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Because these two groups are Organization XIII, I think there should be only one page about it, and create it in a way that it covers both incarnations of the Organization. [[User:EnglishJoker|EnglishJoker]] 21:23, 5 May 2012 (UTC) | Because these two groups are Organization XIII, I think there should be only one page about it, and create it in a way that it covers both incarnations of the Organization. [[User:EnglishJoker|EnglishJoker]] 21:23, 5 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
There was actually a discussion about it [http://www.khwiki.net/Talk:Organization_XIII#Separate_Page here]. -- | There was actually a discussion about it [http://www.khwiki.net/Talk:Organization_XIII#Separate_Page here]. --'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 21:36, 5 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
::If you can set up a draft that isn't a total mindjunk, go for it and we can have another discussion.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 05:19, 6 May 2012 (UTC) | ::If you can set up a draft that isn't a total mindjunk, go for it and we can have another discussion.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 05:19, 6 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
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We should rename them the Thirteen Darkness, since that is what they are referred to, and we also need to make a page for the Seven Lights.--124.168.242.102 | We should rename them the Thirteen Darkness, since that is what they are referred to, and we also need to make a page for the Seven Lights.--124.168.242.102 | ||
The article already mentions them being refer to the "thirteen seekers of darkness". And the seven lights refers to the seven Princesses of Heart-- | The article already mentions them being refer to the "thirteen seekers of darkness". And the seven lights refers to the seven Princesses of Heart--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 02:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
Actually the 7 lights refer to the protectors of the 7 princess. --[[Special:Contributions/124.168.242.102|124.168.242.102]] 11:41, 26 May 2012 (UTC) | Actually the 7 lights refer to the protectors of the 7 princess. --[[Special:Contributions/124.168.242.102|124.168.242.102]] 11:41, 26 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
Oh, right. I forgot about that, but because we don't know who the protectors are, besides Riku and soon-to-be Kairi, we can't really create a page with such small information.-- | Oh, right. I forgot about that, but because we don't know who the protectors are, besides Riku and soon-to-be Kairi, we can't really create a page with such small information.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 15:58, 26 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
:Actually Mickey and Xehanort mention who the lights are, Mickey says that he, Sora, Riku, The Lost Three (probably Terra, Aqua and Ventus) and the Last One, but the Xehanort says that the Last One is on his side, the Last One is not Terra as Terra is mentioned as one of the Lost Three.--[[Special:Contributions/124.168.242.102|124.168.242.102]] 01:15, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | :Actually Mickey and Xehanort mention who the lights are, Mickey says that he, Sora, Riku, The Lost Three (probably Terra, Aqua and Ventus) and the Last One, but the Xehanort says that the Last One is on his side, the Last One is not Terra as Terra is mentioned as one of the Lost Three.--[[Special:Contributions/124.168.242.102|124.168.242.102]] 01:15, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
::Translations of that line seem to say different things. While some translations say that the last of the Seven Lights is on Xehanort's side, others say that the last of the Missing Three (Terra) is on his side. I think the latter translation makes more sense, because a) Terra is still possessed by Xehanort and is therefore still on his side; and b) the first translation implies that the last light, which Yen Sid says is Kairi, is on Xehanort's side- which she most certainly is not. Hopefully this will be cleared up in the English release. --{{User:As if!/Autosig}} 01:34, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | ::Translations of that line seem to say different things. While some translations say that the last of the Seven Lights is on Xehanort's side, others say that the last of the Missing Three (Terra) is on his side. I think the latter translation makes more sense, because a) Terra is still possessed by Xehanort and is therefore still on his side; and b) the first translation implies that the last light, which Yen Sid says is Kairi, is on Xehanort's side- which she most certainly is not. Hopefully this will be cleared up in the English release. --{{User:As if!/Autosig}} 01:34, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::The last light cannot be Kairi as she is a princess and the lights are the protectors of the princesses, also by on his side, he meant that they were willingly on his side, Terra wasnt because Terra had his body but both Xehanort's heart and soul. Sora was because he still had his Body, Heart and Soul but Xehanort was infusining them with darkness.--[[Special:Contributions/124.168.242.102|124.168.242.102]] 01:46, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | :::The last light cannot be Kairi as she is a princess and the lights are the protectors of the princesses, also by on his side, he meant that they were willingly on his side, Terra wasnt because Terra had his body but both Xehanort's heart and soul. Sora was because he still had his Body, Heart and Soul but Xehanort was infusining them with darkness.--[[Special:Contributions/124.168.242.102|124.168.242.102]] 01:46, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
::::Okay, now you're just tripping, anon. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 01:48, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | ::::Okay, now you're just tripping, anon. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 01:48, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
::What As if and Maggosh-kun are trying to say in this: It'd be better if we wait until the English it out so we avoid confusions and all the such. There's no rush, the game is coming real soon, but there can be lot of mistakes when translating, so to avoid such things, it's better if we wait, like As if said.-- | ::What As if and Maggosh-kun are trying to say in this: It'd be better if we wait until the English it out so we avoid confusions and all the such. There's no rush, the game is coming real soon, but there can be lot of mistakes when translating, so to avoid such things, it's better if we wait, like As if said.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 01:58, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
On Master Xehanort's profile, you can read ''Now, he has revealed his ultimate goal: to create the '''real Organization XIII'''''. Should that be considered the official English name for this article? --[[User:Wind Prism|Wind Prism]] ([[User talk:Wind Prism|talk]]) 16:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC) | On Master Xehanort's profile, you can read ''Now, he has revealed his ultimate goal: to create the '''real Organization XIII'''''. Should that be considered the official English name for this article? --[[User:Wind Prism|Wind Prism]] ([[User talk:Wind Prism|talk]]) 16:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC) | ||
:What was our source for "True XIII Order" in Japanese, again?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:53, 21 July 2012 (UTC) | :What was our source for "True XIII Order" in Japanese, again?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:53, 21 July 2012 (UTC) | ||
::Maggosh-kun posted a topic above that above. He said, "Young Xehanort refers to the reformed Organization as the true Organization XIII (真のXIII機関 Shin no Jūsan Kikan?), as the other members assemble in the thrones."-- | ::Maggosh-kun posted a topic above that above. He said, "Young Xehanort refers to the reformed Organization as the true Organization XIII (真のXIII機関 Shin no Jūsan Kikan?), as the other members assemble in the thrones."--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 18:10, 21 July 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::In the English version of the game, the group is actually never referred to as the "True Organization XIII". It is, however, referred to several times as the "real Organization XIII". Notice how "real" is in lower case and is clearly not a proper adjective, leading me to believe that it's not its own entity and it's just a true reformation of the original Organization XIII to match its original purpose. Thus it should probably be merged with the Organization XIII article, or renamed to "Real Organization XIII". --[[User:Key|Key]] | :::In the English version of the game, the group is actually never referred to as the "True Organization XIII". It is, however, referred to several times as the "real Organization XIII". Notice how "real" is in lower case and is clearly not a proper adjective, leading me to believe that it's not its own entity and it's just a true reformation of the original Organization XIII to match its original purpose. Thus it should probably be merged with the Organization XIII article, or renamed to "Real Organization XIII". --[[User:Key|Key]] | ||
::::Note that a) this was translated from the Japanese version of the game, and b) an article cannot start with a lower case character. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:00, 5 August 2012 (UTC) | ::::Note that a) this was translated from the Japanese version of the game, and b) an article cannot start with a lower case character. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:00, 5 August 2012 (UTC) | ||
