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I see that this page needs help. I'm on it. Input: Should there be a sleight category? [[User:Otenko|Otenko]] 10:06, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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* [[Talk:Sleight/Archive 1|Archive 1]] - February 13, 2010
Riku's  article has sleights written, and it's more official, Sonic Blade, Ragnarok, Strike Raid, Ars Arcanum has their own article, and I'm getting headache from all this shit. Should special abilities be merged into their respective  ability article and should Ally abilities be merged. Answer NOW.--[[user:NeloAngelo|N/A]]
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:What do you mean by Special Abilities? [[User:Hexedmagica|The]]  [[User talk:Hexedmagica|Hexed]]
::[[Sonic Blade]], [[Ars Arcanum]], [[Ragnarok]], [[Trinity Limit]],[[Strike Raid]]--[[user:NeloAngelo|N/A]]
:::Keep special, merge ally. [[User:Hexedmagica|The]]  [[User talk:Hexedmagica|Hexed]]
:::BWAHAHAHAHA!!! How long I've waited for that word!!!--[[user:NeloAngelo|N/A]]
:::Why? [[User:Hexedmagica|The]]  [[User talk:Hexedmagica|Hexed]]
::::Because [[Forum:Okay... We REALLY need a serious discussion regarding the Abilities Section.|nobody cared the shit I posted]] *sobs*--[[user:NeloAngelo|N/A]]
::::LOL[[User:Hexedmagica|The]]  [[User talk:Hexedmagica|Hexed]] (BTW Nelo 2x ec)
:::::Whoops...oh well, another day, another topped ec record.--[[user:NeloAngelo]]
::::::OK.... [[User:Hexedmagica|The]]  [[User talk:Hexedmagica|Hexed]]
:::::::No one answered, because we figured [[Talk:Kingdom_Hearts_Abilities#Parent_page|it had been settled 3 weeks ago]], so the question seemed out of place. --[[User:Hecko X|Hecko X]] 13:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
:Well, it's because I don't exactly understand what the last line you've posted, and therefore I do not take any drastic movements, since you said you'll be working on it sooner or later.--[[user:NeloAngelo|N/A]]
::Yeah... I've been busy with weekly proficiency tests, test exams, my part-time job, animation work and all kinds of stuff that left me with little to no time to do more than 5 minute edits. When I get more freetime than that, I usually powernap, since I don't have time to sleep at night. I will get there... eventually. Maybe friday afternoon, if I'm lucky. --[[User:Hecko X|Hecko X]] 13:32, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 
== Defining Sleight Types ==
 
To make sure everyone's on the same page, we need to define what makes a an Attack Sleight, Magic Sleight, etc. I offer these definitions for your perusal:
 
''Friend Sleights'' - any sleight including one or more Friend cards;
 
''Summon Sleights'' - any sleight including one or more Summon-type Magic cards (Cloud, Dumbo, Mushu, etc.), except those that include Friend cards;
 
''Magic Sleights'' - any sleight containing Magic cards, except those that contain Friend cards or the Summon subset;
 
''Attack Sleights'' - sleights that are gained through leveling up, and require certain value ranges be met.
 
Simplified, the pattern looks like:
 
Friend > Summon > Magic > Attack
 
Admittedly, these criteria lead to some inconsistencies, as a few sleights have multiple card combinations. Those sleights could be listed in multiple sections.
-[[User:Otenko|Otenko]] 07:02, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:I really don't know what to do. In the game, there are 3 types of sleights. Attack, Magic and I guess the Mickey Emblem stands for Friend, but in the Magic Section for example, there is a sleight called "Terror" which combines Jack (A friend Card) + Summon Card + Summon card. There really is no telling which ones are Friend or Magic sleights without playing the game. -[[User:Azul81677|Azul]] 00:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
::Re:CoM has a clear distinction in that for its sleights. I'll redo the list with it's descriptions.
::ALSO! Since none of the new sleights in CoM use new cards, we could represent all sleights with the CoM sprites. Can we do that, please?
::Also, I'm thinking of creating a bumper template for CoM sprites so that you can just type <nowiki>{{com|card name}}</nowiki> to get the picture, instead of having to search for it. I will also be uploading the CoM versions of the cards later.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 21:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


== Hundred Acre Wood ==
== Hundred Acre Wood ==
*Honey Storm: Honey + Wind OR Wind + Honey
*Honey Storm: Honey + Wind OR Wind + Honey
*Honey Pot: Honey + Honey
*Honey Pot: Honey + Honey
Does anyone have any idea how we can get official descriptions for these?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:10, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


==Movement==
==Movement==
*High Jump
How should we organize this, considering that they don't use cards and don't have an official name?
*Glide
 
*Super Glide
*High Jump: Reach higher places with an aerial flip.
*Glide: Fly through the air by jumping then holding {{button|c}}.
*Super Glide:  Fly through the air with velocity by holding {{button|c}}.


== Riku's sleights ==
== Riku's sleights ==
Please help!


Impulse:
Impulse:
*Most Heartless
*Most Heartless
*Guard Armor
*Guard Armor


Maelstrom:
Maelstrom:
*Larger Heartless
*Larger Heartless: specify
*Trickmaster
*Trickmaster


Barrage:
Barrage:
*Darkside
*Hades
*Hades
*Lexaeus
*Lexaeus
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*Ursula?
*Ursula?
*Oogie Boogie?
*Oogie Boogie?
*Darkside?


== Re: changes ==
== Re: changes ==
[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Sleight&diff=67338&oldid=66812 Here]
{{KrytenKoro|What do you guys want me to do for where the sleight descriptions differ between CoM and Re:CoM? Where the Re:CoM isn't just an add-on to the CoM description, I've been using the Re:CoM description, but especially in the friend sleights there seems to be more outright changes, like Splash Lv3 and Spiral Wave.}}
== Honey Pot ==
I have searched all the Japanese walkthrough videos I can find, as well as the internet, and I can't find the japanese name for "Honey Pot". Does anyone have the Japanese version of the game, and could they post the katakana?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 22:49, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
:I have the Japanese version, but my PS2 is locked and I won't be able to get it until after May 13th... >_< {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 03:17, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
==New sleight images ? Should I throw them in ?==
{{TNE|time=03:15, April 7, 2010 (UTC)|text=Same case as for Ragnarok (I went scouting on KHDestiny), and I found images for Freeze, Raging Storm, Stardust Blitz, Lethal Frame and Wild Crush. Should I throw at least one in ?}}
{{KrytenKoro|If we could replace the current image with a short animated gif of a simple Sleight being assembled and performed, that would be ideal.}}
{{TNE|time=08:00, April 7, 2010 (UTC)|sadtext=Gah... They're JPEGs, and the sleight is already assembled at the bottom and the ability is being performed.
Unless I could perhaps scout YT tonight, grab a few print screens, and make a GIF. (First, let me get around making a GIF...)}}
== CoM vs Re:CoM ==
When descriptions of the sleights (or any information, really) don't match in CoM and Re:CoM, should both descriptions be added in so people can differentiate between the two or are we using Re:CoM's information instead?
[[User:Notherland|Notherland]] 23:15, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
:The Re:CoM versions usually only have very slight differences in wording to make them more clear, so we use them. If the attack is actually different, then we use both versions. I think one of them is already like that.[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 23:50, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
== Sleight name links ==


{{KrytenKoro|What do you guys want me to do for where the sleight descriptions differ between CoM and Re:CoM? Where the Re:CoM isn't just an add-on to the CoM description, I've been using the Re:CoM description, but especially in the friend sleights there seems to be more outright changes, like Splash Lv3 and Spiral Wave.}}
I noticed that in the giant table, all of the sleights have linked names.  However, every single one links back to this page.  Should this be removed?  {{The Inexistentsig}} 21:07, 16 June 2011 (EDT)
:No, they should have their own pages.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 00:27, 20 June 2011 (EDT)
 
== Aladdin card friend sleights ==
 
I noticed that while their pronouncion is written as "Sutōmu Rīpā Lv2" and "Sutōmu Rīpā Lv3", the katakana actually says "Rībā" instead of "Rīpā".--[[Special:Contributions/77.254.82.222|77.254.82.222]] 11:54, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 
:OK, well in that case, perhaps the Japanese name should be "Storm Reaver", or something like that. Opinions?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 20:39, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 
::Anyway, have you somewhere scans or something where the name is visible? I found it [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P9cFTR4mE8 here],time 02:55, but I can't see wheter it's actually パ or バ.--[[Special:Contributions/77.254.82.222|77.254.82.222]] 21:04, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
It is correct on the Sandstorm page. {{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 21:26, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 
== Very useful comparison video ==
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0YWQWBx5s8
 
Shows all boss and player sleights, directly comparing them to CoM versions if they appear in both games. Incredibly useful.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 19:35, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:35, 5 March 2016

Archive
Archives

Hundred Acre Wood[edit]

  • Honey Storm: Honey + Wind OR Wind + Honey
  • Honey Pot: Honey + Honey

Does anyone have any idea how we can get official descriptions for these?Glorious CHAOS! 03:10, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Movement[edit]

How should we organize this, considering that they don't use cards and don't have an official name?

  • High Jump: Reach higher places with an aerial flip.
  • Glide: Fly through the air by jumping then holding Circle.
  • Super Glide: Fly through the air with velocity by holding Circle.

Riku's sleights[edit]

Please help!

Impulse:

  • Most Heartless
  • Guard Armor

Maelstrom:

  • Larger Heartless: specify
  • Trickmaster

Barrage:

  • Darkside
  • Hades
  • Lexaeus
  • Ansem
  • Zexion

Does anyone know which Duel's these activate:

  • Iago?
  • Vexen?
  • Parasite Cage?
  • Hook?
  • Riku Replica - Maelstrom for all but Twilight Town, at least
  • Ursula?
  • Oogie Boogie?

Re: changes[edit]

Here

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KrytenKoro - "That's when we bumped into Hannity. Sean Hannity. See the thing about this dude is, at first he's fair, right? And you're like "Wow!" But then BOOM. The dude's balanced, too. And you're like, HOLY SHIT."
TALK -
What do you guys want me to do for where the sleight descriptions differ between CoM and Re:CoM? Where the Re:CoM isn't just an add-on to the CoM description, I've been using the Re:CoM description, but especially in the friend sleights there seems to be more outright changes, like Splash Lv3 and Spiral Wave.

Honey Pot[edit]

I have searched all the Japanese walkthrough videos I can find, as well as the internet, and I can't find the japanese name for "Honey Pot". Does anyone have the Japanese version of the game, and could they post the katakana?Glorious CHAOS! 22:49, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

I have the Japanese version, but my PS2 is locked and I won't be able to get it until after May 13th... >_< TROISNYX Symbol - Bell.png AMDG 03:17, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

New sleight images ? Should I throw them in ?[edit]

Symbol Character - Mickey.png
FA icon.png Same case as for Ragnarok (I went scouting on KHDestiny), and I found images for Freeze, Raging Storm, Stardust Blitz, Lethal Frame and Wild Crush. Should I throw at least one in ?

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 03:15, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
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KrytenKoro - "That's when we bumped into Hannity. Sean Hannity. See the thing about this dude is, at first he's fair, right? And you're like "Wow!" But then BOOM. The dude's balanced, too. And you're like, HOLY SHIT."
TALK -
If we could replace the current image with a short animated gif of a simple Sleight being assembled and performed, that would be ideal.
Symbol Character - Roxas.png
FA icon.png Gah... They're JPEGs, and the sleight is already assembled at the bottom and the ability is being performed.

Unless I could perhaps scout YT tonight, grab a few print screens, and make a GIF. (First, let me get around making a GIF...)

Why did the Keyblade choose me? I have to know. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 08:00, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

CoM vs Re:CoM[edit]

When descriptions of the sleights (or any information, really) don't match in CoM and Re:CoM, should both descriptions be added in so people can differentiate between the two or are we using Re:CoM's information instead?

Notherland 23:15, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

The Re:CoM versions usually only have very slight differences in wording to make them more clear, so we use them. If the attack is actually different, then we use both versions. I think one of them is already like that.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 23:50, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Sleight name links[edit]

I noticed that in the giant table, all of the sleights have linked names. However, every single one links back to this page. Should this be removed? KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 21:07, 16 June 2011 (EDT)

No, they should have their own pages."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 00:27, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

Aladdin card friend sleights[edit]

I noticed that while their pronouncion is written as "Sutōmu Rīpā Lv2" and "Sutōmu Rīpā Lv3", the katakana actually says "Rībā" instead of "Rīpā".--77.254.82.222 11:54, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

OK, well in that case, perhaps the Japanese name should be "Storm Reaver", or something like that. Opinions? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 20:39, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Anyway, have you somewhere scans or something where the name is visible? I found it here,time 02:55, but I can't see wheter it's actually パ or バ.--77.254.82.222 21:04, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

It is correct on the Sandstorm page. ShardofTruth 21:26, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Very useful comparison video[edit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0YWQWBx5s8

Shows all boss and player sleights, directly comparing them to CoM versions if they appear in both games. Incredibly useful."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:35, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

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