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:::But like I said, Squall is a ''former'' name. A name he does not identify with anymore. A name which he doesn't want other people to use, so it's only brought up in like one conversation. I know the journal claims "Squall Leonhart" is his "real" name (not sure if it's a mistranslation). The journal also says he had a name change, implying Leon is not simply an alias he prefers. Anyway, the journals seem self-contradictory so whatever. The coded journal does say "he abandoned his real name" however. If someone does that, then to me, it'd make sense to use their new name. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 08:56, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
:::But like I said, Squall is a ''former'' name. A name he does not identify with anymore. A name which he doesn't want other people to use, so it's only brought up in like one conversation. I know the journal claims "Squall Leonhart" is his "real" name (not sure if it's a mistranslation). The journal also says he had a name change, implying Leon is not simply an alias he prefers. Anyway, the journals seem self-contradictory so whatever. The coded journal does say "he abandoned his real name" however. If someone does that, then to me, it'd make sense to use their new name. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 08:56, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::::The journals have consistently used the term "real name" -- not "birth name" or anything that would imply that calling him Squall is deadnaming him. They treat Leon as a nickname or an alias.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:01, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::::The journals have consistently used the term "real name" -- not "birth name" or anything that would imply that calling him Squall is deadnaming him. They treat Leon as a nickname or an alias.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:01, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
===YOUR recent Edits Kryten===
KrytenKoro, Stop showing your bias and chasticizing on anything that is written down. On top of that It makes no sense to just omit Randall's being surprised attack Sulley before returning to the door he was banished from cause simply putting this: "However, his happiness is short-lived and he is infuriated when the Unversed is destroyed. He is then restrained by Sulley when he surprises attack him. Defeated, he barely protests as Mike and Sulley force him to go back through his repaired door, and is clubbed once again by the humans on the other side." just feels slapped cause it just feels contrived to just have this sentence and continue arguing any sentence "it's regurgitated" ever time . On top of that putting in "{{?}}" here just feels forced it is literally him disguising himself as Boo's door why does that thing need to be here at all?
Also on the last line: "''Waternoose is not a KH character and doesn't need to be covered here'''"- I don't know why in the heck are you going so shrewd over this. Okay Yes he's not a KH character but honestly what you literally said also contradicts and "retcons" some of the other character article pages like [[Stitch]] and more recently [[Little Chef]] and [[Wreck-It Ralph]] pages also had mentions characters who haven't appeared in the KH series on the origins section (e.g. Lilo for Stitch, Linguini for Little Chef, Vanellope for Wreck-It Ralph).--[[Special:Contributions/76.183.116.30|76.183.116.30]] 23:50, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

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Rough draft

Same as the others. Also, avoid scarequotes used needlessly -- if the exact words used are not a critical part of understanding the scene, then just summarize them."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:36, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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Managing to escape "being turned into a wallet", Randall seethed with revenge, drawing the attention of [[Vanitas]] of [[Real Organization XIII|the Organization]]. After explaining about how his world ran on the screams of children, Randall was offered assistance by Vanitas to get back for revenge against the duo who banished him; the dark being repaired the door by merging it with a dark corridor. They arrived at Monster's Inc., where Randall saw that the company had changed its business plan to instead harvest the laughter of children. Vanitas assured him that laughter (while 10xs more powerful than scream) was even harder to sustain and that [[Monstropolis]] would suffer another energy crisis. However, negative emotions could be just as powerful and lingered longer; if they managed to break the children's hearts over something truly precious to them, they would be able to harvest a great bounty of energy. To this end, Randall was given command of the [[Heartless]] and [[Unversed]], using them to cause chaos in the factory, while Vanitas sent more Unversed through doorways to scare children.

Keeping camouflaged, Randall saw that [[Sulley]] and [[Mike Wazowski|Mike]] had [[Boo]] with them again, along with [[Sora]], [[Donald]] and [[Goofy]]. To keep them occupied while Vantias harvested negative emotions with the Unversed, Randall sent Boo's door back to the Door Vault to force the heroes to chase after it. In a brilliant plan to send them further away from the Laugh Floor, Randall clung to a white door and camouflaged himself to look like the flower pattern on Boo's door; this allowed him to send them straight to the other side of the factory, where he revealed his plan and taunted them about the "upgrades" he made to the factory, which included lasers on the conveyor belts. Watching them fight off the Heartless and Unversed, Randall confronted them right outside the Tank Yard, where he planned on unleashing the most powerful Unversed at his disposal - the [[Lump of Horror]]; however, it did not wake upon his command. Randall promptly left in a huff to find Vantias to wake it. Momments after the group left, Vanitas did arrive and brought the Unversed to life, much to Randall's delight.

They took the Lump of Horror to the Door Vault to wait for the group, where Randall revealed that he would take over the company thanks to the Unversed's help. Watching from a safe distance above, Randall woke the Lump of Horror and watched it attempted eliminating his enemies. However, the Unversed was destroyed. Without any more minions, Randall was forced back through the door he came through again. As his poor luck would have it, the owners of the house he entered mistook him for an alligator again and hit him with a shovel. To ensure Randall could never get back, Sora sealed the door with the [[Keyblade]].

Vanitas would later mention Randall as a pawn consumed by his desire for revenge.
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Move?

Do we need to move this to "Randall Boggs?" We use characters' full names in our article titles, regardless of whether or not they have been used in Kingdom Hearts (I never liked this, to be honest). For consistency's sake, should such a move be done? - Challenge Sigil KHD.pngEternal Nothingness XIIIChallenge Sigil KHD.png 05:34, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

I thought it was the opposite and we only use names in KH media. If "Boggs" was dropped in the game or a journal entry, then it would be fair game, but it's not so simply "Randall" makes sense. And since we're on this topic, I think "Squall Leonhart" should be moved to "Leon" since 99% of the time, he's called Leon and he actively doesn't like being called Squall, meaning it's his former name, not his current one. Soroxas (talk) 05:53, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
The policy is to use the full name if it appears in the game. Randall is never called Boggs in the game, so we don't call him that. Leon, however, is called Squall both in the journal and by Yuffie, so we call him that. TheSilentHero 08:16, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
But like I said, Squall is a former name. A name he does not identify with anymore. A name which he doesn't want other people to use, so it's only brought up in like one conversation. I know the journal claims "Squall Leonhart" is his "real" name (not sure if it's a mistranslation). The journal also says he had a name change, implying Leon is not simply an alias he prefers. Anyway, the journals seem self-contradictory so whatever. The coded journal does say "he abandoned his real name" however. If someone does that, then to me, it'd make sense to use their new name. Soroxas (talk) 08:56, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
The journals have consistently used the term "real name" -- not "birth name" or anything that would imply that calling him Squall is deadnaming him. They treat Leon as a nickname or an alias."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:01, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

YOUR recent Edits Kryten

KrytenKoro, Stop showing your bias and chasticizing on anything that is written down. On top of that It makes no sense to just omit Randall's being surprised attack Sulley before returning to the door he was banished from cause simply putting this: "However, his happiness is short-lived and he is infuriated when the Unversed is destroyed. He is then restrained by Sulley when he surprises attack him. Defeated, he barely protests as Mike and Sulley force him to go back through his repaired door, and is clubbed once again by the humans on the other side." just feels slapped cause it just feels contrived to just have this sentence and continue arguing any sentence "it's regurgitated" ever time . On top of that putting in "[?]" here just feels forced it is literally him disguising himself as Boo's door why does that thing need to be here at all?

Also on the last line: "Waternoose is not a KH character and doesn't need to be covered here'"- I don't know why in the heck are you going so shrewd over this. Okay Yes he's not a KH character but honestly what you literally said also contradicts and "retcons" some of the other character article pages like Stitch and more recently Little Chef and Wreck-It Ralph pages also had mentions characters who haven't appeared in the KH series on the origins section (e.g. Lilo for Stitch, Linguini for Little Chef, Vanellope for Wreck-It Ralph).--76.183.116.30 23:50, 15 March 2019 (UTC)