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Gravity Drop and Quake. Should we say their types are Gravity and Earth, or Normal? Since they certainly look like using Gravity and Earth element, but whether those elements exist in the game or not is still debatable. Oh, and Judgement Triad and Eruption and Shock Fall, they might use Light element as well. {{User:17master/Sign}} 07:22, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
Gravity Drop and Quake. Should we say their types are Gravity and Earth, or Normal? Since they certainly look like using Gravity and Earth element, but whether those elements exist in the game or not is still debatable. Oh, and Judgement Triad and Eruption and Shock Fall, they might use Light element as well. {{User:17master/Sign}} 07:22, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
:We can only confirm fire (ignite), blizzard (freeze), thunder (jolt), aero (air-toss), physical, and nil so far. (Actually, not too sure about nil - are there any non-magic techs that go through a Large Body?). When someone gets a hold of the Ultimania, we can check.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 09:47, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
:We can only confirm fire (ignite), blizzard (freeze), thunder (jolt), aero (air-toss), physical, and nil so far. (Actually, not too sure about nil - are there any non-magic techs that go through a Large Body?). When someone gets a hold of the Ultimania, we can check.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 09:47, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
::Ugh apparently not, I tried using all Ultimate and Advanced level attack commands and none of the got through it. I don't know if Zantetsuken with Zantetsu Prime Overclock Ability can pierce through it though. {{User:17master/Sign}} 10:39, 29 March 2011 (EDT)

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Melvert

Given that this game uses "Convert", rather than "Meld", we need to discuss how to label the sections on ability pages that list the commands you can make."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:32, 10 February 2011 (EST)

"Synthesized commands"? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 21:36, 10 February 2011 (EST)
Sure."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:38, 10 February 2011 (EST)

Obtained

These are the ways to obtain commands that I know of."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:58, 27 February 2011 (EST)

Pea and I have got a lot of relevant information on our respective note pages, User:Pea14733/Re:coded and User:Neumannz/Notes/Re:coded, on the shops, sector systems, and converting. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 21:24, 27 February 2011 (EST)
Hmmmm based on what the page said, Pea and Neumannz notes, and in-game playing. I think I have what I need to get started on the pages. UnknownChaser 21:37, 27 February 2011 (EST)
...merg. I'd really feel more comfortable if you made sure to make notes archives for the Boss clear drops, Sector rewards, and Subquest rewards first, since everyone seems to forget those."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 02:32, 28 February 2011 (EST)
The only sector I don't have notes on is that one in the Cave / Gauntlet pit. The rest are all complete. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 03:18, 28 February 2011 (EST)
Hmmm the boss drop varies based on the Difficulty Level your playing as, but that's easy to do. The Sector rewards can be done, base on Neumannz notes. Quest rewards are easy becuase I done them all. But the only thing I see missing is the reload time and Overspec reload time for them, how much each fill the Command Gauge by, and the rare prize blox (one you have to find in story) drop and the normal prize blox (one you find in revist to world and Sector prize blox) drop. UnknownChaser 11:14, 28 February 2011 (EST)
Subquest rewards, not Quest rewards."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:17, 28 February 2011 (EST)
Oh Subquest rewards, those might be harder to do, due to finding them and figuring them out for witch characters they apply to. UnknownChaser 22:11, 28 February 2011 (EST)

Drops

Drops from enemies - these can be listed normally.

Boss clear drops

Each boss, on each difficulty, can drop up to three prizes, which can be won each time they are challenged; Sora's Heartless and Data-Roxas also drop special one-time only prizes that are not quite based on the score achieved (Debug Device Y and Oathkeeper).

Quest rewards

Rewards from quests - these can be listed normally.

Subquest rewards

Rewards from subquests, like breaking blox for Selphie, restoring Alice's memories, or choosing a Dream weapon - these can be listed normally.

Of note, most subquests have an initial reward and an etc. reward - Selphie gives a unique prize the first time, and then Potions thereafter. Some, like rescuing the triplets, always give the same reward.

Moogle Shop

Can be bought from Moogle Shop - these can be listed normally, but need to list when the command becomes available, and whether it is limited.

Sector Rewards

Rewards from System Sectors. These can be both Sector prizes (1 time only) or general rewards (which increase in price each time). These should be listed (remember the Avatar Sector has them too!), but should list whether they are 1-time or repeatable, and what the initial price is.

Rare Prize Blox

Have set prizes, only appear once; basically treasure chests.

Prize Blox

Every single command can randomly drop from a Prize Blox. Not sure how to list this; in table form, it would be extremely redundant.

Scratch Cards

Most commands can be given as rewards for Character or Bonus Hunts - I have not confirmed whether the top tier commands can also be won, but I would assume so based on the Prize Blox. They frequently drop with levels or C or R addons.

Command compiling

This is the main method to gain upper-tier commands. Each command lists the recipes for it in the Debug Reports Collection page, so this should be easy enough to fill. Model it like the Command Meld sections for BbS, but most of the bits can be left out of that, as this system merely requires compiling the commands together when they are mastered - there are no probabilities or types; at best, there are ranks.

Element/Type

Gravity Drop and Quake. Should we say their types are Gravity and Earth, or Normal? Since they certainly look like using Gravity and Earth element, but whether those elements exist in the game or not is still debatable. Oh, and Judgement Triad and Eruption and Shock Fall, they might use Light element as well. The17Ultima Weapon Keychain KHBBS.pngMaster 07:22, 29 March 2011 (EDT)

We can only confirm fire (ignite), blizzard (freeze), thunder (jolt), aero (air-toss), physical, and nil so far. (Actually, not too sure about nil - are there any non-magic techs that go through a Large Body?). When someone gets a hold of the Ultimania, we can check."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 09:47, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
Ugh apparently not, I tried using all Ultimate and Advanced level attack commands and none of the got through it. I don't know if Zantetsuken with Zantetsu Prime Overclock Ability can pierce through it though. The17Ultima Weapon Keychain KHBBS.pngMaster 10:39, 29 March 2011 (EDT)