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Who knows? Maybe we'll learn one day who is the voice, or maybe not. | Who knows? Maybe we'll learn one day who is the voice, or maybe not. | ||
:WE NEED TO CONFIRM THIS GUYS.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:35, January 13, 2011 (UTC) | |||
== World or Place == | == World or Place == | ||
I was wondering maybe the Awakening is a type of world. Cococrash11 | I was wondering maybe the Awakening is a type of world. Cococrash11 | ||
:I'd probably call it another ''dimension''...... becasue the Awakening doesn't have a link to the World Map, let alone Twilight Town or TWTNW. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#FF1493">je t'♥</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF">mélancolie !</font>]]'''</sub> 12:17, November 25, 2009 (UTC) | :I'd probably call it another ''dimension''...... becasue the Awakening doesn't have a link to the World Map, let alone Twilight Town or TWTNW. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#FF1493">je t'♥</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF">mélancolie !</font>]]'''</sub> 12:17, November 25, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Maybe it should be put in both place and world. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 07:59, December 13, 2009 (UTC)Cococrash11 | Maybe it should be put in both place and world. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 07:59, December 13, 2009 (UTC)Cococrash11 | ||
I've found it interesting that, in the journal entry for Ven's final battle with Vanitas, it says it took place inside Ven's "own heart" [[Special:Contributions/24.224.114.168|24.224.114.168]] 04:07, 1 August 2017 (UTC) | |||
:It's literally a dive to the player character's heart, yes.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 00:30, 19 September 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Wait, who's who? == | == Wait, who's who? == | ||
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{{LA|Varmor=Header says it all.}} | {{LA|Varmor=Header says it all.}} | ||
[[File:Ventus's Piller.png|200px]] | <!--[[File:Ventus's Piller.png|200px]]--> | ||
I think you can.--Zach 20:08, January 9, 2010 (UTC) | I think you can.--Zach 20:08, January 9, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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{{LA|Varmor=I found this. I posted it, but it was taken down. Is this no good?}} | {{LA|Varmor=I found this. I posted it, but it was taken down. Is this no good?}} | ||
[[File:Sora'sAwakening.png|250px]] | <!--[[File:Sora'sAwakening.png|250px]]--> | ||
{{Xabryn|time=[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 00:10, January 18, 2010 (UTC)|text=it seem good to me. The trivia say that the reason of Sora's eyes aare closeds is cuz of he in asleep, that don't make sense since every character's eye is closed in the awakening}} | {{Xabryn|time=[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 00:10, January 18, 2010 (UTC)|text=it seem good to me. The trivia say that the reason of Sora's eyes aare closeds is cuz of he in asleep, that don't make sense since every character's eye is closed in the awakening}} | ||
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== Ventus's Awakening == | == Ventus's Awakening == | ||
[[File:Ventus' | <!--[[File:Ventus's Piller.png|thumb|210px|Ventus's Awakening]]--> | ||
I saw the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZcjR96ME-E#movie_player in 9:53 that Ventus's new pillar had a Keyblade on his hand and the lucky charm picture. So is there a picture of it? Also it seems Ventus's home world is Keyblade Graveyard. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 01:22, January 23, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11 | I saw the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZcjR96ME-E#movie_player in 9:53 that Ventus's new pillar had a Keyblade on his hand and the lucky charm picture. So is there a picture of it? Also it seems Ventus's home world is Keyblade Graveyard. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 01:22, January 23, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11 | ||
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== Destiny Island's Awakening == | == Destiny Island's Awakening == | ||
[[ | [[File:Station Sora KHBBS.png|x100px|Destiny Islands's Station.]] | ||
Everyone said its Sora's Awakening. The one in KHII is more likey Sora's true awakening. This awakeing is more likely Destiny Island's heart. It had the Paopu fruit, mushroom, raft, and etc. The back ground even had the island, ocean, and tropical sea. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 03:22, February 27, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11 | Everyone said its Sora's Awakening. The one in KHII is more likey Sora's true awakening. This awakeing is more likely Destiny Island's heart. It had the Paopu fruit, mushroom, raft, and etc. The back ground even had the island, ocean, and tropical sea. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 03:22, February 27, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11 | ||
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{{Superdog1123|time=03:56, November 9, 2010 (UTC)|ventus=I noticed that Vanitas has been considered a "somebody" enemy on this page. Has it been decided that he's a Somebody or Unversed? If he's an unversed, then should that heading be changed?}} | {{Superdog1123|time=03:56, November 9, 2010 (UTC)|ventus=I noticed that Vanitas has been considered a "somebody" enemy on this page. Has it been decided that he's a Somebody or Unversed? If he's an unversed, then should that heading be changed?}} | ||
{{KrytenKoro|Well, an Unversed by definition is an emotion given form in a poor semblance of life, and Vanitas is a lovely little imbroglio of emotion'''s''' who can imitate life pretty well. I'd say that if he's not a complete persona, then he's a sentient Pureblood Heartless.}} | {{KrytenKoro|Well, an Unversed by definition is an emotion given form in a poor semblance of life, and Vanitas is a lovely little imbroglio of emotion'''s''' who can imitate life pretty well. I'd say that if he's not a complete persona, then he's a sentient Pureblood Heartless.}} | ||
{{Superdog1123|time=03:56, November 9, 2010 (UTC)|ventus=Okay, I can live with that idea. If that's the case, should we put him under "Heartless" enemies? Or is he merely a purely dark Somebody, as we have? I feel like the distinction is small...}} | |||
== May wanna add this lil' trivia piece == | |||
It seems that, with the exception of Xion, each and everyone 'derivative' of Sora and Ven has had their Awakening seen onscreen. Hm....y'know, if this isn't exclusive to them, it woulda been interestin' to see Xehanort's Awakening. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 00:33, December 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||
Problem is, with the recent trivia purge, trivias have to have no exceptions. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 00:37, December 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Name issue == | |||
Hey I am just reading the piggyback official guide for Kh1 (UK) and it calls this place "Dive into the heart" as opposed to "Dive to the heart" throughout the book. Just wondering if this should be mentioned in trivia or something as it doesnt look like a simple typo? Also where does its current name actually come from seeing as its not mentioned in game anywhere? [[Special:Contributions/86.17.30.102|86.17.30.102]] 22:30, 12 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
:In the light of KH3D this may not be important because I think we have to decide if "Dive to the Heart" is a world name at all. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 23:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
== KH1 voice == | |||
It's Mickey. The ''Ultimania α'' has a section indicating such on page 087. See the translation [http://kh-info-block.tumblr.com/tagged/KH1NIA here]. [[User:Pink Agaricus|Pink Agaricus]] ([[User talk:Pink Agaricus|talk]]) 21:51, 29 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Woot! I win!{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:51, 29 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
::I never heard of a Nomura interview in the Ultimania Alpha, so this is more like one of the Ultimania's "uncovering secret boxes" I guess, is it? The linked Info Box interview section is indeed wrong, as the normal Ultimania actually starts with the second question (as seen [http://kh-ultimania.livejournal.com/ here]). --[[Special:Contributions/77.186.171.4|77.186.171.4]] 00:12, 30 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::It's not an interview. [http://i.imgur.com/8CCPtvN.jpg] [[User:Pink Agaricus|Pink Agaricus]] ([[User talk:Pink Agaricus|talk]]) 02:00, 30 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Stained Glass == | |||
While they're not any part of an actual "Dive to the Heart", the [http://www.khunchainedx.com/wiki/Stained_Glass stained glass medals] from Union χ do bear significance to the pillars. Should we at least have the stained glass medals in the gallery? {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 22:38, 3 September 2018 (UTC) | |||
:We have [[Memorial Stained Glass Clock]]. Perhaps we can just add the page as an additional link at the bottom of the Dive to the Heart page? {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 01:11, 4 September 2018 (UTC) | |||
::I agree with KSM. The Stained Glass medals are a reference to the clocks, which are designed as references to the DttH.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 12:57, 4 September 2018 (UTC) | |||
::Agreed.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:43, 4 September 2018 (UTC) | |||
== The Final World == | |||
KH3 SPOILERS AHEAD! | |||
So in The Final World, Chirithy says Sora has been there before in his sleep. Does that mean the Dive to the Heart is the Final World? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:14, 1 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
:The exact line is "You've wondered here more than once before on your visits to the Station of Awakening // The edges of sleep and death touch, and one can't help the occasional crossover." It certainly sounds like Dive to the Heart and The Final World are one and the same. Merge? - [[User:Joveus|Joveus]] ([[User talk:Joveus|talk]]) 20:35, 13 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
::"The edges of sleep and death touch, and one can't help the occasional crossover." This line, right here, screams "keep the pages separate," at least to me. They are separate "realms" that exist very close together on the same plane. I think of it like the Visible World, Valhalla, and the Unseen Realm from ''FFXIII''. Valhalla = Station of Awakening, a "middle-ground" between life (Realm of Light/Darkness/Sleep) and death (Final World). Or is it that Final World is the next step between life, sleep, and death? I remmeber reading it's a purgatory realm, but either way, "sleep" is a separate place. I guess the order would be Life (Realms) -> Sleep (Station) -> Purgatory (Final World) -> Death. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 23:52, 13 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
:::My understanding is that the crossover ''only'' includes the portions where Sora is on his way to the Dive to the Heart, and the surroundings look somewhat like the final world -- basically, the bits with birds and water. The Dive would still be its own thing.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:29, 14 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
== DDD == | |||
Shouldn't it be Data-Ansem, Data-Xion, and Data-Ventus, instead of Xion and Ansem?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:16, 20 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
:The people Riku talks to you mean? I don't think those are from Ansem's data, I think those are representations of the actual hearts within Sora, just in sort of a state of limbo where their interactions are limited. After all, they are the three who we know from KH3 have hearts inside Sora. Ansem should definitely be Data-Ansem though. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 17:44, 20 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
::I was under the belief that they were the locks on the data ''about'' the people they represent that Ansem had placed on the data he found.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:45, 20 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
:::See, that does kinda make sense, but I believe what Ansem says is that talking to them was the final step to waking Sora up. I don't think he references them in connection to the data, though he does say the data was what he found from while Sora was sleeping, so maybe they *are* connected that way? {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 17:58, 20 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Opening bit == | |||
So nearly everyone from past games appears in the opening as memories on mirror for Sora, so does that count as a "appearances" in KH3? Not a full appearances, per say. But should it be handle like on the [[Possessor#Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days|Possessor page for 358]]? {{User:UnknownChaser/Sig}} 05:33, 23 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
:If you want to take the time to go through and confirm each one, I'm fine with it.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 00:07, 24 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
==Power of Waking in KHIII== | |||
I added the images from Re:Mind of Aqua, Terra, Riku, and Roxas's Dive to the Hearts to the Kingdom Hearts III sections, but I was wondering about the Stations used when Sora retrieves the Hearts of the Guardians of Light, if there was anyone who had images of those (they were simply Stations that depicted the artwork of the World, shrouded in Darkness). On that note, I would like to ask about the Power of Waking as well, as it is stated within the article that Sora used the Power of Waking to access these stations, however in Re:Mind Chirithy specifies that Sora hadn't used the Power of Waking, which is meant to awaken a sleeping heart, but rather he'd traversed hearts and revived his friends through the alteration of time and fate (or something along those lines). Thus, I was just wondering if the verbiage in the KHIII section shouldn't be altered because of this. ([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 15:13, 26 January 2020 (UTC)) | |||
Watch the scene again. It wasn't that he wasn't using the power of waking, it was that he was '''mis'''using the power of waking. [[User:Draconai|Draconai]] ([[User talk:Draconai|talk]]) 01:51, 24 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
==Corona Station== | |||
In other news, for reasons that I suspect aren't gonna make sense to anyone else, I found myself paying unusual attention to those particular stations on my last playthrough, and discovered a discrepancy. Anyone care to inform me why the image of the Corona station here is (almost) completely different from the one in-game? [[User:Draconai|Draconai]] ([[User talk:Draconai|talk]]) 01:51, 24 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
== KH3D station image is wrong == | |||
There was at least one stained glass Dive to the Heart Station floor mural in Dream Drop Distance, and it didn't look quite like the one from KH2 that is shown just above the KH3D text section of this article, because the trees and waves and clouds in the background looked more like the ones in Sora's station from Birth by Sleep. If I had a copy of KHHD2.8 for the PC, I'd rip and post the station(s) myself, but I don't. Is it possible that someone who does could please rip and upload the station(s) here to fix that mistake? --[[User:Wikipirate|Wikipirate]] ([[User talk:Wikipirate|talk]]) 23:08, 18 July 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Roxas' Station == | |||
Does anyone have a render of Roxas' station in Re Mind, when it's still missing Xion? https://youtu.be/QwH4NUW9P0I?list=PL80kj0SJp-UoLHBgjD1DsFHmAWT8A7Y4b&t=5153 --[[User:Mikoto|Mikoto]] ([[User talk:Mikoto|talk]]) 02:19, 24 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
::Adding to this, we're also missing Riku's new Station of Awakening from Re Mind, where his hand with the cards has been changed, and the card symbols around the edge have been replaced with hearts: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhZc2CVWsAE1Hm7?format=jpg&name=large --[[File:Riku Sprite KHD.png]] [[User:Mikoto|mikoto]] 08:48, 16 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::All other ReMind stations besides Roxas's are not objects in the game, they are only part of the video sequences, so we can't get a texture for them. Roxas's station without Xion is there but I can't seem to apply (or even export) the glass effect to it, so it [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n_dnoPKPyEEVMzquhNMXwqNXZ215NEtm/view?usp=share_link looks very different from the official one]. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 19:19, 30 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::: Huh, weird. And having that version of Roxas' station is better than nothing. Do you have it with a transparent background? --[[File:Riku Sprite KHD.png]] [[User:Mikoto|mikoto]] 02:45, 6 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Roxas' Station in KH2 == | |||
Is it confirmed that Roxas enters his own station in II? I think I always thought it was Sora's, considering it's him on it and appears in games afterwards for him. Roxas has a different one in Re:Mind as well. --[[File:Riku Sprite KHD.png]] [[User:Mikoto|mikoto]] 05:51, 25 April 2024 (UTC) | |||