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{{RikutheBloody|time=16:26, 9 February 2015 (UTC)|angry=Say, if you do get these powers, what would you use them for?}}
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{{ENX|time=19:11, 9 February 2015 (UTC)|hooded=All this fluff aside, I quote ShardofTruth: "...why [is] this [being] made so complicated for ENX[?] We have a policy, he acted accordingly, so a bureaucrat should restore his rights, end of story.
I honestly think, based on how everyone in this community treats me (people often seem to fail to see their own faults against me, it seems, hence our conflicts; everyone here is so self-righteous in one way or another), if I were anyone other than myself, then I would have had my rights back, having met the policy's requirements, by the time the roundtable ended, instead of having to go through this forum nonsense. I fail to see how this is anything other than singling out a person, targeting said individual, and going out of one's way to unnecessarily make his life more difficult. It is this kind of hostility (how I see it, anyways) that actually ''encourages'' my inactivity. In fact, if I recall correctly, I was never even warned, as per the policy, when my rights were about to be taken away. I just logged in here at one point to find I was no longer an administrator...
I do not think it is fair of you to judge a "change in attitude" when you have barely even looked for one. Rome wasn't built in a day, nor can a person completely change to please a community that is generally against him for whatever reason in one. That being said, I do not have animosity towards ANYONE on this Wiki. Sure, there are people I may not enjoy talking to simply because of how our conversations have faired in the past, but I have made every effort (personal messages, et cetera) to try to amend things with these people one-on-one, and all I get is the cold shoulder. I cannot show any change when people refuse to give me the chance, let alone actually look for said change.
To understand my "problem," Neumannz, I encourage you to do some research on OCD. I do not expect you to care about me, my life, or anything of that nature. But understand that because of STUPID GENETICS, something I have no control over, I have never been good in social situations. I ''do'' take things personally and ''am'' easy to anger, but that is ''not'' my fault, as much as I try to keep things under control. What this community needs to understand is I try my best every day to "keep cool," et cetera. It is HOW someone approaches me with an issue that determines my response. For instance, someone saying "I don't think the image should go there...can we compromise so we can both be happy?" is a LOT different than what everyone here keeps giving me, the typical "I'm right because I am, and you're wrong because A, B, C. Have a nice day, not that I care if you do or not." So you ask me to act in a way that I do not have the ability to based on OTHER PEOPLE's behavior, not just my own. Ask anyone on this Wiki I have ever been foolish enough to call a "friend" in the past: Xion4ever, Troisnyxetienne, NinjaSheik...these three in particular are the Wikians I find myself closest to, the ones who see the "real me" people like you and Kryten do not often get to witness simply by your own choosing. They know how to interact with me. They know how to have a civil conversation with me, even if it concerns a Wiki issue. My "lip service" (which was not, I assure you) was purely a request from my heart of hearts to the people here to just "grin and bear it." I cannot control my anxiety disorder, or how it makes me treat others, or how interactions with others have shaped me as an individual. To hold all that against me, all those factors I had no say in, is just not fair. It is inhumane. I am only asking that if we are to put our differences aside, that this Wiki's community take the extra effort to understand what I am going through, to see a side they did not know of before, and perhaps have some questions as to why I have behaved the way I have in the past answered.
Of course I would not abuse my "powers." I never did before, so why would I now? To answer RTB's question, I would "use these powers" the way any admin should: to delete what needs to be deleted, move what needs to be moved, and protect the Wiki when it needs protecting. I can't tell you how many times I've been the only one online, been going through the recent changes, and seen a ton of poorly-made edits in need of rollback, thus I've been unable to do it. Or how many images that have been in need of deletion, but I have been unable to assist in any way. This Wiki did an excellent job of making me feel like I wasn't wanted, respected, et cetera. I constantly felt antagonized, like I was an administrator upon the formation of SEIWA simply to fill a slot. My opinions had no more merit, nor should they, but it was obvious who wanted to side with who, and for the most crazy reasons.
That rant aside, I ''do'' want to put the past behind us and move forward. But I should not have to be on my knees begging for something that was stripped from me when I clearly met the requirements to give it back. The Wiki's several invisible loopholes to our policies really astound me...}}

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Nobody.pngEternal Nothingness XIIINobody.png True, we don't have hearts. But we remember what it was like. That's what makes us special. — 22:02, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Lunatic KHD.png So according to the staff policy, forcibly retired staff/staff who go on extended leaves of absence must be active consistently for a two-month period before their rights will be restored to them. I also recall reading at one point that a request need only be made for an administrator to be re-elected; I asked that we would discuss my return to adminship on today's Roundtable, where it was decided that it should be finalized/discussed on this forum, purely for the sake of archiving material and sourcing. I have met the requirements stated in the staff policy, and while I may not be able to edit every single day because I have returned to college, I plan to edit as often as I can, as often and as much as possible. I aim to do a better job welcoming new users and attending Roundtables when I can; these were also issues people seemed to have when I was last a part of the Wiki's staff. Before I humbly ask this Wiki to give me a second chance, I just wanted to say a few things:
  • This past May, I was diagnosed with OCD (obsessive-compulsive disorder). This is chiefly an anxiety disorder, leaving the juicy details of my symptoms out, so that is why it may seem at times like I overreact to a situation on the Wiki in conversation with another editor or when fixing up articles. When people try to correct me, I view this (I can't help it, and it's not in my control) as a personal attack against me, hence my tendency to rudely lash out at others. OCD/anxiety is why I overreact to people in general and stand so firmly by my own opinions. My brain cannot handle things that most people can and does not take stress or criticism well. I tend to jump to conclusions, and to those I have hurt over the past few years that I have spent on the Wiki for one reason or another, now that you know the root cause of the problems between us, I hope you can find it in your hearts to forgive me.
  • I have long sought to "begin again" on this Wiki and patch things up between myself and the users with whom I have had issues with. Looking back on things, I can see why some would find my behavior/reactions to things unjust and uncalled-for. I am truly sorry for any unprofessionalism, etc. that I have displayed in the past. I feel like I have created a rather negative reputation for myself amongst this site's community, and I would really like to change that. I would like to start fresh, with this hopeful re-election, and just say that I am sorry.

I'm not trying to start a sob-story or pity party. I just genuinely have wanted to share my thoughts/feelings with this Wiki's community for a long time, and I see now as a perfect opportunity. This is a second chance for me to prove myself as an editor, an administrator, and most importantly, a friend, if you will just give me the chance. Here's to a new beginning, to the new me. Thank you to everyone for considering me again for adminship, as well as for giving me a place where I can share information about one of my most beloved video game series, the Kingdom Hearts Wiki. Whether people agree to give me this second chance or not, rest assured that I will forever remain a faithful, committed editor! And with that, I enter my corridor of darkness and leave this forum to the community.


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KrytenKoro - And when you see me standing there, you'll know you've got a friend with a rock, I mean a big-ass rock.
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As I've said many times, I'm of the opinion that anyone who's not abusing mod rights should have them -- if we have somebody flouting the community by blocking editors or deleting articles, they should lose the rights. Otherwise...I really don't see the benefit in not giving mod rights to every non-probationary editor. Basically, once we've confirmed they're not a vandal, they should at least have admin rights.

EDIT: To clarify, while ENX may have had friction with other editors in the past over conduct or content concerns, I am not aware of any misuse of the administrator tools, and fervently support his re-opping.

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Nobody.pngEternal Nothingness XIIINobody.png Aren't hearts great? Steer us wrong every time. — 02:12, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Sharpshooter KHD.png Thank you, Kryten. Those issues I have had in regards to "conduct or content concerns" are exactly what I hope this community will allow me to call "water under the bridge" as I have my new beginning.
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ShardofTruth Once you believe, truth and lie are quite the same thing. — 23:11, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Game Clear Data KHRECOM.png I'm not sure why this is made so complicated for ENX. We have a policy, he acted accordingly, so a bureaucrat should restore his rights, end of story.

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Nobody.pngEternal Nothingness XIIINobody.png Soon the emptiness will shatter your heart—here in this world of nothingness! As lightless oblivion devours you, drown in the ever-blooming darkness! — 12:24, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Graceful Dahlia KHD.png My thoughts exactly, Shard. I don't mean to sound eager, but could we please settle this already?
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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 16:18, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 
I really wish you didn't sound so eager, because my first instinct tends to be, if someone is trying really hard to get admin rights, they're probably not someone who should have them...

Look, as far as qualifications go, I don't have any problems. You've been a good editor here for easily as long as I have, periods of inactivity aside, and you know the ins and outs of this place.

I don't even really have a problem with the fact that you argue with other editors and staff. God knows we need healthy debate and all that.

If I have a problem, it's that you are incredibly rigid and seem to take things really personally. I suspect that that's a big factor behind the attitude you've had towards certain staff members in the past. (I have the impression I very likely exacerbated things at some point due to general frustration, so, sorry for that.) I'm glad you say you want to put all this behind you—and I sincerely hope that you will—but as of right now I don't know if that's not just lip service. I don't think we've seen any change in attitude yet. You seemed to have seriously strong feelings against said staff, and I don't think that kind of thing goes away so easily.

On the other hand, I don't think I can really give a good argument not to give you admin rights again. I can't imagine you abusing them to any degree, and if there isn't some degree of trust, there won't be much chance of moving forward. And it's not like having admin rights or not really changes how one approaches an argument, either.

So, yeah, if the general consensus is that you should have admin rights again, I'm alright with it. I just ask that you try to be a bit more open-minded on issues—the rest of us should, too—and that you talk out your problems with any given editor or staff with them, instead of going to the IRC to sling mud, which is really not cool.


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Say, if you do get these powers, what would you use them for? — 16:26, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
RikutheBloody

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Nobody.pngEternal Nothingness XIIINobody.png You really don't remember? It's me. You know, Axel. — 19:11, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Eternal Flames KHD.png All this fluff aside, I quote ShardofTruth: "...why [is] this [being] made so complicated for ENX[?] We have a policy, he acted accordingly, so a bureaucrat should restore his rights, end of story.

I honestly think, based on how everyone in this community treats me (people often seem to fail to see their own faults against me, it seems, hence our conflicts; everyone here is so self-righteous in one way or another), if I were anyone other than myself, then I would have had my rights back, having met the policy's requirements, by the time the roundtable ended, instead of having to go through this forum nonsense. I fail to see how this is anything other than singling out a person, targeting said individual, and going out of one's way to unnecessarily make his life more difficult. It is this kind of hostility (how I see it, anyways) that actually encourages my inactivity. In fact, if I recall correctly, I was never even warned, as per the policy, when my rights were about to be taken away. I just logged in here at one point to find I was no longer an administrator...

I do not think it is fair of you to judge a "change in attitude" when you have barely even looked for one. Rome wasn't built in a day, nor can a person completely change to please a community that is generally against him for whatever reason in one. That being said, I do not have animosity towards ANYONE on this Wiki. Sure, there are people I may not enjoy talking to simply because of how our conversations have faired in the past, but I have made every effort (personal messages, et cetera) to try to amend things with these people one-on-one, and all I get is the cold shoulder. I cannot show any change when people refuse to give me the chance, let alone actually look for said change.

To understand my "problem," Neumannz, I encourage you to do some research on OCD. I do not expect you to care about me, my life, or anything of that nature. But understand that because of STUPID GENETICS, something I have no control over, I have never been good in social situations. I do take things personally and am easy to anger, but that is not my fault, as much as I try to keep things under control. What this community needs to understand is I try my best every day to "keep cool," et cetera. It is HOW someone approaches me with an issue that determines my response. For instance, someone saying "I don't think the image should go there...can we compromise so we can both be happy?" is a LOT different than what everyone here keeps giving me, the typical "I'm right because I am, and you're wrong because A, B, C. Have a nice day, not that I care if you do or not." So you ask me to act in a way that I do not have the ability to based on OTHER PEOPLE's behavior, not just my own. Ask anyone on this Wiki I have ever been foolish enough to call a "friend" in the past: Xion4ever, Troisnyxetienne, NinjaSheik...these three in particular are the Wikians I find myself closest to, the ones who see the "real me" people like you and Kryten do not often get to witness simply by your own choosing. They know how to interact with me. They know how to have a civil conversation with me, even if it concerns a Wiki issue. My "lip service" (which was not, I assure you) was purely a request from my heart of hearts to the people here to just "grin and bear it." I cannot control my anxiety disorder, or how it makes me treat others, or how interactions with others have shaped me as an individual. To hold all that against me, all those factors I had no say in, is just not fair. It is inhumane. I am only asking that if we are to put our differences aside, that this Wiki's community take the extra effort to understand what I am going through, to see a side they did not know of before, and perhaps have some questions as to why I have behaved the way I have in the past answered.

Of course I would not abuse my "powers." I never did before, so why would I now? To answer RTB's question, I would "use these powers" the way any admin should: to delete what needs to be deleted, move what needs to be moved, and protect the Wiki when it needs protecting. I can't tell you how many times I've been the only one online, been going through the recent changes, and seen a ton of poorly-made edits in need of rollback, thus I've been unable to do it. Or how many images that have been in need of deletion, but I have been unable to assist in any way. This Wiki did an excellent job of making me feel like I wasn't wanted, respected, et cetera. I constantly felt antagonized, like I was an administrator upon the formation of SEIWA simply to fill a slot. My opinions had no more merit, nor should they, but it was obvious who wanted to side with who, and for the most crazy reasons.

That rant aside, I do want to put the past behind us and move forward. But I should not have to be on my knees begging for something that was stripped from me when I clearly met the requirements to give it back. The Wiki's several invisible loopholes to our policies really astound me...