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:::The KHdecoded article appears to be a reader-submitted article, without factchecking oversight, and even the title casts doubt on the claims -- also, the art is pretty simple, and nothing about it sounds official. If there's no statement from a reliable source, someone not doing laughable "internet sleuthing", then this is an absolute no -- even the IGN article seems to be operating on hearsay. As a basic requirement, any ''reputable'' news source would be able to easily get an answer from Disney, GFL, or Square Enix instead of relying on a bullshit reddit post.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 19:57, 17 May 2015 (UTC) | :::The KHdecoded article appears to be a reader-submitted article, without factchecking oversight, and even the title casts doubt on the claims -- also, the art is pretty simple, and nothing about it sounds official. If there's no statement from a reliable source, someone not doing laughable "internet sleuthing", then this is an absolute no -- even the IGN article seems to be operating on hearsay. As a basic requirement, any ''reputable'' news source would be able to easily get an answer from Disney, GFL, or Square Enix instead of relying on a bullshit reddit post.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 19:57, 17 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::Hell, have any of the Kingdom Hearts fansites throwing away their reputation on this done a basic trademark patent search? Producers register tons of optional names before they put this much work into a thing, it is ludicrous to believe that they got to the concept art and story planning stage without staking claims on possible names.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:04, 17 May 2015 (UTC) | :::Hell, have any of the Kingdom Hearts fansites throwing away their reputation on this done a basic trademark patent search? Producers register tons of optional names before they put this much work into a thing, it is ludicrous to believe that they got to the concept art and story planning stage without staking claims on possible names.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:04, 17 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::Interesting, today's the first time I see this has actually gotten any attention. My understanding is different to the one expressed in KHInsider, though I remain equally skeptical. Based solely on what is expressed/written in the KH13 articles, from what I know, the entire concept of the game is based on the leaking of information by a "former developer" of the game, who posted this information on his personal LinkedIn profile. Then come all the blog links that supposedly were linked on his profile that housed the concept art. I became skeptical when I saw the concept art. Then there's the issue of ''Frozen'' being involved in the game, a game in planning nine months before ''Frozen'' had actually premiered. Not to mention, as KHInsider has noted, the concept art is really badly made. My explanation can be found on the KH13 article comments, to which [http://kh13.com/forum/topic/85201-concept-art-for-disneys-cancelled-iosandroid-kingdom-hearts-game-revealed-including-wreck-it-ralph-frozen-tangled-star-wars-worlds/?p=1621313 DChiuch strongly believed he there was a perfect explanation for it]. There does appear that a game (different from this one) was in development at about the same time, but I think that while that one is more probable to have existed, this one...not so much. It is my belief that the game never existed, and KH13 is the sad victim of a scam levied against the ''Kingdom Hearts'' community, probably for the purpose of upping up the scammers own resumes (Kinda wish that the this kinda publication had been given to [[ | ::::Interesting, today's the first time I see this has actually gotten any attention. My understanding is different to the one expressed in KHInsider, though I remain equally skeptical. Based solely on what is expressed/written in the KH13 articles, from what I know, the entire concept of the game is based on the leaking of information by a "former developer" of the game, who posted this information on his personal LinkedIn profile. Then come all the blog links that supposedly were linked on his profile that housed the concept art. I became skeptical when I saw the concept art. Then there's the issue of ''Frozen'' being involved in the game, a game in planning nine months before ''Frozen'' had actually premiered. Not to mention, as KHInsider has noted, the concept art is really badly made. My explanation can be found on the KH13 article comments, to which [http://kh13.com/forum/topic/85201-concept-art-for-disneys-cancelled-iosandroid-kingdom-hearts-game-revealed-including-wreck-it-ralph-frozen-tangled-star-wars-worlds/?p=1621313 DChiuch strongly believed he there was a perfect explanation for it]. There does appear that a game (different from this one) was in development at about the same time, but I think that while that one is more probable to have existed, this one...not so much. It is my belief that the game never existed, and KH13 is the sad victim of a scam levied against the ''Kingdom Hearts'' community, probably for the purpose of upping up the scammers own resumes (Kinda wish that the this kinda publication had been given to [[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Kingdom Hearts -3D HD ReMIX-|our "scam"/prank]]). {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 00:46, 18 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
{{TNE|time=10:46, 18 May 2015 (UTC)|text=What would really help, right about now, is if Disney or SE actually issued an official statement either supporting or refuting this, so we know once and for all. That might happen, I don't know, several months from now... but it would really be appreciated. Not for our sake, of course, because we're not buying it -- but for the sake of the hundreds who have gone gaga for it, not knowing if it is a scam or not.}} | {{TNE|time=10:46, 18 May 2015 (UTC)|text=What would really help, right about now, is if Disney or SE actually issued an official statement either supporting or refuting this, so we know once and for all. That might happen, I don't know, several months from now... but it would really be appreciated. Not for our sake, of course, because we're not buying it -- but for the sake of the hundreds who have gone gaga for it, not knowing if it is a scam or not.}} | ||
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I agree with Webber on this point. I don't see the value in talking about "rumours", ie. things that could be made up. I think that's too close to cataloging fan-made stuff, which is outside of the scope of this wiki. I think we should consider the evidence on each rumour individually and only write about the ones that are solid. Also on the point of "What website counts as a source? Does a KH fansite? Does IGN?", I think again we should ignore the reputation of the reporting website and instead look at the specific evidence, and just consider the legitimacy of the actual source of the evidence. --[[User:DChiuch|DChiuch]] ([[User talk:DChiuch|talk]]) 04:06, 6 May 2016 (UTC) | I agree with Webber on this point. I don't see the value in talking about "rumours", ie. things that could be made up. I think that's too close to cataloging fan-made stuff, which is outside of the scope of this wiki. I think we should consider the evidence on each rumour individually and only write about the ones that are solid. Also on the point of "What website counts as a source? Does a KH fansite? Does IGN?", I think again we should ignore the reputation of the reporting website and instead look at the specific evidence, and just consider the legitimacy of the actual source of the evidence. --[[User:DChiuch|DChiuch]] ([[User talk:DChiuch|talk]]) 04:06, 6 May 2016 (UTC) | ||
:But....the whole point - practically the ''definition'' - to rumors is that they ''aren't'' solid. The....uhm, solidity, is what separates rumors from facts. --[[User:Webber22|Webber22]] ([[User talk:Webber22|talk]]) 19:52, 6 May 2016 (UTC) | :But....the whole point - practically the ''definition'' - to rumors is that they ''aren't'' solid. The....uhm, solidity, is what separates rumors from facts. --[[User:Webber22|Webber22]] ([[User talk:Webber22|talk]]) 19:52, 6 May 2016 (UTC) | ||
