Embrace your Dreams,and what ever happends protect your honor as SOLDIER — Naruto195 04:16, January 31, 2010 (UTC) Glad to know my guess was right. My other guess is that maybe Eraqus knew about the X-blade(not trying to spoil) and knew the link to Ven,but thats another guess,one I doubt

Key-blade master - I don't need a weapon! My friends are my power! TALK - Roxas... I wish I could meet him too... — 04:32, January 31, 2010 (UTC) My quess is that he was unaware of the x-blade in the beginning, but as xehanort's plan was slowly revealed he may have learned about it. explaining his attack on ventus.

My theory on Terra/Xehahort

I believe that Master Xehahort has combined himself with Terra, creating Xehahort. Terra's heart went into the Lingering Sentiment causing Xehahort to strive for a heart based on Terra's needs but Xehahort would also have wanted power because of MX's wants.

After Xehanort split into Xehanort's Heartless and Xemnas, Xehanort's Heartless reflected MX's plans to control everything using darkness and went after Riku because he took memories from Terra and knew that Riku had darkness inside of him. Xemnas reflected both Terra and MX with his need for a heart and lust for power.

When Xehahort's Heartless and Xemnas were destroyed, Master Xehahort was finally gone, leaving Terra alone. As for the figure in the secret ending of BBS that spoke to Aqua, I believe that was what was left of Terra, regretting the pain he caused Sora.

Did you read the stuff above? And it's spelled Xehanort not Xenahort. And please sign your posts. Randomnessity Looks like you're already prepared.

voice acter???

Who's Terra's voice acter???--Darkstar16 13:19, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Japanese voice actor is listed on the article. At the moment his English voice actor hasn't been announced, but we'll put it up once we have a confirmed source.--Lapis ofthe Night 13:57, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

although their only connection is that Terra chose Riku to wield the Keyblade sometime in the future.

What? Where was this mentioned? I can't find it anywhere.Neverfate 01:25, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

In a cutscene on Destiny Island. Riku told Terra about his dream in leaving the island, Terra then asked Riku to try and hold his keyblade while telling him to become a Keyblade Master so he can travel around the world freely. I think it should be "asking him to wield the Keyblade sometime in the future" but it's preety much the same 17master 14:21, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Terra, MX and Eraqus may be alive

Xabryn - I don't care if you're real!You're not better! TALK - It's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}} In the Reconnect Kingdom Hearts MX says that with time terra's heart would become a part of his heart, in KH Kairi's heart was in the same in Sora's body but the Keyblade of people's hearts free it as Xehanort's heartless is inside Riku Terra and Master Eraqus heart may be inside him too so maybe, with the keyblade of people's heart, Riku's heart can be separeted from the other hearts.

"The Radiant Garden"

I don't quite get why there is an edit war on this. It's not like you'd say, "Let's go to the Washington DC!" You'd say, "Let's go to Washington DC!"Glorious CHAOS! 03:15, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Terra's Keyblade

The unique way that Terra summons his keyblade, all cuby and data-like, was that ever explained or even mentioned??? Black Tornado 20:28, March 19, 2010 (UTC)Black Tornado

watch youtube it's shown in almost every Terra vids 17master 14:24, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Terra's summoning jutsu errmm keyblade summoning

Serph21 - Angels in Flight TALK - 14:05, March 30, 2010 (UTC) is he the only one who summons his keyblade in a unique way? what about ven and aqua?

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? Am I mistaken, or did Aqua summon her Keyblade in a burst of cherry blossoms (?) at one point? I think it was in the Jump Festa '10 trailer.

Master Xehanort's Keyblade is summoned in a flash of dark energy. Vanitas's is summoned in blue fire with small red sparks of electricity. Kaihedgie 15:02, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

@maggosh: really? i didn't notice that, might as well check again...hmm what about ven?Serph21 15:18, April 9, 2010 (UTC)Serph21

@Kaihedgie: didn't notice that also lol :DSerph21 15:18, April 9, 2010 (UTC)Serph21

so i watched it again...aqua summoned it with cherry blossoms confirmed. vanitas' confirmed also, ven's lame nothing special lolz. i doubt master xehanort's i think that the flash of dark energy is when he summoned the blue kingdom hearts coz i saw no keyblade after that...is it me or master eraqus also has a unique way of summoning his keyblade?Serph21 15:29, April 9, 2010 (UTC)Serph21

Refer to Xehanort's 'birth' as well as Master Xehanort giving Erauqs his scars Kaihedgie 04:03, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Everyone has it own way to summon the keyblade only Sora and Ventus have the same way(I think)--Xabryn 22:13, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

No.i - I'm Ventus. Call me Ven. TALK - Leave this to me! ~ 22:40, April 14, 2010 (UTC) Actually, I think the way the keyblades are summoned are specific to the keyblade itself.

in the gameplay yes ut when the story appears the wayto summon the keyblade depends on the user--Xabryn 22:21, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

mimicry of the Past

In 358/2 days, when Riku is testing Roxas, He repeats the same words that Terra says in Ven's flashback in Radiant Garden. Dragonraptyr 08:42, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

What words?... Well I don't remember it but i'll check it and if it is true it is probably because of Ansem's heart inside Riku--Xabryn 17:55, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Riku says that line a number of times, including before the fight with World of Chaos. It's a reoccurring line, but I wouldn't read too much into it. --Neumannz 18:05, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh you mean "Come on Sora, i thought that you were stronger than that", Terra say it in Radiant Garden?--Xabryn 18:12, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Its just a minor thing for players to look at to help establish a connection. Nothing else about it. Naruto195 19:59, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts II and Final Mix

So we're not to have the game templates listing that Terra, Aqua, and Ventus as well as Vanitas and Master Xehanort appeared in these games, and not just Birth by Sleep, but we're allowed to have sections describing their roles in them? I understand the reasoning behind it, but this is very inconsistent, the way we're contradicting ourselves here. If we could please get to the bottom of this... I understand the secret endings aren't exactly "legit," but they are still character appearances, and why characters such as Roxas should be listed as appearing in Kingdom Hearts and its Final Mix, as well as Marluxia and "Ansem" appearing in Kingdom Hearts II's opening. I'm not particularly on any side in this situation, but this could become very confusing or even troublesome in the future. If Terra, Aqua, and Ventus have sections describing their roles in the "non-canon" appearances, then Master Xehanort and Vanitas should as well, and the game template should be added to remain consistent. - EternalNothingnessXIII 11:55, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Roxas isn't listed as appearing in KH1, and "Ansem" in the FMV isn't mentioned in his KHII section.

The story sections are not meant to catologue simple appearances or mentions. They are supposed to be the direct history of that character. They should only be broken up by game as a frame of reference. That's why the contents of Mickey's flashback with Xehanort should be mentioned in the pre-KH, not the KHII.

The secret videos, though, are uncanon, and are not fully compatible with the events of the series. As such, it could be mentioned in the trivia or a possible "Other appearances" that a character appeared in a secret video, but it should not be in the story section. Since it's an "other appearance", akin to appearing in the cards or maybe some commercial, it should not be represented in the game template, which are also a sort of "history of the series" thing. In short, if a character's story section does mention a secret video, remove it.

Then again, the game template thing is fuzzier. I personally think it wouldn't make sense to place them there when they don't rightly appear, and their article wouldn't be able to cover the info, but there is still an argument to be made for using the game templates to include secret video characters.Glorious CHAOS! 21:56, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Am I the only one?

Naruto195 —What the hell did you do Angeal!? TALK - "Is that? Is that your idea of honor?." — Naruto195 19:47, May 3, 2010 (UTC) \Am I the only one who thinks this page should be protected? People keep adding stuff from "Terra being able to see the future" to "Terra being Sora's dad" WHich makes no sense.

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? Clairvoyance is understandable, but him being Sora's dad; I haven't seen anyone put that up lately.

"Story" section length

The section for Terra's story information is incredibly long; in fact, I think that it is so long, that it will appear to run on redundantly and seem unappealing. I think that this could be slightly abridged, or be divided by subsections if necessary. My only issue with the latter solution is where to divide the section, since most of the information takes place during the game's ending and climax, while the majority of the plot is briefly mentioned. If anyone could provide their solutions or opinions on the suggested solutions, that would be class. Thanks! --^DTN 04:03, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...! TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time. — 07:19, May 6, 2010 (UTC)   I think we're trying not to use subsections anymore, but yes to abridging. I think there is plenty in the story section that can be summarized more succinctly than it is now.