Forum:13 Darkness Discussion

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Hi! I'm just a regular kid, but I'm extremily clever, and ready to solve any problem the worlds throw at me! But, my mom wants to know more about Kingdom hearts, and there's one thing I don't know. Who everyone in the new organization is.

Here's who I have so far:

1. Master Xehanort

2. Ansem, Seeker of Darkness

3. Xemnas

4. Young Xehanort

5. Braig

6. Isa

That's all I've got so far, in no particular order. Anyone else got people they know are in the new organization?

Pea14733 Hey, it's their world. They get to decide what to do with it. — 15:40, 29 January 2013 (UTC) If we know more, confirmed infos, it'd be in the True Organization XIII by now. My guess? Maybe MX's replicas? MXs from multiple other timelines? PS. Sign your message, kid, if you're really that clever.

maggosh The steel is forged... — "Souls as far as the eye can see..." "If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else." That would be Xigbar and Saïx, not Braig and Isa.

TheFifteenthMember I like white. I find it goes well with yellow, but only if you want it to. — TheFifteenthMember 19:04, 29 January 2013 (UTC) This is a good chance for me to ask about something that's been confusing me for a while. How do we know that the members of the other Organization are Saix and Xigbar and not Braig and Isa? If my memory is correct, Braig and Saix were the only people not with Lea, Dilan and the rest when they woke up. However I think we know its Saix and Xigbar because they vanished with the others when their time ran out which means they were from the past. The only thing is, how do we not know that Isa and Braig went into the future before they be and nobodies? Can someone tell me how we know its Isa and Braig?

One, that it's how they're credited, and two, it's what the official ultimania says. Besides, they are described as being mechanically what they were in khii (braig/isa body with xehanort heart), so what would be the point of calling them something that had a different composition?

KeybladeSpyMaster - I do it for my family, my home, my friends! I do it for her! TALK - Welcome to Spy Force One. - MDT I'm pretty sure it is Xigbar and Saïx. However, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Isa and Braig are also part of it as separate beings. That being said, as of right now, you're list has all the known members of the True Organization XIII.

Isa and braig as members is mechanically equivalent to xigbar and saix. Remember, each of the members has had their heart replaced by xehanort's, just like in the first org.

=-LightningPrincess12 (talk) 14:09, 2 October 2014 (UTC) |text=I've got some suggestions for possible members here, Master Xehanort's nobody for one. No I don't mean Xemnas, I mean Master Xehanort's actual nobody created from his body and soul. Evidence for this is that when MX extracts his heart and transfers it into Terra's body his original body keeps talking, and he disapears into light the same way Sora does in the first game when he uses the dark keyblade on himself. Master Xehanort's true nobody was either created when he took over Terra, or his original body and soul ended up dormant somewhere and resurfaced as a nobody when his heart became Ansem. Since Xemnas was made from Terra's body and soul it doesn't really make sense that his death would restore Master Xehanort, so it's likely that MX's nobody was destroyed at some point between Ansem's destruction and Dream Drop Distance, he might have delibrately let Aqua or King Mickey kill him so he could become his complete self again and then his younger self used time travel to recruit him for the True Organization. It seems strange that he would be lower ranked than Xemnas since he's a more direct incarnation of Xehanort, but rank has nothing to do with authority in the first Organization so there's no reason the new one couldn't be the same way. Going with the idea that he fought Aqua or Mickey before, he'd probably have worn a black coat with his hood up when he fought them, in which case Mickey might have thought he was a member of the first Organization and Aqua wouldn't have known who he was, but whichever one of them fought him before will probably meet him again in KH3 and recognise him by his Keyblade.

Braig's heartless is another possiblity, Nomura said in an interview that Xehanort and Scar are the only people that kept their original forms as heartless, but there's no reason the former couldn't extend to Xehanort's vessels. Bonus points if he's planning to troll Xehanort, Apparently Xigbar will be able to use a Keyblade once he's been completely taken over by Xehanort, his plan could be to wait until either his heartless or nobody becomes a complete Xehanort clone and gets a Keyblade, and the other one will kill both of them, restoring Braig and allowing him to use a Keyblade without being controlled By Xehanort.

At least one Disney Villain, Scar and Frollo would be good candidates, as well as Turbo/King Candy if Wreck-It Ralph gets made into a world in KH3. Xehanort's looking for vessels to fill with pure darkness and someone like Frollo that's already pure evil would work perfectly, plus there's a good chance that we'll finally get to fight him! Additionally as I said above, Scar didn't need to possess anyone to keep his physical form as a Heartless and Turbo would be able to hide the fact that he's half Xehanort already by his King Candy disguise. Yes, they're too arrogant to really submit to anyone, let alone let someone else be the leader. But Isa was implied to have been brainwashed, proving that Xehanort is perfectly willing to force people into his Thirteen Darknesses if he thinks they're worthy. Scar could be mutated into a bipedal lion of sorts, like a Nortified lion as fan-art has often done and Turbo would probably be made taller.