Game talk:Young Xehanort

Name?

How do we know that this is the name of this character? --BreaktheIce16 (talk) 10:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 23:44, June 22, 2010 (UTC) I don't think that we do, someone just jumped the gun and put a name that they thought was suitable there.

Oh, for God's sake. Seriously? I mean, you guys haven't heard? I remember reading in an interview that Tetsuya Nourma confirmed that this unknown is Xemnas before he became Xemnas. It's Xehanort. I do remember reading it, but I don't remember how to find it. Maybe in KHInsider or Kingdom Hearts Ultimania.

Either way, this just jumping the gun too fast.--NinjaSheik 01:29, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Uhhhh....Are you on crack or something? Normura NEVER said ANYTHING about the identity of this character in ANY sort of interview. --BreaktheIce16 (talk) 21:52, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

if you're talking about me when i had said "like xemnas" i didn't say anything about him being xemnasKhruler 20:02, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

ShadowXemnas - Nothingness...is...ETERNAL!!! TALK - Turn to Darkness! Well, whatever this new foe will be named, I'm going to call him "Xehanort's Promise". As it is not a Remnant or an Absent Silhouette, but something before the actual being, it seems fair to list it as a foreshadowing enemy (Read: Enemy that tells of the future in subtle hints), and since Xehanort's desire is to control Kingdom Hearts, and Xemnas is a part of that, this being is a "Promise" that he will do whatever it takes to do so. Thus, I shall call him Xehanort's Promise until the official name is revealed (and if it remains Unknown, I'll just stick with X.P.). What do you guys think of it?

WarMonger89 Too bright a shine shows eyes of envy. — 05:42, July 16, 2010 (UTC) i think it's a really good title. i wonder if that's what it's really called...

Naruto195 —What the hell did you do Angeal!? TALK - "Is that? Is that your idea of honor?." — Naruto195 07:35, July 16, 2010 (UTC) Xehanort's Promise? What? This isn't the page to talka bout what ever name YOU want to give him,this is the offical page. His name is Unknown until the game comes out. Not meaning to sound rude by the way.

ShadowXemnas - Nothingness...is...ETERNAL!!! TALK - Turn to Darkness! Don't worry, you're not being rude, and I understand where you're coming from. When I said I would call him Xehanort's Promise, I meant as a reference name, like I call Ansem, Seeker of Darkness "Ansem the Dark" in standard conversation. I didn't say that I would change the page name or something crazy like that, since it would be unnecessary and likely net me a warning. So any fears you may have can be assuaged. At this moment in time this character is the new Unknown, but I will refer to him as Xehanort's Promise when mentioning him. Makes it less confusing, considering that Xemnas is called Unknown in KHFM. Aside from that, what do you think of the name, unofficial it may be?

It was me! :O

I started the page because no one else had before. Pretty much everyone at the KHI community was calling him that, so I figured why not. I did it just so we actually had a page started for the character, and could edit it as the news and videos and whatnot came out.

Why not just, you know, wait until there's actual information? We have, what, three more months now?Glorious CHAOS! 06:01, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

from looking through all model files i found this:

this is one of the models where my model exporter produces only garbage uv data, but from the texture, it is xehanort:

his filename is h04di -> the 4th high poly model from Destiny Island.

here the confirmed pictures: looks like Xemnas from KH1FM, but he can't exist at that time, so Xehanort has the highest chance.

Xehanort appears in a black cloak near the beginning of the game, and the texture seems to resemble the "young master xehanort" as well. It's probably just that, not the new boss.Glorious CHAOS! 19:41, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

You can get a keyblade

it said so in the interview just look at http://www.khinsider.com/

....and this is why you shouldn't rely on incompetent translators. The interview says that you get VANITAS's Keyblade after you beat VANITAS's Sentiment.Glorious CHAOS! 09:56, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

WingBlade - Whatever it takes. Anything to save Terra and Aqua. TALK - {{{time}}} Actually, it's Vanitas's Sentiment's Keyblade not Vanitas's Keyblade. Not really sure but, Nomura said "In addition, there were complaints about the reward for defeating Vanitas' Sentiment, so you will now receive his Keyblade as a prize." "His Keyblade" may mean either one!

Again, don't rely on machine translators. The interview point-blank says "Vanitas's Keyblade".Glorious CHAOS! 10:21, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

This should be moved to Vantias Sentiment's page.--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 19:19, July 8, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman

His Weapons

hey everyone, Ixbran here

after they released the new trailer for the english version of BbS, i took some screen shots and from them was able to make a picture of the bosses weapons using photoshop.

Uknowns Weapons

i am willing to donate it to Kingdom Hearts wiki, till we can get ahold of offical art of them.

i hope this helps Ixbran 22:22, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Our policy is to not use fanart, but the effort is much appreciated.LapisLazuliScarab22:24, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, i understand. just trying to help since the page feels very empty with no pictures there. Ixbran 00:38, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Heh, blue lightsabers. What is this, the 'good' Xehanort? Is the reason his lightsabers are blue instead of red because he's the good guy at that moment? Makes you wonder...--Pkthis 04:38, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rough translation (because the khinsider post was riddled with error)

KHBbS: Blitz PS, Mr. Nomura interview, and North America version radio actor and additional element, etc.

- Blitz PS Vol.474 (It is an article on 6/25 sales).

― The sale of North America version "KHBbS" seems to be near.

Mr. Nomura: It is September 7. There is variously additional element, too and it was restlessly changeable. The voice of [erakuu;su] is competing of the dream of "Star Wars" and "Star Trek" because Leonard Nimoy (Leonard Nimoy) took charge of the voice of mark Hamill (Mark Hamill) and [zeano-to]. The enemy character of the mystery is added. It is not possible to win easily probably because it frightens and it is strong. Opinions such as "I did not want to meet twice" and "It was possible to win 20 times at last once" had come out from [debakka-].

― Is it stronger than the thought of [vanitasu]?

Mr. Nomura: There are some people who felt that the thought of [vanitasu] is stronger, and is a person who feels that a new character doesn't fight overwhelmingly easily though the questionnaire was taken. However, a new character is obviously stronger for the performance etc. of the technique. Bang Bang ..already enormous technique.. is used. It is up to a type like the stay thought of "KH2FM+" as for either of this new characters while the following movement etc. were a legible comparatively other parties in the thought of [vanitasu]. Next, what attack you do is not understood, and there is disagreeable.

― Will the new character be still a person in close relation to the story?

Mr. Nomura: I do not think that the true colors is understood at all at "KHBbS" though it becomes so. The existence is made character covered with the mysteries like being so the stay thought now.

― Other main change points?

Mr. Nomura: Because the Mega flare was too brutal oppositely though there was an addition in all places really in detail, the weakening does. The key braid of [vanitasu] can be obtained because there were a lot of voices of dissatisfaction ..[gohoubi] when the thought of [vanitasu] is knocked down... ..novel one.. some as the play element. add such a correctionProbably the tradition of the "KH" series around here.

― Is there a new secret movie?

Mr. Nomura: To our regret, it is not. There was no added time there. The secret movie is preparatory in "KH Re:Coded" though it is what when saying the taking the place. Please look forward because it is a content that not is mobile. The respect was considered this time because there was a lot of hows for being to see the secret movie at "KH 358/2 Days".

Twice!?

in the article, it says that the unknown is fought twice. Is there any proof that it is fought twice?Keyblade0 01:13, July 20, 2010 (UTC)Keyblade0

Yes: Nomura said so.Glorious CHAOS! 03:05, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Link

So was there a reason why the link to this page was removed from the kh bbs section thing that expands at the bottom???--Chaosxterra09 23:35, September 1, 2010 (UTC)Chaosxterra09

Mysterious Figure

The official name given to the character is the Mysterious Figure. He drops a keyblade after his defeat named "No Name."

http://forums.khinsider.com/spoilers/153866-strategy-guide-info-spoilers-update-2-a.html

There are scans now to back up what I posted on KHInsider's forums. This article requires a name change. --BreaktheIce16 (talk) 20:24, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Can anybody verify what guidebook these scans are from? They're not worth crap as sources otherwise.LapisLazuliScarab03:27, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

So apparently the scans are from the BradyGames guide - the IMDB of guidebooks. Why is it so hard for people to wait for credible sources? It's less than a week to the release of the game.LapisLazuliScarab03:33, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Like I've said before, I'd be willing to go through the game once I have it to verify all of this. maggosh 03:34, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Again bringing up the IMDB analogy; by the same token I could have put James Earl Jones as the VA for Aqua and just said "I'll check it when the game comes out anyway".LapisLazuliScarab03:37, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

so all edits made in light of this information will have to be reverted?--ShadowsTwilight 03:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

That's my opinion, but so far I seem to be alone on this.LapisLazuliScarab03:47, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

WheelyRampage - Replay. TALK - Tournament decides. Well, I guess if the title gets changed, could someone maybe change all other instances of the Unknown to Mysterious Figure? And someone please change you fight him twice, that was a mistranslation. You can find a better one here: http://heartstation.org/?p=2295 Sorry, those things are just bugging me.

Land of Departure? (Warning: Spoilers)

So, do we have to keep a save file for each character BEFORE the Land of Departure gets destroyed? I mean, how else do we get there? 66.215.20.249 22:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

maggosh The steel is forged... — "Souls as far as the eye can see..." "If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else." Through a mix of game save files.

Excuse me? Not sure I really understand, so you just make sure to save right before the world gets destroyed? 66.215.20.249 04:09, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Like in ReCoM, beating the Vanitas's Lingering Spirit unlocks the Mysterious Figure for all save files, even ones you haven't beaten the Spirit on. However, since you can't visit Land of Departure after beating the Lingering Spirit, you have to go back to an earlier save file, or start a new game. There has been some rumor, though, that you can take your stats and inventory from the completed game with you, though I haven't seen any evidence on that yet.Glorious CHAOS! 15:54, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Somebody?

How do we know that the Mysterious Figure is a somebody? For all we know, it could be a nobody, heartless, unversed, or the smoke monster from lost. KKD

That's the thing; we don't know. Until we do, let's just keep it this way. --LegoAlchemist 00:30, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA So Somebody has officially become the Misc. category

Kana + Romaji?

This boss is an English exclusive. So why would it have a Japanese name? I think that should be removed from the Lacking Template at the top. 66.215.20.249 01:32, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

There are no English exlusives for Kingdom Hearts, at least not for long. Just wait and see;-) ShardofTruth 08:03, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yeaah, you're right. 66.215.20.249 17:23, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

ZexionFan321 - So it's the strength of his Heart that intrigues you...The heart chosen by the Keyblade. TALK - More pain for you means more fun for me! - 17:36, September 4, 2010 (UTC) He is an English exclusive just like Sephiroth, Kurt Zisa, and the Ice Titan in KH.

maggosh The steel is forged... — "Souls as far as the eye can see..." "If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else." You forget; those bosses became available in Final Mix, no longer making them English exclusive.

ZexionFan321 - So it's the strength of his Heart that intrigues you...The heart chosen by the Keyblade. TALK - More pain for you means more fun for me! - 17:41, September 4, 2010 (UTC) But I think Nomura said that their were no plans for a Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep Final Mix.

Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 17:42, September 4, 2010 (UTC) That's what he said about KHII, and look what happened.

maggosh The steel is forged... — "Souls as far as the eye can see..." "If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else." That's what he said about Kingdom Hearts II, and we all know what happened after that. EDIT CONFLICT: Dammit Chitalian! D:

Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 17:46, September 4, 2010 (UTC) My bad, sorry XD

ZexionFan321 - So it's the strength of his Heart that intrigues you...The heart chosen by the Keyblade. TALK - More pain for you means more fun for me! - 17:47, September 4, 2010 (UTC) Plus there have been remakes or Final Mixes of every KH game except for Days and BBS...for now.

But for now, there are no plans for a Final Mix, and therefore a Kana + Romaji is not needed. But like you said, there's always that possibility...

My opinion is that we wait until a Final Mix/International Edition is announced/released in Japan, and then add something about needing a Japanese name. But for now, it's unneeded. Tamroc7 18:10, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Lightning XIII - "We live to make the impossible possible!" TALK - "Worst Birthday ever..." Yeah, but then again a Final Mix appearing in America and PAL regions is unlikely because, since Nomura said that he'll only make Final Mixes outside of Japan as a trump card. Bascially the English releases of BBS is the closest thing to a Final Mix. :D Its about time we get something that the Japanese don't! XD

Amen to that! --66.215.20.249 01:18, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Abilities

Chaosxterra09 - Good, let's see what your made of TALK - 02:42, September 5, 2010 (UTC) So I'm watchin tha battle between the Mysterious Figure and Aqua on youtube and apparently he can knock off ur deck commands, as well as make clones of himself, and some other crazy stuff; it's got me wonderin why Nomura would put this guy in tha game and expect us to be able to beat him and where has this dude been throughout KH series? Takin a nap!?!

maggosh The steel is forged... — "Souls as far as the eye can see..." "If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else." Friend, it's called challenge.

It's a challenge, of course! Nomura wouldn't want the new boss to be a pushover, so he made it tough. Besides, getting that fancy new Keyblade will take some work.

As for where he's been, I think he's been watching, and waiting, for the right opportunity to strike at our heroes. Some of the best villains prefer to wait in the shadows and strike when the heroes are of guard. I suspect this fellow is doing the same. Tamroc7 02:47, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Chaosxterra09 - Good, let's see what your made of TALK - 02:54, September 5, 2010 (UTC) Challenge??? Ha! From what I see it's a one man massacre. I mean not that i wont try to fight him but uh....yeah...

Well he makes VLS looks easy, and he is NOT easy! i will fight him, and unlike the guy on Gamefaqs, i will beat him, fairly, and you shal get screen shots that i WILL take with my DSi! but he still lokks tough as hell, in summer, on the hottest ******* day of the year!(yes i censored myself.)--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 13:45, September 5, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman

The REAL trick is beating him when you're only halfway through the game. I wonder how long it'll take to level up WITHOUT advancing the story... --66.215.20.249 00:40, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

This may sound ridiculous but from what I've seen and heard, although defeating the lingering sentiment of Vanitas does unlock the Mysterious Figure battle in all files, it doesn't mean you're locked out from the battle on the file where you made that defeat. Apparently you can return to the Land of Departure in the English version at all times (Though it gets dark and cloudy post-darkness). Mind you I heard/saw this from someone who, well, pirated a copy early, but that's not important. - Flintlock Vitor 06:05, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

The guide explicitly says you have to reload an earlier save file, so...yeah.Glorious CHAOS! 12:31, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Video

Chaosxterra09 - Good, let's see what your made of TALK - 02:54, September 5, 2010 (UTC) I found tha vid for him vs Aqua but i dont know how to incorporate it to tha article so here's tha link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miz47nwLTKg

A couple questions

What is the latest save point where the Land of Departure is still available? And if I beat him with say Terra, does No Name carry over to my other Terra file?--66.215.20.249 22:26, September 7, 2010 (UTC)