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I went to KH13.com and one of the information said it like this: - Lea (Axel) and Sia (Saix) appear as children. They are speaking with Ven (in what looks like Radiant Garden?) They look to be about the same age. Axel looks similar to Hayner and is wearing a scarf-like thing. Saix is wearing clothes that have a moon symbol on them. Lea: “It’s because we’re friends. Got it memorized?” thats probably the name of Saix's orginal self. --Cococrash11 18:16, December 19, 2009 (UTC)Cococrash11

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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

But it's not confirmed.
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JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000.

You're all morons.JFHavoc 18:19, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Talk_Bubble_Legend_zpsa9c4698c.png You can't just go around to every article in the wiki changing "Saix's Complete Being" to "Sia" because you think that might be his name.
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Dornob25 - Who knows what that one is thinking.
TALK - You will know how weak you are! — 18:20, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
Heh, even as children, Axel was saying his catchphrase.

But yeah, it isn't comfirmed yet. Like Maggosh said.

Well what do you guys usulllay do when you don't know the offical name of something? --Cococrash11 18:23, December 19, 2009 (UTC)Cococrash11

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JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000.

You're all morons.JFHavoc 18:24, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Talk_Bubble_Legend_zpsa9c4698c.png Well we know it's Saix's Complete Being. So that sounds like a fitting title to me.
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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

We had Vanitas' page named "Master Xehanort's Apprentice" a while back. That was enough for us.
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Dornob25 - Who knows what that one is thinking.
TALK - You will know how weak you are! — 18:26, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
Isa may be the name for release, due to it meaning Moon in Sanskrit.
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JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000.

You're all morons.JFHavoc 18:27, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Talk_Bubble_Legend_zpsa9c4698c.png I think it'll be Isa too, but since we don't know we can't use that as the name yet.

Are you going to move Sia to Saix's Complete Being? I already search the name and you guys haven't even made a article called Saix's Complete Being --Cococrash11 18:45, December 19, 2009 (UTC)Coccorash11

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JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000.

You're all morons.JFHavoc 18:46, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Talk_Bubble_Legend_zpsa9c4698c.png It hasn't been moved yet.


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Venkix - Having no heart, no emotions. It's Better this way.
TALK - Open your heart. -
I think Doornob is right about saix's original name, but we'll know for sure once the game comes out.

Fine do whatever you think is right but what if Sia is his real name what will you guys do? --Cococrash11 22:36, December 19, 2009 (UTC)Cococrash11


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Then we'll rename it. But ONLY then. For now it has to be renamed Saïx's Complete Being.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:56, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
I wish folks could wait until we get a confirmation on this...a screenshot or a release article, or something similar? I know it seems a little over cautious, but I really don't think we should spread what may be an incorrect rumor than try to get the "scoop" on a new character.

I have gone ahead and moved "Sia" here.

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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Thank you, Miss Kate. *kisses hand*

You know, what really surprises me is the fact that although Lea and Saïx's Complete Being are about the same age as Ven in BBS, in KHII, only about 11 years later, they look a lot older. I mean Axel, his look I understand. But Saïx loks more like he's 40, or more. 22:53, 19, December, 2009 User:Veroso


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TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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IenzoTheApprentice - I made some fish, please take it in place of a business card.
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Actually, it has been approved. Lissar, khinsider.com's official translator has reported that on the KH Mobile Intro mvie for Avatar Kingdom, there is an Avatar with the name SIA in a Saix costume. Here is the original post.

"And here is an interesting bit of info: apparently in the KHMobile intro movie for Avatar Kingdom there is an avatar wearing a Saix costume that is named "SIA". Perhaps this shows his human name?"

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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

KHMobile ≠ BbS.
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 19:55, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png "This article is about a game or album that has yet to be released. As such, some of the information might be inaccurate or likely to change. Perhaps you should refrain from putting rumors and speculation on this article."

We have the Unreleased template for a reason. If we don't have any official confirmation, then we don't put up what we assume or conclude based on other information. Period. It doesn't matter if KHMobile offers the name "Sia", because this is still just speculation. Did that trailer specifically state "this is Saïx's complete being, named Sia?" No. Plus, in Saïx's name, you should notice that the third letter of his name is an /i/ with a diaeresis. "Sia" is not spelled with a diaeresis, and "Sia" is supposedly the official translated information. Stop arguing about the official name of Saïx's complete being; if this is just going to turn into speculation, then please go to the Twilight Town Library to make your predictions.


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Venkix - Having no heart, no emotions. It's Better this way.
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Its best not to make any assumptions. I mean c'mon, we'll know his true name hopefully once the game comes out. Simple as that. Because if his name is not SIA then what? All this pointless talking will be worth nothing.
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KrytenKoro - "Punch your lights out, hit the pavement. That's what I call entertainment. Causin' problems makes you famous - all the violence makes a statement."
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I'm not sure exactly which Mobile movie you're talking about, but if it's anything like the BBS Mirage Arena snapshots, then we certainly can't use it as evidence, or we would have to call Terra, Aqua, and Ventus, "King", "Dom", and "Hearts". Especially because it's a multiplayer game, the names chosen for your character (Even in official videos and snapshots) have no weight to them.

However, the Japanese name does not have the diaeresis, so it is possible that his Japanese name is Sia. In that case, the English name would have the diaeresis, though. Or, it could just be a representation of the a and i being pronounced as separate syllables in Japanese, converse to how SAix's name would be pronounced in English.

Somebody

I'm sorry for the incomin' tangent, but are we really gonna rename it 'Somebody'? Kaihedgie 08:00, December 21, 2009 (UTC)


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Venkix - Having no heart, no emotions. It's Better this way.
TALK - Open your heart. -
So like, I was on KH-VIDS.NET and I saw FAN ART of what axel and saix look like. Just wanted to show you guys. If there is any point to this....File:File.jpeg


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ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person
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Vanitas Sprite KHBBS.pngThis is fanart based on the description of Lea and Saïx's Whole Being provided by KHInsider.com


Kirk Thornton

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NeutraVega Talk to me, you triple zero!. — "3, 22⁄7, 333⁄106, 355⁄113, 103993/33102...'."

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Look, I know it's pretty much 100% that he's doing....whatever Saix's original name is. But the fact is, the source himself never specified who or what he's doing, hence anything we put here, no matter how likely or true, still falls as speculation. Anyone here remember the Snow drama on the FF wiki? It's a given that he's voiced by Troy Baker...even Baker himself stated that he's "working on FFXIII", but because he never specified...the poor bastard who edited it was destroyed. So...even though we know....we know, there's nothing official that confirms the actual role.
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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!

Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!!HeartOfOblivion 05:42, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png [1] Here is the facebook comment where he confirms it. He cannot tell the name because he signed a contract but he clearly states he is voicing the role.
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NeutraVega Talk to me, you triple zero!. — "3, 22⁄7, 333⁄106, 355⁄113, 103993/33102...'."

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No, he doesn't. He states he's working on it, but does not specify the role.
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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!

Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 05:45, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png So the sentence "I am playing the role in the upcoming game." means nothing at all, right?
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 06:04, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png You also can see here and here for NeutraVega and I's argument on the subject. Rather than repeat all my points against NeutraVega's view, I'll just provide links.
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HarpieSiren - Here's one for all of us
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Jessie McCartney never specified the role he was playing on his Twitter post, yet we still say he's confirmed as Ven on the relevant articles.


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Venkix - Having no heart, no emotions. It's Better this way.
TALK - Open your heart. -
You have a point harpie. Jessey McCartney never said what role he was playing either. But its IMPLIED. Think about it, why would kirk thorton play Ven or aqua? or even Lea? It's pretty much obvious. Jessey McCartney= Roxas and Ven, Quinton Flynn= Axel/lea, Kirk thorton = Saix and Saix complete being. why would they play any other characters?


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HarpieSiren - Here's one for all of us
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True. And I don't doubt that he'll be playing Ven. But it's a bit like the Dissidia issue over at the FFWiki. It was obvious to anyone that had ears that Cloud was being voiced by Steve Burton again in that game due to his fairly distinct sounding voice. Yet we couldn't say it until we got an official confirmation that it was in fact Burton. Likewise, it's obvious that McCartney is voicing Ven, but that little detail hasn't technically been confirmed yet, so it technically falls under speculation. So what should we do about it?


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Venkix - Having no heart, no emotions. It's Better this way.
TALK - Open your heart. -
Well true. Then only thing to do is to edit out the voice acting that hasn't been confirmed. that goes for Saix and ven. Since technically it's never been confirmed. We can only be sure of Lea.
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NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you...
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Hold on a minute. Look at the message again. He said he was playing the role, not A role, when he answer Maggosh-kun. If he was working on it, but didn't know who he was voicing, shouldn't it say "a role" instead of "the role"? This proves it. Kikr Thornton is voicing Isa.

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Thomaskh2 Discussion — Our connected hearts are my power!

Hearts that are scared will show you illusions.

Vsymbol1.png We could write in trivia that the image is a FanArt drawn by people who have seen the trailer and that a better image will follow. No ?
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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

NO. We have a strict no fanart/fanfiction policy here. Unless it was officially released, we don't put it up.
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Thomaskh2 Discussion — Our connected hearts are my power!

Hearts that are scared will show you illusions.

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True Name from Famitsu (DO NOT EDIT YET)

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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Sol's post on KHInsider reveals his true name to be Isa from the recent Famitsu. However, I don't think anything should be edited yet until we have the scans and are absolutely sure.


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Venkix - Having no heart, no emotions. It's Better this way.
TALK - Open your heart. -
I always thought his name was Isa anyway. Doesn't Isa mean moon in another language?

Yes.--NinjaSheik 20:45, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

And it's Sanskrit for "Lord" or "Master".

Someone's having a war with us. Someone please make him stop.--NinjaSheik 20:48, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


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Venkix - Having no heart, no emotions. It's Better this way.
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Who's having a war with us? Who's HIM?

Xemwath.--NinjaSheik 20:51, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

I have sent him a message.


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Venkix - Having no heart, no emotions. It's Better this way.
TALK - Open your heart. -
Wow! I didn't know it was that serious!

You said that once before. Now, the name is decided for now. If it's wrong, we can change it. And when you put the "I" make sure they have the dots above it. Good thing I know where to get that kind of "I".--NinjaSheik 20:59, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


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Xemwath - You are my living legacy.
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Thanks Charmed-Jay. It's sad some people on this wiki wanna act like smart bitches and act like they know everything when clearly, they don't.

EXUCSE ME!?! WATCH YOUR MOUTH!--NinjaSheik 20:59, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Please, Xemwath, don't start with me, I just had an incident with NeutraVega and I don't want history to repeat itself...

Regardless, I am unsure about adding the diaeresis to the I. Sol on KHInsider said: "The diaeresis won't be in there since it has no need. The only reason they put it in Saïx's name is to make it sound like "Say-ax" instead of "Sykes"."

We'll wait until scans come out. See how they spell it, deal?--NinjaSheik 21:03, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Deal.

Good. Any news from Dilan's voice actor?--NinjaSheik 21:07, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

I have reverted the move, as KHInsider itself says to take it with a grain of salt. There is no reason to move this before getting an actual scan.
As for the diaeresis, it would not appear in the Japanese name, and there's no need for it to appear in the English.Glorious CHAOS! 21:15, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Okay.--NinjaSheik 21:17, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


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Shouldn't we wait just a tad bit before renaming the entire article after what we THINK Saix's Somebody's name is? (Say that 3 times real fast). I'm just sayin, we've all been wrong about one of these sort of things before, I just think it'd be more sensible to just wait, the game is practically about to come out, then we can confirm everything. Also, I'd like to point out that every Organization member we've learned of their Somebodies so far have had their exact letters make up their names, and since the I in Saix's name has the dots, and the I in Isa does not, they're two different letters, therefore, the I in Isa must obviously have the two dots to make both their names equivalent.


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

...Didn't I say not to edit anything until we have the scans, yet someone did anyway? :/
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Xemwath - You are my living legacy.
TALK - SOLDIER 1st Class Zack!
FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME, Kirk Thornton IS NOT CONFIRMED TO DO ISA'S VOICE.

YES HE IS!! SOMEONE PLEASE SHOW HIM PROOF!--NinjaSheik 21:39, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Gladly.

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Xemwath, you're about to be blocked for misconduct. Act like an adult.
The grammar Thornton uses is clearly phrased to answer the question without violating his non-disclosure. He's as confirmed as he needs to be until the game comes out.
The dots will not be in the original name. They are not present in the Japanese, and are not needed in the English.Glorious CHAOS! 21:52, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

His name is Isa, then?

I F*CKING KNEW IT! THANK GOD!

--oddishh 21:54, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


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Xemwath - You are my living legacy.
TALK - SOLDIER 1st Class Zack!
Where did he say, "Yes, I'm going to do Isa's voice in the upcoming Kingdom Hearts game. NO WHERE! How do we know this is his official facebook profile? For all we know, he can be doing Master Xehanort's voice.


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

For the last time, he didn't specify with a name because of the non-disclosure agreement.


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Xemwath - You are my living legacy.
TALK - SOLDIER 1st Class Zack!
And yet, you all are jumping into conclusions and have him as the voice of young Isa?

But when he answered you, Maggosh-kun, he said he was playing the role, not a role. If he was working on it, but didn't know who he was voicing, shouldn't it say "a role" instead of "the role"? This proves it. Kirk Thornton is voicing Isa.--NinjaSheik 21:59, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

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KrytenKoro - "Hey, I want to settle down. And as soon as I find the right small group of girls, the seven or eight women who are right for me, my wandering days are over, buddy."
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How about this: I personally dislike abusing sources. If the source will get in trouble for revealing something, I don't like acting like, well, some journalist who only cares about the story. Why don't we remove the VA until we get something that isn't "I'm totally going to get in trouble for this."

It's not like they told us anything from the plot. They just told us that who they're voicing for. That's all. It's not a crime.--NinjaSheik 22:27, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


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Veroso - The shadows are coming!
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You know, Isa is not only a word in Sanskrit, it is also the word used in the Qur'an for Jesus.